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Apr 29, 2004, 7:53pm

I have always found this PG this and that somehow amusing.
We seem to live in a sociaty where every little thing has to be classified
into something. While doing this one often miss the big picture.

One can hurt another person by using only the lowest rated words, and one
can praise the other by using only x-rated words.
A clothed person can do/ be as offensive one can be and a nude person can be
the most humble person.
Yet we resufe to look at the result, and rather stare at meaningless
details.

One person once said, the ratings are so we adults would not have to listen
to the kids cussing.

Drac
"rossyboy" <rossyboy at vwtv.org> kirjoitti viestiss
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> If AW is PG-13, then it would follow that ALL public building worlds
> should be made PG-13 and they have not been.
>
> So it's inconsistent. Unless there is an exception in the case of
> AlphaWorld (I can't see one) it should be rated the same as AWTeen,
> Yellow, COFMeta, Mars...
>
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Apr 29, 2004, 11:52pm

Yes I know,
I just think it is amusing that reality has been commercialised. Common
sense and uppbringing of children has been categorized.
I guess things like this only can happen in a time when the uppbringing of
children has been pushed away from the parents and is considered to be the
duty of school and society. It is so much more easy to blame the sociaty if
ones child grows up to be a crook, than blaming oneself or the child.

As we all know ( or atleast should) children develop in a different pace.
One cannot say that today you are 12 and cannot go to a place where someone
might say poop, but tomorrow is your birthday, then you are that much more
mature that you can understand the meaning of poop.


Drac

"xelag" <xelag at digitalspace.com> kirjoitti viestiss
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> Graf Dracul,
>
> these ratings set by AW are only due to commercial needs. Parents in
> USA and some other countries think they need this, so AW implements it
> to be able to sell and to comply to laws and expectations. It has
> little to do with reality, kids bypass all these adult expectations
> anyway :)
>
> Alex
>
> On 29 Apr 2004 17:53:22 -0400, "count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi>
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Apr 30, 2004, 10:03pm

"xelag" <xelag at digitalspace.com> kirjoitti viestiss
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[View Quote] I agree to a certian point, but not quite sure how I could tell myself that
a floating tab window covering up the chat and the window is a goodie.
It makes chatting hard and one cannot even walk straight. They could
atleast have made an option to have to the left as it was before. I guess
this is the only reason why I do not use 3.5

Drac

May 3, 2004, 7:26pm

"seiya" <starbuilds at yahoo.com> kirjoitti viestiss
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> Hello AW Community
>
> I was thinking of maybe opening up a small AW business that has to do with
> building, it is called Starby Solutions. And basically it is a building
> solution service.
>
> For example, lets say your working on a certain thing in your house and
need
> a certain design solution, or if you are building something and wish to
have
> someone aid you in developing it to be more advanced, you would gram
starby
> solutions.
>
> Just a thought I have, any comments? thanks~!
>
>

Yes I guess it could be handy for some people, however, I would maybe more
need someone to do the chatting for me so I could concentrate on building.
Especially handy would be someone who would answer grams.

Drac

May 5, 2004, 6:49pm

"legion" <jonsavel at juno.com> kirjoitti viestiss
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This must be kept clean. If you keep it up, I may
> complain to E N Z O and ask him to shut down this newsgroup. I can promise
> you that I will personally do that. I do not tolerate these flaming wars
in
> this newsgroup.

I doubt even you is so importnat that by saying you do not like a thing, it
will be removed.
Just a friendly hint. The world do not circulate around you, but you are a
part of it :)

Drac

May 5, 2004, 7:51pm

"legion" <jonsavel at juno.com> kirjoitti viestiss
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> Doesn't matter. Keep these private matters off the newsgroup. It's
private.
> We don't want to heard it. I don't care if you think the newsgroup is the
> place to do that. This is public newsgroup, not a place to take private
> matters to. I don't give a shit about these problems you have with Seiya.
> This is not a place to discuss your personal problem with someone else. I
> don't care about your personal problem with others. Now, though, I might
> soften and ask E N Z O personally to delete this thread. But next time you
> flame in another thread again, I can and will ask E N Z O to shut down the
> newsgroup. Anyway, I will ask you to end these flames. Plus, these flames
> are in direct violation of the Conduct Guidelines and the Code of Conduct
> for Newsgroup (I can't remember the correct or exact title but do know
that
> it strictly prohibits the flames). By the way, I'm sorry but I do read
every
> posts and I don't care if you advise me to ignore it, I WILL read every
> posts. I just don't have to put up with these flaming shits.
>
> --
> Legion
> flaming shits... 0_0
>
I do belive shutting down the newsgroups wouuld be against what they promise
when you buy a world or uni. It says NG support.

Do not get me wrong, I do not like flames, but I think one also need to
learn to ignore things that one do not like. One can not always run to mom
when a kid says a bad word.

Drac

May 5, 2004, 6:53pm

"seiya" <starbuilds at yahoo.com> kirjoitti viestiss
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> Hello guys, I was wondering what tye of future commands may come in AW
> regarding building? I think "create corona" was the last one, I want to
see
> some more!
>
> Any insight towards the future?
>
>

A few things I would wish for as a builder is.

Make it so that a sound would play in interwalls, for example create sound
crow.wav time=60, which would mean the sound plays, thensilent for 60
seconds , then play again.

I noticed if you make an offcenter model and put create light on it, the
light goes where the object appears ( which is good), but if you put sound
on it, the sounds stays at the origo. Would be nice if the sound would move
also when you put an offcenter object to rotate; that way for example a
helicopter would become louder when close.

Add more terrain textures, so one really could use the terrain feature in a
nice way.

One should be able to create move so that an object move from point a to
point b, then jump back to point a and start over. This way for example a
car would not have to drive forward and then reverse back ( kind of makes
traffic look non-realistic). Maybe even make a move command so that it would
go to several point, like 40 meter forward, then 20 meter left 40 meter
forward again. This in combination with a rotate would really nake possible
making nicely moving cars.( rotate as in the front of a car always pointing
forward)

Drac

May 5, 2004, 8:16pm

"ciena" <nikona at comcast.net> kirjoitti viestiss
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> cars dont have to drive backwards use the reset command
>

Ok, I obviusly need help with the commands LOL

May 6, 2004, 9:13pm

"andras" <andras at andras.net> kirjoitti viestiss
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[View Quote] I agree with Andras; children are not stupid and they understnad if things
are properly explianed. By making someting forbidden without explaining it
one just often make it more interesting.

I would also like to remeind that it is natural that at some point one becom
curious about the other sex. I recall as a child ( when no internet was
around) how we with the boys with big enthusiasm studied some old Playboy
that one had found somewhere. If someone happens to see a bit skin in some
picture , it will not kill anyone.

It seems the fear of children beeing abused in internet chats is almost
paranoid. Of course there are those who try to pretend they are younger etc,
but yet according to all investigations most abuse happens within family and
friends. What happens there is usually not a few naughty words by way more
sad actions. I still think it is safer to run into a weirdo on the net than
on the street (if one need to choose one).

All in all, I think there is one thing that one should make clear for ones
children. That is to NEVER go and meet anyone from the net, without a parent
going also. Also very important to not tell name and address on the net,
because these things could bring the child into real danger.

Drac

May 6, 2004, 9:16pm

"wizard myrddin" <admin at rdescape.co.uk> kirjoitti viestiss
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>
> I'm very sure Enzo would welcome an investigation to stop anything illegal
> going on. In the real world people that have access to any child for
> instance have to have a relevant police check beforehand, may not be
> foolproof but stops many at the 1st hurdle. How many members that have
> access to a child have had this check performed on them? non
>

Really? Do all parents / potential parents , uncles, big brothers, mothers
etc have to take a pedo test these days?

May 6, 2004, 9:28pm

"sweets" <stylecanin at hotmail.com> kirjoitti viestiss
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> also...in scientic study of the human brain, in its development which they
> have used teens for these studies, the last part of the human brain to
> actually develop and reach full strength is the part that controls though
> processing leading to decision making. This takes place in the average
brain
> at approximates 19 yrs old. After that age the human brain is fully formed
> and functional and no other growth takes place.....Decison making thought
> process....and you want them on computers? ....You think without a
properly
> formed brain for decisions that they can make a proper decision as to
right
> and wrong? sometimes yes, mostly no, that is what parents are for, to
guide
> and control until the brainis formed....sorry if not as romatic idea as
> children are little people, but in reality they are blank computers being
> programmed up to 19 yrs old....sorry folks ....
> Scientifically is a bad idea *grins
> sweets
>
>

Yet these brainless people are allowed to drive a car, own a gun, get
married, use alchohol, be soliders? But should not be allowed to use
internet before 20?
I do know people who are 50 and cannot make any decissions though

May 7, 2004, 10:45am

A lot of paranoia going on. People are so scared of everything these days
that they start to block and forbid everything they do not personally
understand. Someone has wrong skin colour and he is most likely a criminal,
someone has wrong religion and he is most likeley a terrorist, someone has
wrong sexual preference and he is most likely a molester. Yes get rid of
them all as pre-emptive actions; sit in your houses alone, scared of even
your own shadow; create your perfect world in where nobody can be trusted.
teach your children all people are out there to harm you.

So someone says he is a woman although beeing a man, does this make him a
molester? No, some people are simply born into the wrong body and might
suffer a lot from that. Some have operations to get it fixed and legally get
to become another sex. Are these people automatically molesters?
Have it ever accured to you, that people telling they are female although
they passport might say male, in fact for the first time in their life can
be the person they actually are on internet, because they do not have the
physical body as their burden?
This do not make anyone a molester. People should learn not to generalize so
much "all porn freaks are criminals - all criminals are porn freaks" compare
to " a crow is a black bird - all black birds are crows"

Drac

May 7, 2004, 4:06pm

I simply think you make internet a bigger boogieman that is it. So what if
we say to our children , you cannot use the PC someone might say bad things
to you, sorry you cannot watch TV you will get bad influance, sorry you
cannot go to school, you learn bad language there. No you cannot go out from
the house, somone might rape you.
I just think we cannot start keeping the childrens as prisoners, might be
they do not get physically hurt and not mental hurt by foreigners, but it
will sure make them unstable unsure people who will grow up even more
paranoid as their parents.

I do not know why adult people seem to forget their own childhood as soon
as they grow up. Part of growing up is stealing tobacco and smoke it with
the friends behind the corner, to get ones first beer and feel oh so mature,
to read a dirty magazine and be amazed. This natural curiousity will not go
away even if parents hide their head like an oestrich in the ground.

It seems you do not want to give any credit to children, you think they can
be talked into anything. Much better would be to be able to speak openly
about the dangers that are out there than try to hide the children and
pretend the world is nice place and nothing will bad will happen as long as
one pretend it is not there.

Drac
"sweets" <stylecanin at hotmail.com> kirjoitti viestiss
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> sorry but yes banning is unfortunate but necessary. As I said I have
nothing
> against kids but in fact I have seen young girls giving pics, email addys
> etc out loud at the Gate. Yes they are warned, but how many do not say it
> out loud, how many are conned into giving a pic or addy because they seem
> to 'trust' this friend. How many give away little clues like the name of
the
> store down the street, not realizing the danger or even seeing the risk.
> Fact is there are perverts out there, people wanting to hurt the children.
> What I was saying is ...is it worth the risk ....The bad guys now all have
> good equipment, good tracers, excellent programs. Its like sending your
kid
> to the park at night alone. Would you?
> Also can kids be trusted. LOL no...recently at the gate I over heard a
> conversation between a well know 15 yr old citizen and a 14 yr old tourist
> newbie. Well seems the tourist was having trouble finding a pic, kept
> hitting ratings blocks although was not a 'adult' thing he was looking
for.
> Well the 15 yr old cit passed this other a certain program that could
crack
> the ratings password. The words of the 14 year old were 'wow it works, if
my
> parents knew I had this I would be dead.'....I came out of lurk and went
at
> the 15 yr old cit. Told him off for going against a parent's will by
passing
> an illegal program. He ended up getting very angry with me, said he was
just
> trying to help and I had no right to tell him what to do. Yeah ok not GK
but
> was concerned. The 14 yr old said he was not sure he should use it that I
> may be right. This was all out loud at the Gate, which at the time was
> unsupervised (no GK on duty).
> problem is there are dangers. and kids are now smarter than us LOL. so yes
I
> say unplug that computer and keep them safe. It is unfortunate because it
> could be a great learning tool if used right, but right now is comparable
to
> a park at night (no matter the timezone) or sending your kid out to play
> baseball on a 6 lane highway in rush hour....
> Sure we want the world to protect our kids. But it starts at home.
> sweets
>
>

May 9, 2004, 9:49pm

>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> I have no trouble understanding the English language.
>
> Sharon
>
>
Great :)

Drac

May 10, 2004, 10:35am

"sweets" <stylecanin at hotmail.com> kirjoitti viestiss
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> btw my chair has no arms.....but this was not psychology....it was
> connecting periodically the brains of teens to computers....testing and
> watching cellular growth....comparing notes...taking cell samples....years
> of years of study that gives us this new brain information......same
> subjects were used from 12 yrs old to the age of 20....this is not
> psychology, this is fact of scientific cell formation.....they know how
much
> we grow as a fetus ....and now they know how much we grow up to 20 yrs old
> and which parts of the brain develop at which age, according to computer
> data and electrodes....LOL should watch the medical and science channels
on
> tv instead of being on internet *grins...
> sweets
>
>

Much possible brain develops until 20, nevertheless, one cannot talk to a
5-6 years old person in the same matter as a 15-16 years old.
I do not how you expect someone on his 20th birthday to suddenly be fully
adult and know all if he has not been given a chance to learn while growing
up.
There is no adult/ mature switch in the brain that suddenly get activated on
20th birthday.

Sure we shall protect our children, but as they gain more age a bit more and
more responsibilty should be given them. You cannot tell a 19 years old he
cannot use the internet, seriously..
Parents should be the safe harbour also the authority to set the outer
limits, but at some age it is normal and good that children wants to test
their "wings", they sometimes succeed sometimes fail, and hopefully learn
from their mistakes.

D

May 6, 2004, 9:25pm

"linn" <ironhead at digitalpassage.com> kirjoitti viestiss
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> where were you when we all tried to rid AW of a known porn freak?? sure
> could have used a lil support then alas nothing was done not to
blame
> anyone but there were a lot of ppl who sent proof from newspapers to AW
and
> still nothing was done sigh where does that leave us? and I see the
> GOR worlds are still in AW and bout the only thing that's growing in
> number????
>
>

*sigh*
Gor worlds are adult worlds. They do not try to cover up the potential
exposure of sex. If you choose to go there you know what to expect, right?
The welcome message often tells about it beeing an adult world, so does many
signs.

Those who try to abuse children do not hang around in worlds like that, but
much more likely where you would not expect them, in worlds with possible
low ratings.

What is wrong with beeing a pornfreak, as long as you do not do anything
illegal? hate to break this to you, but without sexuality there would not be
any human beeings on the earth, not even you. If you have tried to get rid
of someone who has commited something illegal, that is different, but trying
to get rid of a porn freak sounds racistic; what next jews and negros?(
maybe you could try to be a bit more specific in your accusitions?).

Drac

May 7, 2004, 10:47am

Personally I think there should be a republican/ narrowminded uni so other
people would not have to listen to this crap all the time.

Drac
"c p" <chris101d at comcast.net> kirjoitti viestiss
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> I think that there should be a gor universe. awi should separate the two,
I
> don't think its fair to us, to be subjected to it, I know some world
owners
> of gor worlds are very nice, and some are legit building worlds where
people
> talk about adult topics, but there should be an Adult uni. just to keep it
> off the main servers. its sad when at nighttime you look at the worlds
list
> aw on top awteen near the bottom and in-between 50 gor worlds.
>
> I mean they should all team up together and buy a uni if awi wont provide
> one...
>
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May 7, 2004, 10:50am

Yes! Get rid of all religious themed worlds, I find them extremely
offensive. Not long ago I was preached at about Jesus in my own world. At
least nobody has yet tried to come to my world and turn me into a gorean.
Religions is what prevent people from thinking and having own opinions, it
is the worst enemy to logic.

Drac
"mastergrey" <webmaster at greylight.com> kirjoitti viestiss
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>
two,
> I
> owners
> people
it
> list
>
>
> /* engage extreme sarcasm */
> And should we be getting rid of the Christians too? Why should we be
> subjected to them staying off on their own? I mean really, there are a
few
> nice ones who own very preaty worlds, but I don't want to have to ever be
> next to one! They might even be popular! And what about those stupid
> Americans? They should just go buy a universe of their own if AWI won't
> banish them off to their own corner. It's so sad when you look at the
world
> list at night and most of the top worlds are owned by white people...
> /* disengage extreme sarcasm */
>
provide
>
> As the ones interested in segration, perhaps those who don't want to see
> anything beyond a PG level should found their own universe? That way they
> would have absolute control over their own worlds, and can harden their
> walls against anything not like themselves.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

May 7, 2004, 4:07pm

same goes for you, heh?
You have to go into adult worlds?

"linn" <ironhead at digitalpassage.com> kirjoitti viestiss
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> you don't have to listen to this just learn where to click eh?
>
>
>
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May 7, 2004, 7:56pm

I was not refering to what is said here, but to the fact that she seems to
dislike adult worlds and would prefer them banned.

".sharon" <none> kirjoitti viestiss
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> She isn't going into adult worlds she's got a thread and is posting in the
> Community section of the Newsgroups eh? So, in other words, you don't
like
> what you're reading then you may *click* off. There are many of us
> interested in this "community" based topic which is so long overdue in
need
> of discussion. Aye?
>
>
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May 7, 2004, 8:41pm

Sure, everyone should have an opinion.

I do not say we shall not protect the children, I just say that
OVER-protecting can be harmfull also.
I particulary remember one who we called the wimp in school. I run into him
a few years ago and he was heavily alcholized. I am not sure if this was
what his parents wanted with the very strict upbringing ?
I also know quite a few others who had very protective parents, the kids
were never allowed to do anything. At some point the reality shock was to
big when they had to face the "real" world, so they could not handle it.
These nice children who never went anywhere are now those sitting in pubs
all day long, those getting into fight in streets etc. I do not say all
become like this, but seems quite many did, when again those kids who were
concidered wild and badly brought up, settled down and have families and
good jobs ( of course not all ). I could give several examples of this also
from my own life. I do not say that the fact I know a few cases has any
scientific base, but it do not seem so important here anyway ;-

I guess I am just trying to say, that common sense do not hurt, a golden
middle way. Extreme this or that is just harmfull.

".sharon" <none> kirjoitti viestiss
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> Seems to me we all have a right to freedom of speech wouldn't ya say Drac?
> You sure do you share of it as you seem to go on about how kids shouldn't
be
> protected because sooner or later it comes down to fate. That they need
to
> fend for themselves. You seem to imply the world is full of gloom and
doom
> anyways so rather than attempt to clean it up we ought to leave it a mess
> and not trouble ourselves with thinking of solutions. Pardon me, but I'm
> not giving in and I'm not giving up just because it's easier.
>
> Sharon
>
>
>
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May 10, 2004, 8:52am

"zeofatex" <greg at warpedsoap.com> kirjoitti viestiss
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> Agreed. Gor worlds should be private ONLY. A new world rating should be
> added 'NC' which requires verification of age. R is unacceptable for
worlds
> like those. R is considered only 'some' adult material and 'some' language
> whereas Gor worlds are 'mostly' adult material as opposed to 'some'.
>
>
> Just my $69.95 worth.
>
You do not seem to know what gor is? I am not gorean, neither will I ever
be.
I have quite often visited gorean worlds though, because they are buildwise
often interesting.
Not even once during my visits has anyone tried to inforce something sexual
on me. There might have been some artistic paintings with slight nudity;
similar to what we had in our schoolbooks teling us about the bible ( you
know that half naked guy hanging on a cross etc).

Usually people there speak to eachother there without cussing compare what
you hear on MTV ( extensive use of bitch, nigger, fuck and so). I would
belive that most sexuality is happening privatly between the persons who it
concernes again compare to MTV ( and similar) who gives a twisted idea about
ideals to the teens and even pre-teens. When have you last for example seem
a dressed female singer or a male singer who would not have nudish women
dancing around him ? ( not to mention the attitude they teach- man is
superior , shall treat women without respect and women are bitches). Would
the people perform there be even "normal" sized but no, skinny girls with
big breast. Why do you think anorexia nd bulimia is a problem of the western
world?

I just wish once people would see the real problems instead of attacking
randomly so called easy targets. I see the popular culture industry to be
one of those most affecting the behaviour and attitudes of the children
today; and I certainly do not like what they teach.

Drac

May 10, 2004, 11:57pm

".sharon" <none> kirjoitti viestiss
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> http://www.courttv.com/trials/robinson/
>
> You wonder why anyone might worry?
>
>
I agree, nothing to laugh about, but as I read that one can easily see he
was a killer before comming online.
One victim was for example found through a local newspaper; should we not
read them either to be safe?

D

May 11, 2004, 12:32am

Not arguing. Well one CAN reply a newspaper ad as well as a telegram for
example.
And the fact is that he killed them when he met them. If the mean to trick
them to him is internet or newpaper (snail mail) the result was the same,
was it not ?

The point is that first he had to get their trust, could have happen in the
local pub, library or anywhere as well. Internet was just one way.

D
"linn" <ironhead at digitalpassage.com> kirjoitti viestiss
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> there is interaction here NOT in a paper sigh you are arguing for the
> sake of arguing now you big silly
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May 13, 2004, 9:18pm

Of course one think on the safety of the children, this case just do not
proove it dangerous for the children to be online but the mothers of
children.

In this cases it was the mothers who got tricked by the murderer and the
mothers who took their children to him, not the other way.
Using this case as a base, I cannot then draw any other conclusion that
mothers with underage children must have their accounts suspened in the name
of the safery of their children.

Then again if this Seiya person has done something illegal towards the
children, that is a totally different story

D
"bro" <bro at geneband.net> kirjoitti viestiss
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> Think of the children and their right to be treated with honesty.
> Sexual advances made by Seiya be it he or she can not be condoned by
> the Community or AWI.
>
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May 24, 2004, 9:22pm

Hmm, Look at your keyboard for something saying "Caps Lock" and press it
once .


"rossyboy" <rossyboy at vwtv.org> kirjoitti viestiss
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> OK I DONT CARE IF SHE TURNS OUT TO REALY BE MARK EMERSON IF SHE DOES I
> WILL <3 MARK EMERSON INSTEAD COS MANDY IS A GRATE PERSON!!!!1111
>
<snipped rest of the crap>

D

May 24, 2004, 9:33pm

Yes I agree, one should mostly concentrate on blaiming the frigging
republicans, and the village idiot leading the country. It must be very hard
to live in USA at the moment if one is capable thinking of one own. I really
feel sorry for all those great true american who has to suffer because of
what the last goverments during 40 years has done to the country and now
finally this disaster with the worst ever president.

D
"ciena" <nikona at comcast.net> kirjoitti viestiss
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> xelag, the american people are appalled at what happened in that prison.
and
> u can bet they will be punished. and whoever ordered that behavior will be
> punished. and it makes me sick to my stomach to see those photos and to
know
> what those few service men and women did. But please dont judge the whole
> country for those horrific deeds. I, and i'm sure most of us are
imbarrassed
> and ashamed what our service men and women did there.
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May 25, 2004, 7:13am

Bush himself claims to be the president of the "free world" I live in a
fairly free part of the world; yet I was not asked if I wanted him to be to
be the police/ president of the entire world. I atleast can criticize his
actions when he comes out of his own country, what he does to the american I
will mostly leave up to you.
I am not only talking about Iraq; although it has been one of the worst.
First Iran was the worst enemy, so USA put Saddam in charge, then Saddam
suddenly did not want to be the puppetter anymore and he suddenly become
"ohh so dangerous" to the rest of the world. If a civilized country would
have felt threatened by an other country, one usually take it up in UN, a
uncivilazed bully do not do so, but decide to attack on its own, even againt
the will of UN.
It started with the cold war in the fifties, Cuba, Viatnam, Afganistan,
small countries in south america etc.
I do not understand how usually underdeveloped countried far away are such
thretas; USA never attacked Sovjet for example, because they might have hit
back?. It is so much more easy to go to a country who do not have much more
weapons than stones ( and yet get ones ass kicked).

´Do not say I blame all people in USA, only those morons who do not see how
much evile the goverment there has caused. Probably about 50% of all wars
after WW II USA has somehow been involved in or started.

I did not say anything about that minor incident in Iraq, when prisoners
were abused (, nor did I mention Guantamo). The entire invasion was so
perverted itself so those minor things really do not count much.

Go hide your head in a bush now and refuse to see what is going on in the
world.

D


"lioness." <nobody at nowhere.net> kirjoitti viestiss
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> I know I really SHOULDN'T reply to this but I feel an overwhelming need to
> anyway. WTF are you thinking???? Or do I even want to know? Do you REALLY
> believe President Bush or anyone in political office here condones the
> actions of those morons over in Iraq??? What kind of an idiot are you to
> assume every one of the representatives of my country are to blame for
> everything that you despise about the USA? I know the president here isn't
> perfect. Nobody is. Heck, I'm sure you wouldn't do much better either.
(You
> probably wouldn't with all the bigotted hatred you are oozing with). Bush
> isn't the worst President we've ever had. He is mediocre, considering what
> he has to deal with in today's society. True he isn't as great or as
> respected as Lincoln, but then again, even Lincoln had his enemies. Years
> from now when a truly worse President comes along we will look back and
> remember that Bush wasn't so bad. He just makes choices that HE believes
in
> and thinks we all should believe in. So I guess in your own opinion (even
> though you are NOT a taxpaying citizen in the USA, nor legally allowed to
> vote) Bush and the rest of the Republicans, whether they are upstanding
> politicians or not, should be dipped in hot boiling acid and burned at the
> stake. Just to save the rest of the world. Nevermind..... on second
> thought.... I don't wanna know wtf you're thinking. I'll just chalk it up
> to another one of your silly rantings and assume your soapbox will rot
very
> quickly. ;-"D
>
>
>
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May 27, 2004, 9:15am

Rasial slur ?

D

"linn" <ironhead at digitalpassage.com> kirjoitti viestiss
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> xelag's rasial slur in cy threads thanks
>
>

May 29, 2004, 3:21am

What frigging racial slurs are you talking about ?

D

"linn" <ironhead at digitalpassage.com> kirjoitti viestiss
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> and what do you mean by end of discussion lol if you have he right name
you
> can even make racial slurs and AW doesn't care...right xelag!!?
>
>
>
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