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Sep 27, 2002, 10:23pm

blah, blah, blah,
maybe insanity isn't a saint but he doesnt deserve to be insulted,
personally I've had the best of experience with him, And judging from some
of the replies you guys in Mr. Happys Peter Pan Land need to get
spellchecker and a decent understanding of how to construct an argument, the
only thing you guys know is what Bruce tells you, if there is an argument
to be had it is better constructed from a neutral perspective with factual
information and not blind admiration. If you aren't children you sure are
acting like it by blindly posting nonsense. another thing I can tell you is
that there is more than one person at heartfall for sure, as i have delt
with some of them. Just one of the many inconsistancies in your information.
If Bruce jumped off a bridge would you follow? I hope not, even kids are
smart enough to know better.

Oct 5, 2002, 12:00am

Wow, I didnt get into your personal life but you sure buttoned up mine
pretty well. And someone told me id get in trouble for slandering you? All i
can say in response to this post of yours is: 1. Youre just mad. 2. Youve
made yourself look stupid. And i really think that going into my life is
wasnt the issue.You as I last knew it live with your mom and your twice my
age. I own my own company and work out of my backyard, not getting rich
just getting by. How do you know wheter or not I pay rent or anything else
about my finances? You really dont. Why do I live in my parents house? None
of your business. If that is all you can say then I laugh at you. Not Me.
Your life is a lot more pitiful than mine. Its not my fault you have an
hourly job pushing boxes around and cant afford to live in an appartment due
to wage garnishments to pay back child support. Or that you strangly occupy
your moms basment dripping in sweat and chainsmoking ciggarettes to spend
all your free time and extra money to play peter pan in active worlds
catering to the imaturity of such obsessions. Youre a weirdo. Not me. Yup, I
live in my moms house with my wife and son and im glad I do. My son goes to
a good school and he gets to see his grandparents every day. Im not ashamed
of who i am or where i live. I can say youve truly made yourself look bad
here bruce. This was about my opinion on heartfall and the only retaliation
you offer is my living status? I laugh at you.
Shane
(King Bluemax)

Oct 5, 2002, 12:27am

Just thought Id point out another one of your targeted brainwashing
comments. "But also understand he was under the direction of insanity to
post, just
like I was when I was a Heartfall customer, being dragged into his battles
not knowing the whole story." Do you really expect any intelleigent person
to believe this? But also understand....(sounds kinda biblical),I've been
told to do this to you? And I have to? what, resistance is futile? Just
Like you had too? I bet, im sure you had too, after all you are the Bruce
you would never mislead. LOL

I read what you said in your post and I replied to it, I haven't spoken
to insanity since my last upgrade and the conversation was about that.

Not only are you a weirdo, your a liar, No told me to say anything about
anything, you will just redirect it because you cant take criticism, you
react to it like a 12 year old. With rude senseless comments and then
redirect your anger toward what you misperceive as the source. I'm still
laughing at you.I cant believe that AW is that big a part of all you are
that you would act this way, Its downright awkward.

Shane
KBM

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Oct 5, 2002, 3:37pm

Where in that post did i personally attack you? Please point it out, I hope
this is giving you a headache, cause im still laughing. This is the post
from community,

" blah, blah, blah,
maybe insanity isn't a saint but he doesnt deserve to be insulted,
personally I've had the best of experience with him, And judging from some
of the replies you guys in Mr. Happys Peter Pan Land need to get
spellchecker and a decent understanding of how to construct an argument, the
only thing you guys know is what Bruce tells you, if there is an argument
to be had it is better constructed from a neutral perspective with factual
information and not blind admiration. If you aren't children you sure are
acting like it by blindly posting nonsense. another thing I can tell you is
that there is more than one person at heartfall for sure, as i have delt
with some of them. Just one of the many inconsistancies in your information.
If Bruce jumped off a bridge would you follow? I hope not, even kids are
smart enough to know better."

Im not seeing these aformentioned personal attacks, mabee your referring to
the peter pan comment. If that is it then stop acting like peter pan."
And im sorry to upset those who are disgruntled with my post. It to me wasnt
ever about being rude or flaming or spamming. but everything ive said is
either from being there at the time or something that was said to me by mr
bruce, no lies no half posts. just your own words. Also if you noticed the
issues you addressed werent even in my original post like pricing? i never
commented on that and several others you refuted. just the ones i had been
around for and had factual information on. You better print these posts out
and get a highlighter.

Oct 5, 2002, 3:52pm

just another note, in a previous post you had 200 builders, now 500+? which
is it.? I cant even follow this any more. All I ever set out to do was to
say i liked the services you hammered. You turned it into a personal
argument. Im done with "flaming" and mabee the response to your last post
was as bad as your post itself, and for all those who didnt want to hear it
im sorry. You are right i shuouldnt have done the same thing. for that i
apoligize. To the others not you bruce. Ive been on AW longer than you and i
now realize why ive never been into worldbuilding or getting credit for my
activities in AW. Its too much work to be a hobby. For me its a hobby not a
life, and to be honest id rather talk to people who arent so impassioned
with irelevance, I will end this and go back to what i like to do,
Building. I must admit that Ive gained one thing from this experience,
Mabee people you dont know online are better friends than you can get in
real life. Too bad youve come to these conclusions, but its not insanitys
fault. Im not mad at you at all. Youre the one who decided to sever our
friendship because you dont like it when others dont agree with you. Sorry
to all those who hate my mega posts, this will be the last big one.

Shane (KBM)

Oct 5, 2002, 4:09pm

One last note, for something to be slander it has to be a lie. I didnt
lie at all, everything ive said about you is factual and in no way is
priviledged because you personally told it to me. Still laughing. Get a
grip!

Oct 5, 2002, 4:16pm

ya, LOL last word. last word. LOL

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Oct 6, 2002, 3:05pm

Huh, I still didnt see anything about your personal life. and Ive printed
out the whole thing and highlighted areas I feel may have been offensive to
you but none seen to pop up unless AW is all you have for a life? I dont
know. How about a nice game of chess instead? LOL You can hate me but I
still am not upset with you. LOL. Still lauging. Last word, last word.

Shane (KBM)

Oct 9, 2002, 3:35pm

That's much better. More points less attacks. That post I respect.Good to
see that. I never said my world was better than A!!CT, just said I liked the
path and was still using it in my world if others wanted to use it as well.
I think that no matter how you add it up A!!CT is bigger, has more
community, and so on, I never was trying to compete with you. I don't have
that kind of time or support in my world. I think A!!CT has definitely
achieved its place up there in the successful public building world
category. My point was if you run a big world there are problems and some
are easily avoided instead of exploited. I read a lot of your posts and said
nothing. A Lot. I just wanted to input into the community my opinion on
issues I was around for. Nothing more nothing less.
Shane (KBM)

Feb 8, 2003, 9:58pm

Wow, figured id look at the newsgroups LOL, been a while. After reading this
whole string so far I couldnt resist my ten cents. I know how much you love
it LOL. Here goes, First AW has prob had 350000 cits over the years and
mabee theres 50000 or so Ive been told around still, If a persons interest
is sparked as a tourist they will decide it is worth the money and get it.
The point of tourists is to allow people to try it for free and if they like
it join. My second point is all this stuff about community, All of the needs
of most of these "do it at all cost" ventures you go on trying to fill the
needs of a "lacking community", well first, AW sponsers a lot of projects
that are designed to help people who cant afford these costs, AW TEEN allows
tourists, and is a big open world, The EDU universe allows for using aw as
classroom tool as well, These guys made all this stuff because they enjoy
it, they want to help people and do, in more ways than my two examples, but
it all costs money to run and operate. Then when they gave you a freebie you
blabbed it and now they are the bad guys again never being charitible, Ive
been attending a lot of those parties that are advertised on signs and i had
a good time, never really cared to worry about how the signs got there, and
even put signs for people at my gz, id do it for you too if there was ever
an event planned in A!!CT. Thats community, people getting together and
planning events, talking, meeting, just having a good time with friends,not
worring about whos where and having logs and reviewing them and making
jobs.Community is the GK's and the PK's or AWCC or AWHS a bunch of people
giving up time to help others in some way or another and even if there are
users leaving I still see older cit numbers coming into my world as well as
newer ones, How bout bingo or chess or checkers, or people who have nice
worlds themed to provide info or backup hisorical builds. See, The AW
community as far as im concerned is fine bruce, I could fill my calender
with visits to worlds or bingo or parties and so on, theres plenty of go
left in aw. I think your prob is that all these great voids you are trying
to fill are already filled with plenty of community and you missed the boat.
Since so many of the younger users look up to you soo much, I think that you
should be careful about how much you tell them how if you dont get money the
world is gonna end, the influence of these words in the past has probably
already gotten you the only record a!!ct will truly set. largest fruadulent
transaction in AW history. Of course I could be wrong. Stop boasting about
being a martyr and learn yoga or something. for those of you who are gonna
say im long winded, well you read it all the way LOL, Take care and Hi to
all,
King Bluemax

Feb 8, 2003, 10:03pm

Bravo, Maki Hats off to you.

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Feb 8, 2003, 10:14pm

Wow, figured id look at the newsgroups LOL, been a while. After reading this
whole string so far I couldnt resist my ten cents. I know how much you love
it LOL. Here goes, First AW has prob had 350000 cits over the years and
mabee theres 50000 or so Ive been told around still, If a persons interest
is sparked as a tourist they will decide it is worth the money and get it.
The point of tourists is to allow people to try it for free and if they like
it join. My second point is all this stuff about community, All of the needs
of most of these "do it at all cost" ventures you go on trying to fill the
needs of a "lacking community", well first, AW sponsers a lot of projects
that are designed to help people who cant afford these costs, AW TEEN allows
tourists, and is a big open world, The EDU universe allows for using aw as
classroom tool as well, These guys made all this stuff because they enjoy
it, they want to help people and do, in more ways than my two examples, but
it all costs money to run and operate. Then when they gave you a freebie you
blabbed it and now they are the bad guys again never being charitible, Ive
been attending a lot of those parties that are advertised on signs and i had
a good time, never really cared to worry about how the signs got there, and
even put signs for people at my gz, id do it for you too if there was ever
an event planned in A!!CT. Thats community, people getting together and
planning events, talking, meeting, just having a good time with friends,not
worring about whos where and having logs and reviewing them and making
jobs.Community is the GK's and the PK's or AWCC or AWHS a bunch of people
giving up time to help others in some way or another and even if there are
users leaving I still see older cit numbers coming into my world as well as
newer ones, How bout bingo or chess or checkers, or people who have nice
worlds themed to provide info or backup hisorical builds. See, The AW
community as far as im concerned is fine bruce, I could fill my calender
with visits to worlds or bingo or parties and so on, theres plenty of go
left in aw. I think your prob is that all these great voids you are trying
to fill are already filled with plenty of community and you missed the boat.
Since so many of the younger users look up to you soo much, I think that you
should be careful about how much you tell them how if you dont get money the
world is gonna end, the influence of these words in the past has probably
already gotten you the only record a!!ct will truly set. largest fruadulent
transaction in AW history. Of course I could be wrong. Stop boasting about
being a martyr and learn yoga or something. for those of you who are gonna
say im long winded, well you read it all the way LOL, Take care and Hi to
all,
King Bluemax

Feb 9, 2003, 2:45am

LOL,
My world is tourist enabled, but i dont spend all day rebuilding their
stuff, as for my life, whatever makes you feel better, LOL, the stupidity of
you insults is a clear indication that it bothers you, congrats to us, we
are in the worlds to watch this month, were climbing on the list and weve
got some nice people in our world that are mature and friendly with better
things to do than run around asking people why they are in other worlds,
even if there are 10 people in your world you are still paying for all of
them how is this benificial to the community? I get my friends the old
fashioned way, earn em, and your little italian buddy sounds more like
hitler than my plan to help you balance the budget of your world, glad i
opened this world when i did, seems awfully anti US in your camp these days,
im here to have fun, i dont know what your here to do. And i really dont
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Feb 9, 2003, 2:54am

oh, and one more thing, id like to donate enough money for you to get a
dictionary, (ill ask mommie for a couple of bucks) so you can learn to
spell, I am still laughing.

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Feb 9, 2003, 2:59am

I was at several of One Summers parties and im glad i attened each and every
one, i can think of 20 things she has done far more community orientated
than anthing ive seen from a!!ct, i look at your site to see whats going on,
and there is never anything planned even on there. she remembers people
birthdays even, and cheers them up when they are down, and id bet when she
organizes a party or helps others to the last thing she cares about is how
much credit she gets for it.

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Feb 9, 2003, 6:02am

I cant keep up, LOL, it seems to me out of 1300 worlds or mabee more, i dont
want you to criticise my not knowing the exact statistics, Why is it only
a!!ct that has all these misfortunes and all this unfair lack of exposure,
while you pay a lot, and we all know exactly what you spend, so dont start
listing it again please, im sure the other 1200 or so worlds and 50,000 or
so cits pay a hell of a lot more than you combined, not to discount you
"value" as a wonderful do gooder but A!!CT seems to get a lot more exposure,
help, and cooperation for AW and everyone else then I do or many of the
other worldowners. You seem to see it as a big competition to be the most
paid attention too. And to be honest you probably are the most paid
attention too, but really i think id me more concerned with why im paid
attention too. Want some cheese for that whine? LOL........Still

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Feb 9, 2003, 6:50am

If you arent brucie you obviosly have been givin a perception of me from
him, since it sounds almost exactly like the last rude post i endured by him
by mentioning unrelated issues.which clearly proves that I seem to be a
topic of discussion even though I rarely talk about you guys and its never
in a negitive sense. I even had a Tport at my info center to A!!CT but im
not gonna send people there after tonight, Ive seen some very disturbing
things coming out of people involved there that in no way do i want to
represent, I really think someone need to question that kind of influence
especially around youngsters.

Feb 9, 2003, 7:00am

finally, someone not in the cult. I was begining to think i was the crazy
one LOL

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Feb 9, 2003, 8:14am

For your benifit jorjia, when you post delete the stuff already in the post
when you click reply before sending it as it creates too much for the slower
connection people to download, and you got me there whoever you really are,
i did drag all that over a couple of times, but dont worry ive got the hang
of it now, ill be sure to make it smaller for you to load it faster.Sorry
Big Guy. Thanks for reminding me.and ill say only this out of my three cits
the highest citnumber is Akingdom 346978 the other one is none of you
business but its number is lower than that. jorjias citnumber attests itself
to her immigration date, you geniuses havent figured that out yet? My only
regret is showing her the newsgroups.
<snip>
just for you skipper.

Feb 9, 2003, 8:18am

Ya, with a free cit and 1000 dollars cash plus a free trip to hawaii, why
are you interested? You got me ohhhh....im so stupid. how could i have
thought id get away with it. Id like to know where i can get a pair of these
magic goggles you guys all have so i can see the truth too.

Feb 14, 2003, 4:25pm

Thinking Back.....To the early days of PC's....There was lots of pioneers in
getting programs and software copyrighted, including Bill Gates, was a hot
debate then on how to define it all and such. Makes for good reading,
Anyway, the book thing is a good analogy to me though because software is
not always looked at as being a physical thing, similar to music these days,
but from the other side of the fence, like being an artist, or developer, or
inventor, or programmer, etc...., It has to suck when your work doest pay
off, and even if some of them are filthy rich, thats why they bothered in
the first place. The most sucsessfull people usually give back too, im sure
if old mark was still around, he would help out the schools and such, his
estate probably had some kind of trust for scholarships or something,
Anyway, I guess my point was that im glad for copyrights, it inspires
exceptional people to achieve extrodinary results when they may have
otherwise not bothered because someone could just scoop up their ideas and
implement them elsewhere. If everything were free id hate to see our
economy....even that big free internet service provider gets 10 bucks a
month now.....must have gotton the electric bill. Take Care KBM

Feb 17, 2003, 1:53pm

Seems to me if you dont like the cost of something you just dont buy it. I
paid 70 bucks to allow tourists and it seemed fair to me, after all, each
presence in a world does eat up more resources. I also think that if
tourists could see what they were missing by not getting a cit they would be
more likely to get one so they could build. If not then no space for them.
So turning off tourist building allows for more enticing them to get a cit
and less freeloading. If you want to play then youve got to pay. I suppose
its all a matter of opinion and what you can afford. If I cant afford
something I simply dont buy it. And ill bet that calling people morons and
such doesnt inspire them to answer you. KBM

Feb 19, 2003, 4:59pm

I was trying to summarize, sorry. Ill be more clear. I was refering to the
portion of the original thread and it wasnt you there, that called anyone a
moron but the word moron was used.This post is directed to the group as a
whole not just you. I didnt get charged more money by my host at all or aw
until my world was up for renewal. Which, built into their user agreement
that most people (except lawyers lol) dont bother to read, im pretty sure,
not 100%, that at that time AW has the right to edit their policies and
costs. Most companys reserve the right to refuse or edit service at ANY time
they want and the agreement usually is only valid for a defined period,
which here is undoubtably one year, and as soon as you click accept youve
agreed to it. And After 6 years of Business Law classes, I can comfortably
say that here in the USA that by clicking the "agree" or "next" button no
matter what it says pretty much always stands up. Ive seen lines in user
agreements like " A Company reserves the right to, with NOTICE to you, the
user, at any time, for any reason, edit, change or terminate this
agreement", ....Click, LOL, I cant read all that... LOL, Read one of the
User Agreements on MS Windows, LOL, theres stuff in there thats
unbelievable. I dont have the user agreement here, as im one of those "Click
Next" people lol. Mabee ENZO could dig up the world owners user agreement,
so we could review it better, as he probably knows right where its at. When
I renewed it was clear to me that id have to pay to allow tourists and i
made the decision to do so. And to be honest, I may after 3.4 is released or
available to me, not allow tourists to build in my world, Why not, they can
come in and see what they are missing then pony up for a cit. Make great
business sense to me. My post may have been out of context with yours
directly but it was more geared toward replying to the group and their
different opinions instead of one person. Looking back at the posts you did
say "and the morons are almost certainly in the aw team." Im really not
looking to argue, just state my opinion. People keep saying that AW is gonna
fail, and I think it already came close because of the way it was, And these
changes have saved it financially. Im confident that the future of AW is in
the right hands, after all, those with the most to loose from its demise are
at the helm. Just my view, not trying to throw stones. KBM

Feb 20, 2003, 4:13pm

In most cases in the USA they have to NOTIFY you of a change but they can
reserve the right to change it. And with internet based companies the laws
of the state in which it is located usually apply. They are in Mass. not
sure what the laws there are exactly as im in Connecticut and spend most of
my law research time on tax laws here. But to fully understand any of it we
need to know the ruls on it in Mass. and exactly what it says in the TOS
Agreement for world owners. Most companies that have a legal team do those
kind of things and lawyers rarely goof it up enough to open up any
liabilities. KBM
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Feb 19, 2003, 5:13pm

I was sittin sh*ttin whe i read this post,
When I got half way through, thats when i s**t the most,
The ground was bare there was no grass,
So with this post I wiped my A**. LOL. Sorry, just couldnt resist. KBM

Sep 27, 2002, 10:23pm

blah, blah, blah,
maybe insanity isn't a saint but he doesnt deserve to be insulted,
personally I've had the best of experience with him, And judging from some
of the replies you guys in Mr. Happys Peter Pan Land need to get
spellchecker and a decent understanding of how to construct an argument, the
only thing you guys know is what Bruce tells you, if there is an argument
to be had it is better constructed from a neutral perspective with factual
information and not blind admiration. If you aren't children you sure are
acting like it by blindly posting nonsense. another thing I can tell you is
that there is more than one person at heartfall for sure, as i have delt
with some of them. Just one of the many inconsistancies in your information.
If Bruce jumped off a bridge would you follow? I hope not, even kids are
smart enough to know better.

Oct 5, 2002, 12:00am

Wow, I didnt get into your personal life but you sure buttoned up mine
pretty well. And someone told me id get in trouble for slandering you? All i
can say in response to this post of yours is: 1. Youre just mad. 2. Youve
made yourself look stupid. And i really think that going into my life is
wasnt the issue.You as I last knew it live with your mom and your twice my
age. I own my own company and work out of my backyard, not getting rich
just getting by. How do you know wheter or not I pay rent or anything else
about my finances? You really dont. Why do I live in my parents house? None
of your business. If that is all you can say then I laugh at you. Not Me.
Your life is a lot more pitiful than mine. Its not my fault you have an
hourly job pushing boxes around and cant afford to live in an appartment due
to wage garnishments to pay back child support. Or that you strangly occupy
your moms basment dripping in sweat and chainsmoking ciggarettes to spend
all your free time and extra money to play peter pan in active worlds
catering to the imaturity of such obsessions. Youre a weirdo. Not me. Yup, I
live in my moms house with my wife and son and im glad I do. My son goes to
a good school and he gets to see his grandparents every day. Im not ashamed
of who i am or where i live. I can say youve truly made yourself look bad
here bruce. This was about my opinion on heartfall and the only retaliation
you offer is my living status? I laugh at you.
Shane
(King Bluemax)

Oct 5, 2002, 12:27am

Just thought Id point out another one of your targeted brainwashing
comments. "But also understand he was under the direction of insanity to
post, just
like I was when I was a Heartfall customer, being dragged into his battles
not knowing the whole story." Do you really expect any intelleigent person
to believe this? But also understand....(sounds kinda biblical),I've been
told to do this to you? And I have to? what, resistance is futile? Just
Like you had too? I bet, im sure you had too, after all you are the Bruce
you would never mislead. LOL

I read what you said in your post and I replied to it, I haven't spoken
to insanity since my last upgrade and the conversation was about that.

Not only are you a weirdo, your a liar, No told me to say anything about
anything, you will just redirect it because you cant take criticism, you
react to it like a 12 year old. With rude senseless comments and then
redirect your anger toward what you misperceive as the source. I'm still
laughing at you.I cant believe that AW is that big a part of all you are
that you would act this way, Its downright awkward.

Shane
KBM

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Oct 5, 2002, 3:37pm

Where in that post did i personally attack you? Please point it out, I hope
this is giving you a headache, cause im still laughing. This is the post
from community,

" blah, blah, blah,
maybe insanity isn't a saint but he doesnt deserve to be insulted,
personally I've had the best of experience with him, And judging from some
of the replies you guys in Mr. Happys Peter Pan Land need to get
spellchecker and a decent understanding of how to construct an argument, the
only thing you guys know is what Bruce tells you, if there is an argument
to be had it is better constructed from a neutral perspective with factual
information and not blind admiration. If you aren't children you sure are
acting like it by blindly posting nonsense. another thing I can tell you is
that there is more than one person at heartfall for sure, as i have delt
with some of them. Just one of the many inconsistancies in your information.
If Bruce jumped off a bridge would you follow? I hope not, even kids are
smart enough to know better."

Im not seeing these aformentioned personal attacks, mabee your referring to
the peter pan comment. If that is it then stop acting like peter pan."
And im sorry to upset those who are disgruntled with my post. It to me wasnt
ever about being rude or flaming or spamming. but everything ive said is
either from being there at the time or something that was said to me by mr
bruce, no lies no half posts. just your own words. Also if you noticed the
issues you addressed werent even in my original post like pricing? i never
commented on that and several others you refuted. just the ones i had been
around for and had factual information on. You better print these posts out
and get a highlighter.

Oct 5, 2002, 3:52pm

just another note, in a previous post you had 200 builders, now 500+? which
is it.? I cant even follow this any more. All I ever set out to do was to
say i liked the services you hammered. You turned it into a personal
argument. Im done with "flaming" and mabee the response to your last post
was as bad as your post itself, and for all those who didnt want to hear it
im sorry. You are right i shuouldnt have done the same thing. for that i
apoligize. To the others not you bruce. Ive been on AW longer than you and i
now realize why ive never been into worldbuilding or getting credit for my
activities in AW. Its too much work to be a hobby. For me its a hobby not a
life, and to be honest id rather talk to people who arent so impassioned
with irelevance, I will end this and go back to what i like to do,
Building. I must admit that Ive gained one thing from this experience,
Mabee people you dont know online are better friends than you can get in
real life. Too bad youve come to these conclusions, but its not insanitys
fault. Im not mad at you at all. Youre the one who decided to sever our
friendship because you dont like it when others dont agree with you. Sorry
to all those who hate my mega posts, this will be the last big one.

Shane (KBM)

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