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the lady // User SearchWhat Citizens WantMay 2, 2003, 7:46am
When AW changed their tourists policy and banned tourists I have tried to
fight it, took my web site down, signed all petitions and so on, they do not understand that only people who can see how much fun AW is will create a large community. Especially commercial customers will not invest money into a community with maybe 250 active citizens. The traffic argument does not count at for private worlds. This traffic is payed by the people who host the worlds, not by AW. ----------------------------------- I don't know who you are but can you please stop spamming me with that? i'm not interested and really don't care what aw does anymore. I used to but not anymore. They are just gonna do what they want anyways. ----------------------------------- Yes well that really only shows that ppl have seen that the owners of this program have no care for the community - its all about the cash with them so why should the cits involve themselves in further useless attempts at regaining community? ----------------------------------- well, maybe if i get to talk to ENZO himself about it.................which is unlikely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ----------------------------------- 36 votes!! No that is not hardly representative of the members here. I never heard a thing about it - when or where to vote.. there needs to be more publicity about such things. EVERY world owner should be required to vote. And the results should be what the owners of AW actually do. They do need to work more closely with their PAYING customers about many issues that they ignore. Thank you for letting me know about this poll. If I can help in anyway just let me know. ----------------------------------- seems one need to register and to logon to giving a vote ? if so, a hint: if you allow open access to the voting page, you probably will get more votes. ----------------------------------- Done. I'm all in favor of tourist being allowed anywhere. Just like they used to be. Thanks. ----------------------------------- I have been around here for a long time.. a year before I became a cit.. makes it about 6 years.. was PK 3 yrs with Razzle etc.. you notice that without the Tourists.. doesn't seem to be much need for PKs.. ----------------------------------- already have voted, thank-you :) ----------------------------------- well ..... like I said its interesting *smiles* as far as the tourist thing I think it would be great to have them back... Owning 3 worlds and payin for them to enter two of my worlds its been a little let down ... there is not that many tourist visiting either of my worlds that allow them ..... Also being part of Tours world I've not seen many visit there either.. As a Watchkeeper and AWSTeacher I see the same tourist go to AWNewbie or AWSchool ....... But I"ve also seen too like *tourist name withheld* go to AWNewbie as a tourist and many more members do the same... So as far as tourist traffic or tourist visiting AW I am not sure of the real number of them..... --------------------------------------------- [View Quote] What Citizens WantMay 3, 2003, 1:50am
In 1997, my first day at Activeworlds started in Alpha World. There was
noone explaining why I saw triangles, how to fly, teleport or the ability to access other worlds. I believe I arrived during a transitional time between two owners, which was before the gate was formed. During the course of it all, I remember quite clearly being asked to push my back button, which took me to more triangles. I felt pretty lost. I was thrilled when the creation of the gate happened, but I have mulled over your point myself many times and wholeheartedly agree that AWGate doesn't capture the whole essence of AW. That is why when I made my first attempt at building a town, I included Protagonist's picture and some older models first seen close to Alpha World gz during the early days. It would be nice if AWGate portrayed where we started from versus the newest tinkertoy model. They say the first impression is the most lasting; no better way than to incorporate a little of our history with the new. [View Quote] What Citizens WantMay 3, 2003, 2:44am
[AWNews] Tourist PollMay 1, 2003, 8:58pm
I will take on that responsibility gladly!
[View Quote] So this time around, I'm insisting that you > tell everyone you know about this poll so we can not only get a true > representation of what AW thinks about this issue, but also so ENZO will > actually consider the results! > Goober King > Fight for your right > gooberking at utn.cjb.net > [AWNews] Tourist PollMay 2, 2003, 7:24am
Goober King, I think the thing is the registering to vote. To be honest,
it's a pain. Easier for someone to reply to a telegram. I feel you and AWI want to have an idea of who is voting for what, making sure nobody votes twice, that sort of thing. I understand that but you aren't going to get as many votes and comments that way because of the red tape of registering. Also, it's a privacy issue. I understand AWI's and your take on it, but geez, some people do like to remain anonymous in their opinions. Anyone that sends a comment to me gets it posted here anonymously. I sent out hundreds of telegrams getting your word out, and the result of who votes at your website remains to be seen, but it doesn't look like there is much response. On the other hand, I am overwhelmed at the telegrams I've received with people pretty much pouring their hearts out about their experiences here. Saddness in seeing tourists restricted, paying out lots of extra dollars to have them in their worlds only to see few trickle in. In sharp contrast, maybe it's the combination of having someone one-on-one to talk with coupled with no red tape in registering that gets the response wanted and needed. E N Z O, please, put this on a wild colored Post-It Note on the top of your desk and think about it seriously before you make your tourist decision. [View Quote] Tourist Poll QuestionsMay 1, 2003, 11:26pm
What sort of restrictions should tourists have?
Same as citizens, but only as a 30-day trial Access and build rights in all worlds Access to all worlds, but restricted build rights Keep them as is, but lower world "tourist fee" Everything is fine the way it is now Access to AWI worlds only and no build rights Access to AWGate only Other (explain in comment) When you register, these will be the questions on the page. You select one and vote. More Anonymous OpinionsMay 2, 2003, 8:20pm
I agree that we need to let Tourists back in to as many places as possible.
OK, restricted rights up to a point but I also feel we desperately NEED new blood. How on earth can we get anyone to agree to pay to join AW (at a relatively high cost to most people) if we do not allow them to see what they are being asked to pay for? ---------------------------- I have voted to let them into all the AWI worlds but with limited build rights. ---------------------------- Thanks :) will sure make a vote there! I want the tourists back too ..... --------------------------- I think that world owners should be able to decide if they have tourists without other charges. We pay for our worlds and do all the work in them. It seems that by letting tourists look at those worlds it might cause them to want to be citizens. World owners of *omitted name* We both voted on the web page. It would be nice to know how many paid up Cits there are left. -------------------------- I've already made my wishes known..along with most other PK's..that tourists should be allowed back -------------------------- er, well...i think those good 4 nothin tourists should pay to get useful! Citesens are useful, not Tourists. but i know...we need more tourist build worlds to make them wanna pay! il think about doin it....the less tourists we have the better! the more citesens we have, the Better! il think about doin it Advanced ModeMay 3, 2003, 5:26pm
Why is it that when you start at the gate that one of the first things you
are asked to do is click on "Advanced Mode"? Unfair Beta PracticesMay 3, 2003, 6:08pm
If we are able to download the Beta, we should be able to post in the
newsgroup. It's unfair and is something that should be fixed immediately. Unfair Beta PracticesMay 4, 2003, 7:46pm
I'm very familiar with beta testing for other companies. We are all allowed
to post to one newsgroup. If AWI wants to segregate beta testers, I say it's wrong, but at least compromise and make an open beta newsgroup. [View Quote] Unfair AWHS PracticesMay 3, 2003, 6:10pm
Meetings switched at the last minute, leaving last minute attendees
wondering where we are meeting is unfair. Meeting notes "changed" to correct spelling is unfair. Switching job titles after discussion and assignments have been made at the meetings is unfair. Switching responsibilities after discussion and assignments have been made at the meetings is unfair. All of these are unfair AWHS practices and this should stop immediately. Fairness and equality should be our strengths. Unfair Gatekeeping PracticesMay 3, 2003, 6:12pm
Siting being "too busy" as a reason not to interview, yet at the same time
stepping up the process and giving title to new gatekeepers is unfair Gatekeeping practices. This must stop immediately and be corrected. Fairness and equality must be the strength of the Gatekeeper organization. The Human ConditionMay 3, 2003, 6:18pm
There are people that visit Active Worlds interested in the human condition.
If these problems aren't addressed fairly and vigorously, I intend to find out who they represent and am going to send them all of these violations. Nobody should have to be a citizen under these conditions. MessagesMay 3, 2003, 6:32pm
If I see that guy that talked about human conditions come back to the gate,
I'm going to talk to him. You post your comments above mine to try to not allow my posts to be on top so that people won't read the Truth! Unfair Peacekeeping PracticesMay 3, 2003, 6:40pm
A PK threatening to write me up because I won't remove two signs that were
there before anyone else was in the first place AND were there to be of help to a new builder! This is unfair peacekeeing practices and should be stopped immediately. Fairness and equality should be the strengths of the peacekeeping organization. *BANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*May 3, 2003, 9:08pm
Love?
For the love of all that which is holy, I condemn the evil that takes place here. 1 Corinthians 13:6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the Truth! Evil Be Gone From Here! I am speaking the Truth! [View Quote] For The LadyMay 3, 2003, 9:43pm
SWE,
You are trying to divert my attention. It seems those who have stuck with AW for so long are too weary or blinded to band together and condemn inhumane conditions. I have a responsibility to speak out against the bad treatment that happens here. And it is true, it is evil human treatment. Attacks happen here every day in one form or another. Injustice happens here. But my shield is stronger than the piercing words or vulgar actions of evil because I'm wearing the armour of God. [View Quote] For The LadyMay 3, 2003, 10:12pm
I am standing with the belt of Truth buckled around my waist! I am telling
the Truth with my feet planted in the most peaceful way I can! Ephesians 6:13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. [View Quote] For The LadyMay 4, 2003, 1:20am
I did what had to be done, (from my telegram solicitations of voting to
recent newsgroup postings quoting scripture), knowing very well ahead of time that I would probably be crucified in this newsgroup. Regardless, I know in my heart I have done the right thing-I have faith and am praying that it will bring about change for the better, and that good will prevail over evil. That is my answer to all of your questions below. Apologies if it isn't what you expect or want. [View Quote] For The LadyMay 4, 2003, 7:38pm
SWE,
When you say "most of us also went through this stage*, I do agree with what you have said. The entire community has suffered and spoken out in one form or another. It hasn't just happened to me. I don't agree with what you say about "how much better it is like this". No it is not. It is a very humbling life changing experience, but too much of it hinders everything from the way we relate to each other to what we will pass on to our children. Not good. [View Quote] Complaining - a random thought from JMay 4, 2003, 10:00pm
These are good thoughts, but there have been instances of unfair and unjust
situations regarding some AW organizations. It is hard to get involved in change when your application isn't considered. It begins with calling these types of unfair practices to the attention of community. [View Quote] Complaining - a random thought from JMay 5, 2003, 9:31pm
It's ok to open the can.
I'm quite aware of and am reminded frequently at AWGate of what my reputation is in AW. I know it is not considered to be pure, decent, moral or good. I am genuinely interested in being a part of an organization in AW. At the gate or in AWHS or somewhere. I try to do the best work I can, I try to get along with everyone, I try to do as I am told to the best of my ability. If professionalism counts, so be it. But keep in mind nobody is perfect. Things happen online and in real life that affect the way each person acts and performs in the community. Sometimes those inflictions are not voiced, sometimes they are, depending upon the individual. But to treat that person differently through the application process in any AW organization because they are not what most consider the "norm" is unfair and is a practice that needs to be reviewed with open minds and changed. The first thing leadership should look at regarding an individual wanting to contribute to an AW organization is what gifts and/or strengths does that individual bring to AW and what team of people would he/she best work with. Each individual can contribute here in some way, regardless of their background or problems, and they needn't be given the master controls in order to do that. Everyone that wants to take part in an organization should be able to do so, even if it's keeping a log record.. I have been molded by some very different experiences. It's had its advantages and disadvantages. I bought a new bible two weeks ago and it had this quote in the margin of one of the pages and I hold it dear to my heart because of instances such as the one I am responding to now. It is as follows: Let us look at our own shortcomings and leave other people's alone; for those who live carefully ordered lives are apt to be shocked at everything and we might well learn very important lessons from the persons who shock us. Our outward comportment and behavior may be better than theirs, but this, though good, is not the most important thing; there is no reason why we should expect everyone else to travel by our own road. Teresa of Avila (1515-1582) [View Quote] no auto-upgrade?May 7, 2003, 9:26am
3.4 Open Beta Build 483 available at
http://www.activeworlds.com/products/download.asp ----------- [View Quote] *-Tourists-*May 10, 2003, 7:40am
80 Votes have been cast which is more than double the votes cast the last
time this issue was addressed. Clearly, what the citizens want is for tourists to have access to all worlds, but with restricted build rights (63.75% of those who voted said that). Everyone wants to see the worlds alive with tourists once again. Also, world owners, keep making your opinions known. You help make the difference! How about it AWI? *-Tourists-*May 11, 2003, 12:25am
Well, since prices are much higher than what they used to be, there's a big
chance that most tourists will try to get by with building with 0 for a longer period of time before registering. So, there might be many more people loading the server down, but small percentage of those becoming citizens, which will result in more money being lost by AWI? Not sure. Not as much incentive to pay 6.95 per month when you can build, chat, do everything except you have the vulnerability of having your place deleted. And as big as Alpha World is, you can pretty much count on safely being able to build with 0 for a very long time. Just the ability to have tourists chat (with no building allowed) in all AWI public worlds sounds more reasonable and a safer bet for the time being in my opinion. I guess the thing to keep in mind is, weighing all the new features we get by paying more on one side and being fair with but keeping tourist perks to a minimum (along with keeping citizens happy at GZ's) on the other. I'll get Goober King's opinion regarding a poll. [View Quote] ^Tourists & Newsgroup^May 12, 2003, 3:42am
A tourist poll was conducted at the gate but it did not result in much
information. From what I could gather, there was a vote for Yellowstone being open for build and a vote for Alpha World. I asked Goober King for help in getting a tourist poll and he advised tourists could vote at the same poll in which the citizens voted. Although I advertised this at the gate, there wasn't much response if any. The results are 62.96 % said they preferred tourists have access to all worlds, but restricted build rights. However, there are some important issues that remain. We haven't really heard from an AWI spokesperson regarding how the company feels that what citizens and tourists want will affect them. This is very important because since we are not privy to AWI's day-to-day needs to maintain operation, how do we know that what we are asking for is reasonable? So, it would be very much appreciated to have a spokesperson respond how the change we are asking for will affect them. Also, I am in hopes of and praying that the newsgroup will not be shut down because of inappropriate comments that happened during the weekend. Noone likes to be attacked, but I am very much willing to withstand them in order for change to happen. This newsgroup is our vital link to community. Please understand that if the newsgroup is shut down, it will adversely affect not only this issue, but a variety of other important AW issues that are discussed here on a daily basis. I am in hopes that AWI will see that the tourists matter needs to be addressed promptly and a fair decision be made so that this can be put behind us and the community can move forward. : ) no escape.......(Repost)May 25, 2003, 3:30pm
Strike Rapier, sorry I'm unable to post a reply to beta. This was my
solution: Click on "options" at the top of your screen. Click on "configure controls". Look down the list until you see "Toggle move mode" Set this using a key not currently in use. (My middle mouse button will not toggle move mode as shown in this setting. I don't know if it is my mouse or a beta bug. I have chosen an application key.) After I set this to be controlled by my new key preset, I'm able to get out of mouse mode. By the way, I can sympathize with you. It is extremely frustrating. Hope this helps. The Lady thelady263414 at hotmail.com [View Quote] the end of xealgot botsMay 30, 2003, 12:48pm
xelag,
I'm sorry to see the end of xealgot bots. Hopefully, Activeworlds and you can come up with something that will continue the bot technology. It certainly has a bright future - the possibilities are endless. Sincerely, The Lady thelady263414 at hotmail.com [View Quote] the end of xealgot botsMay 30, 2003, 2:04pm
Actually, it would be wonderful if you could get with Ananas and/or Andras
or some other independent AW citizens that make useful programs. Get together and talk about combining, adding to, enhancing some tools we are already using. [View Quote] |