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Apr 24, 2003, 11:36pm

Tourists need to be able to enter all public AWI worlds.

Tourists need to be able to build (at least with 0) in all public AWI
worlds.

We need to have the ability to copy objects when we right click at the
object yard.

Apr 24, 2003, 11:37pm

Getting a little demanding, eh? :-P

[View Quote] Tourists need to be able to build (at least with 0) in all public AWI
worlds.

We need to have the ability to copy objects when we right click at the
object yard.

Apr 24, 2003, 11:43pm

If AWI were to meet all that what would the CommunitY offer in trade?:)

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Apr 24, 2003, 11:54pm

We've already started rolling in more dough! What more must be asked of us?!

-Dion

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Apr 24, 2003, 11:55pm

Helping tourists learn how to build. Making an effort to place them at
coordinates that are reasonably protected from vandalism. Helping at the
gate. : )

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Apr 25, 2003, 12:32am

no you aren't, $70 a year isn't all that much, when there's only a thousand
or two users at most, some with worlds, most small or trial, and at only
once a year, meanwhile, you're complaining the prices are too high, and half
the users are leaving instead of even renewing("you" and "you're" directed
towards the whole of the universe).

maki
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Apr 25, 2003, 2:52am

You're right. $70 isn't that much. But I feel that updates should be far
more often for the amount that is being payed. I'd also like to see some
better Public Relations!

-Dion

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Apr 25, 2003, 4:05am

[View Quote] At the end of the day, It's dead, the growth of the AW Community has
stagnated. I will agree that 70 US isn't that much if AW is one of your main
activity that you do in your free time. But these days, the population
count is just far too low during my time zone for me to even bother with AW
on that scale. I'm now just logging on every few weeks for a few minutes to
quickly check telegrams. Every time I attempt to build, I lose interest
very quickly realizing that I'm going to be alone.

It seems that many people aren't prepared to pay the price for a citizenship
now, particularly those outside the US. The dismal 100-130 population
during
my time zone really doesn't help my interest AW. Anyway, I've realized that
there isn't much you can really do about the situation, so I'm just going to
let AW and Multi-user 3D take it's course. If things don't improve by
September 2003, I'll just let my citizenship expire for the time being, go
into hibernation, and return when the population count returns to an
acceptable level. Failing that, just drop everything and revisit multi-user
3D again in a few years time, hopefully by then the technology would have
matured a bit and will appeal to a wider audience.

People have protested to AWI , tried this and that and it hasn't achieved a
lot

Apr 25, 2003, 9:16am

in 3.4 there is an option to disable/enable tourist building , whta i fthey
let theml back in at least , but not let them build ? so tourists ( like a
friend of you that doesnt have a cit ) , can come inot AW and check your
build , or just chat at aw gz , and if they wanna build , thay have to
register , it cna only make tourists like AW more if they see more .

Apr 25, 2003, 9:25am

In my world, AAWR (shameless plug =P ) I try to do that and protect tourists
builds. At first when the word got out that I was protecting tourists builds
my world began to be attacked. It wasn't from tourists, it was from cits who
didn't like the fact that I was protecting tourists builds. One of them told
me that was the reason. Now I haven't been attacked since, maybe I got them
all in my ejections or maybe they gave up when they saw that they were not
doing any damage.

I think there are those out there in the AW community who are opposed to
helping tourists, and that's just sad because it makes everyone else in AW
look bad. It only takes one person to ruin it for the rest of us.


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Apr 25, 2003, 12:20pm

Sorry to hear you had to deal with that at one time:(
Sometimes I wonder if harrassment of tourists is the same mentality of
college initiatons....:)

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Apr 25, 2003, 3:06pm

Yes why not. Let em all build in AWGate!! meh :P

- Mark

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Apr 26, 2003, 12:00am

Eh. No. I just got finished deleting some 10,000 tourist objects (Mostly
bright colored pp16's with pokemon pictures) nestled around my N/W axis
build area. I don't wanna do that again. Entering I have no problem with,
but letting them build in AWI worlds just ends up dissapointing them when I
come along and bulldoze it because it either A) Gets in my way, B) Is
obscene or C) Makes my monitor go batty because of all the bright colors (I
really need to replace this thing).

And yes, right click copy/paste needs to be reenabled.

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Apr 26, 2003, 7:36am

Well it seems that someone who read my post wanted to have some fun. the
entered my world and decided to put up pornographic pictures and they did it
all around tourists builds. lol no problem. I saw it before any one else
entered my world. it took me a few clicks and about 5 minutes to clean up.
its sort of sad when they also resort to entering into a conversation in MSN
messenger with me when I wasn't even home. the conversation consisted of
many swear words repeated over and over agian.

Message to the ppl who make thems feel good by trying (notice i said trying.
not succeeding.) to put others down: It only shows us how emotionaly messed
up you realy are. If you need to put others down to make youself feel good
then you need therapy. Oh and one more thing. If you want to do damage don't
try it in a world where there are several bots that log IPs and notify me
when ppl are putting up pictures.

Apr 26, 2003, 12:14pm

World logs can give you the IP address of someone coming in posting
pornography. There should be a way to fix up something to get rid of it
without a human appointed Pornography Scout running around to Zero builds
looking at the url's.

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Apr 27, 2003, 2:54am

Although it only took you 5 minutes to scout around... a tip for bigger
worlds...

You can do an xelagot survey and then filter by (recent) time and/or builder
number (0 for tourists) and by "picture" action command. That makes it
pretty easy to find infringing objects, and even have the bot delete them
for you to save hurting your own eyes..

Regards, Justin


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Apr 27, 2003, 9:27am

Actually it only took me five minutes because I was using bots. Tracker by
Taco is the bot that alerted me to the attack and showed me where the
pictures were added and what the url was. Then I used the Active worlds
utility to find all the objects with that url and delete them. I also have
an xelagot in my world 24/7 to keep logs because my world is hosted by AW
and the xelagot in combination with Tracker give me all the info I need
(IPs, citnames, citnumbers, bla bla bla yadda yadda yadda. I only wish it
would also give me the comp ID so I wouldnt have to enter the person into my
bots eject on sight list and wait for them to return). I also use the
xelagot to make regular backups of the world so if any tourist builds are
deleted I can just load up the propdump with the bot, zero in on the damaged
build and restore it.


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Apr 28, 2003, 4:27pm

uh... I think a coup implies the losing side gets nothing but a noose...

E (thinks this can't be good)


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Apr 29, 2003, 7:23pm

Or a meathook if you're Italian *glinting blues*

:)


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Apr 29, 2003, 7:44pm

Old fashioned. In the modern world you just get to look at the business end
of a Romanian AK-47, and possibly get exiled to the United States.

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Apr 30, 2003, 1:09am

Nice to see ya Lu. : )

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Apr 30, 2003, 1:10am

Tourists need to be able to enter public AWI worlds. When will that happen?

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Apr 30, 2003, 1:25pm

ok, lets just try to explain this.
you own a house? now say someone wanted you to let the homeless sleep there,
would you agree? definatly not, and you have the right not to, because YOU
own the house, no one else.
same here, AW own the world, they dont want anyone into thier worlds, and no
one else has the right to tell them (try to force them) into it! you know
that it costs them quite some for the tourists to be there, building for
free right? if someone wants to build, they should get themselfs a cit and
knock themselfs out....

-SWE

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Apr 30, 2003, 1:56pm

we are customers , and what about the 3.4 feature to enable/disable tourist
builds , let them at least in to chat or view builds

Apr 30, 2003, 3:28pm

Well, we are still on Beta, and I don't think they will upgrade Alphaworld
before they have a final version ( world servers as well )

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