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Eep Banned/Fix 3.2 Please // CommunitysinewDec 21, 2001, 1:24pm
Eep is banned from the NG's and is tired of 3.2 bugs.
What will it take to get Eep back on the NG's so he can post? I'd like to see him be able to post before Christmas. I agree about the 3.2 bugs. It's a real irritation-enough that I took it off of my computer. What can we do so that Active Worlds will release an update that fixes some of the major issues? (How many of you are still using 3.1, I'm curious.) brantDec 21, 2001, 2:44pm
Come on, you can't seriously want Eep to come back to the newsgroups, do
you? All he did was make fun of posts on just about any topic and put down newbies. I had thought that he was still posting here as I filtered him months ago because of his obnoxious attitude. A few months back, there was a big stink where Flagg tried to get rid of Eep and some people for some reason or another wanted him to stay. I find it ironic that he would eventually get fed up with bugs and leave when he stated earlier that he wanted nothing to improve AW (by making it more like a game, in his opinion). [View Quote] wizard myrddinDec 21, 2001, 2:52pm
I think you share what some people feel there Brant, I have noticed over the
month in the Newsgroups good discusions and a lack of obnoxious foul words and attacks of newbies. Personally I think the newsgroups are a better place now. As you will no dought agree people are now starting to post some good threads without fear of being ridiculed and made a subject of attacks from a foul mouth. [View Quote] linnDec 21, 2001, 2:56pm
ananasDec 21, 2001, 3:04pm
If you really need flames and bad behaviour :
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=author:eep This should keep you happy till christmas. [View Quote] -- "_ | /\ \ / __/ /_ shred no@1.invalidDec 21, 2001, 4:54pm
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> Come on, you can't seriously want Eep to come back to the newsgroups, do
> you? All he did was make fun of posts on just about any topic and put down > newbies. I had thought that he was still posting here as I filtered him > months ago because of his obnoxious attitude. > > A few months back, there was a big stink where Flagg tried to get rid of Eep > and some people for some reason or another wanted him to stay. I find it > ironic that he would eventually get fed up with bugs and leave when he > stated earlier that he wanted nothing to improve AW (by making it more like > a game, in his opinion). Actually, Facter was the one to hold the EepVote. I'm not trying to be an ass here, just trying to keep Flagg's image right :) -- Shred linnDec 21, 2001, 5:52pm
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------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C18A27.77853220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable eep? is that you? ROFLMAO [View Quote] [View Quote] If you really need flames and bad behaviour :=20 http://groups.google.com/groups?q=3Dauthor:eep=20 This should keep you happy till christmas.=20 [View Quote] --=20 "_=20 |=20 /\=20 \ /=20 __/ /_ --=20 Tyrell - Alpha Prime - 21.8s 457e 90 - "Mundus vult decipi"=20 "Eat well, stay fit, die anyway."=20 http://www3.sk.sympatico.ca/ty1/index.html=20 ICQ UN - 272905=20 All those who believe in psychokinesis raise my hand.=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C18A27.77853220 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>eep? is that you? ROFLMAO</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV>"tyrell" <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:tyrell1 at sk.sympatico.ca">tyrell1 at sk.sympatico.ca</A>> = wrote in=20 message <A=20 = href=3D"news:3C2384B8.A5E298D4 at sk.sympatico.ca">news:3C2384B8.A5E298D4 at sk= ..sympatico.ca</A>...</DIV>Ha...=20 It really is true... The Internet has made it possible to 'taste the = flavour'=20 (and yes, that's the correct spelling of 'flavour'... I speak English, = not=20 American... :-) ) of all corners of the Globe...=20 <P>The world has been reduced to a global village and we can all = benefit from=20 the Literary Prose of the 'Village Idiot'... :-)=20 [View Quote] <P>This should keep you happy till christmas.=20 [View Quote] <BR> /\ <BR> \ / <BR>__/ = /_</P></BLOCKQUOTE> <P>-- <BR>Tyrell - Alpha Prime - 21.8s 457e 90 - "Mundus vult decipi" = <BR>"Eat=20 well, stay fit, die anyway." <BR><A=20 = href=3D"http://www3.sk.sympatico.ca/ty1/index.html">http://www3.sk.sympat= ico.ca/ty1/index.html</A>=20 <BR>ICQ UN - 272905 <BR>All those who believe in psychokinesis raise = my hand.=20 <BR> </P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C18A27.77853220-- andrasDec 21, 2001, 7:22pm
No - but I can take his place:) Don't post in HTML please - your single line reply took 114 lines :(
Andras nornny11Dec 21, 2001, 7:28pm
I dunno, I kinda liked the guy. He's definately disgruntled, there's no
doubt about that, but he definately brought a different perspective on things. I mean, taking a look at posts in the past few weeks, I can't say that there's been any good discussions or fights here, except a discussion on generations, but even then, everyone just agrees. It's always good in a family to have that crazy uncle who curses off the world, who's probably WAY too ahead of its time for the rest of the family members, but does provide tremendous insight to certain things, even if it is 99% of the time. Every newsgroup I've ever been to has one. Eep is actually fairly tame, to tell you the truth. He offends, but I figure we're just as much to blame for giving those stupid comments the light of day. I mean, yeah, he's pretty narrow minded, but he sure knows how to drill in repetition in a good debate (or flame war when someone gets mad that he called them a twit). Anywho, the guy thinks I'm fairly stupid too, don't get me wrong, but I can respect what he does and doesn't do. Some people are just put into this newsgroup to break the rules. As a family or community, a certain respect has got to be made for that for the sake of that in the future, maybe the rules will be remade for the better, you know? However, I must say I'd enjoy no-Eep for the holidays, even I can only take so much from his bantering. Maybe next year. :) Nornny [View Quote] wizard myrddinDec 21, 2001, 7:29pm
sinewDec 21, 2001, 10:18pm
Don't you have anything better to do than to follow and post conversations
of AW citizens around the internet? [View Quote] facterDec 21, 2001, 11:03pm
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> > Actually, Facter was the one to hold the EepVote. I'm not trying to be an ass here, just trying to keep Flagg's image right :) > He's annoying as hell, but hay, everyone wanted him around... :) F. agent1Dec 21, 2001, 11:15pm
Google keeps a massive cache of Usenet posts... That is a link to their posts with the author "Eep".
-Agent1 [View Quote] ananasDec 21, 2001, 11:20pm
I didn't post any conversation here, I have not been
attacked, so why should I. I did it some months ago when I have been attacked, and posted some excerpts of reactions to his flames in the usenet. Not HIS conversation, public usenet postings. I didn't even quote him, I just quoted, what others outside of AW think about him. I respect eep's knowledge of games and 3D stuff, but I have a problem with his behaviour in news groups. Some people told me that he is not like this in the AW chat, but his past behaviour in the AW newsgroups makes me think of him as a person I don't need here. Some of his postings even had to be removed by the NG moderator (different news server, not sure about the groups here) because of their offending contents. I think, if you post such a wish (or demand something), you should know how others think about it. This is a community newsgroup, and people with no sense for community should not be allowed to post here. This sense of community includes respecting others, toleranting people, even even if they are not from the USA and English is not their first language and a tolerable use of the own language. Knowledge alone does not make a person acceptable, knowledge is not even required. [View Quote] -- "_ | /\ \ / __/ /_ goober kingDec 22, 2001, 12:44am
Nornny, I love ya like a brother and everything, but I gotta ask you
something: Are you on crack?! I'm sorry, but the community does not *need* Eep, nor people like him. Humans are perfectly capable of debating a topic civilized-like, and there does not need to be someone tossing insults and pointless ranting around. The newsgroups are supposed to be for information sharing and discussion, not a form of entertainment. As Ananas suggested, if you *really* are masochistic, read his other posts in other NGs. You say he offers a different perspective, but both you and I know that's a load of beetle dung. Eep has had the same perspective for the 5+ years he's been in AW: "Make AW more game-like! AWC's incompetent! You're a twit!" (If you want Eep back so bad, just make a bot that runs those three lines on an endless loop and *poof*, instant Eep. :P) He never *ever* reneged on anything he ever said, regardless of how false it was; never had a change of heart (or mind), and consistently stuck his foot in his oversized mouth. And, if you recall, some of the longest threads in these NGs were when everyone else was trying to knock some sense into Eep after he jumped down the throat of some helpless newbie. And you say you want that all *back*?! Truly, you are mad. And as for sinew, it sounds like you're both hitting off the same pipe. First you think we're discriminating against "kids", and now you want Eep back. I'm guessing next you'll want Chucks Party and JFK2 reinstated as well. I wouldn't wish such torture on even my worst enemies. [View Quote] > I dunno, I kinda liked the guy. He's definately disgruntled, there's no > doubt about that, but he definately brought a different perspective on > things. I mean, taking a look at posts in the past few weeks, I can't say > that there's been any good discussions or fights here, except a discussion > on generations, but even then, everyone just agrees. It's always good in a > family to have that crazy uncle who curses off the world, who's probably WAY > too ahead of its time for the rest of the family members, but does provide > tremendous insight to certain things, even if it is 99% of the time. Every > newsgroup I've ever been to has one. > > Eep is actually fairly tame, to tell you the truth. He offends, but I figure > we're just as much to blame for giving those stupid comments the light of > day. I mean, yeah, he's pretty narrow minded, but he sure knows how to drill > in repetition in a good debate (or flame war when someone gets mad that he > called them a twit). Anywho, the guy thinks I'm fairly stupid too, don't get > me wrong, but I can respect what he does and doesn't do. Some people are > just put into this newsgroup to break the rules. As a family or community, a > certain respect has got to be made for that for the sake of that in the > future, maybe the rules will be remade for the better, you know? > > However, I must say I'd enjoy no-Eep for the holidays, even I can only take > so much from his bantering. Maybe next year. :) > > Nornny > [View Quote] -- Goober King Proof that Goobers ARE as dumb as they look. rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu sinewDec 22, 2001, 1:02am
I don't like the idea of anyone being excluded from a community, that's why
I made the post. It's hard to watch someone being ousted. Saying the F word to get attention is one thing; however, I believe there's more to the problem than Eep shocking people with the F word. Last summer, my son (who was 12 at the time) invited Eep to a party he was having because he saw him at ground zero talking. I suppose most everyone here knows how Eep feels about spamming through telegrams, but my son does not know because he doesn't read the newsgroup. Eep sent a less than friendly reply back to my son through telegram which had my son wondering if Eep was going to wreck his party or worse. My son reported this to someone at ground zero. I've taken out all the F's and replaced with a star. Telegram from Eep, sent Sun Aug 5, 2001 2:41 PM: Uh, so? You spammed me. Now *uck off! Telegram from Eep, sent Sun Aug 5, 2001 2:37 PM: Telegram from *Anonymous*, sent just now: PARTY at *Undisclosed Location* AW... Alll who comes gets 2 free LOTS!!!! Come and join the fun at 4:00 pm VRT Monday!!!!!!!!!!!!! Telegram from Eep, sent Sun Aug 5, 2001 2:38 PM: that's spam, idiot. don't *ucking spam me you *uck. Telegram from Eep, sent Sun Aug 5, 2001 2:38 PM: You just want to be a spam*uckwit. *uck off. Telegram from Eep, sent Sun Aug 5, 2001 2:39 PM: YES. Now leave me alone before I report you to a PK. Telegram from Eep, sent Sun Aug 5, 2001 2:41 PM: Uh, so? You spammed me. Now *uck off! It turns out my son had a very nice party with a big turnout because some nice person came with a bot and really watched over everything, which, from what I hear is not normally done. I don't know who the person was, but I thank them. I don't agree with (and am angered by) this treatment but on the other hand it's hard to see someone pushed out. If AW decided to block Eep, I hope they did so in a manner that was fair. I agree with most everything you say below; however, I hope you never dig up anything I've posted outside of Active Worlds that has nothing to do with AW and put a link here. [View Quote] sw chrisDec 22, 2001, 1:25am
My, how the tides have turned. ;P
-- SW Chris Eagle Scout, Philosopher, Peacemaker, and... Kung Fu Master? http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html sw chrisDec 22, 2001, 1:27am
ananasDec 22, 2001, 2:54am
Answers between
[View Quote] I think my first answer to this thred shows, that eep has still enough places to misbehave, so don't feel too bad about his banning. The newsgroups here have a charter, they are moderated without beeing controlled and people have been informed what would happen when the charter was violated. With his violation, eep pushed himself out here. I doubt that it will have an educating effect, because there was too much aggression in most of eep's postings :( > [...] > > I agree with most everything you say below; however, I hope you never dig up > anything I've posted outside of Active Worlds that has nothing to do with AW > and put a link here. Some time ago there was one more ActiveWorlds newsgroup for the City4All universe, where more flame wars took place. The things I had digged out back then were threads, where ActiveWorlds and/or Renderware or 3D formats were mentioned. I didn't look for eep. And the link I posted was a search engine link, with preset search argument. It just brings up a list of several hundred postings to the public usenet with eep as author. With the same method you will find some postings I made, not as many though, and you will not find one bad word towards others there. Volker [Ananas] -- "_ | /\ \ / __/ /_ ananasDec 22, 2001, 3:26am
Eliza is an old basic (or lisp?) program that you can still
find on the web. It was the first AI program ever (1966). You can try it online : http://www-ai.ijs.si/eliza/eliza.html or download Java implementations of it : http://philly.cyberloft.com/bgoerlic/eliza.htm http://chayden.net/chayden/eliza/Eliza.shtml If you need an own one, maybe these pages helps : http://www.ask-anytime.com/Education/BotDevelopmentGuide.htm http://padova.fimmg.org/ring/docs/ai_tutorial.htm I posted the source here some months ago. OK, it was not an eep, but could at least have been an early version *g [View Quote] -- "_ | /\ \ / __/ /_ the derekDec 22, 2001, 4:42am
WHY do you want him BACK? he probably got banned after me and some other
complained baout him cussing out some 11 year old here... someone like that dont belong here [View Quote] > Eep is banned from the NG's and is tired of 3.2 bugs. > > What will it take to get Eep back on the NG's so he can post? I'd like to > see him be able to post before Christmas. > > I agree about the 3.2 bugs. It's a real irritation-enough that I took it > off of my computer. What can we do so that Active Worlds will release an > update that fixes some of the major issues? (How many of you are still > using 3.1, I'm curious.) the derekDec 22, 2001, 4:47am
thats cause every time someone dissagrees someone starts a cussing contest if i
disagree with a post i ignore the entire thread-eep or no eep [View Quote] > I dunno, I kinda liked the guy. He's definately disgruntled, there's no > doubt about that, but he definately brought a different perspective on > things. I mean, taking a look at posts in the past few weeks, I can't say > that there's been any good discussions or fights here, except a discussion > on generations, but even then, everyone just agrees. It's always good in a > family to have that crazy uncle who curses off the world, who's probably WAY > too ahead of its time for the rest of the family members, but does provide > tremendous insight to certain things, even if it is 99% of the time. Every > newsgroup I've ever been to has one. > > Eep is actually fairly tame, to tell you the truth. He offends, but I figure > we're just as much to blame for giving those stupid comments the light of > day. I mean, yeah, he's pretty narrow minded, but he sure knows how to drill > in repetition in a good debate (or flame war when someone gets mad that he > called them a twit). Anywho, the guy thinks I'm fairly stupid too, don't get > me wrong, but I can respect what he does and doesn't do. Some people are > just put into this newsgroup to break the rules. As a family or community, a > certain respect has got to be made for that for the sake of that in the > future, maybe the rules will be remade for the better, you know? > > However, I must say I'd enjoy no-Eep for the holidays, even I can only take > so much from his bantering. Maybe next year. :) > > Nornny > [View Quote] the derekDec 22, 2001, 4:49am
whoops i just disagreed there... well im not gonna be here next week anyway
have fun cussin at me norny! [View Quote] facterDec 22, 2001, 6:35am
> My, how the tides have turned. ;P
Not really, its the same argument all over again actually :) Oh, for those wondering, I'm still around AW :) F. nornny11Dec 22, 2001, 1:30pm
whoops, I meant 1% of the time. hehe. sorry about that folks. Eep's not that
righteous. Nornny [View Quote] jermeDec 24, 2001, 1:12pm
I agree.. there has been a HUGE reduction in the number of flames. Mostly
due to the fact that Eep (along with a few of his flaming pals) have been banned. How long has it been since you've seen a huge flame? You know.. the ones where Eep is batteling it out with some newbie, in which even with my 21 inch moniter and my 1280 X 960 resoloution it still won't fit on one screen.... Think about it.. it's much more peaceful here now... Leave Eep out of the ng's. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jeremy Booker JTech Web Systems (www.JTechWebSystems.com -- Coming Soon) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [View Quote] kelleeDec 25, 2001, 11:24pm
Every community has a grumpy old man that chases the kids away from his
fruit trees, and the lovely lady that knits outfits for orphans, teachers, policemen, politicians,shopkeepers, families, single ppl and teenagers that just like simply hanging around the local park playing ball games. Some families have problems, some have the white picket fence and some struggle on a low wage with a ton of kids. The group of teenagers that vandalised the train station on friday night are chastised but not jailed. The ppl that commit serious crimes are removed from the community. It's when the community loses more than just the criminals that it loses its diversity and charm. Personally i felt that AW's grumpy old man was not guilty of any thing other than chasing cheeky kids out of his orchard. [View Quote] holistic1Dec 27, 2001, 11:03am
Hi kellee,
While I would love to agree with you, however,your analogy is flawed. If the grumpy old man (eep) would have stayed in his own orchard there would not have been any problems. It's when he kept jumping in everyone elses vinelands that the trouble begins. I don't need anyone telling me how I should or should not post or respond to posts. Seems to me that eep was always trying to dictate to everyone on how anything should be said, done or otherwise stated in these NG's whether the conversation was aimed at him or not. Being a grumpy old man ( something I am striving for, and so far have managed only 'old man' :) ), doesn't give anyone the right to tell others how to tend their orchard. Regards, Holistic1 [View Quote] > Every community has a grumpy old man that chases the kids away from his > fruit trees, and the lovely lady that knits outfits for orphans, teachers, > policemen, politicians,shopkeepers, families, single ppl and teenagers that > just like simply hanging around the local park playing ball games. Some > families have problems, some have the white picket fence and some struggle > on a low wage with a ton of kids. The group of teenagers that vandalised the > train station on friday night are chastised but not jailed. The ppl that > commit serious crimes are removed from the community. > > It's when the community loses more than just the criminals that it loses its > diversity and charm. > > Personally i felt that AW's grumpy old man was not guilty of any thing other > than chasing cheeky kids out of his orchard. > [View Quote] kelleeDec 28, 2001, 4:58am
Never said it did, what i WAS saying was .... telling other ppl how to
tend their orchards is pretty harmless and not enough to come under the heading " serious crime - lets remove him from the community". You can ignore any advice, good or bad, ya know. I got "pounced" on by Eep a few times...... Once was when i pounced him first ( he had to retaliate, otherwise it would have been bad for his image) and the other time i proved him wrong in telegrams afterwards and actually received a *small* apology. So what?.... my skin is still intact and if it wasnt..... then there is MUTE He was like JR Ewing outta Dallas...... everyone hated him, but when they tried to kill him off, no one watched Dallas anymore [View Quote] |
