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May 3, 2003, 6:08pm

If we are able to download the Beta, we should be able to post in the
newsgroup.

It's unfair and is something that should be fixed immediately.

May 3, 2003, 7:22pm

no, its not. you should be thankful they let you download beta!

-SWE

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May 3, 2003, 9:03pm

SWE, you know, if you give the little finger, some wants more, and before
you know, your hand is gone.

Tengel

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May 3, 2003, 10:08pm

i n d e e d .. ... . s o r r y,.t ty p i n g w i thg n o se ...... .. . .....
*( h a n d s g o n e )_



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May 3, 2003, 11:38pm

ROFLMAO, good one.

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May 3, 2003, 11:51pm

we should be thankful they don't let her post in the beta ng..... ;-)

This is a perfect examply of why they only let beta testers post in the beta
group......

-Jeremy

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Jeremy Booker - Owner / Webmaster
JTech Web Systems
www.JTechWebSystems.com
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"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about
itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." -Mathew 5:34
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May 3, 2003, 11:51pm

hehehehehe

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May 4, 2003, 1:19am

Lady,

The beta newsgroup was once open for anyone to post in it, and the resulting chaos was such that the programmers couldn't sort through the nonsense to find real bug reports. The closed beta programs have been much more productive than the AW 3.0 open beta attempt with everyone being able to post to the beta newsgroup.

If you have a bug report, though, you can submit it to shamus at activeworlds.com

Before submitting any bug reports, you should check to see if it's already listed on http://www.activeworlds.com/help/buglist/

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May 4, 2003, 8:09am

Damned Right JerMe :D

- Mark

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May 4, 2003, 12:20pm

It's not unfair. If you had ANY IDEA how real companies - Sierra, Microsoft,
EA - conduct beta tests, you'd know just how fair and equal AWI's system is
(Although AWI's system tends not to work and everyone else's does). The big
companies force you to submit system specs, and in many cases sign a legal
document saying that you won't give the software away or even TELL ANYONE
THAT YOU HAVE IT. Then, they pick only the best and what they feel are the
most qualified (Usually based on spelling ability, number of systems
available for testing, testing experience, variety of hardware combinations)
and then give you access to the beta program.

What AWI asks is "Do you want to be in the Beta program?" and draws names
out of a hat or somthing.

An Open Beta is not a Beta. It's what's sometimes called a "Battery Test"
because it exposes the software to a massive range of platforms in a final
attempt to find bugs. Using an Open Beta does not make you part of the beta
team. Often, such as RIGHT NOW during an open beta, a new revision will take
place, which implements certain changes which may be harmful or damaging -
therefore they do not release them for Open Beta. Once one of these
revisions takes place, the version available for Open Beta is no longer
current, and is generally ignored, because it's possible that any newly
reported problems with that version may have been fixed.

Please visit
http://www.activeworlds.com/products/cancel.asp to rectify any and all
problems you have with AW's practices.

--
Wing
Telling people to 'STFU' since 1986.

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May 4, 2003, 7:46pm

I'm very familiar with beta testing for other companies. We are all allowed
to post to one newsgroup. If AWI wants to segregate beta testers, I say
it's wrong, but at least compromise and make an open beta newsgroup.

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