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Oct 5, 2001, 3:32pm

how can you be such a "putz" if I may say so? you know you allways rant
about this feature... lets take the text I'm reffering to, item 6 in the
General section of The Really Holy List (actually, your improvement
list...):

"plug-in support: So third-party programmers can add things to AW that
AWCI's 2 programmers can't. The SDK (software developers kit) is a beginning
to this process, but only really applies to bots which aren't integrated
into AW itself like they should be."

this is what was meant as the wish off this thread, not talking about "Lauch
the ActiveWorlds plugin now" crap on the new AWC website... anyway, you were
a putz not to see that the original thread/replies were posted way before
the new website was released...

KAH

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Oct 6, 2001, 7:51am

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what *IS*
wrong with you lately??? WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT WEBPAGE PLUGINS!!! (at
first I thought they meant an SDK or something, but they didn't, so now it's
you that's talking about web plugins) we're talking about plugins you could
use with the **AW** browser, similar to bots, just integrated into the
browser, like you allways go on about! what part of that is it that you
don't understand?

KAH

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Oct 8, 2001, 4:21pm

thanx, what an honour to be in the FBE (Filtered By Eep) club! I wonder if
I'm not actually in the FBET (FBE Twice) club ;-))

KAH

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Sep 13, 2001, 5:39pm

mine as well :-)) possible solution: making me the sole leader of the entire
world (I am joking!) ;-))

KAH
PS. would come in rather handy indeed, not nice having people crash planes
through buildings :-((((((((

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Sep 23, 2001, 11:47am

Eep is right, the texture mapping of the ground object has nothing to do
with cells... but there is a simple, quick way to visualize a cell, simply
press CTRL while selecting an object and all objects in the same cell will
be selected.

KAH

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Oct 1, 2001, 9:51am

perhaps a new status icon for the 3D homepages? that way we could see the
other worlds apart from the worlds that mostly just look nearly the same...

KAH

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Oct 6, 2001, 7:53am

you sure it's the browser? yesterday Windows was acting lame, the dialup
stuff kept freezing, I found a trick though, hold the cursor over the dialup
status icon on the taskbar, it forces it to execute stuff

KAH

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Oct 19, 2001, 3:09pm

suggestion #1 allready does exist... will redownload avatars.zip if the
filesize has changed (seems to work on a kilobyte basis, usually one avatar
isn't enough to make the size increase by a kilobyte or more). and sorry for
this tiny complaint, but there are no players in AW, just avatars ;-))
sorry, very good suggestion (it's implemented in the Xelagot bot, so it
certainly is possible)! some of them are on FeatureVote, so go vote!
http://www.activeworlds.com/FeatureVote/

KAH

Oct 24, 2001, 3:11pm

doesn't make AW a game...

KAH

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Oct 25, 2001, 1:24pm

it's NOT a game! let's take an example, the programming language C++. You
can develop games in C++, but you can also develop anything else (lets use
word processors as an example). With your point of view C++ is a game
development tool, which it is not. Or a word processor development tool,
which it is not. It's a development tool for any kind of solution, not only
one like you look at it. Same with AW, it's a design tool. You can design
games with it or you can design buildings.

KAH

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Oct 25, 2001, 5:44pm

in a very weird way in that case...

KAH

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Oct 22, 2001, 12:59pm

OK thing, but I wouldn't say it's worth cluttering the GUI that looks pretty
OK now with some button when you can do a copy'n'paste nearly just as
easily. And I do agree with Cozmo, you're the one that has to choose really,
it's not all too much of the contact's business if you have him on your list
or not. Sentacks, we are entitled to think that it isn't such a great idea,
and Lanezeri is entitled to disagree. Just look at his reply to Cozmo,
accepting that we have another opinion.

KAH

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Oct 27, 2001, 10:44pm

great idea! but it probably wouldn't be implemented any time soon, in the
meantime you can try transparent cylinders and stuff

KAH

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Oct 31, 2001, 3:59pm

he syas switching rendering engine would take a year at least, don't think
he'll spend a year or twoporting it to linux... the possibility would be a
way of porting the SDK to Unix and create a sort of pseudo-AW...

KAH

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Nov 1, 2001, 3:32pm

not far, really, I don't believe Roland when he says it would take as long
as a year to switch engine... they could simply do something which would
have a programming interface similar to RW's...

KAH

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Nov 2, 2001, 4:08pm

yes, the engine would probably take some time to write, Roland was saying 1
year to adapt AW to the new engine...

KAH

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Oct 30, 2001, 5:53pm

hmmmm... a 3D programmer I know does a great job of writing a multi-format
world builder (not for AW, more for games) has this idea of adding a feature
that would allow youtobuild the world you made in the efitor in AW,or
convert it toa propdump... his stuff is ten times better than AW's building
interface, and has more advanced possibilities...

KAH

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Nov 18, 2001, 5:57pm

why should the world server have it when no other server software has such a
thing? get your own computer and use all kinds of BIOS and Windows passwords
on everything (screensaver that comes on after a min, etc) if you can't get
your family not to shut down the server...

KAH

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Dec 18, 2001, 2:17pm

lol

KAH

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Nov 5, 2001, 3:56pm

impossible to prevent you from writing to it. no point in not being able to
either.

KAH

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Nov 5, 2001, 7:14pm

the way I understood it it he wanted to let it allow the "owner" of the log
edit it... you'd be able to fake such a log nearly as easily as the current
unencrypted log... if ppl can't resist editing their logs that's just silly,
logs are meant to log stuff just for reference, when for example phone
companies are asked to present their logs as evience during trials they
sometimes even say themselfes that the log isn't failsafe...

KAH

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Nov 8, 2001, 6:32pm

only folks with file-acces on your computer (or that would use a trojan or
something) would be able to change your chatlog... the problem is rather
that for example if a PK asks for a log you could edit the log as you make a
copy of the specific event's chat, the most secure thing is a world chat log
(in worlds owned by neutral ppl, but the PKs only operate in AWC worlds
anyway)

KAH

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Nov 21, 2001, 5:03pm

calm down, why don't you head over to a pro world hoster and pay some minor
fee for the hosting of your world if you really can't get your family not to
shut it down (seems weird to me, have you actually tryed to tell them you
pay for having the world?)... a few hosts are listed on
http://mauz.info/worldrunning.html (both free and commercial)

KAH

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Nov 18, 2001, 6:00pm

couldn't you just use a PHP script and shell a bot?

KAH
PS. Brandon, the VB SDK doesn't work with VBScript

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Nov 24, 2001, 3:44pm

some ppl have requested a PHP SDK, but that's not really necesary. I have
written an example of how you can make PHP interact with the SDK, in this
case a webform where the user puts in a chat string that a bot will say. you
can download it from http://home.no.net/kahbot/phps.zip. it consits of tree
files, the PHP script where the user submits a chat string and a VB project
(2 files) which contains the bot which the PHP script shells. I have only
tested this on Apache 1.3.22 with PHP 4.0.6.
Requirements:
Win32 webserver with PHP4 installed, PHP Safe Mode OFF. Disk access. VB
with AwSdkOcx4 registered.
Instructions:
Open PHPSayer.vbp in VB, change the cit# and PPW (and location settings if
you want to) then compile it as PHPSayer.exe
Open phpsayer.php in a text-editor and set the BotPath variable to the path
of PHPSayer.exe. example: if PHPSayer.exe is located in C:\AW\Bots\ then put
"C:\\AW\\Bots\\". Put the script in your webserver's document area
Ok, now you've set everything up, just remains to see if it works :-)) Open
the script in a webbrowser, go to the location where the bot is set to
appear, specify your nick and the desired chat string, click the "Say"
button and wait for the bot to appear :-))

KAH
PS. if anybody would like to translate the bot to C++ or Delphi, I'd
appreciate it a lot :-))

Nov 27, 2001, 4:54pm

good idea, I tryed adventuring myself into the world of C++ SDK programming
this weekend, but with the (free) Mingw compiler all I got was a "Illegal
operation" error when the program tryed to execute SDK commands. and that
was the SDK sample...

KAH

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Nov 27, 2001, 5:08pm

AW isn't all about chat... if you want fancy chat-icons go get ICQ or
something... AW has the best, 3D avatars, what do you need some ugly icons
for when you have that? ;-))

KAH

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Dec 6, 2001, 6:00pm

that's real cheap, but I guess it's only fair for just a 56k connection
(you're lucky, heard some horror tales of evil ISPs charging a fortune for
56k connections). from tommorow off, I will be running on a high-speed DSL
flatrate connection at the price of 750NOK (83.80USD) a month :-)) right now
I'm on an ISDN line, which goes by-the-min, which means horribly high
costs...

KAH

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Dec 10, 2001, 3:55pm

lol, ISDN

KAH

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Dec 3, 2001, 3:55pm

yes, and in 3.2 you'll be able to do it without the rotate command...

KAH

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