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AW & Revenue

Mar 31, 2003, 10:24am
Please a straight answer. I don't understand the references to the UN and
all of that.

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AW & Revenue

Mar 31, 2003, 11:12pm
364 days left.

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AW & Revenue

Apr 3, 2003, 2:51am
Good. Nothing to worry about.

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Preliminary 3.4 Info

Apr 5, 2003, 2:32pm
Note: This is NOT an AW company post. It's preliminary, and a project of
one of the citizens!

To preview the unofficial, unfinished project of AW 3.4 help files (still
being written) do the following: Save this file to the Help folder that's
inside of your Active Worlds program folder...
http://host.activeworlds.com/TechnoZeus/aw34/TZ.awh If you would preffer to
download it in zip format and unzip it, that would be
http://host.activeworlds.com/TechnoZeus/aw34/TZ.awh.zip Then open Notepad by
clicking the windows [Start] button, and then Programs -> Accessories ->
Notepad... Without typing anything into the Notapad document (leave it
blank) save it to the Messages folder in your Active Worlds program folder
as TZ.awm Be sure to save as a text file and include the extension so that
it doesn't save with a .txt extension. For example... C:\Active
Worlds\Messages\TZ.awm In Active Worlds, click Options -> Settings...
Advanced... then use the drop box to change from the Default message set to
the TZ message set. It uses the default set to fill in the missing parts of
the selected message set... which is all of it in this case because we used
a blank file... but it will also use the new TZ.awh file that we put in the
help folder. You can change back any time by switching back to Default...
which is all of it in this case because we used a blank file... but it will
also use the new TZ.awh file that we put in the help folder. You can change
back any time by switching back to Default.

It is absolutely awesome!!!!!

Tracked Telegrams?

Apr 6, 2003, 4:51pm
I get a "high alert" notice when I send a telegram (even to myself). The
person scans my port 80. IP address was tracked to Melbourne AU. I don't
know anybody in Melbourne AU.

When oh when is awmapper coming back?

Apr 19, 2003, 2:19pm
You go, comit! It would be nice to have it updated regularly.

Also, I'm unable to get seed bot to work. Is it me or is it seed bot?

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Old Install Pictures Request

Apr 19, 2003, 2:36pm
When first installing "AlphaWorld" there was a picture that flashed a few
moments with "AlphaWorld" written across it from the top to the bottom of my
screen. The colors gradually changed as you glaced down the screen.

There was also one of these for "ActiveWorlds". I can do a quick print
screen for the ActiveWorlds shot, but it doesn't give show the entire
picture. I would really like to have the real thing in whatever format it
was originally in. Also, even though I tried installing an old AlphaWorld
program, it hung up on my machine before I could do the print screen, so I
would like to have the original of that in whatever format it appeared (bmp,
gif, etc.).

Again, these appeared once, right after the installation. They were not a
part of the splash screen.

I believe Mauz was keeping these types of graphics at her web site but I
don't think she has copies of the above request. I'm sure she would
probably like these as well. If anyone knows how to get them, please post
to the group. I have spam controls on my email so I can't get email from
everyone but you can try.

The Lady

Does ANYONE Know How To Make (or where I can get) The following....

Apr 19, 2003, 9:23pm
Try this-

http://www.the-ocean.com/sfx/sfx.html

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> * Gas Station Bell
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> Patrick Cook (e.g. PC Hamster)
> Mayor - City of Hamsterville
> pchamster at attbi.com
> Denver, Colorado (my REAL city)
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Does ANYONE Know How To Make (or where I can get) The following....

Apr 21, 2003, 1:26am
I don't know if someone has already posted an answer to this but I don't
think you are suppose to use a Budweiser logo. There are copyrights.

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Does ANYONE Know How To Make (or where I can get) The following....

Apr 21, 2003, 3:12am
It's a Coca-Cola Classic Ad. They don't make Coca-Cola Classic anymore. I
don't know of anymore ads AW has out there. All the soda machine rwx's have
virtual drinks. No infringement there.

Just letting you know I don't think you are suppose to use it. You make the
final decison.

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Does ANYONE Know How To Make (or where I can get) The following....

Apr 23, 2003, 2:03am
I'd say you are absolutely correct. : )

What I meant to say is they don't use the Coke Classic advertisement
anymore.

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Customs Aide Greets Twice

Apr 20, 2003, 12:19pm
Anyone know why the Custom's Aide is greeting twice?

GK Apps

Apr 20, 2003, 1:37pm
Some applications for GK are not carried through the entire process until a
''yea'' or ''nay'' is concluded.

For someone that enjoys helping and serving others, there's no alternative
but to try to do their best without the proper training.

GK Apps

Apr 20, 2003, 7:22pm
I understand what you are saying, but what does that have to do with being
fair to applicants regarding process for becoming or being denied joining
GK's?

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Let's Plan a Coup

Apr 24, 2003, 11:36pm
Tourists need to be able to enter all public AWI worlds.

Tourists need to be able to build (at least with 0) in all public AWI
worlds.

We need to have the ability to copy objects when we right click at the
object yard.

Let's Plan a Coup

Apr 24, 2003, 11:55pm
Helping tourists learn how to build. Making an effort to place them at
coordinates that are reasonably protected from vandalism. Helping at the
gate. : )

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Let's Plan a Coup

Apr 26, 2003, 12:14pm
World logs can give you the IP address of someone coming in posting
pornography. There should be a way to fix up something to get rid of it
without a human appointed Pornography Scout running around to Zero builds
looking at the url's.

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Let's Plan a Coup

Apr 30, 2003, 1:09am
Nice to see ya Lu. : )

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Let's Plan a Coup

Apr 30, 2003, 1:10am
Tourists need to be able to enter public AWI worlds. When will that happen?

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Beautiful Gate

Apr 25, 2003, 12:39am
It's really very nice. And it looks like all the new world options and
features we are seeing are very configurable, which is great!

Get Wells, Birthdays Problem

Apr 26, 2003, 5:26pm
Looking at some old birthday and get well builds show plain white walks
because of not being able to use other websites to show our pictures. Music
is gone too. Ever since they gave us picture walls and walks, I have been
very concerned about this happening. We want for things to be preserved for
future generations of citizens. There has to be a better way. We pay more
for citizenship, is there a way to incorporate some web space into that
which is never deleted? I'm not going to let this one go. Especially
birthdays, get wells, weddings, very personal acts of kindness from citizens
to citizens. The company needs to understand that while protecting
themselves legally it is a detriment in that it leaves us with nothing to
pass along to future generations of AW citizens.

Listen! You'll continue to hear me over and over and over until some kind
of agreement is reached. No way to leave anything for future generations of
AW if our builds don't stay the way we meant for them to look!

Get Wells, Birthdays Problem

Apr 26, 2003, 7:43pm
If AW would give us something such as Rootsweb does it would be workable.

For instance, you get so much space with your 6.95 per month. If you want
more, you have to pay for it. And it's never deleted. Now for birthday,
get well builds, AW could have a specific set of prints (donated by the
community) so that we wouldnt have to host that on our sites.

There's been no long term planning by the company or the community regarding
preservation of the most important aspect of our community which are acts of
kindness, gratitude, thanks for each other. And it is very upsetting to
view one of these - especially when someone has died, and it is all missing.
It makes me sick - like a graveyard full of bulldozed headstones. What's
the next step? Calling in Trashman to delete since we can't see it anymore
to make way for new builds? No, we can't wait any longer, we must start
taking steps now.

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Tourists+No Pics=Citizens Revolt

Apr 27, 2003, 2:45am
People have maintained their citizenship through no tourists, to higher
prices and probably much more than I or anyone else could ever imagine to
show how much they love this place. It is a lot of suffering and is very
hard to watch. I keep hoping the company will be nice and put a checkmark
in the box to allow tourists in. But after seeing the results of 3.4 Beta,
I know not only will that not happen, but it will only get worse for people
here. The only hope for change is for a community effort......Citizens
Revolt.

We need to form a group. Telegram me if you are interested. (I already
some have interest.) And to those who want to only spy on our revolt by
telegramming me and telling me you are interested, let me say, I am very
familiar with how George Washington won the Revolution. We will See who
outspies who. By the way, we need some spy experts too.

We've been patient, and kind enough and it's time for Change to happen. I
understand that for now we can't have tourists building in public AWI
worlds, but we ask they be let in to talk with us at GZ and other places.

We ask to be able to select objects by right clicking on them and copying
object name and description in the box.

We ask for compromise and more accountability from both sides regarding
jpgs.

Again, I can't stress enough how this needs to be a community effort
Citizens Revolt. One person can't do it, two people can't do it, not even
three. It must be the Community!!

A copy of this was mailed to JP (Cryonics) and if he replies, I will post it
to the group.

Beta Reports

Apr 28, 2003, 11:33pm
Beta newsgroup should be open to everyone using a beta version of the AW
software. Because of this problem, you find beta problems posted to
different groups. I wrote support last week and asked them to allow me to
post in beta. Their reply was that I should write to
support at activeworlds.com about anything to report about beta. I hope they
change their minds and allow citizen beta testers to post to beta newsgroup.

What Citizens Want

May 1, 2003, 1:17am
I'm happy about the responses I've received about allowing tourists into AW.
I don't believe I could have found something more worthwhile and fulfilling
to tackle other than helping someone in the community. Responses are as
follows and more on the way:
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agree......maybe aw should let tourists into" every world" ?..why
should we pay more ? after all we are " recurting for them" as
many of my friends want to see my builds first" before signing up"
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I get tired of PKing to empty worlds too
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why should i pay to have tourists in my privatre worlds? I refuse :)
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this is so true and since now have limit and cc it sould since we are paying
lot more whichb before would had paid our cit and thwo tourist at the good
old days so they are not loosing anything
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I so agree! how do I help out?
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Your help is greatly needed. Opening AWI public worlds back to tourists
will happen only if the entire community speaks out. PLEASE do your part by
posting your opinion to the Newsgroup or sending email to
jp at activeworlds.com The AW experience for us and for future generations of
citizens depend upon making our voices heard. Please read m0e's below post
to the newsgroup:

"Tourist are the life blood of our community, without them, we will not
grow. sure they can be a major pain, but having done 4 years as a PK, I
never grew tired of helping a tourist. for the past year+, tourist have not
been able to enter some of the AWI worlds. because of this, some ppl have
left, and the GZ's of these worlds have for the most part become empty
:-( the bottom line in this is .... tourist should be able to travel to any
of the 'Public' worlds, and if a private world owner is willing to pay, to
their worlds as well I'm tired of seeing dead gz's, and overworked GK's" m0e

What Citizens Want

May 1, 2003, 1:43am
Another opinion.
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You are right however you are wasting your time - I totally agree with you
AW has become barron and without life - the decission to ban the tourist
population has crippled a once fun and exciting universe experience. I own
three worlds and even tho I pay to allow tourists it makes very little
difference because they are basically UNWELCOME in the universe they rarely
come in even though one of my world reguarly is featured in Worlds To
Watch... I WILL not stay with AW when SecondLife.com becomes viable. I feel
that the decission to ban tourists points to the ignorance of those who see
themselves as to important to consider the real needs of this dying
community... Sad!
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What Citizens Want

May 1, 2003, 2:29am
More opinions.......
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I agree with the message. Sadly, I don't AW could care less about the
tourists, They've rasied prices on cits 300%. It's all about money, AW
doesnt care about the "community"
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I feel a lot could change if AW would let ppl use the product freely while
they are deciding weather or not to take out a cit. They could limit Tourist
build rights it say so many hours total then they have to decide to be a cit
or not build. But then at least the worlds would be populated again... U see
they still get their money and there are still ppl on and numbers are up but
they don't really move about much the go to their worlds... U need the
tourists to make it a real Universe experience...
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What Citizens Want

May 1, 2003, 8:54pm
o saer,

I feel AWI has the same deep love and affection for this community and the
overall want for it to survive as we do. However, their job is the business
end of the company. The fact that this looks like what has prevailed over
the last many months doesn't mean this is the way it has to be. An
organized effort by the community asking for change in a reasonable manner
is the job of the Community, not AWI.

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make petitions till you're blue in the face, but if
the owners of AW have their fingers in fun'r pots they'll do it their way. >
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What Citizens Want

May 1, 2003, 9:09pm
I have always agreed.... the real reason tourist were limited was to
generate more money. If tourist could go to any of the bigger buildable
public worlds... no one would pay to have them on private worlds. By now
they should understand the cure was worse than the disease.
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I pay for tourists already not my worry that aw looses people It isnt my
company
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Inside (name witheld) community we tell exactly the same and we ask each
time we can to enable tourists for all worlds like before January 2002. JP
knows our demands and we will continue to ask for it in calm and respect.
You have our support for your message and I hope we will finally be heard :)
Thanks you very much for your engagement on AW and have a nice day ! (sorry
my english is not very good I hope you will understand the sens of my
message :)
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er, well...i think those good 4 nothin tourists should pay to get useful!
Citesens are useful, not Tourists. but i know...we need more tourist build
worlds to make them wanna pay! il think about doin it....the less tourists
we have the better! the more citesens we have, the Better! il think about
doin it
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Its the server space that a non paying customer uses and the policing the
tourists require..i certainly wouldnt want to pay for free users..when im
losing money...the priceswent up thats why people left
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thanks for that gram .. i send my opinion and stated i prefered it when
tourists were allowed access to all worlds :)
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Alphaworld ought to be opened up..I remember being a tourist there..I just
don't think its the same now and it's a real pity
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What Citizens Want

May 1, 2003, 9:21pm
I notice no one brings out the problems we had with tourists *raises
eyebrows and smiles* Interesting how quickly peeps forget those things when
convenient ; :)
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If you think that AW (the company) cares about their users, I've been
trying to get them to help protect children and other users for YEARS, now,
e-mailing them on several occasions, and asking them why AW allows slavery
which is in open violation of US law (where, btw, AW has its business) and
other things, but to no avail. It seems they don't care about the children,
or how many of their users are hurt or killed because of the gor worlds
being here. There's even a little memorial to one of the people killed
(read this page and search for the word faithh "url withheld") that went to
the gor worlds near AlphaWorld's GZ! And that's just one of those we know
about. How many others have been killed that we aren't told about? How
many deaths are too many? In MY book ONE is too many, but AW doesn't seem
to feel that way!

I have made it a point to refer people to other chat programs for quite
some time, now, both in real life and on the Internet in all the chat
programs and Websites I have. I've been a user of AlphaWorld / ActiveWorlds
since 1995 in one identity or another, and the final blow came when AW
'killed off' the tourists throughout the entire program on January 3rd,
2002. That was when I made my decision. Heck, when they later announced
that they'd 'tourist enable' private worlds for a fee, I paid them the same
day because I didn't think it was fair that they'd force people who couldn't
afford their high prices to a single world! Of course, AW hates me so much
that it took them about two weeks to get around to making MY world
accessable to tourists, while doing it for other worlds first... But hey,
that's the way some businesses like to treat their customers. I'm hoping
that AW goes out of business within the next few months, and I'm helping any
way I can!

As for m0e being the kind-hearted guy that the words in the telegram try
to make him out to be... There are VERY few people in AW who are that
gullible. I personally think he's one of the biggest supporters of gor and
slavery there is in AW. Here's a few examples of his 'fairness':

"URL Witheld"

"URL Witheld"

And this from the (then) head of the PKs!

So, if you want ME to help a business that will support slavery, you're
asking the wrong person. The blood of innocents is not going to be on MY
hands!

I tried to reason with ActiveWorlds, and their PKs, but they insisted upon
ignoring my concerns and treating me like this, so when they go out of
business, they've only themselves to blame.
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I speak with the gyus at AW often I have stated this view on every occasion.
the sad fact is that AW only has 6 employees. And revenue currently is
barely adequate to support continued operations. They are justifiably
afraid that returning to the old pricing plan and access rights (tourists)
will diminish revnue to the point that continued operations are no longer
possible (No AW). The are considering allowing the tourist back in once 3.4
is standard (meaning everybody must upgrade) under 3.4 they can allow
tourist returns but disable building rights. The current problem is the
result of a poorly planned price increase that darn near put AW out of
business since the customenrs largely voted with their feet and left. To
get AW back where it was requires AW to attract new customers and lots of
them who are willing to pay for the service....thats the bottom line. I dont
think enough people would become citizens at the old rate to off set the
money they make now - more next gram
Meaning that if citizen a pays 70 dollars a year and is halfway through the
year and they change back to 20 bucks the person has 35 dollars worth left
on the citizenship which extend him for a year and a half . That is lost
revenue. becuae he wont be paying anohter 70 bucks at the end of the year.
So for every paying cutomer you have now you need 3 and a half customers at
then new level. I am not sure thee are that many tourist and new forlks
who would sign up to mee the requirment in the first month. A price
change now could result in a long dry period in revenue and AW cant survive
that. The need a source of income untill the revenue stream becoems
reestablished. Unfortunately to do it they would have to advertise and
there is no money for that either. They could seek new work (special
projects) but with 6 people now they cant handle additional work. They have
painted themselves into a financial corner.
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I agree completly with you about allowing tourists to travel, but there are
so many drawbacks as well. They cannot be tracked and they change their
names. They hack into things and delete builds - I have seen it!! Many
have no respect for world owners and stomp across places they have no
buisness being in. Some people LIKE having quiet, peaceful GZ's. Is better
than having to deal with foul mouthed punks that hack in and cannot be
ejected. The worlds shouldnt havre to pay extra to have tourists visit.
But the worlds that DONT want tourists should still have that option too.
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I agree... but unfortunately am not in a position to do anything abut it.
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And You Are Right. I Have Been Thinking Of This For Awhile Before. I Am
Willing To Make A Great Startup Donation. How Much Money Does "name
withheld" Need To Upgrade To 50 Tourist/Citizens? I Have Not Much, So I'll
Give You A 30. Under One Condition. I Have PS Rights For A Year. If She
Needs More Than That, Just Ask. I'm Sure We Can Work Something Out. Ask Her.
<|:-) Oh, And Thanks For Bringing This To Me. I Was Just Getting Mad At The
Limit, But I Wasn't Sure What To Do. Now I Do.
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Hi,

We left AW universe because we needed tourists for our worlds "3 world names
withheld", etc. We moved to DLP already by January 2002, after tourists have
been banned out of AW universe. Then AW locked up all their
client-universe... but i am sure you now that full story ...
Now, whatever AW Inc is going to do next, is not bothering me anymore.
Talking with JP or Rick did not find any solution, at least not for me. That
is why we started to develop our own 3D envirnment. I have talked about it
and even offered my hands as a programmer to them to help them out of their
disaster with Rick several times. These talks were friendly but their
results were nothing. I took my consequences out of it all.
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done ^_^ i sent an email
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