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Jul 6, 2003, 7:41pm

NO NO NO NO >_< its the fact i see no reason to continue no one gives any
feed back which isn't insulting and thats probably why i started leaving
insulting things in my posts

Jul 6, 2003, 8:18pm

Maybe im just going totally insane

Jul 7, 2003, 12:50am

I know and now i see it now. I only took KBK's side cause A2BrianK was on
loan to be :-/

Jul 8, 2003, 1:41am

I know im no where near xelag's legal but as you see he gets appreshiation
id maybe like some small feed back

Jul 8, 2003, 2:06pm

Its not no one uses it ive seen a few people using my bots i post them in
the newsgroups i just never hear them say anything

Jul 16, 2003, 11:13am

Modifing the ini is in breach of the AW EULA (End user license agreement) as
its counts as editing the software. Some universes on are private and aren't
ment to be visited by people. Each browser you install licenses you to 1
copy of the AW Software for accessing the AW universe only or which ever
universe its set to. I had a slightly extended talk from bill about this.
But doesn't this mean programs like AWStart are illigal?

Jul 16, 2003, 11:19am

Quite simpley as well to find out like with me the universe keeps log files.
Of visitors IP's etc. Your name and/or IP must have been located in one of
the private universes log files and if it was your IP it may match up with
your name in the AW uniserver logs as well.

http://www.activeworlds.com/help/aw34/uniserver_log.html does show quite a
extensive logging mechanisum. But like world server logs that shows every
bit info about you down to the exact cells youve queried etc

Jul 16, 2003, 3:04pm

Just remember Calpantera works AW Inc its a sireous warning

Jul 16, 2003, 3:21pm

Telegram from Calpantera, sent Tue Jul 15, 2003 22:10:

Editing the ini is altering the software and against the EULA..

Jul 16, 2003, 3:27pm

Inside the AW Installation or right here:

ACTIVE WORLDS BROWSER END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT

BY CLICKING ON THE "NEXT" BUTTON, YOU ARE CONSENTING TO BE BOUND BY AND ARE
BECOMING A PARTY TO THIS AGREEMENT. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO ALL OF THE TERMS
OF THIS AGREEMENT, CLICK THE "CANCEL" BUTTON AND THE INSTALLATION PROCESS
WILL NOT CONTINUE. IF THESE TERMS ARE CONSIDERED AN OFFER, ACCEPTANCE IS
EXPRESSLY LIMITED TO THESE TERMS.

GRANT. Subject to the terms of this Agreement, Activeworlds.com, Inc.
("AWCOM") hereby grants you a limited, personal, nontransferable,
nonsublicensable, royalty-free, nonexclusive license to use one copy of the
client software product you are about to install in object code form
("Software") for the purpose of accessing the Active Worlds server and using
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Jul 16, 2003, 4:20pm

well i dont see license.txt or anythng like that in my Aw dir :)

Jul 19, 2003, 2:16am

I bet AW History ppl have it protected like most the builds around gz have
been taken over by them :-/

Jul 20, 2003, 11:29pm

Maybe the lady should make a stand against the fact the aw uniserver logs
telegrams ;)

Oh sorry guys thats gonna have her going for months...but id have thought
the software would have been encrypted anyway... its certainly compressed
the aworld.exe's seem to be getting smaller not larger O_o

Jul 20, 2003, 11:22pm

Im joining brocks democracy!

Jul 21, 2003, 8:01pm

Id just like to know what kind of tool kit would be in around 50kb exe or
what installation comes in a 50kb exe?

Jul 21, 2003, 10:01pm

Or maybe it was a cit and shes just blanking out the name duh

Jul 22, 2003, 10:06pm

Theres no way AW can block him by IP theres hundreds of thousands of public
access proxy's he can use

Jul 25, 2003, 11:45pm

i use to get that it was a bad sound driver i had so it may be a driver
problem if ur on 2k/xp go to Control Panel > System > Advanced > Click
Settings in Start up and recovery uncheck Automatically restart and see what
the offending file is. On XP i had send error report about a critial system
error after rebooting i sent it and it returned the driver i needed. worked
fine ever since

Jul 24, 2003, 5:55pm

I telegramed Calpantera about that he said he was thinking of the same thing

<TELEGRAM QUOTE>

Telegram from Calpantera, sent Wed Jul 23, 2003 18:58:

I was thinking the same thing. Maybe even having the installers created,
code signed and hosted by AW

</TELEGRAM QUOTE>

Jul 24, 2003, 5:57pm

Oh and john lay off smaping my site on AW www.xeonsoft.co.uk does aw related
bots and soon to host worlds. If ppl find Xw on there then fine but dont go
smapping a non related stuff spam for my bots if you have to.

Jul 25, 2003, 11:43pm

i use to get that it was a bad sound driver i had so it may be a driver
problem if ur on 2k/xp go to Control Panel > System > Advanced > Click
Settings in Start up and recovery uncheck Automatically restart and see what
the offending file is. On XP i had send error report about a critial system
error after rebooting i sent it and it returned the driver i needed. worked
fine ever since

Jul 31, 2003, 10:50pm

its been enabled for a while just now they have disable tourist build :)

Aug 2, 2003, 6:33am

I have started hosting worlds on my 2 windows servers. I hope to soon write
a small program that will allow you to remote administer your worlds and
only your worlds with out other world owners being able to access yours as
well as there own that I host. I will also offer hosting on other universes
apon request. See the site below for more details.

http://www.xeonsoft.co.uk/awhosting.htm

I soon hope to start bot hosting for world owners and a possibley rent my
object rather which i have started expanding. The path my also be rentable
by other users for there worlds.

In the next few days I will improve the site to add hosting news and a
network status information. Until i complete my remote admin until i will
take any changes to the worlds via telegram and email.

Aug 2, 2003, 7:05am

Well thats johns sence of humor for you!

Aug 2, 2003, 7:06am

No, cause then they could just add extra worlds :)

Aug 2, 2003, 8:26am

Ok that is very scarey... i only just renewed my cit and somehow you know i
did it :O!

Aug 2, 2003, 9:25am

Yeah suppose but if i got serval servers im not really in the mood to check
them every day or every 5 min

Aug 2, 2003, 9:28am

The whole point of the sdk it to make life easier so why not use it to make
a remote admin utility saves having to upgrade and mess around with god
knows how many world servers but it would be 1 way

Aug 4, 2003, 10:48am

Yep ananas's theory is correct check that....I always try to use ones with
lil bump in it or block out pins so i cant put it in the wrong way up

Aug 6, 2003, 6:46am

The tilting isn't a seq its just an angel sent by ur browser to the world
server like the direction ur facing

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