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sw chris // User Search
sw chris // User Search
Dec 22, 2001, 1:16am
There was a kid like that in my kindergarten class... And he's still doing
it in a figurative sort of way, a la Eep. Interesting how that behavior
manifests itself in different ways later on in life, no?
Eep's an old scrooge, and I'm not surprised to see that a lot of people are
just as happy with him out of here. He's made some good points before, but
they don't justify his rude behavior. I'm not saying he has to act like an
English gentleman, but he should at least treat others with some civility.
Good riddance. hmph.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"moff piett" <baronjutter at shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:3c23909d at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> That matches my opinions fairly closely. A lot of people bitch about if
the
> rules are fair or not, that totaly doesn't matter. It is someone else's
> rules, and if they say, "you must end your post with a 10x10 jpeg of a
> bannana or you will be banned from the NG" then it's their right to ban
you
> if you don't post said bannana.
>
> Sadly it isn't about training. People like Eep and "generic GZ tourist
> flooding at gz" don't do anything out of ignorance, they do it for fun.
To
> use your example, they are like the child that is fully potty trained,
but
> has a social disorder that makes him like to smear his shit all over the
> walls. And even if you're like Eep and sometimes have something
interesting
> to say, there's no excuse writing it by hand painting with your own fecies
> on clean walls of our NG's.
>
> That seems to be another big excuse by people. They'll say "well I was
just
> saying XXXXX about XXXX nothing wrong about that, what you can't handle
an
> opinion?" Well yes we can handle an opinion, just don't use poo to write
> it.
>
>
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Dec 22, 2001, 1:25am
My, how the tides have turned. ;P
--
SW Chris
Eagle Scout, Philosopher, Peacemaker, and... Kung Fu Master?
http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html
Dec 22, 2001, 1:27am
My god... he's gotten around. lol. You can definitely tell it's him. ^_^
SW Chris
[View Quote]"ananas" <vha at oct31.de> wrote in message news:3C236983.C47991CC at oct31.de...
> If you really need flames and bad behaviour :
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=author:eep
>
> This should keep you happy till christmas.
>
>
> sinew wrote:
to
>
> --
> "_
> |
> /\
> \ /
> __/ /_
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Dec 22, 2001, 1:23am
This is exactly the sort of thing that needs to stop right now. The
community newsgroup shouldn't just be about posting announcements and
diatribes. It's about community building.
The days of self-policing this newsgroup should have been long gone by now.
Whining's not going to stop it, and if there's a post un-related to the
community, ignore it and Flagg will take care of it. That's what he's there
for.
I'm going to say this once and never bring it up again. So be thankful. :)
The general discussion newsgroup has done more for the folks of the
community who visit these newsgroups by providing a place to just vent and
talk about anything than this 'community' forum ever has.
Just my two wuipuipi.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"nornny11" <Nornny1 at attbi.com> wrote in message
news:3c23a5e4$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Bleh, for what? Self gratification? Didn't anyone ever teach their kids to
> be modest? I don't think I've bragged about any of my life changing
> experiences except learning how to potty (ironic that every thread centers
> around the toilet) when I was a kid, and even then, I got quite a beating
> from my parents to shove it in my brother's face. heh. Oops, kinda bragged
> right there, but I'm trying to keep to a point here, if you're going to
post
> off topic in a newsgroup (which is sorta rude and totally inept,
especially
> if you make 4 other posts saying you're going to cancel it), at least have
> the courtesy to spam us rather than show off about a recreational sport.
I'm
> sure you got a nice trophy from the alley and balloons fall from the
ceiling
> (at least they do at the alley I go to, so I'm just assuming), so isn't
that
> enough? Must you tell the whole community of bad bowlers (good posters
> however)? Think before you speak, please, and know how to speak (in a
> newsgroup sense). :))
>
> Nornny
>
> "brant" <awteen at shoemakervillage.org> wrote in message
> news:3c233bda$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> know,
who
>
>
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Jan 11, 2002, 5:15pm
Well, looking on AW's side of things, this thing's geared specifically to
gamers and I imagine it'll be advertised as such. AW is well.. ok what
does it advertise to?
SW Chris
[View Quote]"canopus" <canopus-aek2 at email.msn.com> wrote in message
news:3c3e92ec$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Well, now it's after January 3, 2002, and yes, the activeworlds.com
website
> says that new citizenships cost $114 per year. Like most other people
here,
> I wonder if existing citizens won't soon have to pay the same $114 per
year
> after their current citizenships run out.
>
> $114 per year is what people are paying to go online and meet with friends
> in virtual worlds, plus interact with hundreds of virtual people (animals,
> monsters, imaginary beings) and experience those worlds like a character
in
> a story. Here in Activeworlds, we can go online and meet with friends in
> virtual worlds, but the only adventure we can have is that of building.
> Millions of people are paying $114 per year to take part in virtual
stories.
> I don't think very many will pay $114 per year just to be able to build.
>
> In a couple of months, Neverwinter Nights will be on sale. It too lets
> people go online and meet with friends in virtual worlds, plus interact
with
> hundreds of virtual people (animals, monsters, imaginary beings) and
> experience worlds as one were a character in a story. But it is doing
> something radically new and exciting: once you fork over the initial $49,
> you can visit the imaginary online worlds of NeverwinterNights for FREE.
And
> I said WORLDS, not world, because the NeverwinterNights box includes not
> only an example world you can adventure in, it includes a TOOLSET that
lets
> you build, populate, and script your own world. The game's producers,
> Bioware, plan to make their money later by selling additional objects and
> avatars, not by charging you to visit the worlds you make with them. How
> does ActiveWorlds plan to compete with this?
>
> Sometimes AW fans say "but I don't want to play a game, I just want to
build
> an imaginary world and relax in it, meeting friends there". Exactly:
> repeatedly killing monsters bores me, too. So I'm going to use
> NeverwinterNights' toolset to build a world where I can relax with my
online
> friends, and a lot of scripted imaginary people, just to make the
background
> complete. All that for an initial $49, nothing more, except to hook my
world
> server into the NeverwinterNights network--which is also FREE.
>
> I truly don't see how ActiveWorlds is going to compete with this, even if
we
> longtime citizens don't have to pay $114 a year. And if we do,
ActiveWorlds
> should consider giving every citizen that pays the $114 a P-50 WorldServer
> with 10 users and 3 citizenships. Then at least we might be tempted to
stay
> around for the privilege of online building.
>
> {You can read about Neverwinter Nights at http://www.neverwinternights.com
> the official site. There are some independent previews and lots of
> screenshots at
> http://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters/products/0,11114,188666,00.html }
>
> "icey" <icey at altavista.net> wrote in message
> news:3C335CA5.2010700 at altavista.net...
>
>
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Jan 3, 2002, 12:39am
That is one of the most intelligent things I've heard about this yet. The
only thing I'd disagree with you on is that at this juncture and this
economy, AW Corp may not be able to afford any mistakes.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"lilalpha phalpha" <lilalpha_aw at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3c33a014 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> My opinion is to trust in AWCOM in this matter becuase they have the
figures
> and we don't. If in a few months they discover they are wrong they might
> lower the prices instead of shutting down due to lack of user growth(and
> more income.) I am no expert in financial matters and I am only in the 9th
> grade. Sure AW will probably lose alot of it's valuable citizens over
this,
> but thats thier problem right? If they WANT to keep thier current citizens
> AND get new ones, they WILL lower thier prices if this dosent work out. IF
> they don't it could be the end of it anyways. So I believe it is best to
> leave this up to the people at AWCOM who know what they are talking about,
> who have all the facts, and are trying to save thier own jobs, all the
while
> trying to keep us happy. I think we're just making it worse by bickering
of
> this, i would think it would be a tough thing to balance for them... If
they
> run out of money...there is no more AW for us, If we all leave due to
> excessive prices, then they run outof money anyways. Let them make thier
own
> mistakes and learn from them, after all it's also thier future they are
> dealing with not just ours. Grow up people, you can't have everything.
>
> LilAlpha Phalpha
>
>
>
>
>
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Jan 3, 2002, 3:59am
I'd like to know where you got that prediction from.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"bowen" <bowen at omegauniverse.com> wrote in message
news:3c33e2ae$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> AW has in fact a lot of reserves. :) Not only that they shouldn't be
paying
> an increase in anything or charging, there's no need to. They could
> probably generate profits for another 3 or 4 years. Before they'd need to
> raise it a little, but 600% is too much for the surplus they currently
have.
> Their analyst doesn't seem to know too much about economies..
>
> --Bowen--
>
> "macb" <Z at X.Y> wrote in message news:3C33DFFC.1000600 at X.Y...
>
>
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Jan 3, 2002, 8:05pm
Decreasing spending means decreasing the features in future versions of AW
3.3 and beyond. Less programmers to make more updates, and all that.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"bowen" <bowen at omegauniverse.com> wrote in message
news:3c345059$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Common sense from this:
>
> http://biz.yahoo.com/e/011114/awldw.html
>
> it's pretty obvious they have quite a bit of money and are no where near
the
> "hole" yet. Decrease spending and cut salaries if you're having trouble..
> that's what should be done first.
>
> --Bowen--
>
> "sw chris" <chris at skywalkeronline.net> wrote in message
> news:3c33f334 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
need
> to
> for
> in
left
> final
predicted
> a
to
one
they
will
> be
needed,
head
idea.
up
those
>
>
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Jan 3, 2002, 3:54am
Let me tell of a tale 'bout a man named George..
Rich beyond his years, he taxed to death the poor
Then one day he raised his taxes through the roof
And over in the States came a bubblin feud.
(Revolt, that is, no taxation, without representation)
Well, the first thing you know the armies was drawin near
Colonists said, George, get the heck outta here.
Said, London is the place your armies oughta be
So they loaded up the rifles and sent them back to Britainy.
Well, now it's time to say goodbye, to George and all his friends
They would like to thank you folks for the lot o' dividends
This'll never be a British Commonwealth again.
Say hello to the United States, a new country for free men.
(Declaration, that is, of independence, and liberty).
Y'all come back now, hear?
--
Moral of this story. This business plan's going to kill AW in the same
amount of time leaving the pricing alone will. Alternative solution: Kill
the 3D homepage program, sell the excess bandwidth, and cut all
non-essential jobs, and I'm certain Mr. Noll and Mr. McCormick and other
staff members can take a salary cut. Then if there's still not enough to
pay off your debts, raise the renewal prices a few dollars, but not so much
that a lot of folks can't afford it.
SW Chris
Jan 3, 2002, 5:07am
Ugh.. Ok I'm retracting this. It's a fun read but I think Facter convinced
me to hang in there. If Rick knows what he's doing, then this is all a very
small part of a last-ditch effort to save AW! Just wait and you'll see.
It's got about a 50/50 chance of happening I gather, so hope and pray that
it does.
Rick and everyone else... whatever this plan of yours is, it better work.
The best of luck to all of you. Go get em!
SW Chris
[View Quote]"sw chris" <chris at skywalkeronline.net> wrote in message
news:3c33f233 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Let me tell of a tale 'bout a man named George..
> Rich beyond his years, he taxed to death the poor
> Then one day he raised his taxes through the roof
> And over in the States came a bubblin feud.
> (Revolt, that is, no taxation, without representation)
>
> Well, the first thing you know the armies was drawin near
> Colonists said, George, get the heck outta here.
> Said, London is the place your armies oughta be
> So they loaded up the rifles and sent them back to Britainy.
>
> Well, now it's time to say goodbye, to George and all his friends
> They would like to thank you folks for the lot o' dividends
> This'll never be a British Commonwealth again.
> Say hello to the United States, a new country for free men.
> (Declaration, that is, of independence, and liberty).
>
> Y'all come back now, hear?
>
> --
> Moral of this story. This business plan's going to kill AW in the same
> amount of time leaving the pricing alone will. Alternative solution:
Kill
> the 3D homepage program, sell the excess bandwidth, and cut all
> non-essential jobs, and I'm certain Mr. Noll and Mr. McCormick and other
> staff members can take a salary cut. Then if there's still not enough to
> pay off your debts, raise the renewal prices a few dollars, but not so
much
> that a lot of folks can't afford it.
>
> SW Chris
>
>
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Jan 3, 2002, 5:09pm
mojobones, you're an idiot, plain and simple. Your opinion is your opinion,
but my opinion of your opinion is that you jumped to conclusions. Go and
look at all the facts for yourself instead of listening to the GZ'ers. THEN
come back and tell us that.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"mojobones" <mojobones at ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:3c347d9f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> "facter" <facter at activeworlds.com> wrote in message
> news:3c34293a at server1.Activeworlds.com...
no
> plans
>
>
> Sounds just like Boss Hogg from The Dukes of Hazzard! LOL Every Friday
> night he was up to no good. Taking money from the innocent town folks and
he
> was always messing with those sweet Duke boys & poor old Uncle Jessie & I
do
> believe he wanted to get his greedy little hands on that sizzlin' Daisy
Duke
> a time or two if I remember correctly.
>
> Oh, yeah! Good old Boss Hogg! One thing you could count on with him
> though.....he always had a plan! But I do remember this.... I never saw a
> single one of his plans work in his favor. Probably because he was always
so
> concerned about his wants and his needs that he would always forget to
tell
> Roscoe P. Coltrain exactly what needed to be done to make the plan work.
>
> What a great television program that was. And I never thought for once
that
> it would teach me a lesson about life. Definately ahead of it's time! YEE
> HAW!!!
>
> Pigs get fed.......but "Hogg"s get slaughtered! :o)
>
> Cast:
> Boss Hogg - Rick Noll
> Roscoe P. Coltrain - AW Community
> Bo Duke - "Tourist1"
> Luke Duke - "Tourist2"
> Daisy Duke - "Tourist3"
> Uncle Jesse - "Tourist4"
>
> "Emmy bound",
> MoJoBoNeS
>
>
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Jan 3, 2002, 8:04pm
Having a longer notice wouldn't have helped things. But then again, who's
to say it would have made things worse?
SW Chris
[View Quote]"dotar sojat" <barsoom at my.activeworlds.com> wrote in message
news:3C34B329.5C660681 at my.activeworlds.com...
> After sleeping on the matter (not easy to do with the flu), I have decided
I
> will ride it all out as long as my most recently purchased citizenship
last.
> BUT, I must express extreme displeasure at the un-professional method of
> announcing this pricing change. If they had this plan worked up months ago
as
> some of those "in the know" claim, we should have had more than a 24 hour
> notice.
>
> facter wrote:
>
a
see.
that
work.
them.
time I
will do
want to
>
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Jan 3, 2002, 7:57pm
It says nothing in there about deleting current non-renewed citizens.
Please, if you're not sure what it means, don't add fuel to the fire.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"brant" <awteen at shoemakervillage.org> wrote in message
news:3c34adb1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I didn't know what to think about this plan before, but I read the
> "citizenship cancellation" help page now, and look what's written there:
>
> "If you change your mind and would like to renew your citizenship, you may
> do so for up to 30 days after cancellation. After 30 days, your citizen ID
> and any properties built with that ID will be permanently deleted."
>
> I guess that means Roland is going to purge the AlphaWorld database
> periodically, which is bad news for all the historic buildings that people
> have worked so hard on. Better back up AW's history now.
>
> Perhaps I'm just misinterpreting this statement - can anyone clarify this?
>
>
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Jan 3, 2002, 8:00pm
They aren't going to delete the current non-renewed citizens builds. It
doesn't say anything about that. Now go reexamine that statement.
Now, about future non-renewables... where does that leave SW City? There'll
be empty lots everywhere.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"butterfly jess" <wing at systemrecall.com> wrote in message
news:3c34c1e6 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> WTF? All my work in AW, gone for future generations. Such a waste it has
> been, as those of us that will leave won't even be allowed to leave a
> legacy. But such is the way of the worlds, not only is a very lonely place
> on the horizon, but now a very empty one too. If anyone would be willing
to
> pursue a TOTAL propdump of Alphaworld, I suggest you start now, regardless
> of AWC's approval or assistance - it'll take awhile.
>
> Perhaps if AWC has a place left for those that care, they'll allow a
select
> one or two universes to have a copy of a recent backup of the Alphaworld
> database, but I doubt it'll happen.
>
> "brant" <awteen at shoemakervillage.org> wrote in message
> news:3c34adb1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
may
ID
people
this?
>
>
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Jan 3, 2002, 9:35pm
That's the best answer I've heard yet.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"goober king" <rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu> wrote in message
news:3C34E683.1020206 at acsu.buffalo.edu...
> If I read that correctly, all it means is if you get a new citship and
> then cancel it before you have to start paying, then everything you've
> built with that citship will get deleted after 30 days. But if you
> cancel after you start paying, then you don't have to worry about
anything.
>
> At least, I *hope* that's what it means...
>
> brant wrote:
>
may
ID
people
this?
>
>
> --
> Goober King
> They couldn't possibly be *that* stupid.... could they?!
> rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu
>
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Jan 3, 2002, 9:32pm
Woe to ye who is so tragic. This community's not dead yet, and it won't be
unless talk like that prevails. Just because some folks will leave doesn't
mean the community is dead and a new one will take its place.
A community is ever-changing. One expands and shrinks as time goes on. The
same people don't make up a community. If that were to happen, it wouldn't
be a community but a group of like-minded people. A community without
change dies. The change I'm talking about is not the price hikes, but the
new faces that will come into this community and the old faces that will
leave.
Everyone here has a choice. Stay and make the best of a seemingly bad
situation and make that situation better, or just leave. If you leave
because _you_ want to, then cya around. Do what you think is right for you.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"nornny11" <Nornny1 at attbi.com> wrote in message
news:3c34de7a$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> If I looked at the community newsgroup a month ago, and look at it now, I
> must say I would be quite proud of your achievements. ;) It's like
September
> 11th happened a few months late in here, but I've noticed the community
> newsgroup is quite the community. ;)
>
> Now, bear with me here, and breathe. Yeah, it might be the end of the
world
> as we know it (*pauses and mentally sings the awesome Ramones song*), oh
> yeah, where was I. A short time ago, you were all bickering and flaming
each
> other over HTML and off topicness, and now, it doesn't even matter. I've
> never seen as minimal of swearing as I do in the 400 threads with 500
> replies you all have made in about one and a half days (although it's a
> bother to read). Why did it take such a "tragedy" to have this happen?
Hmm?
> Well, I'm glad it did either way, because it's somewhat enjoyable here. I
> say, quit worrying about other people's business and enjoy your own before
> it's too late.
>
> There will be an entirely new community in less than a year, no doubt. A
lot
> of us aren't sticking around, and for the many that are, they'll be
greeted
> with brand new wide-eyed newbie faces (and rich eyes too I might add). Why
> doesn't someone find Alphabit and get in a quickly planned Cy gala, or
> someone make Festival? it's time for us as a community to bring out the
best
> of ourselves, because sooner or later, this community will die, just as it
> did when they first started charging for AW (it was once free, remember)
and
> a new one emerged with new people. In short, y'all better get yer 120
> dollars worth in 20 dollars. ;)
>
> But I must say, it makes perfect sense why they kicked out Eep just a week
> or two back. ;)) It'd be a one man war waiting to happen. tee hee.
Although,
> I'm kinda wishing for his gut wrenching opinion right now...
>
> Nornny
>
>
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Jan 10, 2002, 4:27pm
Refresh your cache and the wood21 will show up as a different texture. I
sent support an e-mail asking if the original was accidentally overwritten.
Hopefully I'll hear back soon. :)
SW Chris
p.s. Dont' jump to conclusions.
[View Quote]"blasto" <GovDion at subdimension.com> wrote in message
news:3c3dbcb1$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Jeesh, I looked at it first and I was like "Holy shit! They made it
> bigger?!"
> "holistic1" <tkafader at southstar.org> wrote in message
> news:3C3DDF6E.4D7D9C59 at southstar.org...
> put back
> tile5
> located at
want
> to check
>
>
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Jan 10, 2002, 1:57am
Did I miss something??? What stone texture are you talking about because I
haven't noticed any getting changed. Maybe I immigrated a little too late
to see it though. :)
SW Chris
[View Quote]"sinew" <citizenaw at hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3c3ce573 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> If the company is serious enough to spend time, money, etc. getting new
> objects, textures, models to us, they should be just as serious about
> maintaining the original ones. It's dead wrong to change out the textures
> on existing models. Forget the bull about spiffying it up to show off to
> corporate suits at gz. Artists do not like for their work to be changed,
a
> stone texture without grooves was what I, the artist, intended for my roof
> and that's the way it should stay. My roof looks like a big tire track
now.
> Good grief, talk about getting run over! Please change the textures back
to
> the original.
>
> kellee <kellee at my.activeworlds.com> wrote in message
> news:3c3bd380 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> called
> elsewhere)
builds.
> to
> said
> mutilation
> dead
>
>
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Jan 10, 2002, 4:27pm
Some of the textures may have been accidentally overwritten when the new
object set was uploaded? I'm not sure. We'll know soon though.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"donna" <awedonna at hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3c3d89f7 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I made a memorial for my mom who passed away sept 24th of 01 at 32658.9S
> 9478.2E 1.1a 358 in aw, her memorial is the centerpiece of the city, the
> gazebo was done using tile5 ( a pretty blue texture) with her picture
in
> the water at the base.......My mother would have loved it. I went there
> just a bit ago......... it is black and white ugly stripes
> :((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( please put back
> the tile 5 i used wheni made it. it is very upsetting to me to see
it
> this way. It is unkind to change the texture in my opinion.. you have
no
> idea just how upsetting this is to me. I do NOT curse.. but i did
when
> i saw this!!!!!! AWER for 4 years please please please
put
> the pretty blue tile 5 back
> Donna
> i posted this elsewhere but i think we may be talking about
> the very very same texture
> :(((((((
>
> "sw chris" <chris at skywalkeronline.net> wrote in message
> news:3c3d1143 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
because
> I
late
new
> textures
> to
> changed,
> roof
track
> back
> used
just
> a
Factor
> the
> dear,
>
>
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Jan 10, 2002, 2:02am
Lioness is right in her actions, guys. There is a small category of people
who won't be able to pay because they simply can't. Not because they don't
want to. Sympathize with them and don't make them out to be the bad guys.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"blasto" <GovDion at subdimension.com> wrote in message
news:3c3c6896$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I don't think petitions help too much! AW just looks at them and says
"Holy
> shit, look at all these people so nuts about AW that they'll make a
> petition... how many of those are willing to shovel out more dough?!"
>
> If you are petitioning, it just shows that you love AW enough to spend
your
> time doing that - and possibly love AW enough to pay more than you really
> want to pay. Sure, you want the prices to drop to $30 or $40 a year, but
> honestly, I think there will be a lot of people who said they were going
to
> leave and find it extremely hard to let go, and so they won't. They'll
fork
> out the dough.
>
> I don't like this extra $$ thing iether, but I'm not going around
> petitioning all day and yelling that AWCom sucks and crap. I'm not
addicted,
> I don't go to AW every waking hour like many of you do. (notice I didn't
say
> all of you so don't start beating me into the ground for that statement)
> Sure, they raise the prices. *shrug* I can't pay that kind of money, I'm
> only 14 years old, I don't even have a job! I make a little over $400 a
year
> from allowance and that is it. But I'm not pouting about this.
>
> Your best chances are to forget about it and enjoy AW while you still can!
> The more time you spend petitioning, the more AWC is apt to leave it at
$120
> a year, where they believe you will all pay because you're addicted or
> because you just love AW so much. I mean, that's why you're petitioning,
> right?
> "lioness o" <nobody at nowhere.net> wrote in message
> news:3c3c33a5 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
nearly
> AWC
> emails
the
> done
> now
over
If
is
> so
> And
can't
> and
> single
> affects
AW's
> am
pricing
will
> for
> events
>
>
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Jan 10, 2002, 4:29pm
True, SWE. :) But don't expect such a drastic change between the new
citizen subscriptions and renewal subscriptions.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"swe" <m_swehli at hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3c3d7169 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> But the thing is the new prices for renewal arent out yet,and everyones
> already complaining! Maybe they should wait and see how much they are
going
> to be charged before complaining.
>
> SWE
>
> "sw chris" <chris at skywalkeronline.net> wrote in message
> news:3c3d1240 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> people
> don't
guys.
> really
but
going
didn't
statement)
I'm
a
> can!
at
petitioning,
> can
> This
messages
> on
> and
> from
yet.
to
> have
> but
proposal.
AW
> bound.
19.95
> a
> few
> bots
in
low.
> I
know
> I
> renewal
guys
> low
comes
>
>
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Jan 10, 2002, 2:03am
what citizenships did they remove? If perchance you're talking about
TheTraveler's cit... he was running an illegally hacked uniserver.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"data21" <dbmiller at kiski.net> wrote in message
news:3c3ceba3 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> 1st the remove tourists, then they kick all users of the 2.2 browser out,
> now they are removing citizenships for no reason LOL.
>
>
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Jan 10, 2002, 2:06am
Radon lives! O_O
SW Chris
[View Quote]"facter" <facter at activeworlds.com> wrote in message
news:3c3cf5f1$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
> my
> also.
>
> You ran someones bot/program and it took your passwords.
>
> F.
>
>
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Jan 10, 2002, 2:08am
hmm... I can't cancel this message using Message>Cancel Message. Is there
another way?
SW Chris
[View Quote]"sw chris" <chris at skywalkeronline.net> wrote in message
news:3c3d128b at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> what citizenships did they remove? If perchance you're talking about
> TheTraveler's cit... he was running an illegally hacked uniserver.
>
> SW Chris
>
> "data21" <dbmiller at kiski.net> wrote in message
> news:3c3ceba3 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
out,
>
>
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Jan 10, 2002, 2:11am
:(
SW Chris
[View Quote]"wings0nite" <Irene at ilschaft.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.16a6ad785c03f7eb98968f at news.activeworlds.com...
> Hello all -
>
> I am posting this after a lot of soul searching. I am the owner of the
> build world called NOVA which has been in existence for 4 years. It comes
> up for renewal in March. It is a world that goes to 90 meters in all
> directions, therefore my renewal fee is quite steep ($840 American
> dollars).
>
> Until the deletion of the tourists and the recent "new plan" of the
> management of AW, I had every intension of renewing NOVA in March. I am
> not really sure that I can do it now and still feel confident that I will
> get my year's worth of NOVA's existence. In other words, I am afraid that
> the decision regarding tourists will ultimately bankrupt AW. I would
> NEVER agree to give out my credit card number to try out a program that I
> have never seen. Sorry but it is reality... :(
>
> I have worked for companies that have gone under and it is a sad thing to
> see. It is particularly sad if you are a part of that company (in this
> case, community) for many years as I have been. If it were only the
> citizenship price increase that we were talking about I would gladly give
> AW $10/month to enjoy their wonderful program. I know many of you cannot
> afford that but fortunately I can and my decision would be to stay with
> it and see what happens. I have an $840 decision to make in regards to my
> world. I don't want to be a fool, renew my world, and find myself in a
> long line of creditors that will get NOTHING when AW folds. NOVA has
> never been about me, btw. It has existed from its beginnings as a
> builder's world. I have personally spent many hours working on making it
> what it is, and I have felt very good about helping the community in this
> way. As I write this, I feel very saddened and disappointed. NOVA's
> object world, Implode was just renewed in December before the "big bang"
> as I call it so it is "good to go" for those World owners using my path.
>
> I have always been an active member of the AW community. I serve on the
> CY committee and was one of the founders of the group, WOW (Women Owning
> Worlds). I have probably bought (or given away) no less than 20
> citizenships to tourists over the years when I have seen potential in
> them and a love of AW. NOVA has always been open to tourist building.
> Obviously I will no longer be able to give away citizenships with the new
> price increase and am writing this message to warn my builders about a
> possible closure of NOVA in March.
>
> I want to give all my past and present builders (yes, I have builds on
> NOVA that date back to 1998) the chance to come into NOVA and copy their
> artwork aka builds by bot. You may use your bot or a friend's bot, but
> please just let me know which citizen number I need to add to allow the
> bot into NOVA. You can email me or telegram me online.
>
> I would like to thank all the wonderful helpers I have had on NOVA over
> the years and you know who you are :) This is not saying I am definitely
> closing NOVA it is just a warning that I may have to. If AW does not
> change their tourist policy and things remain as have been the last week
> or so I will not be renewing my world.
>
> I will be calling AW either tomorrow or Friday with my idea for tourists
> and hopefully it will help. It may mean some rewrite of the program but I
> think tourists should be able to log on as a trial citizen for a month
> (no prior credit card, etc) but they would NOT have the right to build. I
> think that any tourist that likes the program would want to build and as
> I said above $10/mo is not that horrible a price to pay for a program
> like AW. After 30 days they would not be able to log back on.
>
> Meanwhile I go back to my world to break the news at ground zero. BTW
> anyone that likes to build and just wants a lot to play around with the
> new commands, etc contact me and I will give you a lot on NOVA to play
> in.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Irene Schaft aka Wings0nite and WingsOnite and ECOL
>
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Jan 10, 2002, 4:32pm
Not to nitpick or anything, but when a few people show disrespect for the
company that gave us the software, by starting up illegal universes or
migrating to them and all that jazz, what else can AW do but threaten to
take legal action?
SW Chris
[View Quote]"malka" <pagancities at pagancities.com> wrote in message
news:3c3d413f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> To the AW community:
>
> It saddens me greatly to see Nova go. I was one of the lucky recipients
of
> the generosity of Wings.. Without her help and support I doubt I would
have
> been here long.. but thanks to her... I also purchased my own world.
>
> Braendon isn't a huge world. It only goes to 40 in all directions.. but it
> also costs me a fair bit of money.. at least it is a lot for me.
>
> I love this place! I love Nova.. (my first build in AW is there) and, of
> course, I love my own world and cry inside every time I have to face the
> realities of the past few weeks. It breaks my heart to watch all this
> unfold. Nevertheless, I must agree with Wings.. I cannot justify paying
to
> renew Braendon given the current situation.
>
> Unfortunately, unlike Wings.. I cannot afford the new increase. I had
just
> renewed my citizenship before the 'big bang' (good term for this Wings)
and
> can be here in AW for another year ... but I don't know that I will... so
> much has been lost now.. and there are so many hard feelings..
>
> The actions of AW have broken my heart and dreams. I miss the tourists..
> the life blood of any on line community is the NEW blood. This move kills
> that IMHO. I also disapprove of the manner in which AW has acted. I know
> they are a company.. but I also know that they are people that WERE a part
> of this community.. until they betrayed us and acted more like a
corporate
> giant squashing insignificants than the visionaries I had fashioned them
to
> be.
>
> I am thoroughly disappointed with your choices AW, and even more disgusted
> with the WAY you did all this. Threats.. booting users and universes
even!
> WE ARE AW..!!! You may have invented it.. but if no one stays you have
> failed. You have showed us all a great disrespect and you are
> systematically destroying yourselves as well.
>
> Braendon will most likely follow suit with Nova.
> With sincere sadness and regret... I cannot remain... not unless AW
comes
> to its senses and proposes a VIABLE alternative!
>
> Malka aka Malka DeLila aka Cherie Jenkins
> Owner of Braendon
>
> "wings0nite" <Irene at ilschaft.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.16a6ad785c03f7eb98968f at news.activeworlds.com...
comes
will
that
I
to
give
my
this
new
I
I
>
>
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Jan 10, 2002, 4:35pm
Yes, well, the Eep's of the world would have disapproved with that. If I
recall, there was significant opposition to Junodome. Even that word is
somewhat derogatory in AWspeak. :) Can't please everyone all the time.
AWC can still pull out of their financial troubles. They're not dead yet.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"wings0nite" <Irene at ilschaft.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.16a6e36259e074ea989690 at news.activeworlds.com...
> Ohhh I forgot to mention something ... AOL HELL understands marketing.
> It is a pity that AW does not follow some of AOL's ideas. Sending out
> coasters (err CD's) is not a bad move :-) Having free AW CD's with 1
> month free (or 1000 hours as AOL advertises) is not a bad idea... just
> ask Steve Case how much of a salary raise he has received because of
> AOL's tremendous growth?!
>
> AW has never marketed their product correctly. Granted AOLHell appeals to
> the newbies to computers but AW should follow the same action plan and
> appeal to newbies to chat. When Aw made the deal with Juno I hoped they
> were on the right track, apparently NOT :((
>
> Wings
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Jan 10, 2002, 11:15pm
the world loki reminds me of something else that was said in here about a
stolen cit.. via password stealing, I think? Except in that case the new
citizen's name was Loki 1.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"bowen" <bowen at omegauniverse.com> wrote in message
news:3c3df544$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> They could've had the name changed. In which case, how can they reclaim
it?
> It was given to you. If you give something to someone it automatically
> becomes theirs. ;) like I give you $20, that's yours to spend isn't it?
>
> --Bowen--
>
> "data21" <dbmiller at kiski.net> wrote in message
> news:3c3df4e6 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
the
> doing
> and
> me
> that,
to
> they
not
start
someone
the
who
> is
it
warnings
number
it
>
>
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Jan 15, 2002, 3:19am
If they lied to you, sue them. If it was a mistake, then you'll find out in
court.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"data21" <dbmiller at kiski.net> wrote in message
news:3c43835f at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> well if you would READ it ALL you will see that I could not send money
into
> it, AW lied 2 times about it not being under any worlds, and they did not
> know who was paying for it. Therefor there was no reason really to pay for
> it. Its AW fault for lying to me twice.
> Now all of a sudden they say its under a world hmm interesting how things
> change when things go wrong :-/
>
>
>
> "pc hamster" <pchamster at msn.com> wrote in message
> news:3c436db6$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> the
> EXACTLY
$$$
> even
the
> ALL
by
> any
ANY
also
>
>
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Jan 15, 2002, 4:08pm
It was a figure of speech. I was talking about what Goober King elaborated
on.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"lioness o" <nobody at nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:3c4417c5 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Sue em??? Think bout this for a minute. There is no money lost here. Data
> didn't pay anything. But he would have to pay court costs. Is it worth all
> the stress and trouble just to get the boy's rights back??? Until somebody
> could get the courts to understand what he is trying to fight for, we're
> talking a very long time and a lot of money for attorney retainer fees,
etc.
> What it would probably boil down to in the court's eyes is something
called
> "creative rights" because basically that's what it is since Data needs his
> rights returned so he can get his building privs back. In the court's
eyes,
> AW would be considered a "Bryce" type of program with a chat. The judge
> might even think it would be a waste of time and paperwork to pursue
> something of this nature.
>
>
>
>
> "sw chris" <chris at skywalkeronline.net> wrote in message
> news:3c43bbdf at server1.Activeworlds.com...
out
> in
> not
> for
> things
> possible
NO
(although
I
get
OWN
> IT
wound
> (or
of
I
>
>
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