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Jul 16, 2003, 10:43am

Telegram from Calpantera, sent ke heinä 16, 2003 0:07:
Do NOT enter other universes on our servers by changing the port on the
aworld.ini. This is against the EULA and could get your right to use AW
revoked. Do not port surf our servers.

When I logged into AW I had recived this.
I am wondering what the big harm is if I find a new universe? Maybe that
could cause me to register as a citizen and even buy a world .

The reason why I did this was I was asked to help out with a slight problem
on one OP I host. The OP is used in an universe hosted by AW. I am a citizen
in the universe, but has never downloaded the browser simply because I have
a small HD.
I had forgotten which port it was running on, so I had to try until I found
it.

I am now wondering; where can I find links to download all browsers separte
for all universes? I have not came across it anywhere at activeworlds.com .

I am also wondering what the f*** EULA is. I do not recall reading anywhere
when installing the software that chaning the ini is illegal. Would it be
illegal to remove ones password from the ini if one has by mistake sometimes
set it to save it automatically?

I must say I am getting very tired of the nazi policy AWI has; they come up
with new shit for worldowners each day. They change the rules as they
please; even in the middle of a contract. I guess it is their right to do so
tho, but living in a fairly democratic country I just get so pissed off at
people who has no respect of others; simply because they feel they do not
have to.

I am also wondering if it is legal for a comapany to "spy" on me; how else
would they have known I had to look for the right port? Furthemore, if this
EULA thing came with 3.4 and I use 3.3 for entering various universes, I
should not be braking any stupid laws?

Drac

Jul 16, 2003, 11:13am

Modifing the ini is in breach of the AW EULA (End user license agreement) as
its counts as editing the software. Some universes on are private and aren't
ment to be visited by people. Each browser you install licenses you to 1
copy of the AW Software for accessing the AW universe only or which ever
universe its set to. I had a slightly extended talk from bill about this.
But doesn't this mean programs like AWStart are illigal?

Jul 16, 2003, 11:19am

Quite simpley as well to find out like with me the universe keeps log files.
Of visitors IP's etc. Your name and/or IP must have been located in one of
the private universes log files and if it was your IP it may match up with
your name in the AW uniserver logs as well.

http://www.activeworlds.com/help/aw34/uniserver_log.html does show quite a
extensive logging mechanisum. But like world server logs that shows every
bit info about you down to the exact cells youve queried etc

Jul 16, 2003, 1:02pm

do what i do , *delete grams* , problem solved :)

Jul 16, 2003, 1:18pm

I have looked into each and every folder where I have my browser installed,
I can find NO license text. How I am supposed to know what it says 5 years
after I installed a software ?
I disagree that editing the ini is editing the software.Espeacially since it
is a part that is meant to be edited. I found a mumble jumlble license text
in the worldserver software; it did not make much sense to me tho. I wonder
how AWI is suspecting people with other native language than english to make
any sense of the text at all.

If someone has a private universe and wish to have no visitors, one simply
do not allow tourists to enter; simple as that.

I do not really see the logic of having 20 identical browsers installed ,
when one could do with one or two.

Drac
r i c h a r d <richard.lazenby1 at ntlworld.com> kirjoitti
viestissä:3f154f69$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Modifing the ini is in breach of the AW EULA (End user license agreement)
as
> its counts as editing the software. Some universes on are private and
aren't
> ment to be visited by people. Each browser you install licenses you to 1
> copy of the AW Software for accessing the AW universe only or which ever
> universe its set to. I had a slightly extended talk from bill about this.
> But doesn't this mean programs like AWStart are illigal?
>
>

Jul 16, 2003, 1:24pm

I still not see the illegal part. Sometimes I have clicked on links provided
by Google and ended up on a 403 page. Would this mean I am doing something
illegal? I simply take it as ok, I try another page. Same with universes.
Many universes do not let me enter, fine , I try another.

I find it rather amusing that someone actually have time to sit and compare
log files and ips; this in a company that claim to be to busy to help out
customers or solve any problems.

Guess I will have to connect through proxies when visiting OW for example,
so I am not committing any crimes.
Stupidity seems to grow all the time, I wonder what next; maybe we can only
enter AW if we sit in a certain position infront of the computer, the same
as we did when we installed the frigging software.

Drac
r i c h a r d <richard.lazenby1 at ntlworld.com> kirjoitti
viestissä:3f1550e9 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Quite simpley as well to find out like with me the universe keeps log
files.
> Of visitors IP's etc. Your name and/or IP must have been located in one of
> the private universes log files and if it was your IP it may match up with
> your name in the AW uniserver logs as well.
>
> http://www.activeworlds.com/help/aw34/uniserver_log.html does show quite a
> extensive logging mechanisum. But like world server logs that shows every
> bit info about you down to the exact cells youve queried etc
>
>

Jul 16, 2003, 3:04pm

Just remember Calpantera works AW Inc its a sireous warning

Jul 16, 2003, 3:08pm

[View Quote] I suppose me deleting the port from fandom's ini was illegal too? But
then, AWI would've gotten no money from me whatsoever.

--
--Bowen--

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Jul 16, 2003, 3:12pm

you can use proxies for OW ? never worked for me

Jul 16, 2003, 3:18pm

Not really, 'the program' is defined as the binary executable and its
dependancies....

- Mark

Jul 16, 2003, 3:21pm

Telegram from Calpantera, sent Tue Jul 15, 2003 22:10:

Editing the ini is altering the software and against the EULA..

Jul 16, 2003, 3:23pm

Strange. The program is depending on windows , electricity and an internet
connection to work also.

Drac
strike rapier <strike at Rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> kirjoitti
viestissä:3f1588e6$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Not really, 'the program' is defined as the binary executable and its
> dependancies....
>
> - Mark
>
>

Jul 16, 2003, 3:24pm

[View Quote] Guess they'd be closer to the hole.

--
--Bowen--

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Jul 16, 2003, 3:25pm

I have not tested, because I have never run into these childish rules
before.

Drac
zerge aka rexory <erik.faes1 at pandora.be> kirjoitti
viestissä:3f158773 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> you can use proxies for OW ? never worked for me
>
>

Jul 16, 2003, 3:26pm

Bur WHERE can one read the EULA?
I guess one have to find a work around

Drac
r i c h a r d <richard.lazenby1 at ntlworld.com> kirjoitti
viestissä:3f1589a8$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Telegram from Calpantera, sent Tue Jul 15, 2003 22:10:
>
> Editing the ini is altering the software and against the EULA..
>
>

Jul 16, 2003, 3:27pm

Inside the AW Installation or right here:

ACTIVE WORLDS BROWSER END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT

BY CLICKING ON THE "NEXT" BUTTON, YOU ARE CONSENTING TO BE BOUND BY AND ARE
BECOMING A PARTY TO THIS AGREEMENT. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO ALL OF THE TERMS
OF THIS AGREEMENT, CLICK THE "CANCEL" BUTTON AND THE INSTALLATION PROCESS
WILL NOT CONTINUE. IF THESE TERMS ARE CONSIDERED AN OFFER, ACCEPTANCE IS
EXPRESSLY LIMITED TO THESE TERMS.

GRANT. Subject to the terms of this Agreement, Activeworlds.com, Inc.
("AWCOM") hereby grants you a limited, personal, nontransferable,
nonsublicensable, royalty-free, nonexclusive license to use one copy of the
client software product you are about to install in object code form
("Software") for the purpose of accessing the Active Worlds server and using
the Active Worlds software resident thereon ("AW Software").

You may: copy the Software for archival purposes, provided any copy must
contain all of the original Software's proprietary notices; you may use the
AW Software subject to the terms and conditions of this license.

You may not, directly or indirectly: modify, translate, reverse engineer,
decompile, disassemble (except to the extent applicable laws specifically
prohibit such restriction), create derivative works based on, or otherwise
attempt to discover the source code or underlying ideas or algorithms of the
Software or AW Software; or copy (except for archival purposes as set forth
above), rent, lease, distribute, transfer or otherwise transfer rights to
the Software or AW Software; use the Software or AW Software for timesharing
or service bureau purposes; or remove any proprietary notices or labels on
the Software or AW Software.

SOFTWARE. This license does not grant you any right to any enhancement or
update. Furthermore, this license does not grant you continued access to AW
Software.

SUPPORT. This Agreement does not entitle you to any maintenance, upgrades,
patches, enhancements, fixes, new versions or other support ("Support
Programs") for the Software or AW Software; provided, however, that if you
download or otherwise obtain in any manner any Support Programs they shall
become part of the Software and the terms of this Agreement shall apply.

TITLE. As between the parties, title, ownership rights, and intellectual
property rights in and to the Software and AW Software, and any copies or
portions thereof, shall remain in AWCOM and its suppliers or licensors. The
Software and AW Software are protected by the copyright laws of the United
States and international copyright treaties. Title, ownership rights, and
intellectual property rights in and to any software, data, information,
text, pictures, images, avatars, characters, sounds, personalities, or other
content ("Content") accessed through the Software or otherwise with AW
Software is the property of the applicable owner and may be protected by
applicable copyright or other law. This License gives you no rights, title,
or interest to Content (including without limitation Content that you post
or create on the Active Worlds server) except the limited license to use the
AW Software as described above.

DISCLAIMER OF WARRANTY. THE SOFTWARE, AW SOFTWARE, AND ANY SERVICES THAT
YOU RECEIVE FROM AWCOM, ARE PROVIDED "AS IS." AWCOM HEREBY DISCLAIMS ALL
EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION WARRANTIES OF
MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, AND NON-INFRINGEMENT.

LIMITATION OF LIABILITY. You assume the entire risk as to the quality and
performance of the Software or AW Software. AWCOM assumes no liability for
the cost of any service or repair if the Software or AW Software is
defective. Further, you assume the responsibility of, and any costs or
liability associated with, making a connection (by any means) to the Active
Worlds server, and you understand that the Software and AW Software will not
operate without such a connection.

AWCOM exercises no screening, editorial, or other control over Content
available to you through your use of the Software and AW Software, and
Content may include material that could be deemed distasteful, misleading,
inaccurate, offensive, pornographic or otherwise objectionable. Furthermore,
use of the Software or AW Software does not guarantee any privacy or
confidentiality of any Content you post or make available through the
Software and AWCOM assumes no responsibility or liability for the
preservation of such Content and may modify or remove it at AWCOM's sole
discretion. You hereby release AWCOM from any and all liability for all
claims related to Content as well as claims related to the security or level
of privacy provided.

UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES AND UNDER NO LEGAL THEORY, TORT, CONTRACT, STRICT
LIABILITY, OR OTHERWISE, SHALL AWCOM OR ITS LICENSORS, SUPPLIERS OR
RESELLERS BE LIABLE TO YOU OR ANY OTHER PERSON FOR ANY INDIRECT, SPECIAL,
INCIDENTAL, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, DAMAGES
FOR LOST PROFITS, LOSS OF GOODWILL, WORK STOPPAGE, COMPUTER FAILURE OR
MALFUNCTION, OR ANY AND ALL OTHER COMMERCIAL DAMAGES OR LOSSES. IN NO EVENT
WILL AWCOM BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES IN EXCESS OF AWCOM LIST PRICE FOR A
LICENSE TO THE SOFTWARE, EVEN IF AWCOM SHALL HAVE BEEN INFORMED OF THE
POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES.

TERMINATION. AWCOM may, at its sole discretion, terminate this Agreement,
the license granted herein, and your right to use or access the Software, AW
Software, or the Active Worlds server at any time. On termination, you must
destroy all copies of the Software.

ARBITRATION. Any claim alleging a violation of any duty incident to this
Agreement, or your use of the Software or the AW Software, or arising out of
any transaction occurring in Active Worlds, irrespective of the legal theory
asserted, is subject to binding arbitration. This means that both sides
give up all rights to a jury or court trial. The arbitration will take
place, at your choice, either on-line before the Active Worlds Tribunal, or
before a panel of arbitrators at the American Arbitration Association
offices in San Diego, California. In the latter instance, both sides shall
pay half of the fees and expenses associated with the arbitration
proceeding itself, but each side shall be responsible for all costs
associated with traveling to the site of the arbitration, preparing for the
arbitration, and hiring counsel, if desired. In both cases, both sides
shall select an arbitrator from a randomly generated list of available
arbitrators, and those two arbitrators shall select a third.
No punitive or consequent damages (including without limitation statutory
"multiplied," e.g. treble, damages) shall be awarded and the arbitrators
shall be made aware of this limitation.

EXPORT CONTROLS. None of the Software, AW Software or underlying
information or technology may be downloaded or otherwise exported or
re-exported (i) into (or to a national or resident of) Cuba, Iraq, Libya,
Yugoslavia, North Korea, Iran, Syria or any other country to which the U.S.
has embargoed goods; or (ii) into any country in which the U.S. has
embargoed goods, or to anyone on the U.S. Treasury Department's list of
Specially Designated Nationals or the U.S. Commerce Department's Table of
Deny Orders. By downloading or using the Software, you are agreeing to the
foregoing and you are representing and warranting that you are not located
in, under the control of, or a national or resident of any such country or
on any such list.

MISCELLANEOUS. This Agreement represents the complete license agreement and
supersedes all prior agreements and representations and may only be amended
by a writing executed by the parties. If any provision of this Agreement is
held to be unenforceable for any reason, such provision shall be reformed
only to the extent necessary to make it enforceable. This Agreement shall be
governed by and construed under Massachusetts law.

U.S. GOVERNMENT RESTRICTED RIGHTS. Use, duplication or disclosure by the
Government is subject to restrictions set forth in subparagraphs (a) through
(d) of the Commercial Computer-Restricted Rights clause at FAR 52.227-19
when applicable, or in subparagraph (c)(1)(ii) of the Rights in Technical
Data and Computer Software clause in DFARS 252.227-7013, and in similar
clauses in the NASA FAR Supplement.

Created and produced by Activeworlds.com, Inc.

Jul 16, 2003, 3:32pm

[View Quote] Better not cut the electricity or internet connection while the program
is running. That would be illegal, maybe.

--
--Bowen--

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Jul 16, 2003, 3:36pm

You're wrong, INI files are supposed to be modified, that's
what the format has been designed for. Most of the INI file
is not part of the AW delivery anyway. Beta testers even
are encouraged to modify some INI file settings.

Neither my AwStart nor the Russian one are illegal (well,
duplicate name, sorry) as they do not modify any part of
the AW software, they just change the configuration.
The russian one even has been on the Russian AW web site
for some time (that's where I found it by chance)!

The only thing that might be a problem would be that I used
the same name (not knowing there was already an awstart.exe).

Maybe Calpantera was drunk when he wrote this telegram.


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Jul 16, 2003, 3:38pm

I bet it would. I was not actually editing the ini file either, just
replaced it. I renamed the original ( I take I must be allowed to have my
files named as I wish on my PC). Then I dropped the new ini file in. I must
be allowed to store a text file where I wish on my PC and must be allowed to
have it named as I wish. If AW-exe do choose to use the text file I have
decided to store in a folder of my choose, instead of the one meant , it
cannot be my fault, can it ?

Drac
bowen <Bowen at andras.net> kirjoitti
viestissä:3f158c21$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
[View Quote]

Jul 16, 2003, 3:40pm

Technically, I can understand the intent of Calpantera's message. However,
even within AW's user guide, they recommend changing the aworld.ini,
altering settings. See
http://www.activeworlds.com/help//multiple_worlds.html - I'm sure it appears
in more than one place. You can't have it both ways. You can't claim
altering the aworld.ini is a violation of EULA, and at the same time
recommend doing it within your own help files.

[View Quote]

Jul 16, 2003, 3:41pm

check this web page btw. *g

http://www.activeworlds.com/newsletter/1102/110206.html

[View Quote]

Jul 16, 2003, 3:44pm

Not part of the installed file set.
The EULA HAS to be installed if it is supposed to be valid
and binding. Even Microsoft had to learn that.


[View Quote]

Jul 16, 2003, 3:46pm

[View Quote] OK, add functionality to allow us to change any part of our INI with
your AWStart application... we should be well within the limits if your
program is also legal.

Seeing as how DeadAIM and MSN+ are allowed, and you know how much
legalwhores Microsoft and AOL are, why would editing an INI be so bad?
AW would likely have no case if they brought everyone that's done it
(they can't just bring Drac, they have to bring everyone.)

--
--Bowen--

No of SETI units returned: 35
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Jul 16, 2003, 3:47pm

Thank you Richard.

Now if anyone could point me to the place that forbid me to rename any file,
I would be happy.

" GRANT. Subject to the terms of this Agreement, Activeworlds.com, Inc.
("AWCOM") hereby grants you a limited, personal, nontransferable,
nonsublicensable, royalty-free, nonexclusive license to use one copy of the
client software product you are about to install in object code form
("Software") for the purpose of accessing the Active Worlds server and
using
the Active Worlds software resident thereon ("AW Software")."

I guess this is the critical part. Note especailly the "for the purpose of
accesing the Active Worlds server" I was connecting to an Active Worlds
server and only one place at once.
Now I have just out of curiousity download the OW and CNW browsers just to
see if the text is changed for those, if not I really do not consider I have
braken any rules.

Drac

r i c h a r d <richard.lazenby1 at ntlworld.com> kirjoitti
viestissä:3f158afd at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Inside the AW Installation or right here:
>
> ACTIVE WORLDS BROWSER END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT
>
> BY CLICKING ON THE "NEXT" BUTTON, YOU ARE CONSENTING TO BE BOUND BY AND
ARE
> BECOMING A PARTY TO THIS AGREEMENT. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO ALL OF THE
TERMS
> OF THIS AGREEMENT, CLICK THE "CANCEL" BUTTON AND THE INSTALLATION PROCESS
> WILL NOT CONTINUE. IF THESE TERMS ARE CONSIDERED AN OFFER, ACCEPTANCE IS
> EXPRESSLY LIMITED TO THESE TERMS.
>
> GRANT. Subject to the terms of this Agreement, Activeworlds.com, Inc.
> ("AWCOM") hereby grants you a limited, personal, nontransferable,
> nonsublicensable, royalty-free, nonexclusive license to use one copy of
the
> client software product you are about to install in object code form
> ("Software") for the purpose of accessing the Active Worlds server and
using
> the Active Worlds software resident thereon ("AW Software").
>
> You may: copy the Software for archival purposes, provided any copy must
> contain all of the original Software's proprietary notices; you may use
the
> AW Software subject to the terms and conditions of this license.
>
> You may not, directly or indirectly: modify, translate, reverse engineer,
> decompile, disassemble (except to the extent applicable laws specifically
> prohibit such restriction), create derivative works based on, or otherwise
> attempt to discover the source code or underlying ideas or algorithms of
the
> Software or AW Software; or copy (except for archival purposes as set
forth
> above), rent, lease, distribute, transfer or otherwise transfer rights to
> the Software or AW Software; use the Software or AW Software for
timesharing
> or service bureau purposes; or remove any proprietary notices or labels on
> the Software or AW Software.
>
> SOFTWARE. This license does not grant you any right to any enhancement or
> update. Furthermore, this license does not grant you continued access to
AW
> Software.
>
> SUPPORT. This Agreement does not entitle you to any maintenance,
upgrades,
> patches, enhancements, fixes, new versions or other support ("Support
> Programs") for the Software or AW Software; provided, however, that if you
> download or otherwise obtain in any manner any Support Programs they shall
> become part of the Software and the terms of this Agreement shall apply.
>
> TITLE. As between the parties, title, ownership rights, and intellectual
> property rights in and to the Software and AW Software, and any copies or
> portions thereof, shall remain in AWCOM and its suppliers or licensors.
The
> Software and AW Software are protected by the copyright laws of the United
> States and international copyright treaties. Title, ownership rights, and
> intellectual property rights in and to any software, data, information,
> text, pictures, images, avatars, characters, sounds, personalities, or
other
> content ("Content") accessed through the Software or otherwise with AW
> Software is the property of the applicable owner and may be protected by
> applicable copyright or other law. This License gives you no rights,
title,
> or interest to Content (including without limitation Content that you post
> or create on the Active Worlds server) except the limited license to use
the
> AW Software as described above.
>
> DISCLAIMER OF WARRANTY. THE SOFTWARE, AW SOFTWARE, AND ANY SERVICES THAT
> YOU RECEIVE FROM AWCOM, ARE PROVIDED "AS IS." AWCOM HEREBY DISCLAIMS ALL
> EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION WARRANTIES OF
> MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, AND NON-INFRINGEMENT.
>
> LIMITATION OF LIABILITY. You assume the entire risk as to the quality and
> performance of the Software or AW Software. AWCOM assumes no liability for
> the cost of any service or repair if the Software or AW Software is
> defective. Further, you assume the responsibility of, and any costs or
> liability associated with, making a connection (by any means) to the
Active
> Worlds server, and you understand that the Software and AW Software will
not
> operate without such a connection.
>
> AWCOM exercises no screening, editorial, or other control over Content
> available to you through your use of the Software and AW Software, and
> Content may include material that could be deemed distasteful, misleading,
> inaccurate, offensive, pornographic or otherwise objectionable.
Furthermore,
> use of the Software or AW Software does not guarantee any privacy or
> confidentiality of any Content you post or make available through the
> Software and AWCOM assumes no responsibility or liability for the
> preservation of such Content and may modify or remove it at AWCOM's sole
> discretion. You hereby release AWCOM from any and all liability for all
> claims related to Content as well as claims related to the security or
level
> of privacy provided.
>
> UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES AND UNDER NO LEGAL THEORY, TORT, CONTRACT, STRICT
> LIABILITY, OR OTHERWISE, SHALL AWCOM OR ITS LICENSORS, SUPPLIERS OR
> RESELLERS BE LIABLE TO YOU OR ANY OTHER PERSON FOR ANY INDIRECT, SPECIAL,
> INCIDENTAL, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION,
DAMAGES
> FOR LOST PROFITS, LOSS OF GOODWILL, WORK STOPPAGE, COMPUTER FAILURE OR
> MALFUNCTION, OR ANY AND ALL OTHER COMMERCIAL DAMAGES OR LOSSES. IN NO
EVENT
> WILL AWCOM BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES IN EXCESS OF AWCOM LIST PRICE FOR A
> LICENSE TO THE SOFTWARE, EVEN IF AWCOM SHALL HAVE BEEN INFORMED OF THE
> POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES.
>
> TERMINATION. AWCOM may, at its sole discretion, terminate this Agreement,
> the license granted herein, and your right to use or access the Software,
AW
> Software, or the Active Worlds server at any time. On termination, you
must
> destroy all copies of the Software.
>
> ARBITRATION. Any claim alleging a violation of any duty incident to this
> Agreement, or your use of the Software or the AW Software, or arising out
of
> any transaction occurring in Active Worlds, irrespective of the legal
theory
> asserted, is subject to binding arbitration. This means that both sides
> give up all rights to a jury or court trial. The arbitration will take
> place, at your choice, either on-line before the Active Worlds Tribunal,
or
> before a panel of arbitrators at the American Arbitration Association
> offices in San Diego, California. In the latter instance, both sides shall
> pay half of the fees and expenses associated with the arbitration
> proceeding itself, but each side shall be responsible for all costs
> associated with traveling to the site of the arbitration, preparing for
the
> arbitration, and hiring counsel, if desired. In both cases, both sides
> shall select an arbitrator from a randomly generated list of available
> arbitrators, and those two arbitrators shall select a third.
> No punitive or consequent damages (including without limitation statutory
> "multiplied," e.g. treble, damages) shall be awarded and the arbitrators
> shall be made aware of this limitation.
>
> EXPORT CONTROLS. None of the Software, AW Software or underlying
> information or technology may be downloaded or otherwise exported or
> re-exported (i) into (or to a national or resident of) Cuba, Iraq, Libya,
> Yugoslavia, North Korea, Iran, Syria or any other country to which the
U.S.
> has embargoed goods; or (ii) into any country in which the U.S. has
> embargoed goods, or to anyone on the U.S. Treasury Department's list of
> Specially Designated Nationals or the U.S. Commerce Department's Table of
> Deny Orders. By downloading or using the Software, you are agreeing to the
> foregoing and you are representing and warranting that you are not located
> in, under the control of, or a national or resident of any such country or
> on any such list.
>
> MISCELLANEOUS. This Agreement represents the complete license agreement
and
> supersedes all prior agreements and representations and may only be
amended
> by a writing executed by the parties. If any provision of this Agreement
is
> held to be unenforceable for any reason, such provision shall be reformed
> only to the extent necessary to make it enforceable. This Agreement shall
be
> governed by and construed under Massachusetts law.
>
> U.S. GOVERNMENT RESTRICTED RIGHTS. Use, duplication or disclosure by the
> Government is subject to restrictions set forth in subparagraphs (a)
through
> (d) of the Commercial Computer-Restricted Rights clause at FAR 52.227-19
> when applicable, or in subparagraph (c)(1)(ii) of the Rights in Technical
> Data and Computer Software clause in DFARS 252.227-7013, and in similar
> clauses in the NASA FAR Supplement.
>
> Created and produced by Activeworlds.com, Inc.
>
>

Jul 16, 2003, 3:49pm

The major problem that I wanted to solve with AwStart was loosing
the contact list when switching universe server and port.

AwStart is not really needed for newer universes anymore because
the contact list is kept on the universe server now.


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Jul 16, 2003, 4:02pm

Thank you Mongo :-)))))
I will use this when the drag me to court or I drag them if they suspend my
account.

Drac
mongo <mongo at alt.2600.comcrap> kirjoitti
viestissä:3f158e1d$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Technically, I can understand the intent of Calpantera's message. However,
> even within AW's user guide, they recommend changing the aworld.ini,
> altering settings. See
> http://www.activeworlds.com/help//multiple_worlds.html - I'm sure it
appears
> in more than one place. You can't have it both ways. You can't claim
> altering the aworld.ini is a violation of EULA, and at the same time
> recommend doing it within your own help files.
>
[View Quote]

Jul 16, 2003, 4:08pm

An even better example :

http://www.activeworlds.com/help/uniserver_access.html

They _ENCOURAGE_ you

<quote>

To customize your browser, add the following two lines to the top of the aworld.ini file:

[universe]
host=domain name or IP address of the UniServer machine

</quote>

You see that the telegram is plain nonsense.


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Jul 16, 2003, 4:10pm

http://www.activeworlds.com/help/aw34/firewall.html
http://www.activeworlds.com/help/aw34/debug_log.html

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Jul 16, 2003, 4:11pm

LOL!
They are actually encourage us to commit a crime, is that not illegal also?

Drac
ananas <ananas at oct31.de> kirjoitti
viestissä:3f1594a6 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> An even better example :
>
> http://www.activeworlds.com/help/uniserver_access.html
>
> They _ENCOURAGE_ you
>
> <quote>
>
> To customize your browser, add the following two lines to the top of the
aworld.ini file:
>
> [universe]
> host=domain name or IP address of the UniServer machine
>
> </quote>
>
> You see that the telegram is plain nonsense.
>
>
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Jul 16, 2003, 4:11pm

That's the uniserver ini, not the aworld ini.

But here is one.. http://www.activeworlds.com/help/aw34/debug_log.html

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