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Nov 13, 2002, 9:00pm

"hal9000" <hal9k3 at attbi.com> wrote in
news:3dd2d21e$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> how about a section for tools?

Good idea, maybe something for a site revision. In the mean time, tools
could be published in the misc section perhaps?

KAH

Nov 15, 2002, 8:40pm

"hal9000" <hal9k3 at attbi.com> wrote in
news:3dd47911 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> How about stat tracking? I.E. how many downloads, latest download,
> etc.... and some way to use an external link as the file, I will
> upload the source to a couple of my bots, but I would like people to
> go through my website to download the executable version.

Stats and other things that developers can find interesting to know will be
added soon, the site will be continuously improved upon.

To use an external link as the file, just provide the page as the mirror
(and be sure to tell us in your comment) and our download handler will
automatically redirect users to whatever URL was provided as mirror,
provided that the mirror is available and is returning a valid success HTTP
response code (200, or 302 in the case of a redirection). We would prefer
it that you mirror a copy of the file you uploaded to our server, though. I
think we need a "bot homepage" field :-))

KAH

Nov 17, 2002, 12:58pm

"chiana" <stonkingv8 at hotmail.com> wrote in news:3dd7a8d8$1
at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> i came accross this bot its in beta at the moment
> looks like it has loads of features was wondering
> if anyone has tried it and if it's any good ?
>
> http://www.petrossa.com/Chazbot/

Yes, it is good.

KAH

Dec 4, 2002, 8:01pm

"vips" <spiv at nowhere.com> wrote in news:qgeruu0l4nmnig5o29dk6fdfvqtb67nksf at
4ax.com:

> Since yesterday, hambots seem to have passed away..... Login
> validation permanently fails. Checking out Hamfon's web page I read
> "The downloadable bots that you found here before are now not
> supported, and officially retired." (http://www.hamfon.com/hamfon.htm)

Something major has changed in the protocol it seems, and after some
digging I found that the real RC returned is 58 RC_MUST_UPGRADE. The HamBot
is compiled for the SDK build 15. Could someone with VC++ please recompile
it for build 24? I can provide the GPL sourcecode.

Developer note:
This is valid for all bots using old SDK builds, so if you wrote a bot long
ago (or perhaps not so long ago? not sure where the limit is) you might
want to recompile it...

KAH

Dec 4, 2002, 8:51pm

"bowen" <thisguyrules at 7k2.4mg.com.ANTISPAM> wrote in
news:3dee81c8 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> You should be able to compile the source on any compiler. I can try;
> hand it over.
>:\

Nah, it needs MFC crap, and is written in VC++'s freaked up C++. But have
fun trying:
http://kahnews.cjb.net/bots/hamsource.zip (unzip rootdir into what you want
to be the base directory, and the two other zips in subdirs with the same
name as the archives).

KAH

Jan 11, 2003, 5:38pm

"andras" <andras at andras.net> wrote in
news:3e1fe536$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> After a long and heated debate with Brant, I have no other choice but
> warn the community about the behavior of Brant's programs. His
> programs which are sharing the same splash screen "calls home" without
> the user's approval. Brant has a "Privacy policy" posted on his
> "General Info" page wich is not linked directly from the pages he
> mentioned above ( http://www.shoemakervillage.org/programs.html ).
> Read it and decide yourself if it makes you comfortable.
>
> Here is my last post regarding to this issue. More can be read at
> news://news.andras.net/AW.VillageBeta newsgroup under the thread:
> [demeter] Security problem .

I can confirm that this warning is nothing but a HOAX. I had my packet
sniffer check what it did, and it only sends a HTTP/1.0 GET request for
/current.txt to www.shoemakervillage.org.

This is the exact query:
GET /current.txt HTTP/1.0
User-Agent: tlsNet.HTTP
Accept: */*

this means that it sends a GET request to see the current.txt file in the
document root of the server. It sends two headers, one specifying what
client sent it (in this case I believe it's an ActiveX control from
Microsoft), and what kind of documents it accepts (in this case, any).

There is absolutely no information about you or your system in this
request (off course, the server will get your IP address, but so does any
other server or peer you connect to), except that one can deduce that
you've (probably) used one of Brant's bots (the current.txt file is an
INI-formatted file containing file locations for Brant's various bots).

Please do not take this HOAX seriously, and do not let it ruin a serious
programmer's reputation.

Andras, with respect, this is total bullshit. A documented update-finding
feature that doesn't transmit any information about the end-user or it's
system does not qualify as spyware. I would be carefull about making such
false accusations in the future, you never know when you might encounter
someone keen on sueing you...

KAH

Jan 11, 2003, 5:43pm

Forgot to include this in my post.
You can see the entire session with www.shoemakervillage.org I sniffed at:
http://home.no.net/awphp/demeter.sniff.txt

If you think I made that up, have a go with a packet sniffer yourself.

KAH

Mar 2, 2003, 10:43am

"goddess innie" <ami at chazdesigns.com> wrote in
news:3e615bfa$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> well, actually......It is the fact that AW is charging so much for
> their bot. I mean, after buying a world, hosting, object path, etc.
> That just seems like alot more money, when I know a better one can be
> (and has been) created.
>
> I have tons of loyalty to AW, but I mean really, they dont have to
> charge that much for a freaking bot! I am doing it for now, but
> loyalty or no.....My husband is going to build one for me.
>
> ($34/month)
>
> And, speed bingo is ALOT more fun!!!!

If you know a better one exists, go talk to the authors, maybe they'll give
it to you.

KAH

Feb 24, 2003, 9:55pm

"yanst" <ayansta at hotmail.com> wrote in
news:3e5a87aa at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> Apologies that this is late.
>
> A couple of people are looking for a Bingo Bot. If anyone knows where
> one can be obtained, please post it to the group.
>
> Also, regarding the bingo bots that were in use (and may still be in
> use) in bingo worlds, it has been said that these are not truly
> calling random numbers. Now, I'm not real savvy on programming, am
> just passing along this information. (I did pass along this
> information in an email to Activeworlds a few months ago; however,
> don't know if anything has been done to correct the problem.)
>
> Perhaps someone can get with a programmer to make a Bingo Bot that is
> available to not only bingo worlds, but also the kids or whoever else
> would like to use one.

You won't get more bots by posting more posts :-)) What you were told is
probably someone being a bit silly, as numbers generated by computers can
never be totally random, it's all based on maths, but it does try to the
extent it's to generate random numbers. I wouldn't worry about it. Go nag
the AWI about making their bot free or something instead of nagging us.

KAH

Mar 7, 2003, 9:32pm

"yami trunks" <Chris101d at attbi.com> wrote in
news:3e692784 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> http://www.petitiononline.com/ejectTW/petition.html
>
> Please many have been wronged by this theiving hacker, go here and
> sign it! Please Suport our cause in getting rid of this monster.!

Oh come on, I'm sure that person hasn't "hacked" anyone. Please don't post
to all newsgroups, especially as it's off-topic in most of them.

KAH

Apr 12, 2003, 10:31am

"equin0x" <equin0x at activeworlds.com> wrote in
news:3e97578f at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> You cant spell, your attampt to kick him out is stupid and he is not a
> hacker. If he can hack Aw software, then...hell, im not even going to
> bother... He can't hack it.

And you don't know how to check the post date. The latest post in this
thread over a month old...

KAH

Mar 8, 2003, 11:05am

Hi, I'm about to begin work on a new and improved version of
http://bots.omegauniverse.com/. To be able to create the ultimate bot site,
I need to get input from the people who might use the site. That is, people
interested in using bots and people who develop bots. I'd appreciate it if
you visited the site, had a look around there and told me what you think is
good, what's not so good, what should be added. Mail suggestions to me
(kah at kahnews.cjb.net) or reply to this post.

I appreciate all input, thanks in advance :-))

KAH

Mar 8, 2003, 1:08pm

"grimble" <grimble2000 at btinternet:com> wrote in
news:3e6a0662 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> Why was the followup for this set to "bots" only? Surely this is
> relevant to SDK also.

I usually set a followup-to when I crosspost, and I picked bots.

KAH

Mar 21, 2003, 11:24am

"avel" <matt at incenter.org> wrote in
news:3e7a0baf$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> Back on the topic of the Yugi Bot Script.... would someone write one?
> minus the attacking and stuff
>
> at least having it define words from partial descrips, maintain life
> count adjustable by the duelers, and calcualtor work,dice rolling and
> coin flipping... that is all
>
> I have seen many bots like this on IRC ....anyone willing to make one
> /script for AW?

Maybe you could use one of the IRC (I suppose it's really mIRC) scripts and
port it to Xelagot or some other scriptable bot?

KAH

Mar 26, 2003, 3:09pm

"slipaway" <mark at nextechcom.com> wrote in
news:3e8147ab$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> Ok, weird. It works on my local machine, but I tried it on two other
> computers, and it will simply "download" a file, but it doesn't
> teleport the user. Why would it work on one computer, but not the
> others? Also, where is it supposed to download the file to?

You have to associate the MIME-type of the file to the AW browser. It's
just a little pointer for the browser. If you're not going to use it from
outside the AW browser then never mind it, just use AW's script (it won't
actually request it, just parse the URL).

KAH

Apr 5, 2003, 8:11am

"slipaway" <mark at nextechcom.com> wrote in
news:3e8c711c$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> Has anyone written a script for a Xelagot that would work with PayPal?
>
> I have a UniServer, and I was wondering if it is possible to do three
> things:

I doubt this is possible with Xelagot, as I don't think it's got any
HTTP/socket interface.

> 3) Create a script so that when you click on the "register" button on
> the AW Browser it would accept a PayPal payment, and then upon
> accepting payment, a bot would create and enable a new user account?

This option is not possible. You wouldn't like it if all your registration
info (including CC#) was broadcasted to bots, would you?

Ditch all this bot stuff, just use the built-in system. If your universe is
legal, that is...

KAH

May 31, 2003, 3:45am

"the architect" <user at domain.invalid> wrote in news:3ed83e57$1
at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> First off, I am using Java, through the SDK provided by AX Logic
> (http://www.axlogic.com/aw/).
>
> I have a bot that does a 5x5 query. First, I tried looking (for a
> specific object which I *know* is right there) by Description. Didn't
> work. then, I tried looking by Model. Nope. Then, just out of
> curiosity, I used AWObject.allObjects, which should basically be a hit
> on *every* object. For each object found, I have the bot speak the
> model string. I noticed that several objects aren't being found at all.
>
> Any idea why I might miss objects when I don't constrain my search? I
> mean, they are right beside my bot.

Show us your code. BTW, this is a question for the SDK group. I don't know
what AWObject.allObjects would be, seems like some sort of Java-wrapper
speicific thing?

KAH

Jun 9, 2003, 12:24pm

"john" <john at 3d-reality.com> wrote in
news:3ee366ff$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> Or someone bought domain, lol

I don't think let grimmsoft.com go to activeworlds.com in that case (if you
add the www. it will take you to the "coming soon" page), nor would they
register it under the organization name "GrimmSoft" ;-)

KAH

Jul 24, 2003, 10:09am

"darksville" <craigrood at btopenworld.com> wrote in
news:3f1fc261 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> Is it true that the link below is a virus? im no trying if it is !

If you read the post and checked who it was from, you'd see it was a
removal utility from AWI.

KAH

Jul 24, 2003, 9:11am

"ciena" <nikona at comcast.net> wrote in
news:3f1fb4ae at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> Does anyone know if a bot can build terrain in a world 250x250?

A bot can do 65500x65500 terrain (in any world actually) if you want to
wait, so yes, 250x250 will work fine.

Aug 9, 2003, 9:48am

"baron sweetman" <petrossadeletethis at msn.com> wrote in
news:Xns93D1F033B7649petrossa at 64.94.241.201:

> tnx Andras. Seems like a weird bunch of hardly connected programs
> though. The uniserver runs on ini's or SQL, the world runs on Ctree,
> the SDK queries both....Cant say this looks like a well planned
> enterprise :)
>
> Still doesnt retract from my experience that sending a lot of messages
> brings down the world, thereby showing that its not a database problem
> but a buffer problem.

Actually, I believe the UniServer also operates from a "false" database
system (probably Ctree as well).

KAH

Aug 10, 2003, 10:01am

"baron sweetman" <petrossadeletethis at msn.com> wrote in
news:Xns93D29A1F1452Cpetrossa at 64.94.241.201:

> snippet from database.ini:
>
> [misc]
> ;type=ini
> type=mysql
>
> [mysql]
> host=SERVER
> port=3306
> userid=root
> passwd=

They should add that to the world server.

KAH

Aug 11, 2003, 5:51am

"baron sweetman" <petrossadeletethis at msn.com> wrote in
news:Xns93D4575F93A8Dpetrossa at 64.94.241.201:

> LOL i was just making it up :) no it seems they do all in the ini's, was
> just wishfull thinking on my side, sorry :(
>
> But who knows it gives them inspiration ;)

Hehe, you raised my hopes for a second. Oh well, maybe someday :-)

KAH

Aug 18, 2003, 10:24am

"xelag" <xelag at digitalspace.com> wrote in
news:fpe1kv0pepl01c1616vaqpa6985vc50860 at 4ax.com:

> As joeman says, collision detection require a full 3d rendering engine
> in the bot, which bots do not have: download and unzip of objects
> (also passworded one, which is not possible), creating in memory a 3D
> environment, and calculating collision. For precise detection, not
> only boundaries are needed, the full geometry must be calculated.

For most use the boundaries would probably suffice. It would be a monstrous
task trying to implement full collision detection in a bot. It really is a
browser job.

KAH

Aug 23, 2003, 9:10am

"xelag" <xelag at digitalspace.com> wrote in
news:2jhdkv0m6fsq18dpta2g7j4tvpe3luflqf at 4ax.com:

> It is the job ob the browser, locally, to determine collision of its
> own avatar. The world server knows nothing about it, neither do bots.
> When the browser detects collision, it will restrict the position of
> its owqn client avatar. It would be great to have a special event for
> this for bots, but rather useless, as position detection would not be
> possible at the client SDK level.

Think he meant something like the browser sends a message to the world
server, which then sends it on to bots subscribed for that event if it
collides. Of course, as Joeman said, that'll overload any bot with just a
few persons in range.

On the other hand, if you only sent it for objects with a special flag
enabled, it might work. The amount of these events would need to be
throttled down, as getting it between 5 and 100 times a second would still
be very high load. Don't think we'll see it soon :-D

KAH

Aug 18, 2003, 11:39am

Hi, I'm just informing that by request, I'm releasing the source code of my
advanced PhoneBot. It's under the terms of the GNU GPL, which means you get
the freedom to use and develop it, while I still get credit for it.

I must admit the code is horribly messy, the IRC implementation is not 100%
complete, and there is a very incomplete beginning of an ICQ
implementation.

But maybe someone will find it usefull :-))

http://kahnews.cjb.net/bots/aPB_src.zip

KAH

Aug 19, 2003, 9:12am

"john" <john at 3d-reality.com> wrote in news:3f410857
at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> What about msn?

No MSN support. I was working on ICQ because it would require quite few
changes to implement AIM support (the ICQ and AIM-OSCAR protocols are based
on eachother). The guy who requested I release the source had plans of MSN
support, though, so we'll see :-))

KAH

Aug 20, 2003, 9:19am

"strike rapier" <strike at Rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in
news:3f42a3b0 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> I have a problem, and its a big bloody problem! Brants PB bot is
> attacking VB and absolutly everything made from it on my PC! When I
> try to load up the VB IDE It loads up 5 instances of the PB bot
> installer, when I shut down a debug, it loads up an instance of the PB
> bot installer, whenever the hell, I even load a compiled VB executable
> Ive made... PB bot attacks the exe and loads up 3 or 4 instances of
> the installer!!!!
>
> Gahhh I can't get rid of the thing!!! Hey I wouldent mind if it was a
> decent program installer but its not! Anyone got any idea how to fix
> this?

Sounds nice. Maybe one of his library-GUIDs are intruding upon some VB
GUIDs? VB seems to love using GUIDs for identifying everything, so does MSI
(that's what he used for his installer, right?).

KAH

Aug 21, 2003, 9:12am

"strike rapier" <strike at Rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in news:3f43d13a$1
at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> True... but more people know ASP or sufficent VB to do ASP directly...

I doubt it. PHP is more popular than ASP. Anyway, ASP comes from Microsoft.
Do I need to say any more?

KAH

Aug 22, 2003, 10:07am

"joeman" <john at fakeplastic.com> wrote in
news:3f44fa40$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> Microsoft really isn't as bad as its made out to be, sure, there are a
> few young kids saying: "OH ME GAWD! MICROSOFT IS TAKEING OVEN TEH
> WORLD!!! RUN 4 UR LIVEZ!" or "Microsoft is a BIG EVIL CORPORATION THAT
> BURNS BABIES!" or perhaps "ALL MiEKROZOFT programs ARE BAD! at ! THEY
> CRASH ALL THE TIME AND MAKE MY COMPUTER EXPLODE! at !", having not even
> used the product they're talking about ... The rest of us, understand
> that Microsoft is here to stay, their products aren't really half bad
> (bar anything below windows 2000), and that we're just going to have
> to live with them and make the best of it.

We don't have to live with it. Really, we don't. Stop trying to be mature,
it doesn't work.

Their products mightn't have been half bad if they grasped concepts like
program design, good coding, bug fixes, security and the list goes on...
When you look at the way a lot of exploits of MS products work, their total
lack of thinking becomes apparent. I would've thought *you* could see that.
Guess not.

KAH

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