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Aug 31, 2002, 2:41am

Why would it result in a flame? I was just asking if this was possible. Why
would anyone flame me for that? If you're attepting to start something, come
on. :)

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Sep 4, 2002, 3:10am

nt

Sep 3, 2002, 4:57pm

You know, The Cy award does not have to exist. The way the Cy award is given
out doesn't have to meet everyones approval. Complaining about how the
things were done, at this point, is becoming counter productive and
repetitive. Many people did a lot of work to make the Cy's happen, and if
they are paying any attention to some of the threads here, I hope they are
not becoming frustrated by it. I'd personally like to thank them for their
hard work, and I'd hope that there will continue to be many more years to
come where AW Citizen's hard but pleasant building labor can be rewarded by
their peers.

Sep 12, 2002, 12:34pm

Why does anyone even bother to reply to this Meep person? I'll bet that if
you do some statistics on these newsgroups that you will find that Meep has
wasted more time complaining about people for no reason than he has ever
done helping people. I know that in the last 2 weeks at least he hasn't done
anything useful. The only times I've seen him try and help people is to
direct them to his website and tell them to get a clue in some caustic and
abusive fashion.

Sep 12, 2002, 8:47pm

Does anyone know the website that has AW Statistics on it? I neglected to
bookmark a website I came across about 2 weeks ago that had statistics like
Top 10 builders in AW on one of the pages. I was hoping to find it again.

Thanks

Sep 12, 2002, 9:43pm

Ah ha! Thank you :)

> I think you were looking for http://tangent.imatowns.com. Select a login
> method, and there should be an option to see the top builders and such.

This is the place I was looking for. *bookmarked*296829 479,390

Sep 13, 2002, 1:42am

> my old cit is #43 :D

Wow, why don't you still have it? Please tell the story :) I'd kill for that
UID.

Sep 15, 2002, 8:49pm

I am just a citizen who voted and happened to be at the Cy area in AW a
little early.

You don't have to read this, reply to it, or anything. Please do not flame.
This is being posted only for those interested who were not there. I
personally feel the outcome was partially correct. I think Shan deserved the
right for people to see his AV's. I know several there did not agree with
the ultimate outcome. But please if you reply, keep it low key and topical.
And whether you agree with how the Cy's are being handled or not, I sure
hope you took the time to go vote anyhow. I know next year will be better.
And of course, if you feel you can do a better job next year, volunteer!

Thank you!

Immigration Officer: Welcome to Alphaworld! :) Isn't it a beautiful day in
the neighborhood?

ShanKahtus: may I have the name of an attourney please
OneSummer: yes
ShanKahtus: that I have several weeks
ShanKahtus: and this jerk will not come over here
ShanKahtus: and put
ShanKahtus: Shanwrks
ShanKahtus: Several Avs on this sign
OneSummer: I see
Baron von Shrike: just as I won't change any of the other's signs.
OneSummer: were they nominated
ShanKahtus: I have a sign in here
OneSummer: good
Cyberwitch: hi everyone
OneSummer: your nominations were posted
OneSummer: hugssss CW
ShanKahtus: but no world or location to view them
OneSummer: where is your world at
ShanKahtus: Cyberwitch
Cyberwitch: they will be on the update page
Kerstin: hi CW
OneSummer: I am sure it will be posted
ShanKahtus: I am a good froiend of WingOnite
OneSummer: if they are nominated
ShanKahtus: She introduced us
Cyberwitch: Hi Shankahtus
Kerstin: hi shan
Cyberwitch: great
ShanKahtus: after you got out of the hospital
ShanKahtus: I made the Redwood Trees for her
Cyberwitch: ohh thansk
ShanKahtus: you are on the commitee
Cyberwitch: ok need to get some things done with Kerstim
OneSummer: ok CW
Cyberwitch: yes we are trying to do our best
ShanKahtus: Baron has a grudge against me and refuses to put my world name
on my sign in here
Cyberwitch: ok please let me explain
ShanKahtus: I was told by gram that this world not be for several weeks yet
Cyberwitch: the team before us should had made alot of corrections and
didn't
Baron von Shrike: just as I refuse to "update" any info provided after last
saturday.
ShanKahtus: I was preparing an entire world Shanwrks
Kerstin: i'm sorry CW -- one moment -- phone
ShanKahtus: to view my avs
Cyberwitch: no please listen
Guri Lady: :)
Cyberwitch: no it was correct and anything that was done and enter was fro
that time
ShanKahtus: I received notification of my nomination on Last Sunday
ShanKahtus: Telegram from HoneyB1, sent Sun Sep 8, 2002 1:16 AM:
Cyberwitch: voting later took place but not changes on waht was done before
Cyberwitch: that was to make sure things were update on like name coords etc
not to ahve anything added from before
Cyberwitch: jsut corrections not done on the page
ShanKahtus: So am i wasting my time preparing Shanwrks?
Cyberwitch: we were not going to change or add for people to do
Cyberwitch: no but at the time someone enter you
ShanKahtus: Baron is refusing to walk over here and add the name of my world
Baron von Shrike: that is correct.
Cyberwitch: was base at that time what it looked like not now
ShanKahtus: and it could cost me thousands of Dollars
Cyberwitch: u still have good chance base at that tiem
Talisan: Cyberwitch, if Shan was nominated for his AV's, I certainly feel he
should have a place for people to view them in.
Linn: agreed
Cyberwitch: thats why a person nom you in first placeif you change
Cyberwitch: yes I agree
ShanKahtus: and my sign is in this room
Cyberwitch: if don't have a world that people see at the time we can on the
update page add to it so people can see or the webpage
ShanKahtus: how could i get any coords Baron by Saturday if i wasn't
notified until Sunday?
Cyberwitch: but for here BVS worked very hard
Cyberwitch: and righ now bot set up as is
Linn: sigh
Cyberwitch: we can not chane it withourt messing everything up
Cyberwitch: no fault of anyone
ShanKahtus: his name is on this sign
Linn: bot to vote????
Linn: wot?
ShanKahtus: he could add the world to it
Cyberwitch: so the best next thing we are putting on the webpage and for
everyone to see
ShanKahtus: in 60 seconds
OneSummer: andras controlls the bot and won't be fiddling with the results
log.
ShanKahtus: and the coords are not on the web page
Cyberwitch: we well pe putting up signs and web page explaing this
ShanKahtus: I was given no deadline to have the info in
Cyberwitch: no he can't
Baron von Shrike: I "could" add and change and tweak every sign in the place
until it met with the approval of all; but I won't
Cyberwitch: than it will mess up the bot how it is set now
ShanKahtus: then
ShanKahtus: let me change this sign
Cyberwitch: it would change everything and than your votes might not than
worl
Cyberwitch: you wouldn't want that to happen do u?
ShanKahtus: and OH let me here that even one thing was changed for anyone
Baron von Shrike: the build stands as it is.
ShanKahtus: How will i get any votes?
ShanKahtus: \if no one sees my avs
Cyberwitch: weare try to do so not to mess up votes if change it is the bot
is set up
Baron von Shrike: you're certainly not alone. it was up to the original
nominators to provide valid information.
ShanKahtus: I don't care about the votes
ShanKahtus: I want the people to see my avs
Cyberwitch: that is why we are now working on before the voting start
instrutions to the people
Cyberwitch: please if you let us work on it we are trying to do our best so
eveyone will know the updates of yours
Cyberwitch: they will if you have it in a world not before or web page we
are adding to the update page and everyone will see that before

voting ok but we need to do that first
ShanKahtus: should i hurridly put together my avs in Shanwrks or is it a
waste of time
ShanKahtus: Baron von XXXXX is doing everything he can to see that my avs
will not be seen
Linn: when does voting start?
Cyberwitch: and right now not able to do it cause have to tallk time to
explain it before voting is slowing us down you undertand we are

trying best we can so they can ok?
Linn: 15 min?
Vicky Ann o: 7vrt
Baron von Shrike: I'll be adding the coords to the voting site at 7pm vrt
Vicky Ann o: yes 15 minutes
Guri Lady: Yes at 7 pm VRT :)
Linn: lol
Cyberwitch: but if we cahne at this sie anything than even if see your av it
migh mess up your votes so best thing let us do the update

page ok
ShanKahtus: it would take 60 seconds
ShanKahtus: to add this
Cyberwitch: no BVS is not
Linn: more like 3 months and 60 secs
ShanKahtus: this could of been overwith 30 minutes ago
ShanKahtus: listen
Baron von Shrike: it was over with 30 minutes ago
Cyberwitch: he made this site base on another date and after that bot set up
he can not change it thats why the update page
Kerstin: it was over because you promised me that you had not changed any
nominations baron
Cyberwitch: as soon as we get this update page going not before it
Kerstin: i am looking at the page from last saturday, and i am looking at
this sign, and they don't match
Kerstin: please explain
ShanKahtus: the Goreans Hate me becausse i am not Gorean and the non
Goreans Hate me because i have a Gor World i am used to being

shafted from both sides. I only want what is fair
ShanKahtus: just say
ShanKahtus: heck with you Shankahtus
ShanKahtus: Shaft you again
Baron von Shrike: I haven't changed a thing from the info provided on the
nominations page as it stood on Sept 7, other than to delete

a name that asked not to be included.
Cyberwitch: listen please we are not against Gro I like some of their stuff
they make awesome stuff
ShanKahtus: Telegram from HoneyB1, sent Sun Sep 8, 2002 1:16 AM:
Baron von Shrike: and that came from the cy execs.
Cyberwitch: but this si nothing to do with who
ShanKahtus: You have been nominated for Cy in the event of Creative Vision &
Application Avatar Development
ShanKahtus: As a member of the Cy Team I would like to congratulate you for
being nominated and ask that you please get back to me

a.s.a.p with some important info, voting will be reopen in the next few
weeks for community to vote.
Kerstin: the page from last week says : Baron von Shrike DMPartz
ShanKahtus: Sept 8th
Cyberwitch: it is soemthing to do with stuff not done before we start this
ShanKahtus: I was notified
Kerstin: this sign says Baron von Shrike BSLabZ
Cyberwitch: yes that was wored wrong you were on the first list
Cyberwitch: and that what that was for
Kerstin: BvSLabZ
Guri Lady: The person that nominate you, ShanKahtus, was asked for info long
before Sept 7th.
Cyberwitch: it was few day not weeks was correct in the ng
ShanKahtus: OH?
Cyberwitch: and that did not change what you ahd before
Guri Lady: Yes.
OneSummer: I believe the person that nominate you, ShanKahtus, was asked for
info long before Sept 7th.
ShanKahtus: I think I may have been nominate on the very last day
Guri Lady: Anyone I nominated..I got emails askign if info was correct or to
add any other info.
Cyberwitch: it jusst mean we ahd missing infor from that time
OneSummer: that's right Curi Lady
Guri Lady: Yep.
OneSummer: so its no one's fault here
Cyberwitch: this is all before the last voting when they cut down
ShanKahtus: the person that nominated me is here
Guri Lady: Everyone I nominated..I got an email asking me to make sure I
gave the correct information
ShanKahtus: ask her
Guri Lady: If the person that did nominate you didn't follow through..I am
sorry.
Guri Lady: The fault is on the end. :(
Cyberwitch: and we had added all from the old list we saw missing stuff we
try to correct it and update it that is all so fair to all
Kerstin: CW is what was on the web site last saturday the info that the
nominators corrected a while back?
Guri Lady: is on that end^^ sorry typos :)
Cyberwitch: MM correctsome
ShanKahtus: so I will be shafted?
ShanKahtus: it is OK
Cyberwitch: that is what trying to do et mroe of a update page but can't
till we get all info
Kerstin: this is exactly what i said would happen and the committee would
not listen
ShanKahtus: I should expect as much
OneSummer: well the person who nominated you should of took care or it for
you ShanKahtus
ShanKahtus: I work night an day
Cyberwitch: no you will not if you please let us do the update pae instead
wasting time explaing we can get it up and your infor will be

there
ShanKahtus: to make original avatars
ShanKahtus: that is OK
Cyberwitch: ok look you were voted on what you first made not now what you
made
ShanKahtus: I see what is going on here
Linn: yep
Linn: complete chaos just as before
Cyberwitch: we were jsut looking for mising infor from the old voting page
Cyberwitch: now
Cyberwitch: ok wait lets go somewhere to tlk and maybe eplain more please
Linn: let us all listen
Cyberwitch: too many people talking hard to workwith one ata time
OneSummer: yes CW
Linn: hummm
OneSummer: maybe you can go talk somewhere else
OneSummer: thanks
Cyberwitch: when we knew the last voting was not done righ casue of missing
infor
Linn: among other things
Cyberwitch: we than said we are going to use the old where everyone is back
on to make more fair
Cyberwitch: understand that so far?
Linn: tell it all Cyber
ShanKahtus: If I find out
Cyberwitch: foget I am not going to talk if everyone is to explain over
ShanKahtus: that anything has been changed
ShanKahtus: for anyone
OneSummer: Linn if it's ShanKahtus that has a problem why do you need to
listen in
ShanKahtus: and not this
ShanKahtus: sign
Kerstin: CW you can not change some nominations and not change others -- it
is wrong
Cyberwitch: listen please we are not
Linn: part of the process we all need to know
OneSummer: why is that
OneSummer: its not our bussiness
ShanKahtus: if it will be the fair thing to do for a human being
OneSummer: that is way to silly
Linn: agreed Kerstin
Cyberwitch: this information was only to corredt missing information
ShanKahtus: How can you not fix this sign?
Kerstin: i am standing here looking at a nomination that was changed. if
you change for one you must change for all who ask. or

change none
Linn: thats the whole prob here
Cyberwitch: not change anything else
Cyberwitch: you are not listening
OneSummer: as I see it you have a person with a concern
OneSummer: then others pushing to make more problems
Linn: no
Guri Lady: 2 mins
Linn: just to be sure all is done fairly
ShanKahtus: OH?
ShanKahtus: kerstin?
OneSummer: that is not for the well being of all the communites
ShanKahtus: what was changed
OneSummer: so now your saying your a judge
ShanKahtus: Baron changed his own sign?
Cyberwitch: I will not talk than till people are really ready to listen to
waht was done or forget it
Kerstin: Baron's nomination was for DMPartz. this sign says BvSLabZ
ShanKahtus: OH Really?
Baron von Shrike: AW changed the name of the world at my request at the time
of renewal.
OneSummer: good cause there are people here I am thinking that want to just
cause problems
OneSummer: as always
ShanKahtus: that is definately grounds for a suit
OneSummer: and not work for the betterment of the communites
ShanKahtus: let me get a picture of this sign
Linn: no OS you are wrong
Kerstin: there are people here who want this to be fair to everyone OS
Cyberwitch: if he did he jsut might screw up his voting too
OneSummer: well Kerstin
ShanKahtus: yep yep yep
OneSummer: your on the committee for Cy's
Linn: Kerstin is right
OneSummer: you wait until now to say something was wrong
OneSummer: please
GALLANT Sir Gary: probly when they decided to BE the committee
Weebo: yep we jumped in and helped when it was needed
Baron von Shrike: Kerstin?
Weebo: we done what we could do when we could
Linn: i propose we cancell till next year this will never work now
Weebo: if you have a problem maybe you can join the rules committee next
year
maki: oh gee...I wasnt aware people could change the nominations to the
thing they want nominated...lol
FreeFLYER: We would encourage eveyone to please go visit thoses
siote of nominations you can go to there are many

talented peopl in aw
Weebo: we could sure use the help
LadyALucard: it will work, but you must be BIASED of no one
FreeFLYER: adn of course i know you al can read typonese right
Linn: cancell till next yr
ShanKahtus: Go to Shanwrks
Talisan: I understand and appreciate all the work you folks have done.
Perhaps this can all be a learning experience for the future if

you folks are not too fed up to be around again next year ;)
LadyALucard: that is why anyone on the committee should not be up for the
award
Linn: right
ShanKahtus: I agree
Linn: thats why it was a mess to start with
ShanKahtus: the sign behind me
FreeFLYER: We have found so many gremlins this year and sure they will
be put to death before next year's event
Baron von Shrike: is that the correct spelling?
Baron von Shrike: shan?
Malka: gotta watch for conflicts of interest... to maintain integrity..
GALLANT Sir Gary: thatts why the rule was made in the first place
maki: indeed...then this will solve the free right to choose what you want
nominated problem? lol
Linn: that and empty worlds in top 5
Malka: that is a given..
LadyALucard: or excuse me for saying so, building right next to where the
voting is to take place if you are nominated
ShanKahtus: and Several Avs
ShanKahtus: naaaaaaaaa
ShanKahtus: that is correct as is
ShanKahtus: OH good
ShanKahtus: thanks
Baron von Shrike: and does the teleport land people exaclty where you want?
GALLANT Sir Gary: yea geeee what could the reason be for that
Baron von Shrike: does the teleport work?
Linn: well this years has no meaning behind it
Linn: :-(
ShanKahtus: thank you very much for being fair about this and thank you all
for all the work you have done
LadyALucard: it does for me Linn you know why?
FreeFLYER: : )
Baron von Shrike: thanks for your patience.
Linn: why?
ShanKahtus: I am sure you did not get paid for it
Weebo: we did the best we could do :) maybe next year you could join the cy
team
ShanKahtus: and i very much appreciate it
LadyALucard: because the judges decided and not by recruiting votes
ShanKahtus: Going to set my avs up properly thanks again
Guri Lady: Welcome to the Cy Awards Community Voting Area. :)
Guri Lady: Teleports have been set up for easy access and viewing of the
nominees work.
Linn: lol
Linn: a joke it is
Guri Lady: We would encourage everyone to please take the time to visit as
many nominated sites as you can.
LadyALucard: so i am honored this year, and i think it will still work once
the bugs are worked out
Linn: too late for that now
Guri Lady: Once you are ready to cast your votes, proceed to the voting
area.
CarLBanks: when will voting be working
LadyALucard: i really do think NO ONE should be allowed to build anwhere
near here
Linn: lol
LadyALucard: or have signs ups but what is here
Linn: then cover it
Guri Lady: Signs with the nominees names will be posted in the voting area.
To vote for a nominee, simply click on the sign with their

name on it.
GALLANT Sir Gary: i did!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Guri Lady: You may only vote for one nominee in each category. Any
additional names clicked will be discarded.
Guri Lady: Each citizen is allowed to vote only once. Attempts to vote more
than once will not be registered.
Hoppi: where is voting area?
Jardine:
Guri Lady: Please note: You can not revoke your vote once it has been cast,
so be very careful where you are clicking.
Linn: hi Jardine
Jardine: hi Linn
Talisan: to the right Hoppi
ZaroLene: hey Linn
LadyALucard: Summer?
Linn: hi Z
ZaroLene: hi Hoppi
Guri Lady: The CyVoteBot will tally all the votes and it will tell you how
many categories you voted on.
Talisan: How long will voting be open for?
Baron von Shrike: the voting area teleport has been temporarily disabled.
sorry for the inconvenience
Guri Lady: Okay, hun.
Guri Lady: :)
LadyALucard: Gury lady are we supposed to turn in coords or soemthing?
Guri Lady: Sorry folks that it was turned on. :)
Guri Lady: Do you now have cords?
Hoppi: Hi Zarolene
Guri Lady: that=thought
LadyALucard: i can get them if you need them or just into gz is fine it is
the entrance to the world hehehe
Griffin HLR: hugs Hoppi , hugs Zaro :)
Guri Lady: Oh hehe
Hoppi: Hugs Griff
ZaroLene: hi Griffin
Guri Lady: Welcome to the Cy Awards Community Voting Area. :)
dreamer2: hiya - mind if I go visiting some nominated sites?
Guri Lady: Teleports have been set up for easy access and viewing of the
nominees work.
FreeFLYER: At this poin Lady A if you put sign to specific at Your GZ
would be helpful
CarLBanks: when will voting bot be up
Guri Lady: Please do, dreamer. :)
dreamer2: kewl ;) thankee
Guri Lady: :)
CarLBanks: *waits for voting bot8
Talisan: lol, now it's an event. :)
Guri Lady: hehe
CarLBanks: I'm also done deciding
Guri Lady: Hiyas, everyone. :0
Guri Lady: :)
Guri Lady: ((hugs))
CarLBanks: ok
CarLBanks: where is votig bot
CarLBanks: I'm done deciding
Garnet: hello Guri :) huggss
Aleena: Kerstin?
Kerstin: yes aleena i'm here
Hoppi: is voting open?
Baron von Shrike: I am awaiting word from "on high" to activate the voting
teleprt
LadyALucard: do you want it in whisper FreeFlyer?
Guri Lady: Welcome to the Cy Awards Community Voting Area. :)
Kerstin: aleena you had 3 nominations in write-in category but you only have
one sign and there are no teleports -- ask baron to

change it
CarLBanks: I'm done Guri
Hoppi: Can I be "on high"? I say go
Baron von Shrike: :)
CarLBanks: we need voting bot open
Guri Lady: Teleports have been set up for easy access and viewing of the
nominees work. We would encourage everyone to please take the

time to visit as many nominated sites as you can, there are many talented
people in aw.
Guri Lady: Waiting for the voting bot, carl :)
Garnet: oh a voting bot? oh cool
CarLBanks: I gotta goto AWTeen at 7:30
Guri Lady: Okay. We trying to hurry. :)
FreeFLYER: well Carl we will be open all week
Guri Lady: Thank you for being patient.
LadyALucard: ok then it would be ALucard 0n 0w then hehehe
Guri Lady: ((hugs)) to all
Hoppi: voting will be open for days I think
CarLBanks: I have decicded
CarLBanks: ok going to AWTeen
CarLBanks: I'll be back after show
Guri Lady: Okay, Carl Thanks. See you then ((HUGS))
LadyALucard: so when you vote it teleports you to that world?
GALLANT Sir Gary: no
GALLANT Sir Gary: these are the nominees
LadyALucard: ok
Cyberwitch: eveyone when go into the tepoeport room check people out than go
there
GALLANT Sir Gary: there is a teleport to go to the voting area
Garnet: hi there Baron :)
Baron von Shrike: hyas hun :)
Cyberwitch: you have whole week to do it
Guri Lady: The signs in the "viewing" area for nominee will teleport you to
their build
Garnet: been busy I see :)
Guri Lady: Teleports have been set up for easy access and viewing of the
nominees work. We would encourage everyone to please take the

time to visit as many nominated sites as you can, there are many talented
people in aw.
Weebo: please check on the web page
LadyALucard: oh ok
Guri Lady: :)
Baron von Shrike: :)
FreeFLYER: The teleports are for your convinience in veiwing the
nominee's work
Aleena: Bye all
Cyberwitch: than when ready for for your chose of one vote per room
Weebo: let's go with it
Guri Lady: Yes.
LadyALucard: bye bye Aleena
Cyberwitch: rememebe you don't have to vote all on same day
FreeFLYER: the voting bot will hankde your votes soon as it is up and
running
FreeFLYER: handle
Cyberwitch: the bot will tkae care of it
Guri Lady: Once you are ready to cast your votes, proceed to the voting
area.
LadyALucard: too bad you can't block this area off until it is all worked
out
Cyberwitch: but remeber be careful before voting
Guri Lady: The teleport is now ready :)
Cyberwitch: casue one vote in room can not change it
Guri Lady: To vote for a nominee, simply click on the sign with their name
on it.
Garnet: Cyberwitch.. how many days will the voting take place?
Cyberwitch: before voting check out the teleports
Cyberwitch: one week
Cyberwitch: till the 21
Guri Lady: Each citizen is allowed to vote only once. Attempts to vote more
than once will not be registered.
Garnet: :)
Cyberwitch: so take your time
Guri Lady: Please note: You can not revoke your vote once it has been cast,
so be very careful where you are clicking.
Cyberwitch: yes only one vote per cit
GALLANT Sir Gary: boy that aint much time
FreeFLYER: the voting bot should be working now
GALLANT Sir Gary: we were down more than that
Guri Lady: The CyVoteBot will tally all the votes and it will tell you how
many categories you voted on.
Garnet: Gallant .. you dont hink you can make your mind up in a week?
Cyberwitch: will if you visit two rooms perday you csan than able to vote
for all rooms
GALLANT Sir Gary: was to be three weeks i thought
GALLANT Sir Gary: some ppl only come on on the weekend
FreeFLYER: voting will take place for one week please ask everyone you
know to take advantage of the teleports and please do

vote
GALLANT Sir Gary: or a day off drom work
Griffin HLR: sorry..... how many votes do you get? did you say 1... or 1 per
catagory?
OneSummer: Yes Griffin HLR
Cyberwitch: So please take your time check out peoples places
LadyALucard: man i coulc get lost here hehehe
Cyberwitch: you have all week to look and vote
Weebo: plenty of time
Cyberwitch: on vote per room per cit
Weebo: can always come back if undecided
Cyberwitch: no
LadyALucard: why only a week, is there a hurry?
Cyberwitch: never that
Griffin HLR: ahhh ok . per room *s* ty*s*
GALLANT Sir Gary: yea i thought there was to be a list of finalists that had
been reduced to like 5 per catagory or something like that
Guri Lady: Cy Awards Community voting closes on Saturday, September 21st, at
7pm VRT.
LadyALucard: there you are hehehe
Weebo: that was for the selection committee on the last

Sep 18, 2002, 9:08pm

Dion,

The original owner of the domain let it expire. That person is no longer in
the community. That person made an assumption that Goob would grab it right
up, and I have no doubt that Goob has been trying to do just that. Goob
tried several times to get the domain the right way from the original owner,
but that person didn't want to take the trouble to do it that way. However,
someone else got it first and doesn't care about its intent, they only care
to make a profit off it, not to use it for any other purpose. When those
people found out people were interested in this domain, they hiked the price
up even further. From what I read the price they wanted originally was 1250
dollars... which is pretty outrageous for a non-profit news service run by
Goob. Then they hiked it up even further to a nutty and absurd price of
10k(if I read correctly). I HOPE you are not agreeing with the way these
people do business. It would make you look pretty bad as well.

--Talisan

Sep 26, 2002, 12:51am

Wow, that Lycos page looks really cool, wish I could read it :))

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Sep 26, 2002, 12:54am

Wow, that video really looked nice. I wish the blurrier areas were quite not
as blurry, but I know you were working withing constraints. Really liked it
though :) Good work!

Oct 27, 2002, 7:28pm

> I did Goober. However I think that as AW improves the browser, the old AW
will look
> more and more outdated and will EVENTUALLY have to be retired. Hopefully
by then,
> most (if not all) of the objects will be migrated in some form over to the
New AW,
> which will be ANYTHING but an experiment.

Wow, I think someone has a major case of imagination. There are nearly a 100
people testing NewAW and the new AW3.4 browser right now and I think would
all concur that there will be no migrated property from AW to NewAW. This
includes the OP and Builds. 99% of all AW builds would never have a chance
of fitting onto a 3x3(20click square) property in NewAW. And most of the old
style objects from AW would not mesh with the cleaner and less ridged
looking objects found in NewAW. The concept of the 2 worlds is completely
different. In AW I have nearly half a million objects I've placed... at the
current rate of exchange in NewAW, that's roughly 50,000,000 credits I've
spent ;) No way in heck can I earn that much in NewAW in my entire lifetime
;) You will never see massive builds in NewAW. :) No doubt the current
system of earning credits may change, and the cost of objects to build with
will change on a per object basis.

AW will remain for years to come I believe. Too many people have spent too
much time in there building their labors of love, and I doubt that will ever
stop!

Oct 27, 2002, 7:42pm

WHY do you as a community condemn such a wonderful group of people like the
Goreans? WHY are you as a community so prejudiced against something you know
nothing about?

Gor is not about sex at all. I keep hearing ignorant people saying it is, I
keep hearing these ignorant people say that Goreans are sick and perverted
S&M perverts. There is absolutely NO relationship between the 2.

Gor worlds are based on 25 fantasy/scifi novels. I have read books by many
different authors in the scifi/fantasy category that run similar themes in
their books, but I bet if someone created a world based on Piers Anthony's
Adept series that NO one would have an objection and claim they were S&M
worlds.

Fight your fight with the right people! Learn something! Quit being so damn
ignorant!

Oct 27, 2002, 9:02pm

I completely agree that Tourists should be allowed back into AW. We lost
some good upstanding citizens when that was changed. I miss Lara! *sniffs*

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Oct 29, 2002, 9:20pm

*chuckles* Upgrading it and you don't do anything with it? AW Addict? *looks
guilty*

Nov 5, 2002, 10:09pm

You have my vote. Close down the newsgroup Flagg please!

Nov 7, 2002, 11:15pm

With all due respect to you Elyk, but it appears that you are attempting to
cause deliberate trouble with some of your recent posts.

> What Daphne is saying is that they shouldn't promote that kind of adult
> content. After the CY Awards, I visited the adult world that won the award
> and found some very inappropriate pictures of a woman sitting on a guys
lap,
> naked and having sex.

Where the heck was this? You won't find this in GZ on any world I've ever
visited. But if you did, you went into an X rated world. Certainly wasn't
GorVernA. I'd appreciate knowing which world so I can see this for myself.

> This shouldnt be displayed as some of AW's "best".

Why not? Why should a world, because it has a nude picture in it, be
discluded from receiving an award if it deserves to for the merits of the
award and by popular vote? 2 worlds you object to did win awards, they did
so because people voted for them and had more votes than other nominee's.
That's the point behind a vote. Are you now going to have an Elyk Award show
where you forego voting and give out awards to what you think should win
them? All worlds in the AW universe ARE part of the community. Therefore all
worlds in the AW Universe should be allowed to win a CY award by popular
vote.

> Do
> you ever watch the news reports about the types of websites that are
online
> now? You don't see them promoting that. I believe the news described those
> types of pictures as "filth." Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the
> world was filth....but some of their content is. The CY Awards are a
> "Community" thing. People of all ages make up the community, including
> children. If we promote that kind of content, then it will bring more of a
> negative impression to people about ActiveWorlds.

Yes, the community is a range of all ages. But, it has been suggested too
many times recently that we should disclude adults worlds... well, how would
you appreciate it if instead of discluding adults, we instead disclude
anyone under the age of 18? Turn the boat around and make it so only worlds
owned and operated by 18 years of age or greater and only visitable by 18 or
older were the only people considered allowed to win a CY award. I can think
of many people here in this group who would very much argue against that and
passionately so.

So far I can count 5 people in this newsgroup who have gone over the top in
arguing that adult worlds should be discluded. They have done so very
passionately, not always thinking out their ideas, making assumptions,
trying to force their view of the world. I am not trying to force you to go
to any adult worlds, nor am I attempting to change your view of adult
worlds, but I am attempting to convince the people in this newsgroup that
discluding a significant portion of the community from the CY's is wrong,
morally, and ethically.

--Talisan

Nov 11, 2002, 10:48pm

nt

Feb 10, 2003, 7:22pm

There are several issues with AW and the community that have caused an
exodus.

1. 20 dollar accounts have now nearly completely expired and thus not
renewed.
2. awb3.4 is severely late in coming and people no longer want to wait.
Feature creep has taken over, driving by a few indivuals who coerced the
programmers to implement features too early.
3. constant arguments in the community over irrelevant issues... people
getting into the face of others business
4. tourist access denied in the majority of the worlds
5. competition in competing software environment, including the abundance of
online games
6. better chat access elsewhere, without brow beating moderation(ie AwGate)
7. Lack of AW Corp/Inc(whatever) to be competitive, flexible and leading
edge.
8. Poor/Unprofessional behavior online by certain AW staff in global mode
9. Lack of a professional advertising model
10. Poor reviews by the profession media
11. Poor propoganda by AW and better propoganda from competitors
12. Lack of community zeal and support found in the past... due to citizens
previously abandoning AW and also due to personal attacks made against some
that were unwarranted and moving on to greener pastures.(Eep for example was
very zealous and we all had issues against him, but he was great at what he
did and the support he gave aw and the coercion/pressure he gave to the aw
staff)
13. related to the rate charge mentioned in #1. the price of AW is
non-competitive with regards to value given by the product vs other
competitors which give more value for the buck.
14. lack of leadership in the AW organization.
15. The abandonment of AW personal to work with other projects/companies to
further their own careers(which I don't blame on them in the least and of
course wish them WELL)

I'm speaking from observation and trying to be unbiased. I am NOT
deliberately attacking anyone, though I do imply certain individuals in my
comments. We all have our own agendas and some take priority over others
with lack of thought and consequences as to the future of the product. With
stong leadership, and clear set of goals, and an adherance to a time table,
I believe things would be different than they are today... however, the time
table and the set of goals were thrown out the door at least 3 times that I
can count... which illustrates the lack of strong leadership.

Regardless of the 15 reasons I stated to answer your question, I do intend
to stay with AW. I am not entirely sure if I will renew the 5 worlds I
currently have licenses for, but I do indeed intend to remain a citizen
using account 296829(Talisan) for as long as I can afford it.

Respectfully,
Talisan

Feb 10, 2003, 7:59pm

God how I agree with you on the issue of Tourists. I used to bring in dozens
of people into AW myself all the time. I would tell them how great AW was,
how cheap it was, and how much quality chat they could get in AW.... and the
bonus of being creative in AW was a huge bonus.

Now.... sadly... several of the people I brought to AW who actually PAID for
accounts are now moving on.... they SEE how addicted they became to
building.... they see how much they enjoyed chatting.... BUT they are not
willing to pay so much for what they get. Sad but true.... and I've seen
several of my friends in RL abandon their accounts.... which is not so bad
for me, cus I can still talk to them in person or on the phone.... but its
bad for AW. The "draw" is gone.

I will stay with AW as long as I can... I will not abandon her.... but it
sounds to ME as though AW will eventually DIE and move on, that the
programmers and staff will finally realise that they can find better, more
mobile positions with other entities. *sighs*

Respectfully,
Talisan

Oct 12, 2004, 3:49am

It's very sad that he died. It's even sadder that the people that replied to
your post saw past it and became critical over stupid spelling/gramar.

He was a fun actor. I enjoyed watching him act... though his last superman
act was stretching it thin. I wish he had the life he deserved.

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Dec 23, 2005, 2:14pm

While in AW today, I noticed that all the objects I clicked on didn't have
creation dates. Is this a change in the browser or am I missing something?

Dec 23, 2005, 2:30pm

Hmm, I'm using build 568 on 2 machines, one shows dates, the other does not.
Is this a configurable option?
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Dec 23, 2005, 4:29pm

*gulps and ducks* My bad!
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Dec 23, 2005, 11:26pm

http://www.darkestdestiny.com/aw34soundset01.exe

I've had a file sitting on my server for a long time. According to the logs,
no one has downloaded it. :P Back when AW introduced sounds to building, I
created this set of sounds to replace the default ones. I preferred them at
the time.

Thought I'd share. Happy Holidays everyone.

Feb 15, 2006, 3:15am

The file has now been deleted from the server and is no longer available.

Jan 6, 2006, 11:16pm

If I recall, correctly. if there are more than X number of lights, only the
closest to your av will show up. I think X = 8, but been such a long time
since I read it.
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Jan 11, 2006, 7:26pm

nt

Jan 10, 2006, 3:03am

Well, I went in myself, and it is very clearly Activeworlds, logo and all. A
lot of changes, 9 9 9's bot was in there from NewAW... or one very similar
from when I was in beta a couple of years ago. Same terrain, same tree's(as
the new ones in AW) and many new objects. I think I even saw particle
effects. Something I'd like to explore for my worlds. I suspect the video
you found(which I watched) was a demo presented to Wells Fargo... and maybe
rejected due to size or cost or some such. The video you linked too was
definitely SL. Possible also that the two firms are still in competition?
Just speculating.
I think it would be great if AW won such a contest... being the underdog. I
think AW has an incredible potential which I think has not been properly
utilized. I wish the AW team great success. We all win if they do.

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Jan 11, 2006, 7:24pm

nt

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