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Sep 20, 2002, 5:47pm

In answer to insanity's statment about us advertising world hosting while
using their path.
He is wrong, what he is talking about is this, there were signs posted at
A!!CT's GZ made under the CT's name using eminent domain. These signs made
by citizen carl. stated "If you donate to A!!CT world to help keep it
running we will offer to host your world as a thank you"
On the signs there was different donation amounts and what size world and
user limit the donation would offer a doner. Although I was not the creater
of these signs, InSaNiTy world hoster, could not get it through his head
that anyone with Eminent Domain can alter or change anothers objects, so he
blaimed me for making the signs.
The signs do not say the path in A!!CT was part of the bargain, because NO
PATH was mentioned, just an offer to host a world based on donation size and
world size.
I do not consider what Carl did as abusing Heartfall's services.
He uses AW.com to make a profit. He uses his telephone to make a profit, AW
does not stop him from using their excistance on the web from making money,
nor does his telephone company, by which his telephone number is not listed
as a business number, it's under his real name, not heartfall.
He complains about AW not having a toll free 800 phone number, neither does
Heartfall.
Finally, in no way is this being posted to spam my world, A!!CT had roughly
170 builds in it dating back to August 17th 2001, the public had a right to
know that what they built would soon be gone or severely altered.
MrBruce
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Sep 20, 2002, 9:33pm

[View Quote] Don't worry about him.... we all know what his angle is...
You don't have to write these long ass posts to justify yourself to us. He's
shown everyone what he's all about way too many times before.....

Someone who clearly violates copyright laws and rules of common decency and
ethics like him, isn't worth you bothering yourself over........

Sep 20, 2002, 10:41pm

Begin sarcasm.

Cosnidering the fact that this person's main nick is Insanity, it isn't surprising that he's a multiple personality schizophrenic.

"Filmkr, InSaNiTy & the rest of the Heartfall Family..."

Note the use of the word 'family'. Do you consider your colleagues *family*? These Heartfall folks are obviously far too close to be just workers on some company team. The fact of the matter is that they all live in the cranium of one disturbed individual.

This particular disorder has been renamed the "Activeworlds.com, Inc. business strategy disease".

End sarcasm.

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Sep 21, 2002, 2:24pm

10 Points for you!

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Sep 27, 2002, 10:23pm

blah, blah, blah,
maybe insanity isn't a saint but he doesnt deserve to be insulted,
personally I've had the best of experience with him, And judging from some
of the replies you guys in Mr. Happys Peter Pan Land need to get
spellchecker and a decent understanding of how to construct an argument, the
only thing you guys know is what Bruce tells you, if there is an argument
to be had it is better constructed from a neutral perspective with factual
information and not blind admiration. If you aren't children you sure are
acting like it by blindly posting nonsense. another thing I can tell you is
that there is more than one person at heartfall for sure, as i have delt
with some of them. Just one of the many inconsistancies in your information.
If Bruce jumped off a bridge would you follow? I hope not, even kids are
smart enough to know better.

Sep 27, 2002, 10:53pm

In that case, judging from your tenuous grasp of English grammar,
punctuation, and your apparent inability to organize your thoughts, (if
you can even call them that...) you should fit right in around here! :P

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--
Goober King
Welcoming you to the one big happy dysfunctional family that is the AW
NGs...
robrod at prism.net

Sep 28, 2002, 11:25am

Amen to that........
Btw, king adamant... There are MANY in AW who've had similar negative
experiences with him........
But I suppose just because you're in so love with the guy, judging by your
ardor... they're invalid.... Bet it'd be a whole different story if he
ripped YOU off

JB
"was WONDERING when the next batch of jerk-lovers would come out of the
woodwork"
Rally on mindless minions !


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Sep 28, 2002, 1:22pm

> But I suppose just because you're in so love with the guy, judging by
your
> ardor... they're invalid.... Bet it'd be a whole different story if he
> ripped YOU off

But that's the whole point to his posts...he was NOT ripped off! So you
become insulting in your lynch mob mentality because he has the nerve to say
so, using phrases like "heartsmell", "This wouldnt be your way of "getting
even", "But I suppose just because you're in so love with the guy, judging
by your ardor"........Why is he NOT allowed to share his opinions?? Look at
how many posts one single guy was allowed to make telling about his BAD
dealings with him. Is negativity the more acceptable form of communication
here?? If the guy is that bad, will some comments on the other side ruin you
fun? Those are the very dynamics of a lynch mob, by the time people are
whipped into a frenzy most people are just going along for the ride and
don't even know the victim and those who do know him in a different way are
slow to, or never, speak up for fear of being hung right along side him.

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Sep 28, 2002, 7:48pm

Well, I tell ya Carolann, it wasnt the fact that King Bluemax posted his
experiences. It's the way he did it.... he sits there and berates Mr.Bruce
for his postings (which, if you read, you'd notice I'd made, as well as
others have, comments alluding to the necessity of the long ass posts) yet
he goes ahead and does the exact same thing, beating up on Mr. Bruce,
insulting the guy and so on..... Now, I couldn't care less, as I don't know
ANY of the involved parties. It's when you slam someone here for doing
something, yet you're JUST as guilty of doing the exact same things, that
annoys me... Hypocracy isn't very becoming....

He very well could have exhibited some of the maturity he seems to show such
disdain for others lacking and just posted the fact that he has had good
experiences with heartfall and left it at that. Yet, he felt a need to
insult the guy in the same friggen post..... sheesh

Make no bones about it, I along with MANY others here do not like
Insanity..... He's ripped off friends of mine and I'll make no excuses for
my animosities. I as well as You, King Bluemax or anyone else has a right
to have their opinions and post the same here.... But, if you're going to
be a hypocrite, spare the rest of us your thoughts is my point..... nobody
takes someone serious who's full of it..... I'm sure you'd agree

And I seriously disagree with your "Lynch mob mentality" statement.......
The way I see it, if you screw people, you DESERVE to have it made a point
of...
Cant take the heat, get outta the kitchen.... Guess Insanity learned that
the hard way.......
I won't stand Idly by and see other unsuspecting people get taken....

JB


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Sep 29, 2002, 8:30pm

Johnny B, You are a disgusting lying gossip. You berate anyone who posts a
truth that does not go along with your hate crime mentality of seeing that your
lying gossip succeeds in hurting the honest business of Heartfall. You hurt the
hundreds of users of Heartfall with your lies. You hurt the many new users by
feeding them with lies and taking them away from one of the safest and most
honest service companies they could ever choose.

Before you fail to read further and post more lies to users... let me make
notice that "HOST" is not a hidden name whatsoever. "HOST" is a dormant
citizen account owned by Heartfall Productions. I use it simply because I have
allowed others to expire. So there is no confusion brought onto users by your
flames... Heartfall Productions is a company, owned by the citizen names
InSaNiTy, Filmkr and HOST. Heartfall's owner has the recognition of society in
real life as well as many awards in virtual reality. Filmkr has been a special
guest speaker of the CY Awards. InSaNiTy has been winner of several CY Awards as
well as Several AVVY Awards. No one at Heartfall will every lead you to believe
anything that is not factual. If you would like to read about Heartfall's owner
here are a few links. http://www.heartfall.com/eqrelief/
http://www.heartfall.com/govlet/govlet.html http://www.childscry.org There
is also a new fellowship being offered to myself as well now. Fellowships are
hardly given out at random. As for your attempts to mislead users by saying
InSaNiTy speaks in third person... I do not... Heartfall is a company comprised
of many artists. I do not take credit for their work. I am a part of a very
large artistic community of Film Makers and I give credit where credit is
deserved. Our purchasers realize the artists involved in their new creations.
So when I speak.. "We at Heartfall Productions" well it's simply that... "WE"
My partners, my associates, my engineers... They do not always wish to be named.
Many people just like to be creative. naming them may make them targets for
hateful people like yourself.

Please refrain from lying to the readers any further Johnny b.

You Johnny B, attack on a regular basis. You have 1. Never met the owner of
Heartfall. 2. You have never done business with Heartfall 3. You have nothing
but gossip ands hear sea as your basis. Please put your jealousies aside and
quit attacking good people.

Why not speak the truth? Heartfall Productions is owned by a man who has
offered considerable charity to the people of the real world and has been
honored by governors for generous work.

Why not mention how http://worldhosting.heartfall.com hosts hundreds of users
throughout many universes and galaxies? How Heartfall Productions services
their customers with 7 day per week support including phone support? AW does not
even offer that. AW places it out to volunteers to reply to support mail.
Heartfall answers every customer's mail with personal, detailed information, day
or night.

Why not mention how Heartfall is the company that began offering safe reliable
hosting 6 years ago and brought LOWER prices as a result so that everyone could
benefit from realistic pricing? At the time Heartfall began hosting, some people
were attempting to charge $600 per year to host a world. We entered the arena to
stop that gouging practice. We even offer more realistic and affordable prices
than AW for hosting. We are not the cheapest... We are the most, for a very
affordable, honest price.

Why don't you mention how hundreds of users benefit from 6 years of hard work
assembling a great objects path that leads to fantastic unique world builds?
After all... many of our users have builds that are nominated for CY AWards for
their work.

Why not mention how happy these users are? Why must you berate everyone that
posts here in a positive fashion? You have attacked PK's who host with us and
have posted positive comments. You berate anyone who does not fuel your lies...

The TRUTH is... you have been trying to flame for a year now. You make huge
comments about rip offs. NO ONE has ever been ripped off ever by us. You twist
your lies around based on a person who was ejected for 5 minutes time. Then you
took a new user and filled their head with so much BS, you talked them into
canceling what they had paid for. You call that being ripped off when in FACT,
YOU RIPPED THEM OFF? You ripped them off by feeding them full of lies and
having them loose one of the best things that happened to them. The fact is that
the same user is nominated for a CY based on the custom items like sculpted
ground, custom sky, custom avatars that they used to create their world, which
becomes worthy of being nominated!

Johnny B... the history here in the newsgroup shows how you attack any chance
you get. You feed lies... Be HONEST!!!!!... SHUT YOUR MOUTH unless you have
actually been a part of something and know an actual FACT. You are hurting
users that may believe your BS is real. You do that so they can get on your pc
and have you host them at home. Then they realize how screwed they are and it's
too late most times. SAD.

When you do something in real life and have society honor you, like they have me
in my life... please mention it. Until then... please keep your trash talk out
of here.

Facts are these ... Heartfall World Hosting is a very honest, very reliable,
very friendly company which hosts many of AW's Gate Keepers, PK's, and a great
number of world owners... many veterans of AW as well as many new, very happy
world owners. We also service a large number of educational institutions
throughout the world as well as providing services and products for government
grant projects. Although we try to help everyone we can... there sadly enough,
are times when we cannot satisfy everyone... We have had three unhappy people in
out 6 years of services here. We wish that were not so... but we simply can't
help those who have been hurt by the likes of gossips feeding them bs. We have
provided services to thousands of very happy users in that time... therefore we
feel that the honest facts prove that we are doing all we can to make people's
lives and enjoyment in VR more fun. That is why we are here.. so people can have
fun... *S*

Why is it that there is scum allowed to chime in with gossip here for the sole
purpose of hate crimes and attacks against users? Flagg said he would not allow
attacks to be made in here. Why has he ignored the mob of lies and hate Johnny b
leads? Does the newsgroup need to be wiped out by law? It is coming close
to that seeing how hate is allowed... hate crimes are illegal... harboring,
promoting, facilitating hate are therefore also very illegal. Since Johnny b is
speaking solely on gossip... the motive of his personal hate cannot be argued.

If anyone would like the truth... you are welcome to visit with myself, phone
our company offices, write us via U.S. Mail. We are always here to help...

Take care,

Peace, health & healing...

InSaNiTy, Filmkr and HOST
of
Heartfall World Hosting Services
InSaNiTy's Avatars Creations
Heartfall Productions
www.heartfall.com



[View Quote] > Well, I tell ya Carolann, it wasnt the fact that King Bluemax posted his
> experiences. It's the way he did it.... he sits there and berates Mr.Bruce
> for his postings (which, if you read, you'd notice I'd made, as well as
> others have, comments alluding to the necessity of the long ass posts) yet
> he goes ahead and does the exact same thing, beating up on Mr. Bruce,
> insulting the guy and so on..... Now, I couldn't care less, as I don't know
> ANY of the involved parties. It's when you slam someone here for doing
> something, yet you're JUST as guilty of doing the exact same things, that
> annoys me... Hypocracy isn't very becoming....
>
> He very well could have exhibited some of the maturity he seems to show such
> disdain for others lacking and just posted the fact that he has had good
> experiences with heartfall and left it at that. Yet, he felt a need to
> insult the guy in the same friggen post..... sheesh
>
> Make no bones about it, I along with MANY others here do not like
> Insanity..... He's ripped off friends of mine and I'll make no excuses for
> my animosities. I as well as You, King Bluemax or anyone else has a right
> to have their opinions and post the same here.... But, if you're going to
> be a hypocrite, spare the rest of us your thoughts is my point..... nobody
> takes someone serious who's full of it..... I'm sure you'd agree
>
> And I seriously disagree with your "Lynch mob mentality" statement.......
> The way I see it, if you screw people, you DESERVE to have it made a point
> of...
> Cant take the heat, get outta the kitchen.... Guess Insanity learned that
> the hard way.......
> I won't stand Idly by and see other unsuspecting people get taken....
>
> JB
>
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Sep 29, 2002, 8:57pm

I didn't bother to read most of your message since I've read it before...

Replies inline.

[View Quote] What are you talking about? There have been no "hate crime" in this newsgroup at all. You obviously don't know the definition of that term.

> Does the newsgroup need to be wiped out by law?

Since it is private property and there have been no laws broken, the United States court system has no authority over this newsgroup whatsoever.


> It is coming close to that seeing how hate is allowed...

No one has posted anything close to "hateful". Stop overreacting.

> hate crimes are illegal...

Real ones.

> harboring, promoting, facilitating hate are therefore also very illegal.

No. People are free to hate anyone they wish and nothing can be done about that. If they act upon it in specific ways, then there *may* be a law against that.


> Since Johnny b is speaking solely on gossip... the motive of his personal hate cannot be argued.

Even if he was speaking "on gossip" and he did actually hate you, there is nothing you can do about it because it's not like he bombed your house or something.


Stop overreacting when people say they don't trust you as a host. They are as free to post things like that as you are to post self-serving crap spamming your questionable hosting "services".


-Agent1

Sep 29, 2002, 10:26pm

Now that you have sucked my bandwidth dry.. I feel a need to say something..
you are a true snot for saying this of Johhny. I tell you this pal.. I
have had a personal run in with you over the ways you gain your stuff, and
have heard from numerous people how you did them dirty in your "business"
dealings.. and those people were not JohnnyB.. seems to me you have decided
to dump on one person over stuff you have done to many. The way you have
wrote about him in here you deserve a hard "thwack" over the head. The
Johnny I know is honest, giving and very helpful and not for money either!
Not at all as you say. I find it hard to believe he should be blamed for
how you have treated so many of your customers. "host" <nospam at privacy.com>
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Sep 29, 2002, 10:57pm

*Yawn* Tell it to the people you duped....
I really don't care about all your phoney baloney self-aggrandizment, I hear
the truth from many....

I find it quite interesting that this "charity" or whatever you got goin on
over there doesn't seem to be registered as a non-profit charity anywhere
with a valid tax ID number.... and that heartfall is owned by this
"childscry organization"
http://www.netsol.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois?STRING=heartfall.com&SearchType=do
&STRING2.x=32&STRING2.y=10 (if you WANNA start posting links)

What's that ?? honest ? Hmmmm ......

Smells of tax fraud to me..... abusing the privilege of a non-profit
organization for personal gains ? Hmmmm.... quite unethical, to say the
least...

What's that ?? honest ? Hmmmmm.... what's THIS then, hypocrite ??
http://www.heartfall.com/aw/avatars/

Take a look at the bottom of your page there Pal....... "Starwars avatars"
Hmmmmm...

Can you say "Copyright Infringement" boys and girls..... Umm, Lars......
ever hear of Lucasfilms Ltd. ??
Well, lemme refresh your feeble memory..... "George Lucas", Heard of him ??
Well, see, he OWNS the starwars films and all the rights, trademarks,
copyrights, etc.

http://www.starwars.com/site/copyright.html

STAR WARS®, STARWARS.COM®, THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK®, RETURN OF THE JEDI®,
STAR WARS: EPISODE I-THE PHANTOM MENACE®, STAR WARS: EPISODE II-ATTACK OF
THE CLONES®, HOLONET NEWS and all logos, characters, artwork, stories,
information, names, and other elements associated thereto are the sole and
exclusive property of Lucasfilm Ltd. Any use of any of the materials on this
site other than for private, non-commercial viewing purposes is strictly
prohibited. The sale, auction, lease, loan, gift, trade or barter, or use of
any of the text, graphics, photographs, audio and/or video material or
stills from audiovisual material or any other materials contained herein,
for any other purpose, in any form, media or technology now known or
hereafter developed, including the use of any of the aforementioned
materials on any other Web site or networked computer environment, without a
prior written consent from Lucasfilm, is expressly prohibited. The creation
of derivative works based on the materials contained herein including, but
not limited to, products, services, fonts, icons, link buttons, wallpaper,
desktop themes, on-line postcards and greeting cards and unlicensed
merchandise (whether sold, bartered or given away) is expressly prohibited.
You may download one copy of the materials on any single computer for your
personal, non-commercial home use only, provided you keep intact all
copyright and other proprietary notices. Modification of the materials or
use of the materials for any other purpose is a violation of Lucasfilm's
copyright and other proprietary rights.


That means YOU are breaking the law genius..... and since you CLAIM to know
so much about the law, I find it interesting that you still have the balls
(pardon my french) to sell those avatars and come in here spouting off about
how honest and righteous you are, KNOWING full well that you're breaking the
law.

You truly a piece of work Lars...... And STILL writing about yourself in
the third person...... sheesh........
( Excerpt: As for your attempts to mislead users by saying InSaNiTy speaks
in third person... I do not... )
What's this then ? *rolls eyes*
Will you ever learn.......



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Sep 29, 2002, 11:21pm

why should anyone bother to read that ? LOL

Sep 29, 2002, 11:42pm

excuse me, you little weasel. you ripped me off. you defrauded me out of
$160. i paid you $160 for 5 avatars, and you never even attempted to
deliver them, and you have never refunded one penny of my money. 4 of those
avatars, which i paid you $125 for, turned out to be freebies. 4 of the
fairies made by Shankahtus, which you claimed you had made yourself.

johnny b had absolutely nothing to do with me cancelling my services with
you. i never met him or so much as knew his name until AFTER i cancelled my
services with you. i cancelled my world and object path hosting, as you
very well know, and the people who were there know, because you ejected a
dear friend of mine from my own world for no reason and without my knowledge
or consent, then proceeded to delete objects, and launched into a series of
abusive attacks by gram and by email. i cancelled your services although i
stood to lose the hundreds of dollars i had paid you in advance for world
and op hosting, because of your unethical business dealings, and your
obvious personality disorder. you think i have money like that to throw
away? nobody chooses to loses hundreds of dollars for no reason. you know
it, i know it, and everyone who knows about this situation knows it. i
cancelled my services with you solely at my own discretion and because of
your outrageous abuse of the host/customer relationship and outrageously
unethical business practices.

how disgustingly egotistical of you to claim that my Cy nominations are
based on the ground that you did NOT create, but that Elysium created. the
sky that you created from pictures you took off the internet. and the
avatars one of which you downloaded off the internet and recolored, and the
other which you are purported to also have stolen.

how revolting that you would claim it is that which people found worthy of
nominating, rather than the beautiful, original artwork in my world of such
talented artists as Lady Murasaki of Jade, Paul of Ganymede, Imagine of
Image, Diane and Jamey of Sails, and Elysium.

how revolting that you would claim it is that which people enjoy in my
world -- with no consideration for the hours and hours and hours of work i
have put into the design and building of my world.

I was nominated for a Cy for my world, you slimy puddle of vomit, ME -- not
you.




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Sep 30, 2002, 11:11am

Hmmm....seems like you really do business according to the Ferengi Rules of
Acquisition.
Here are those applying most to you.

Rule 001 » Once you have their money, you never give it back.
Rule 002 » The best deal is the one that brings the most profit.
Rule 152 » A lie is a way to tell the truth to someone who doesn't know.
Rule 144 » There's nothing wrong with charity...as long as it winds up in
your pocket.
Rule 181 » Not even dishonesty can tarnish the shine of profit.
Rule 008 » Small print leads to large risk.
Rule 010 » Greed is eternal.
Rule 012 » Anything worth doing is worth doing for money.
Rule 019 » Satisfaction is not guaranteed.
Rule 020 » Only give money to people you know you can steal from.
Rule 029 » What's in it for me?
Rule 041 » Profit is its own reward.
Rule 051 » Reward anyone who adds to your profits so they will continue to
do so.
Rule 052 » Never ask when you can take.
Rule 060 » Keep your lies consistent.
Rule 073 » If it gets you profit, sell your own mother.
Rule 211 » Employees are the rungs on the ladder of success... don't
hesitate to step on them.
Rule 239 » Never be afraid to mislabel a product.
Rule 262 » A verbal contract isn't worth the paper it's written on.
Rule 242 » More is good... all is better.
Rule 266 » When in doubt, lie.
Rule 265 » The customer is always right, (...until you get their cash).
Rule 077 » It's better to swallow your pride than to lose your profit.
Rule 084 » A friend is not a friend if he asks for a discount.
Rule 087 » A friend in need means three times the profit.
Rule 095 » Expand or die.
Rule 097 » Enough... is never enough.
Rule 098 » Every man has his price.
Rule 106 » There is no honor in poverty.
Rule 115 » The best contract always has a lot of fine print.
Rule 121 » Everything is for sale, including friendship.
Rule 141 » Only fools pay retail.
Rule 299 » Whenever you exploit someone, it never hurts to thank them. That
way, it's easier to exploit them the next time.

way too many apply to you : \ http://www.dmwright.com/html/ferengi.htm

Sep 30, 2002, 4:13pm

Argument done. Finished. Over With. Please!

This is one reason why I like bulletin boards. It's much easier to lock
topics on those. :(

Chris
Usenet is overrated.

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Sep 30, 2002, 5:02pm

"sw chris" <chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net> wrote in
news:3d98944d at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> Argument done. Finished. Over With. Please!
>
> This is one reason why I like bulletin boards. It's much easier to
> lock topics on those. :(
>
> Chris
> Usenet is overrated.

This isn't USENET :-)) Nobody likes censorship, so it's just as well. And
if this had been a HTML BB, there is little chance of any difference,
because the admin (Flagg) CAN get rid of this thread easily, but he's not
doing it and would not have done it on a BB either. I think it's positive
that everyone gets a chance to out their opinions without having their
debate stopped. InSanITy is just making a fool of himself and loosing even
more customers and esteem, let him do that and laugh of him.

KAH

Oct 4, 2002, 7:30pm

LOL as I said in my origional post..I said "InSaNiTy please be smart and do
NOT relpy to this post so that you will not be flamed".
Having done a years business with Heartfall I CAN speak out.
I realize that instead of insanity replying, he did what he does best, he
drags his users into it by asking them to fight his battles for him. How do
I know this? Because when amivalent first posted against Heartfall, which I
knew nothing about, he grammed me and asked me to post against amivalant.
And in another past situation which I knew nothing about he did the same.
Also again I will mention the sky box which I paid $30.00 for which is no
longer usable! King BlueMax you mentioned in your post that we are friends.
Hmmm actually you put a knife in my back talking about personal lives. Shall
I speak about how a grown man in his 30's (YOU King Bluemax) who lives at
his parent's home with his wife and kid and pays NO RENT, NO BILLS?
I could go on with your person life just to let you know how it feels. you
call yourself a "Friend"? Hah!
By the way you can have my sky box seeing how's you like Heartfall so much.
its available on the path you use the sky name is hfspcskya1ct Notice the
HF and A1CT in the name. it is yours to keep King Bluemax and shove it where
the sun does not shine!
You have the nerve to say you are my friend when you stick up for a rip off
artist who No.1 offered to sell me those 4 helicopters for $50.00 which are
available on your av list free of charge?
You stick by a rip off artist who puts a website on public display which
clearly lists his prices for different sized worlds and lists COMMERCIAL
WORLDS at $300.00 a year with path included and he sends me a bill stating I
have to pay $575.00 a year?
And Carolann your another guilty party for posted at the request of Isanity,
flmaklr, host or whatever name he is using lately. you expecting a discount?
Don't count on it!
Also in all my calls to heartfall NO ONE but Lars ever anwsered the phone
there. Also Lars compalins about AW not having a toll free number, well
neither does Heartfall!
Point here is I posted to tell the builders of my world their builds were
hitting the trash can and why, they had that right to know. You never built
in my world and had no right blasting me in any post!
If your happy with your service with Heartfall fine I am happy for you, but
you really had no business responding to me or my post, it was MY MONEY, MY
WORLD, MY BUILDER'S BUILDS THAT WERE LOST not yours!
And I personaly do not care who you are or what you can have done to me, you
had no business responding to me in the manner that you did.
You Carolann are just a puppet of Heartfall just like that freeloader King
BlueMax, who can afford to pay the piper, because the bum does not work, but
has his Mom and Stepdad support him and his wife and kid! Like King so
himself yes we both live with in 2 miles of each other, so yes I do know
him.
I work for a living 13 hours a day to be exact and pay my own way plus
support 3 kids!
As for insanity's charity websites, those events happend long ago and are
not current! Notice the pic of him with Chuck Norris, even the copy right on
the sites are OLD!
I informed the public of what was happening with my world and their builds,
I had a right to do that and speak the TRUTH, I get busted on for it, now
you can bet I am going to bust back!
One last thing, Johnny B you are so right to say what you said about the
post from that "ASS" King BlueMax. He went way over board and didn't even
spell the name of his favorite hosting service right! He put hearfall LOL
HAHA
But also understand he was under the direction of insanity to post, just
like I was when I was a Heartfall customer, being dragged into his battles
not knowing the whole story.
Thanks insanity you just ended a REAL life friendship!
Enough time wasted on this issue I have a world to run!
MrBruce
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Oct 4, 2002, 10:15pm

I wonder from where you got the nerve to
post all those lies about people?

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Oct 4, 2002, 10:35pm

>I had a right to do that and speak the TRUTH, I get busted on for it, now
> you can bet I am going to bust back!

Is that right you lying loser?? I realized, after responding to your post
(way last week!) to say I think ALL should have the right to defend
themselves or speak in favor of those who they cared to, (yes, even you but
also Heartfall or anyone else..even John Walker Lindh for God's sake) that
you were a lost cause and thought you'd soon show your true colors. Now you
have, you worthless liar! I am in NO WAY connected to Heartfall, Insanity
or whoever else is affiliated with that person. I host my own worlds with
the exception of one now hosted by the very excellent hosting service of
Dataman's Synergy. I have no problems and he participates in none of this
newsgroup silliness. You said I was speaking at his request....you prove
that....prove it to me! You said it here then prove it here...as if anyone
wanted to hear any more of this thing that YOU choose to drag out.You have
to lie now to attempt to prove a point then I am certain you've been lying
all along! I have seen the man once in a world and we barely exchanged
hellos..and that was maybe a year ago. Why do YOU have to lie in order to
look good??? Is it because the truth would prove that you weren't??
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Oct 4, 2002, 10:57pm

Then keep it out of AW's newsgroups. What??? Only you can talk, post and
berate people?? You had no business responding to my response to you unless
of course you think this is the case. I bet you won't respond to my request
for proof that I am hosted by Heartfall though will you?? You didn't even
suggest maybe I was...you said I WAS. You said I was his puppet?? You are in
need of serious mental help if you are so delusional that you think people
he doesn't even know are somehow hyptontized into doing his bidding.

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Oct 5, 2002, 12:00am

Wow, I didnt get into your personal life but you sure buttoned up mine
pretty well. And someone told me id get in trouble for slandering you? All i
can say in response to this post of yours is: 1. Youre just mad. 2. Youve
made yourself look stupid. And i really think that going into my life is
wasnt the issue.You as I last knew it live with your mom and your twice my
age. I own my own company and work out of my backyard, not getting rich
just getting by. How do you know wheter or not I pay rent or anything else
about my finances? You really dont. Why do I live in my parents house? None
of your business. If that is all you can say then I laugh at you. Not Me.
Your life is a lot more pitiful than mine. Its not my fault you have an
hourly job pushing boxes around and cant afford to live in an appartment due
to wage garnishments to pay back child support. Or that you strangly occupy
your moms basment dripping in sweat and chainsmoking ciggarettes to spend
all your free time and extra money to play peter pan in active worlds
catering to the imaturity of such obsessions. Youre a weirdo. Not me. Yup, I
live in my moms house with my wife and son and im glad I do. My son goes to
a good school and he gets to see his grandparents every day. Im not ashamed
of who i am or where i live. I can say youve truly made yourself look bad
here bruce. This was about my opinion on heartfall and the only retaliation
you offer is my living status? I laugh at you.
Shane
(King Bluemax)

Oct 5, 2002, 12:09am

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Oct 5, 2002, 12:11am

Oops..I meant to comment on his being "Lord of the smoke rings" (affected
his ability to reason I guess) Sorry about the empty post before.
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Oct 5, 2002, 12:27am

Just thought Id point out another one of your targeted brainwashing
comments. "But also understand he was under the direction of insanity to
post, just
like I was when I was a Heartfall customer, being dragged into his battles
not knowing the whole story." Do you really expect any intelleigent person
to believe this? But also understand....(sounds kinda biblical),I've been
told to do this to you? And I have to? what, resistance is futile? Just
Like you had too? I bet, im sure you had too, after all you are the Bruce
you would never mislead. LOL

I read what you said in your post and I replied to it, I haven't spoken
to insanity since my last upgrade and the conversation was about that.

Not only are you a weirdo, your a liar, No told me to say anything about
anything, you will just redirect it because you cant take criticism, you
react to it like a 12 year old. With rude senseless comments and then
redirect your anger toward what you misperceive as the source. I'm still
laughing at you.I cant believe that AW is that big a part of all you are
that you would act this way, Its downright awkward.

Shane
KBM

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Oct 5, 2002, 1:10am

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< I can say youve truly made yourself look bad
here bruce. This was about my opinion on heartfall and the only retaliation
you offer is my living status? I laugh at you.>

Ok ..so you did the same thing too now bluemax.. you two are even, so why
not take it outa here ( this is not the place to put personal info) and on
the phone or face to face and deal with it? I think it is a complete shame
that Insanity would come between two friends as this shows has happened..
"shakes head"

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Oct 5, 2002, 1:34am

Wait a minute, I expect a response from this guy MrBruce though. If he can
lie about me and berate me publicly.I can expect to be vindicated the same
way.publicly. A week ago (my last post and he attacks me still today!!) I
suggested to MrBruce that someone has the right to speak his mind even if it
disagrees with his.that's all. Please go back and read it. I was and still
am (or am I now?) a neutral 3rd party with no personal familiarity to either
party but saw something I thought wasn't right. Was I right?..That's not the
issue here. But I didn't lie like he did..I stated an opinion. He since has
said I had no right to respond to his post in the AW newsgroup ( but I too
have a right to post in if he made any public statement..it was not a
private email.no matter the subject-or why did he post it for all to
read?? ) But MrBruce lied and said the following.and MrBruce..still I
challenge you to prove this.do you refuse?

MrBruce's lies:

>And Carolann your another guilty party for posted at the request of
Isanity,
>flmaklr, host or whatever name he is using lately. you expecting a
discount?
>Don't count on it!


>You never built
>in my world and had no right blasting me in any post!
>If your happy with your service with Heartfall fine I am happy for you, but
>you really had no business responding to me or my post, it was MY MONEY, MY
>WORLD, MY BUILDER'S BUILDS THAT WERE LOST not yours!


>You Carolann are just a puppet of Heartfall just like that freeloader King
>BlueMax, who can afford to pay the piper, because the bum does not work,
but
>has his Mom and Stepdad support him and his wife and kid! Like King so
>himself yes we both live with in 2 miles of each other, so yes I do know
>him.


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Oct 5, 2002, 6:04am

This is a real request MrBruce. Not important to you? It is to me.
MrBruce :-) I am still waiting for your reply. You know, where I asked you
to prove your fairy tales about me being Insanity's puppet and where you
claim he asked me to defend him, and also claimed that he hosts my world(s),
remember? Those things that you said were the reason I responded to your
original post that began: "Hello to all, (my emphasis on your word) I feel
it best to cross post this announcment so everyone(again, my emphasis) sees
it." MrBruce, I don't even know Insanity.

and then you went on to tell me: :

"but you really had no business responding to me or my post, it was MY
MONEY, MY
WORLD, MY BUILDER'S BUILDS THAT WERE LOST" (your emphasis this time) but
MrBruce I am one of the "everyone" that you posted it to.

MrBruce.no one wants to read this crap anymore, nor do I and that's why my
posts ended a week ago when I saw how things were going...but you chose to
drag me back into this by saying some untruths about me after all this time,
this whole week later, I can't imagine why. You ran out of insulting things
to say about others maybe? I DO want you to set that record straight. Can
you, MrBruce? You can bet there has to be at least someone out there who is
curious about how you might reply, :-) I know I am. I know you see this, you
obviously watch and post to it often enough. So get it over with.or if not,
why not? What's the big deal? You're like me, you generally have no shortage
of words. How will you respond MrBruce, or will your silence answer for you?
If you don't reply it could indicate that you are not man enough to admit
you invented that story for the same reason you might have made up the
others..... to help you with your "case", but you needn't pick on me
MrBruce, it cannot help you. And it certainly isn't nice is it? Now once and
for all did you make that up about my connection to Insanity?

Oct 5, 2002, 6:12am

Carolann if you are not a builder of A!!CT or a customer of Heartfall.com
then you had absolutly no reason at all to post to my post.
For one thing the personal attacks from King Bluemax are under the Community
news group and were uncalled for.
As for you Carolann you just posted that you are NOT a user of Heartfall,
never have been a user and admit you do not know Lars Wyka, so my post
against you was who are you to voice an opinion in this mater especially in
favor of Heartfall?
Heartfall always says the anti-Heartfall people are people who have NEVER
used their services. THAT IS A LIE people, kerstin and myself DID use
Heartfall, I used them for a year, not because I was happy but because he
like with Kerstin would not provide a refund and I paid him a year in
advance!
The whole issue about Heartfall here is free advertising for his services
and how good they are. But no one is allowed to say the oppisite here.
A!!CT is and always was a FREE non-profit world, any money donated went to
Heartfall or AW, NOT ME.
I think before people speak out, they should read the whole thread here and
realize that parts of it are scattered about under different headings or was
renamed to suit Insanity's topic needs.
You want proof I have it, but if I post it to satisfy your needs you will
complain about the band-width used to post insanitys lies written in his own
worlds. No, why bother so you can say I edited the truth to make my
so-called lies look good?. I won't bother!
As a business like AW, Insanity needs to accept critism just like he expects
AW to accept it. Believe me I know how he speaks badly about AW, I have
proof of all his lies.
King you make yourself look stupid because some of us read the post you made
under community where you speak about my personal life, now you lie here by
saying you didn't.
Before anyone posts any ferther try reading the whole thread and if you want
to avoid being in my shoes, take my adivce do not make the same mistake I
did. If you want to use Heartfall use it in a private build world only, this
way you can drop service quitley and do not have to explain to anyone why
you did.
I learned one lesson here, as you all pester me. this moves me closer to
letting A!!CT expire. As I am really seeing what kind of people AW is all
about. But remember one thing people, it is AW who suffers the loss not you
or me!
Although I ask for donations, remember one thing, no matter how you look at
it I have contributed at least 85% of the cost of the world size and up
grades. I only asked as a public build world, that people give something
back to me that I paid to provided for them!
If I pay the $1,300.00 renewal fee to renew A!!CT in December and I provide
90% of the world space to the public, should I not ask for some type of
compsation in return?
But also remember as you push me out of AW, I support the program your using
right now, when I leave, thanks to your generous support of Heartfall's
ripping me off, $1,300.00 for A!!CT plus all my worlds will expire, along
with the 10 cits I support monthly at 6.95 a month each.
Thats a total of $3,475.00 that AW can count on not receiving and when AW
folds you can all go back to using ICQ!
Heartfall gives nothing for nothing, they are 150% profit, well guess
what...he didn't get my $575.00 did he?
It also seems strange that only two people support Heartfall here, he claims
he has 1000 happy users, I only see 2 posting in his favor and won't you
feel awful when I use up your band width providing emails and telegrams
providing proof that I speak the truth.
It is you people who start the hate in AW, as a happy customer has the right
to promot Heartfall and why they are happy, an unhappy user has the right to
say the oppisite!
This all started because King Bluemax brought my personal life into it, this
is why Johnny b posted what he did, all King Bluemax had to do was say he
was happy with the service, that's all that was needed, he started this hate
war by bringing my off line personal business and life into it.
Did I say anything about Lar's home life? No I did not.
Have fun posting anything you want about me, I really don't care!
MrBruce
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