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j b e l l // User Search
Feb 3, 2001, 3:50am
wow.. i doubt there's any truth to any of that. especially since ppl can
already create their own avs... i wonder if that article is even fully
legal...
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http://platinum.awjbell.com
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[View Quote]"builderz" <sawran at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3A7B5F25.B03CFFDF at yahoo.com...
> In the March 2001 issue of PC Gamer (on page 26), there is a small
> article about Active Worlds. Here is an interesting excerpt about
> avatars: "Right now there are dozens of different models to choose from;
> future versions of the software will let you create your own skins to
> further personalize your online self." The article mentions the worlds
> Yellowstone, New York, and Mars. Here is another portion from the
> article about using AW for gaming: "Active Worlds understands its
> system's potential for gaming and is planning to jump aboard the online
> craze. While there is no word on whether the company's talking with any
> big-name game developers right now, it's just a matter of time before
> someone takes advantage of Active Worlds, and that's a day all gamers
> should look forward to." Comments, anyone?
>
> -Builderz
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Feb 3, 2001, 8:15am
i'll 2nd that.. or is it 3rd now.. who's counting..
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J B E L L
http://platinum.awjbell.com
G O I N G P L A T I N U M
[View Quote]"onesummer" <spring84 at hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3a7bc818$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Happy Birthday and many more! Great party for a great person!
> ingiebee <chuggerx at earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:3A7A6DA0.505E004E at earthlink.net...
>
>
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Feb 3, 2001, 4:14pm
i don't think anyone care's are about this, i may be speaking for myself,
but most of the ppl here are cautious and protected enough against that kind
of crap.... and there is a cure-it's called the delete button..
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J B E L L
http://platinum.awjbell.com
G O I N G P L A T I N U M
[View Quote]"col klink" <jarync at home.com> wrote in message
news:3a7c24bc at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I received this message
>
> NEW VIRUS NO CURE!!!!!!!!!
>
> Please, send this information to every
> person in your address book.
>
> If you receive and e-mail that reads
> "UPGRADE INTERNET2", do not open it as it
> contains an executable named "PERRIN.EXE". It
> will erase all the data in your hard drive and
> it will stay in memory. Every time you upload
> any data, it will be automatically erased and
> you will not be able to use your computer again.
>
> This information was published in the CNN web
> site.
>
> This is a very dangerous virus. To this date,
> there is no known antivirus program for this
> particular virus.
>
> Please, forward this information to your friends
> (and enemies, as well), so that they will be on
> the alert.
>
> Also check the list below, sent by IBM, with the
> names of some e-mails that, if received, should
> not be opened and must be deleted immediately,
> because they contain attached viruses. This way,
> your computer will be safe. The titles are:
> 1) buddylst.exe
> 2) calcu18r.exe
> 3) deathpr.exe
> 4) einstein.exe
> 5) happ.exe
> 6) girls.exe
> 7) happy99.exe
> 8) japanese.exe
> 9) keypress.exe
> 10) kitty.exe
> 11) monday.exe
> 12) teletubb.exe
> 13) The Phantom Menace
> 14) prettypark.exe
> 15) UP-GRADE INTERNET2
> 16) perrin.exe
> 17) I love You
> 18) CELCOM Screen Saver or CELSAVER.EXE
> 19) Win a Holiday (e-mail)
> 20) JOIN THE CREW O PENPALS
>
> Once again, do not open these e-mails and pass
> this information on to your friends as soon as
> possible!
>
>
>
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Feb 3, 2001, 4:17pm
ahh! i just corssposted without knowing it! ahhhhhhhhhhh!! forgive me father
for i have sinned.... sorry everyone...
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J B E L L
http://platinum.awjbell.com
G O I N G P L A T I N U M
[View Quote]"j b e l l" <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message
news:3a7c4a8c$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> i don't think anyone care's are about this, i may be speaking for myself,
> but most of the ppl here are cautious and protected enough against that
kind
> of crap.... and there is a cure-it's called the delete button..
>
> --
> J B E L L
> http://platinum.awjbell.com
> G O I N G P L A T I N U M
> "col klink" <jarync at home.com> wrote in message
> news:3a7c24bc at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
>
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Feb 3, 2001, 11:29pm
lay off facter - at least he can actually be found on aw, unlike all those
other ppl who claim to be such good workers for aw... facter has helped me
with stuff even when he wasn't working... so sheesh, give him a break, he's
only human...
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J B E L L
http://platinum.awjbell.com
G O I N G P L A T I N U M
[View Quote]"eep" <no at 1.com> wrote in message news:3A7C98C0.C10AD95 at 1.com...
> So you're responsible for AWCI's terrible-excuse-for-a-website now? How
about losing all the different-colored graphics and sticking with the same
color (like blue since it seems to be one of AW's primary colors) to reduce
the site's overall load time? Most people are still on 56K dial-up
connections.
>
> facter wrote:
>
stock
they
caught up
Excite
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Feb 5, 2001, 10:11pm
i think you need to realize the strength of programmers and their
abilites.....the closest i got to programming was using VB and with someone
else's BAS file.. so all i did was make interfaces pretty much heh... that
and irc scripting which i will laugh if you say is difficult.. i was there
for a month and become better then some of the ppl who spent ages there..
but you have to expect that from ppl who use dalnet, lol anywho..
programming would have to be hard as hell.. otherwise not only would they
not be paid well, there would be gobs of programs available.. so i'm gonna
acknowledge the greatness of all these programmers and their hard work, and
pay for what i use, and praise them for their strengths rather then beat
them for their weaknesses.. i don't think i person would want to become
better at what they do if they are constantly beaten for slight errors-if
you don't like something.. no one is forcing you to use it.. that's the
glory of it all.. you don't have to do it.. but yet you continue to come...
so that must say something not only about yourself, but the ppl who designed
the programs themselves.. thank you, that is all....
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J B E L L
http://platinum.awjbell.com
G O I N G P L A T I N U M
Feb 5, 2001, 10:41pm
if roland wasn't what i thought of as a good programer, then i wouldn't
praise him.. but i feel he is, and therefore i do... you wonder why he might
be unmotivated to do the things some of you demand... it's perfectly clear
to me why he does not..
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J B E L L
http://platinum.awjbell.com
G O I N G P L A T I N U M
[View Quote]"35850" <!> wrote in message news:3a7f45fe$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Difficulty is not an excuse for incompetence. Besides, it's all relative;
> programming is a difficult field compared to, for example, cleaning
floors,
> but that does not give a programmer an excuse to be bad at his work. If
he
> can't handle it, maybe he should be the one mopping.
>
> As far as, "that must say something abou the programs themselves," you're
> right. Not for the correct reason, though. The reason people like me who
> are irritated by the current state of AW continue to watch it, and even
use
> it, is that the idea behind it is excellent, even if the implementation is
> severely lacking.
>
> You're not going to improve the world by saying, "you're doing great, keep
> up the good work," especially if it's not true.
>
> "j b e l l" <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message
> news:3a7f414f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> someone
that
there
there..
they
gonna
> and
errors-if
> come...
> designed
>
>
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need I remind you it's only $20 a year.. i guarantee all of you reading =
this pay more to connect to the internet and yet you don't jump down =
their throught at every feasible error (well some of you do, but that's =
beyond the point) The point that i'm trying to make is that sure, you =
can complain and whine and moan.. but you must act on it to make =
differance.. your not going to get anywhere by saying bad things about =
ppl who make the software most of us use daily, submit a respectable =
letter if you want to see a differance.. that's what you do in real =
life, and why should that be different here? bashing and slamming =
someone whoms skills are beyond comparison of those whim critize his =
abilities is not away to get anything but ignored.... trust me on this =
one... there is a reason roland doesn't read these NGs.. maybe if you =
were more kind to him, he'd rather listen to your input.. most things =
don't occur without reason.. and i highly doubt that the feelings in =
which you bestow did not become because a person is lacking some =
personal qualities, although that is the case many times, i feel it is =
best to give the benefit of the doubt, perhaps if the tables were to =
turn, you'de want the same.. and i leave you with the golden rule, treat =
others who you'de like to be treated.. I think it is the most widely =
spread, under considered saying of all time.. just stop and think next =
time you insult something which is not convenient for you personally.. =
ahh.. civilization has spoiled us, and once again returned to bite us on =
the ass...
--=20
J B E L L
http://platinum.awjbell.com
G O I N G P L A T I N U M
[View Quote] "the derek" <ImTheDerek at yahoo.com> wrote in message =
news:3A7F761A.8C5E176E at yahoo.com...
the only reason the software in aw sucks is the lack of money aw has.=20
if they could pay more people theyd have better software and therefore =
earn more money...=20
of course the people who run aw are to blame for this... not the =
programmers=20
if you get a program for free.. you CANT complain.. if you dont like =
it DONT use it=20
if you pay for software that you didnt get to try out first THEN you =
can complain, otherwise its your decision=20
use ot or dont use it=20
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if roland wasn't what i thought of as a good programer, then i =
wouldn't=20
praise him.. but i feel he is, and therefore i do... you wonder why =
he might=20
be unmotivated to do the things some of you demand... it's perfectly =
clear=20
to me why he does not..=20
--=20
J B E L L=20
http://platinum.awjbell.com=20
G O I N G P L A T I N U M=20
[View Quote] "35850" <!> wrote in message =
news:3a7f45fe$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...=20
> Difficulty is not an excuse for incompetence. Besides, it's all =
relative;=20
> programming is a difficult field compared to, for example, =
cleaning=20
floors,=20
> but that does not give a programmer an excuse to be bad at his =
work. If=20
he=20
> can't handle it, maybe he should be the one mopping.=20
>=20
> As far as, "that must say something abou the programs themselves," =
you're=20
> right. Not for the correct reason, though. The reason people =
like me who=20
> are irritated by the current state of AW continue to watch it, and =
even=20
use=20
> it, is that the idea behind it is excellent, even if the =
implementation is=20
> severely lacking.=20
>=20
> You're not going to improve the world by saying, "you're doing =
great, keep=20
> up the good work," especially if it's not true.=20
>=20
> "j b e l l" <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message=20
> news:3a7f414f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...=20
their=20
with=20
> someone=20
heh...=20
that=20
was=20
there=20
ages=20
there..=20
anywho..=20
would=20
they=20
i'm=20
gonna=20
hard work,=20
> and=20
then beat=20
become=20
errors-if=20
that's the=20
to=20
> come...=20
who=20
> designed=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>need I remind you it's only $20 a =
year.. i=20
guarantee all of you reading this pay more to connect to the internet =
and yet=20
you don't jump down their throught at every feasible error (well some of =
you do,=20
but that's beyond the point) The point that i'm trying to make is =
that=20
sure, you can complain and whine and moan.. but you must act on it to =
make=20
differance.. your not going to get anywhere by saying bad things about =
ppl who=20
make the software most of us use daily, submit a respectable letter if =
you want=20
to see a differance.. that's what you do in real life, and why should =
that be=20
different here? bashing and slamming someone whoms skills are beyond =
comparison=20
of those whim critize his abilities is not away to get anything but =
ignored....=20
trust me on this one... there is a reason roland doesn't read these =
NGs.. maybe=20
if you were more kind to him, he'd rather listen to your input.. most =
things=20
don't occur without reason.. and i highly doubt that the feelings in =
which you=20
bestow did not become because a person is lacking some personal =
qualities,=20
although that is the case many times, i feel it is best to give the =
benefit of=20
the doubt, perhaps if the tables were to turn, you'de want the same.. =
and i=20
leave you with the golden rule, treat others who you'de like to be =
treated.. I=20
think it is the most widely spread, under considered saying of all =
time.. just=20
stop and think next time you insult something which is not convenient =
for you=20
personally.. ahh.. civilization has spoiled us, and once again returned =
to bite=20
us on the ass...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>J B E L L<BR><A=20
href=3D"http://platinum.awjbell.com">http://platinum.awjbell.com</A><BR>G=
O I N=20
G P L A T I N U M</DIV>
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<DIV>"the derek" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:ImTheDerek at yahoo.com">ImTheDerek at yahoo.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
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m</A>...</DIV>the=20
only reason the software in aw sucks is the lack of money aw has. =
<BR>if they=20
could pay more people theyd have better software and therefore earn =
more=20
money... <BR>of course the people who run aw are to blame for this... =
not the=20
programmers=20
<P>if you get a program for free.. you CANT complain.. if you dont =
like it=20
DONT use it <BR>if you pay for software that you didnt get to try out =
first=20
THEN you can complain, otherwise its your decision <BR>use ot or dont =
use it=20
[View Quote] <P>j b e l l wrote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D"CITE">if roland wasn't what i thought of as a good =
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programer, then i wouldn't <BR>praise him.. but i feel he is, and =
therefore=20
i do... you wonder why he might <BR>be unmotivated to do the things =
some of=20
you demand... it's perfectly clear <BR>to me why he does not..=20
<P>-- <BR>J B E L L <BR><A=20
href=3D"http://platinum.awjbell.com">http://platinum.awjbell.com</A> =
<BR>G O I=20
[View Quote] N G P L A T I N U M <BR>"35850" <!> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:3a7f45fe$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com">news:3a7f45fe$1 at server1=
..Activeworlds.com</A>...=20
<BR>> Difficulty is not an excuse for incompetence. =
Besides, it's=20
all relative; <BR>> programming is a difficult field compared to, =
for=20
example, cleaning <BR>floors, <BR>> but that does not give a =
programmer=20
an excuse to be bad at his work. If <BR>he <BR>> can't =
handle it,=20
maybe he should be the one mopping. <BR>> <BR>> As far as, =
"that must=20
say something abou the programs themselves," you're <BR>> =
right. =20
Not for the correct reason, though. The reason people like me =
who=20
<BR>> are irritated by the current state of AW continue to watch =
it, and=20
even <BR>use <BR>> it, is that the idea behind it is excellent, =
even if=20
the implementation is <BR>> severely lacking. <BR>> <BR>> =
You're=20
not going to improve the world by saying, "you're doing great, keep =
<BR>>=20
up the good work," especially if it's not true. <BR>> <BR>> "j =
b e l=20
l" <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message <BR>> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:3a7f414f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com">news:3a7f414f$1 at server1=
..Activeworlds.com</A>...=20
<BR>> > i think you need to realize the strength of =
programmers and=20
their <BR>> > abilites.....the closest i got to programming =
was using=20
VB and with <BR>> someone <BR>> > else's BAS file.. so all =
i did=20
was make interfaces pretty much heh... <BR>that <BR>> > and =
irc=20
scripting which i will laugh if you say is difficult.. i was =
<BR>there=20
<BR>> > for a month and become better then some of the ppl who =
spent=20
ages <BR>there.. <BR>> > but you have to expect that from ppl =
who use=20
dalnet, lol anywho.. <BR>> > programming would have to be hard =
as=20
hell.. otherwise not only would <BR>they <BR>> > not be paid =
well,=20
there would be gobs of programs available.. so i'm <BR>gonna =
<BR>> >=20
acknowledge the greatness of all these programmers and their hard =
work,=20
<BR>> and <BR>> > pay for what i use, and praise them for =
their=20
strengths rather then beat <BR>> > them for their weaknesses.. =
i don't=20
think i person would want to become <BR>> > better at what =
they do if=20
they are constantly beaten for slight <BR>errors-if <BR>> > =
you don't=20
like something.. no one is forcing you to use it.. that's the =
<BR>> >=20
glory of it all.. you don't have to do it.. but yet you continue to =
<BR>>=20
come... <BR>> > so that must say something not only about =
yourself,=20
but the ppl who <BR>> designed <BR>> > the programs =
themselves..=20
thank you, that is all.... <BR>>=20
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i wasn't aware that a 3d community chat enviroment was suddenly called a =
game, thanks for the correction..
(if your looking for a game aspect.. no wonder your dissappointed with =
aw)
--=20
J B E L L
http://platinum.awjbell.com
G O I N G P L A T I N U M
[View Quote] "sw comit" <swcomit at swcity.net> wrote in message =
news:3a7f9952$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
I've said it once (well about 50 times really) and I'll say it again: =
They need to improve Alphaworld, more tourist would register if they =
weren't so limited, especially when they can be playing far better games =
out on the web.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>i wasn't aware that a 3d community chat =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>(if your looking for a game aspect.. no =
wonder your=20
dissappointed with aw)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>J B E L L<BR><A=20
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O I N=20
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<DIV>"sw comit" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:swcomit at swcity.net">swcomit at swcity.net</A>> wrote in =
message=20
<A=20
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..Activeworlds.com</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've said it once (well about 50 =
times really)=20
and I'll say it again: They need to improve Alphaworld, more =
tourist=20
would register if they weren't so limited, especially when they can be =
playing=20
far better games out on the =
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thx for summarizing my point.. in less then 100 words.. lol
--=20
J B E L L
http://platinum.awjbell.com
G O I N G P L A T I N U M
[View Quote] "tyrell" <tyrell1 at sk.sympatico.ca> wrote in message =
news:3A7FE294.8430E311 at sk.sympatico.ca...
No, you'r not the only one who thinks this. It's just that those who =
feel like you have long ago stopped either reading or at the very least =
posting to this News Group. We have better things to do... Instead of =
whining all the time about the Software and what it 'isn't' we get on =
with using 'what it is'.=20
Want a game, go buy a game. ActiveWorlds isn't one. It's, as you =
pointed out (I believe it was you), it's a Chat Util. It's also a place =
where you can build something, as big (or little) as you want. This is =
what those who recognize what the Software really is are doing.=20
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An example of what 'can' be done in Alpha can be found here:=20
http://objects.activeworlds.com/cgi-bin/teleport.cgi?aw_6505S_6556.80E =
(er... yep... another shameless plug for what I'm building, this time =
at Verge City :-) (can't fit any of the Beta features into my old =
location(s)))=20
WARNING - As with everything I build... IT'S MAXED OUT. Those with =
slow system may want to think twice before going there... BUT if you can =
handle it, give it a visit. Best viewed at 120 meters (altho' 50m is ok =
I guess). (If you'r on the Beta List even better...)=20
As anyone who does check this location out can see, I have better =
things to do then complain all the time about what the Software 'can't' =
do. (and of late I'v just been 'mark(ing) as read' the posts in this =
Group - I can't be bothered wading thru' the same old story over and =
over again)=20
My 2 cents...=20
[View Quote]
need I remind you it's only $20 a year.. i guarantee all of you =
reading this pay more to connect to the internet and yet you don't jump =
down their throught at every feasible error (well some of you do, but =
that's beyond the point) The point that i'm trying to make is that =
sure, you can complain and whine and moan.. but you must act on it to =
make differance.. your not going to get anywhere by saying bad things =
about ppl who make the software most of us use daily, submit a =
respectable letter if you want to see a differance.. that's what you do =
in real life, and why should that be different here? bashing and =
slamming someone whoms skills are beyond comparison of those whim =
critize his abilities is not away to get anything but ignored.... trust =
me on this one... there is a reason roland doesn't read these NGs.. =
maybe if you were more kind to him, he'd rather listen to your input.. =
most things don't occur without reason.. and i highly doubt that the =
feelings in which you bestow did not become because a person is lacking =
some personal qualities, although that is the case many times, i feel it =
is best to give the benefit of the doubt, perhaps if the tables were to =
turn, you'de want the same.. and i leave you with the golden rule, treat =
others who you'de like to be treated.. I think it is the most widely =
spread, under considered saying of all time.. just stop and think next =
time you insult something which is not convenient for you personally.. =
ahh.. civilization has spoiled us, and once again returned to bite us on =
the ass... =20
--=20
J B E L L=20
http://platinum.awjbell.com=20
G O I N G P L A T I N U M=20
[View Quote] "the derek" <ImTheDerek at yahoo.com> wrote in message =
news:3A7F761A.8C5E176E at yahoo.com...the only reason the software in aw =
sucks is the lack of money aw has.=20
if they could pay more people theyd have better software and =
therefore earn more money...=20
of course the people who run aw are to blame for this... not the =
programmers=20
if you get a program for free.. you CANT complain.. if you dont =
like it DONT use it=20
if you pay for software that you didnt get to try out first THEN =
you can complain, otherwise its your decision=20
use ot or dont use it=20
|
if roland wasn't what i thought of as a good programer, then i =
wouldn't=20
praise him.. but i feel he is, and therefore i do... you wonder =
why he might=20
be unmotivated to do the things some of you demand... it's =
perfectly clear=20
to me why he does not..=20
--=20
J B E L L=20
http://platinum.awjbell.com=20
G O I N G P L A T I N U M=20
[View Quote] "35850" <!> wrote in message =
news:3a7f45fe$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...=20
> Difficulty is not an excuse for incompetence. Besides, it's =
all relative;=20
> programming is a difficult field compared to, for example, =
cleaning=20
floors,=20
> but that does not give a programmer an excuse to be bad at his =
work. If=20
he=20
> can't handle it, maybe he should be the one mopping.=20
>=20
> As far as, "that must say something abou the programs =
themselves," you're=20
> right. Not for the correct reason, though. The reason people =
like me who=20
> are irritated by the current state of AW continue to watch it, =
and even=20
use=20
> it, is that the idea behind it is excellent, even if the =
implementation is=20
> severely lacking.=20
>=20
> You're not going to improve the world by saying, "you're doing =
great, keep=20
> up the good work," especially if it's not true.=20
>=20
> "j b e l l" <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message=20
> news:3a7f414f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...=20
their=20
and with=20
> someone=20
much heh...=20
that=20
difficult.. i was=20
there=20
ages=20
there..=20
anywho..=20
only would=20
they=20
available.. so i'm=20
gonna=20
hard work,=20
> and=20
rather then beat=20
want to become=20
slight=20
errors-if=20
that's the=20
continue to=20
> come...=20
ppl who=20
> designed=20
>=20
>
|
--=20
Tyrell - Alpha Prime - 21.8s 457e 90 - "Mundus vult decipi"=20
"Eat well, stay fit, die anyway."=20
http://www3.sk.sympatico.ca/ty1/index.html=20
http://www.dlcwest.com/~rpatter/index.html=20
ICQ UN - 272905=20
All those who believe in psychokinesis raise my hand.=20
=20
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then 100=20
words.. lol</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"tyrell" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:tyrell1 at sk.sympatico.ca">tyrell1 at sk.sympatico.ca</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:3A7FE294.8430E311 at sk.sympatico.ca">news:3A7FE294.8430E311 at sk=
..sympatico.ca</A>...</DIV>No,=20
you'r not the only one who thinks this. It's just that those who feel =
like you=20
have long ago stopped either reading or at the very least posting to =
this News=20
Group. We have better things to do... Instead of whining all the time =
about=20
the Software and what it 'isn't' we get on with using 'what it is'.=20
<P>Want a game, go buy a game. ActiveWorlds isn't one. It's, as you =
pointed=20
out (I believe it was you), it's a Chat Util. It's also a place where =
you can=20
build something, as big (or little) as you want. This is what those =
who=20
recognize what the Software really is are doing.=20
<P>An example of what 'can' be done in Alpha can be found here:=20
<P><A=20
=
href=3D"http://objects.activeworlds.com/cgi-bin/teleport.cgi?aw_6505S_655=
6.80E">http://objects.activeworlds.com/cgi-bin/teleport.cgi?aw_6505S_6556=
..80E</A>=20
<P>(er... yep... another shameless plug for what I'm building, this =
time at=20
Verge City :-) (can't fit any of the Beta features into my old =
location(s)))=20
<P>WARNING - As with everything I build... IT'S MAXED OUT. Those with =
slow=20
system may want to think twice before going there... BUT if you can =
handle it,=20
give it a visit. Best viewed at 120 meters (altho' 50m is ok I guess). =
(If=20
you'r on the Beta List even better...)=20
<P>As anyone who does check this location out can see, I have better =
things to=20
do then complain all the time about what the Software 'can't' do. (and =
of late=20
I'v just been 'mark(ing) as read' the posts in this Group - I can't be =
bothered wading thru' the same old story over and over again)=20
<P>My 2 cents...=20
[View Quote] <P>j b e l l wrote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D"CITE">
<STYLE></STYLE>
<FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>need I remind you it's only $20 a =
year.. i=20
guarantee all of you reading this pay more to connect to the =
internet and=20
yet you don't jump down their throught at every feasible error (well =
some of=20
you do, but that's beyond the point) The point that i'm trying =
to make=20
is that sure, you can complain and whine and moan.. but you must act =
on it=20
to make differance.. your not going to get anywhere by saying bad =
things=20
about ppl who make the software most of us use daily, submit a =
respectable=20
letter if you want to see a differance.. that's what you do in real =
life,=20
and why should that be different here? bashing and slamming someone =
whoms=20
skills are beyond comparison of those whim critize his abilities is =
not away=20
to get anything but ignored.... trust me on this one... there is a =
reason=20
roland doesn't read these NGs.. maybe if you were more kind to him, =
he'd=20
rather listen to your input.. most things don't occur without =
reason.. and i=20
highly doubt that the feelings in which you bestow did not become =
because a=20
person is lacking some personal qualities, although that is the case =
many=20
times, i feel it is best to give the benefit of the doubt, perhaps =
if the=20
tables were to turn, you'de want the same.. and i leave you with the =
golden=20
rule, treat others who you'de like to be treated.. I think it is the =
most=20
widely spread, under considered saying of all time.. just stop and =
think=20
next time you insult something which is not convenient for you =
personally..=20
ahh.. civilization has spoiled us, and once again returned to bite =
us on the=20
ass...</FONT></FONT> <BR>-- <BR>J B E L L <BR><A=20
href=3D"http://platinum.awjbell.com">http://platinum.awjbell.com</A> =
<BR>G O I=20
N G P L A T I N U M=20
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">"the=20
derek" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:ImTheDerek at yahoo.com">ImTheDerek at yahoo.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:3A7F761A.8C5E176E at yahoo.com">news:3A7F761A.8C5E176E at yahoo.co=
m</A>...the=20
only reason the software in aw sucks is the lack of money aw has. =
<BR>if=20
they could pay more people theyd have better software and =
therefore earn=20
more money... <BR>of course the people who run aw are to blame for =
this...=20
not the programmers=20
<P>if you get a program for free.. you CANT complain.. if you dont =
like it=20
DONT use it <BR>if you pay for software that you didnt get to try =
out=20
first THEN you can complain, otherwise its your decision <BR>use =
ot or=20
dont use it=20
<P>j b e l l wrote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D"CITE">if roland wasn't what i thought of as a =
good=20
programer, then i wouldn't <BR>praise him.. but i feel he is, =
and=20
therefore i do... you wonder why he might <BR>be unmotivated to =
do the=20
things some of you demand... it's perfectly clear <BR>to me why =
he does=20
not..=20
<P>-- <BR>J B E L L <BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://platinum.awjbell.com">http://platinum.awjbell.com</A> =
<BR>G=20
O I N G P L A T I N U M <BR>"35850" <!> wrote in =
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:3a7f45fe$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com">news:3a7f45fe$1 at server1=
..Activeworlds.com</A>...=20
<BR>> Difficulty is not an excuse for incompetence. =
Besides,=20
it's all relative; <BR>> programming is a difficult field =
compared=20
to, for example, cleaning <BR>floors, <BR>> but that does not =
give a=20
programmer an excuse to be bad at his work. If <BR>he =
<BR>>=20
can't handle it, maybe he should be the one mopping. <BR>> =
<BR>>=20
As far as, "that must say something abou the programs =
themselves,"=20
you're <BR>> right. Not for the correct reason, =
though. =20
The reason people like me who <BR>> are irritated by the =
current=20
state of AW continue to watch it, and even <BR>use <BR>> it, =
is that=20
the idea behind it is excellent, even if the implementation is =
<BR>>=20
severely lacking. <BR>> <BR>> You're not going to improve =
the=20
world by saying, "you're doing great, keep <BR>> up the good =
work,"=20
especially if it's not true. <BR>> <BR>> "j b e l l"=20
<jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message <BR>> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:3a7f414f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com">news:3a7f414f$1 at server1=
..Activeworlds.com</A>...=20
<BR>> > i think you need to realize the strength of =
programmers=20
and their <BR>> > abilites.....the closest i got to =
programming=20
was using VB and with <BR>> someone <BR>> > else's BAS =
file..=20
so all i did was make interfaces pretty much heh... <BR>that =
<BR>>=20
> and irc scripting which i will laugh if you say is =
difficult.. i=20
was <BR>there <BR>> > for a month and become better then =
some of=20
the ppl who spent ages <BR>there.. <BR>> > but you have to =
expect=20
that from ppl who use dalnet, lol anywho.. <BR>> > =
programming=20
would have to be hard as hell.. otherwise not only would =
<BR>they=20
<BR>> > not be paid well, there would be gobs of programs=20
available.. so i'm <BR>gonna <BR>> > acknowledge the =
greatness of=20
all these programmers and their hard work, <BR>> and <BR>> =
>=20
pay for what i use, and praise them for their strengths rather =
then beat=20
<BR>> > them for their weaknesses.. i don't think i person =
would=20
want to become <BR>> > better at what they do if they are=20
constantly beaten for slight <BR>errors-if <BR>> > you =
don't like=20
something.. no one is forcing you to use it.. that's the =
<BR>> >=20
glory of it all.. you don't have to do it.. but yet you continue =
to=20
<BR>> come... <BR>> > so that must say something not =
only about=20
yourself, but the ppl who <BR>> designed <BR>> > the =
programs=20
themselves.. thank you, that is all.... <BR>>=20
<BR>></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P>-- <BR>Tyrell - Alpha Prime - 21.8s 457e 90 - "Mundus vult decipi" =
<BR>"Eat=20
well, stay fit, die anyway." <BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www3.sk.sympatico.ca/ty1/index.html">http://www3.sk.sympat=
ico.ca/ty1/index.html</A>=20
<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.dlcwest.com/~rpatter/index.html">http://www.dlcwest.co=
m/~rpatter/index.html</A>=20
<BR>ICQ UN - 272905 <BR>All those who believe in psychokinesis raise =
my hand.=20
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--=20
J B E L L
http://platinum.awjbell.com
G O I N G P L A T I N U M
[View Quote] "j b e l l" <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message =
news:3a8016ed at server1.Activeworlds.com...
thx for summarizing my point.. in less then 100 words.. lol
|
--=20
J B E L L
http://platinum.awjbell.com
G O I N G P L A T I N U M
[View Quote] "tyrell" <tyrell1 at sk.sympatico.ca> wrote in message =
news:3A7FE294.8430E311 at sk.sympatico.ca...
No, you'r not the only one who thinks this. It's just that those who =
feel like you have long ago stopped either reading or at the very least =
posting to this News Group. We have better things to do... Instead of =
whining all the time about the Software and what it 'isn't' we get on =
with using 'what it is'.=20
Want a game, go buy a game. ActiveWorlds isn't one. It's, as you =
pointed out (I believe it was you), it's a Chat Util. It's also a place =
where you can build something, as big (or little) as you want. This is =
what those who recognize what the Software really is are doing.=20
|
An example of what 'can' be done in Alpha can be found here:=20
=
http://objects.activeworlds.com/cgi-bin/teleport.cgi?aw_6505S_6556.80E=20
(er... yep... another shameless plug for what I'm building, this =
time at Verge City :-) (can't fit any of the Beta features into my old =
location(s)))=20
WARNING - As with everything I build... IT'S MAXED OUT. Those with =
slow system may want to think twice before going there... BUT if you can =
handle it, give it a visit. Best viewed at 120 meters (altho' 50m is ok =
I guess). (If you'r on the Beta List even better...)=20
As anyone who does check this location out can see, I have better =
things to do then complain all the time about what the Software 'can't' =
do. (and of late I'v just been 'mark(ing) as read' the posts in this =
Group - I can't be bothered wading thru' the same old story over and =
over again)=20
My 2 cents...=20
[View Quote]
need I remind you it's only $20 a year.. i guarantee all of you =
reading this pay more to connect to the internet and yet you don't jump =
down their throught at every feasible error (well some of you do, but =
that's beyond the point) The point that i'm trying to make is that =
sure, you can complain and whine and moan.. but you must act on it to =
make differance.. your not going to get anywhere by saying bad things =
about ppl who make the software most of us use daily, submit a =
respectable letter if you want to see a differance.. that's what you do =
in real life, and why should that be different here? bashing and =
slamming someone whoms skills are beyond comparison of those whim =
critize his abilities is not away to get anything but ignored.... trust =
me on this one... there is a reason roland doesn't read these NGs.. =
maybe if you were more kind to him, he'd rather listen to your input.. =
most things don't occur without reason.. and i highly doubt that the =
feelings in which you bestow did not become because a person is lacking =
some personal qualities, although that is the case many times, i feel it =
is best to give the benefit of the doubt, perhaps if the tables were to =
turn, you'de want the same.. and i leave you with the golden rule, treat =
others who you'de like to be treated.. I think it is the most widely =
spread, under considered saying of all time.. just stop and think next =
time you insult something which is not convenient for you personally.. =
ahh.. civilization has spoiled us, and once again returned to bite us on =
the ass... =20
--=20
J B E L L=20
http://platinum.awjbell.com=20
G O I N G P L A T I N U M=20
[View Quote] "the derek" <ImTheDerek at yahoo.com> wrote in message =
news:3A7F761A.8C5E176E at yahoo.com...the only reason the software in aw =
sucks is the lack of money aw has.=20
if they could pay more people theyd have better software and =
therefore earn more money...=20
of course the people who run aw are to blame for this... not the =
programmers=20
if you get a program for free.. you CANT complain.. if you dont =
like it DONT use it=20
if you pay for software that you didnt get to try out first THEN =
you can complain, otherwise its your decision=20
use ot or dont use it=20
|
if roland wasn't what i thought of as a good programer, then i =
wouldn't=20
praise him.. but i feel he is, and therefore i do... you =
wonder why he might=20
be unmotivated to do the things some of you demand... it's =
perfectly clear=20
to me why he does not..=20
--=20
J B E L L=20
http://platinum.awjbell.com=20
G O I N G P L A T I N U M=20
[View Quote] "35850" <!> wrote in message =
news:3a7f45fe$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...=20
> Difficulty is not an excuse for incompetence. Besides, it's =
all relative;=20
> programming is a difficult field compared to, for example, =
cleaning=20
floors,=20
> but that does not give a programmer an excuse to be bad at =
his work. If=20
he=20
> can't handle it, maybe he should be the one mopping.=20
>=20
> As far as, "that must say something abou the programs =
themselves," you're=20
> right. Not for the correct reason, though. The reason =
people like me who=20
> are irritated by the current state of AW continue to watch =
it, and even=20
use=20
> it, is that the idea behind it is excellent, even if the =
implementation is=20
> severely lacking.=20
>=20
> You're not going to improve the world by saying, "you're =
doing great, keep=20
> up the good work," especially if it's not true.=20
>=20
> "j b e l l" <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message=20
> news:3a7f414f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...=20
and their=20
and with=20
> someone=20
much heh...=20
that=20
difficult.. i was=20
there=20
spent ages=20
there..=20
anywho..=20
only would=20
they=20
available.. so i'm=20
gonna=20
their hard work,=20
> and=20
rather then beat=20
want to become=20
slight=20
errors-if=20
it.. that's the=20
continue to=20
> come...=20
the ppl who=20
> designed=20
>=20
>
|
--=20
Tyrell - Alpha Prime - 21.8s 457e 90 - "Mundus vult decipi"=20
"Eat well, stay fit, die anyway."=20
http://www3.sk.sympatico.ca/ty1/index.html=20
http://www.dlcwest.com/~rpatter/index.html=20
ICQ UN - 272905=20
All those who believe in psychokinesis raise my hand.=20
=20
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<A=20
=
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iveworlds.com</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>thx for summarizing my point.. in =
less then 100=20
words.. lol</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>J B E L L<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://platinum.awjbell.com">http://platinum.awjbell.com</A><BR>G=
O I N=20
G P L A T I N U M</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"tyrell" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:tyrell1 at sk.sympatico.ca">tyrell1 at sk.sympatico.ca</A>> =
wrote=20
in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:3A7FE294.8430E311 at sk.sympatico.ca">news:3A7FE294.8430E311 at sk=
..sympatico.ca</A>...</DIV>No,=20
you'r not the only one who thinks this. It's just that those who =
feel like=20
you have long ago stopped either reading or at the very least =
posting to=20
this News Group. We have better things to do... Instead of whining =
all the=20
time about the Software and what it 'isn't' we get on with using =
'what it=20
is'.=20
<P>Want a game, go buy a game. ActiveWorlds isn't one. It's, as you =
pointed=20
out (I believe it was you), it's a Chat Util. It's also a place =
where you=20
can build something, as big (or little) as you want. This is what =
those who=20
recognize what the Software really is are doing.=20
<P>An example of what 'can' be done in Alpha can be found here:=20
<P><A=20
=
href=3D"http://objects.activeworlds.com/cgi-bin/teleport.cgi?aw_6505S_655=
6.80E">http://objects.activeworlds.com/cgi-bin/teleport.cgi?aw_6505S_6556=
..80E</A>=20
<P>(er... yep... another shameless plug for what I'm building, this =
time at=20
Verge City :-) (can't fit any of the Beta features into my old =
location(s)))=20
<P>WARNING - As with everything I build... IT'S MAXED OUT. Those =
with slow=20
system may want to think twice before going there... BUT if you can =
handle=20
it, give it a visit. Best viewed at 120 meters (altho' 50m is ok I =
guess).=20
(If you'r on the Beta List even better...)=20
<P>As anyone who does check this location out can see, I have better =
things=20
to do then complain all the time about what the Software 'can't' do. =
(and of=20
late I'v just been 'mark(ing) as read' the posts in this Group - I =
can't be=20
bothered wading thru' the same old story over and over again)=20
<P>My 2 cents...=20
[View Quote] <P>j b e l l wrote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D"CITE">
<STYLE></STYLE>
<FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>need I remind you it's only $20 =
a year.. i=20
guarantee all of you reading this pay more to connect to the =
internet and=20
yet you don't jump down their throught at every feasible error =
(well some=20
of you do, but that's beyond the point) The point that i'm =
trying to=20
make is that sure, you can complain and whine and moan.. but you =
must act=20
on it to make differance.. your not going to get anywhere by =
saying bad=20
things about ppl who make the software most of us use daily, =
submit a=20
respectable letter if you want to see a differance.. that's what =
you do in=20
real life, and why should that be different here? bashing and =
slamming=20
someone whoms skills are beyond comparison of those whim critize =
his=20
abilities is not away to get anything but ignored.... trust me on =
this=20
one... there is a reason roland doesn't read these NGs.. maybe if =
you were=20
more kind to him, he'd rather listen to your input.. most things =
don't=20
occur without reason.. and i highly doubt that the feelings in =
which you=20
bestow did not become because a person is lacking some personal =
qualities,=20
although that is the case many times, i feel it is best to give =
the=20
benefit of the doubt, perhaps if the tables were to turn, you'de =
want the=20
same.. and i leave you with the golden rule, treat others who =
you'de like=20
to be treated.. I think it is the most widely spread, under =
considered=20
saying of all time.. just stop and think next time you insult =
something=20
which is not convenient for you personally.. ahh.. civilization =
has=20
spoiled us, and once again returned to bite us on the=20
ass...</FONT></FONT> <BR>-- <BR>J B E L L <BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://platinum.awjbell.com">http://platinum.awjbell.com</A> =
<BR>G O=20
I N G P L A T I N U M=20
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">"the=20
derek" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:ImTheDerek at yahoo.com">ImTheDerek at yahoo.com</A>> wrote =
in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:3A7F761A.8C5E176E at yahoo.com">news:3A7F761A.8C5E176E at yahoo.co=
m</A>...the=20
only reason the software in aw sucks is the lack of money aw =
has. <BR>if=20
they could pay more people theyd have better software and =
therefore earn=20
more money... <BR>of course the people who run aw are to blame =
for=20
this... not the programmers=20
<P>if you get a program for free.. you CANT complain.. if you =
dont like=20
it DONT use it <BR>if you pay for software that you didnt get to =
try out=20
first THEN you can complain, otherwise its your decision <BR>use =
ot or=20
dont use it=20
<P>j b e l l wrote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D"CITE">if roland wasn't what i thought of as =
a good=20
programer, then i wouldn't <BR>praise him.. but i feel he is, =
and=20
therefore i do... you wonder why he might <BR>be unmotivated =
to do the=20
things some of you demand... it's perfectly clear <BR>to me =
why he=20
does not..=20
<P>-- <BR>J B E L L <BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://platinum.awjbell.com">http://platinum.awjbell.com</A>=20
<BR>G O I N G P L A T I N U M <BR>"35850" <!> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:3a7f45fe$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com">news:3a7f45fe$1 at server1=
..Activeworlds.com</A>...=20
<BR>> Difficulty is not an excuse for incompetence. =
Besides,=20
it's all relative; <BR>> programming is a difficult field =
compared=20
to, for example, cleaning <BR>floors, <BR>> but that does =
not give=20
a programmer an excuse to be bad at his work. If <BR>he =
<BR>>=20
can't handle it, maybe he should be the one mopping. <BR>> =
<BR>>=20
As far as, "that must say something abou the programs =
themselves,"=20
you're <BR>> right. Not for the correct reason, =
though. =20
The reason people like me who <BR>> are irritated by the =
current=20
state of AW continue to watch it, and even <BR>use <BR>> =
it, is=20
that the idea behind it is excellent, even if the =
implementation is=20
<BR>> severely lacking. <BR>> <BR>> You're not going =
to=20
improve the world by saying, "you're doing great, keep =
<BR>> up the=20
good work," especially if it's not true. <BR>> <BR>> "j =
b e l l"=20
<jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message <BR>> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:3a7f414f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com">news:3a7f414f$1 at server1=
..Activeworlds.com</A>...=20
<BR>> > i think you need to realize the strength of =
programmers=20
and their <BR>> > abilites.....the closest i got to =
programming=20
was using VB and with <BR>> someone <BR>> > else's =
BAS file..=20
so all i did was make interfaces pretty much heh... <BR>that =
<BR>>=20
> and irc scripting which i will laugh if you say is =
difficult.. i=20
was <BR>there <BR>> > for a month and become better then =
some of=20
the ppl who spent ages <BR>there.. <BR>> > but you have =
to=20
expect that from ppl who use dalnet, lol anywho.. <BR>> =
>=20
programming would have to be hard as hell.. otherwise not only =
would=20
<BR>they <BR>> > not be paid well, there would be gobs =
of=20
programs available.. so i'm <BR>gonna <BR>> > =
acknowledge the=20
greatness of all these programmers and their hard work, =
<BR>> and=20
<BR>> > pay for what i use, and praise them for their =
strengths=20
rather then beat <BR>> > them for their weaknesses.. i =
don't=20
think i person would want to become <BR>> > better at =
what they=20
do if they are constantly beaten for slight <BR>errors-if =
<BR>>=20
> you don't like something.. no one is forcing you to use =
it..=20
that's the <BR>> > glory of it all.. you don't have to =
do it..=20
but yet you continue to <BR>> come... <BR>> > so that =
must=20
say something not only about yourself, but the ppl who =
<BR>>=20
designed <BR>> > the programs themselves.. thank you, =
that is=20
all.... <BR>> =
<BR>></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P>-- <BR>Tyrell - Alpha Prime - 21.8s 457e 90 - "Mundus vult =
decipi"=20
<BR>"Eat well, stay fit, die anyway." <BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www3.sk.sympatico.ca/ty1/index.html">http://www3.sk.sympat=
ico.ca/ty1/index.html</A>=20
<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.dlcwest.com/~rpatter/index.html">http://www.dlcwest.co=
m/~rpatter/index.html</A>=20
<BR>ICQ UN - 272905 <BR>All those who believe in psychokinesis raise =
my=20
hand. <BR> </P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Feb 7, 2001, 12:03am
got it, thx
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[View Quote]"agent1" <Agent1 at my.activeworlds.com> wrote in message
news:3a80a615 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Tools->Options...
> Click Send and look at the bottom.
>
> -Agent1
>
>
>
> "j b e l l" <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message
news:3a808cb2 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> i didn't know i was posting in html... damn this microsoft outlook :-(
>
>
|
Feb 6, 2001, 9:49pm
...a point i've been trying to make.. about awci posting, that is..
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[View Quote]"facter" <facter at activeworlds.com> wrote in message
news:3a80831d at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Thats why I do post in here every so often - as I said, I have posted in
> here since these newsgroups first existed back on Russ's servers, and I do
> know the value of posting in here - but, I wont put up with disrespect, or
> slander or anything else such as that - I never have when I posted in here
> as a citizen, and I shant now.
>
> So, any posts in here can be construed as courtesy posts - as long as the
> courtesy is maintained on both sides then I shall do so, but if it is not,
> then as I said, there is no obligation for me to continue to do so.
>
> If I do post in here, there usually wont be many follow up's - because I
do
> not believe in flame wars and ther eis no way I will engage in them (been
> there, done that!) - also, alot of the time I post in here will be my
> personal opinion, and not the opinion of the company - whereas it does
> reflect the opinion of the company I will usually use the words "we"
instead
> of "I" - but, I also will not be involved nor answer questions on company
> policy or any such things as that - it is not my department and I have no
> way to answer anything like that, nor can I answer anything to do with
> beta's or software enhancements or anything to do with programming =)
>
> I'm a techie and a web developer, and thats where I can help, with
> technical/web matters - anything else, and I'm afraid you'll need to ask
> someone else =)
>
> And, I will usually comment in here by just joining into a conversation -
if
> you guys have specific questions - please email them to
> support at activeworlds.com - thats me, you know =P
>
> I do read these newsgroups every day, so know that what is said in here
*is*
> noticed =)
>
> Facter.
>
> "macb" <macb at yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3a8078ee at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> "bunker
> them,
can't
no
between
> are
arguments
> be
a
> the
switch
> at
back
hardware
> off
> newgroups
> they
> two
> fixed -
> problem
> well,
> other
> able
> for
> short
> not
> wish
> little
but
> I
> to
> for
whatsoever
support
> is
> this
here
a
I
Activeworlds
breaks,
> not
news:3A80474C.89172AF3 at tnlc.com...
> it's
> running
would
news:3A80474C.89172AF3 at tnlc.com...
> it's
> running
would
>
>
|
Feb 7, 2001, 12:03am
took the letters strait from my keyboard heh
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[View Quote]"facter" <facter at activeworlds.com> wrote in message
news:3a80ac8b at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> *yawn*
>
> F.
>
>
> "eep" <eep at tnlc.com> wrote in message news:3A80A0DE.E211ABB3 at tnlc.com...
Facter.
> The problem has EVERYTHING to do with AWCI.
back
> up
hardware
> problems.
> Duh.
> off
> right? Yep.
> they
> two
> fixed - I
> ebpages -
> shortly." or some other bullshit statement. Give me a fucking break,
Facter.
> Before you got sucked into AWCI's tangled web you wouldn't take such a
> bullshit statement (no reason there, by the way) in an instant. You've
> changed, man...you went over to the dark side...
> problem
> time,
> them spontaneously "failing" for no explained reason, which you STILL
> haven't stated...
> informed
> standard
> other
to
> READ the newsgroups; the problem was in POSTING to them. Had there been a
> message from you or some other clueless AWCIer about the newsgroup POSTING
> problem, I would not have had to email AWCI "support".
> able to
> for
> short
> did (conviently) say...
> because
> not
will
> yourself show a little
but
> I do
> to
> for
whatsoever
> to
support
> is
> this
here
a
> correspondance
I
Activeworlds
breaks,
> and
> not
> Perhaps a bullshit artist? Yep, that's what I'd say. Rick and JP are
> teaching you well, it seems...fucking clone.
news:3A80474C.89172AF3 at tnlc.com...
> it's
> running
would
> be
news:3A80474C.89172AF3 at tnlc.com...
> it's
> running
would
> be
>
>
|
Feb 7, 2001, 2:18am
amen
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[View Quote]"captain mad mike" <cmadmike at crosswinds.net> wrote in message
news:3a80b648 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> OK so according to you if your ISP decided to mess up on you, you could
call
> yourself incompetent. If you want AW to change at least stop flaming them,
> or seeing that you like the negative approach go buy a gun and take them
> hostage. THEN maybe they'd listen. And we know AW has to do a lot of
things
> so you can just shut up about them.
>
>
|
Feb 7, 2001, 2:41am
wow goober... you had the time and energy to post what i think... I think
the reason a lot of ppl didn't stand up to eep is because he was
intimidating.. but i think all (or most) of us are tired of his shit.. I've
been reading these NGs for only a week or two, and I am already exhaustred
from frustration of reading his nonsensical ramblings... I think he's
probably chicken shit and feels he must bully in order to not be bullied,
i've seen this before.. he must have a low self esteem, inferiority complex
or something to feel the need to lash out at everyone for everything...
however this is false logic... If you want to be respected, then you should
respect.. but that's not what we're talking about.. we're talking about eep
and his inability to criticize constructively.. you don't have to be
negative to say something is not how it should be.. nor do you have to take
offense at every person who dares forget a period, or god forbid speak your
name.. or reply to a post to a specific person.. open your eyes eep, take a
look around, I'm amazed you act the way you do when you try to make yourself
look as though you've been around, and that you are so "superior" to
others.. if so, then you of all ppl should know how to get things done
right.. and how to treat people.. but you don't.. you've been sitting here
in the NG bashing everyone.. a lot of us try to help improve other users
experiences, but you make it very difficult, please take it easy eep, for
the good of everyone... just relax...
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[View Quote]"goober king" <rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu> wrote in message
news:3A80CD14.E70DBFD at acsu.buffalo.edu...
> Ok, Eep. I think you've had enough. I'm going to type this nice and
> slowly so you can grasp it: "Shut... the... hell... up..."
>
> The man is making an EFFORT, here. He doesn't HAVE to post in these
> newsgroups. Hell, he doesn't even have to READ these newsgroups. Yet he
> does, and he responds to post that are actually constructive and/or
> informative. Yours, on the other hand, are nothing more than pissing and
> moaning about how you perceive that AWCI has "fucked up". Blaming Facter
> for the acts of Rick and JP are absolutely unfounded. Facter does not
> own AWCI. Facter does not control AWCI. He is not responsible for the
> acts of his superiors, so lay off!
>
> As for the whole newsgroup issue, if the only way to fix the newsgroup
> problems was to take them offline temporarily, then Facter did
> everything he could to explain the situation. Does it really make sense
> to post a message on a newsgroup if he's just going to be taking down
> that same newsgroup? Besides, if *you* couldn't post anything, what
> makes you think Facter would have had any better luck? If the problem's
> with posting, then *no one* can post, not even Facter. Whatever happened
> to that whole "thinking" thing you're so fond of, anyway? :P
>
> I understand COF has left a bad taste in your mouth. Quite frankly, if
> Rick or JP ever had the cohones to post in here, I'd probably have a few
> choice words for them as well. However, that shouldn't prevent you from
> at least acting respectful towards those who aren't even involved in the
> process. Would you start bitching at Young Shamus if he suddenly found
> the urge to post in here? If so, I find that sad.
>
> I used to think you amusing. Sometimes you simply irritated me. But now
> I just pity you. Please, for the sake of everyone here, and for your own
> integrity, (if you even have any left) grow up. But, if you feel the
> need to continue acting like a buffoon, then you can have the distinct
> pleasure of sucking MY filter... *flick*
>
> eep wrote:
Facter. The problem has EVERYTHING to do with AWCI.
back up
hardware
problems.
Duh.
off
right? Yep.
they
two
fixed - I
webpages -
shortly." or some other bullshit statement. Give me a fucking break, Facter.
Before you got sucked into AWCI's tangled web you wouldn't take such a
bullshit statement (no reason there, by the way) in an instant. You've
changed, man...you went over to the dark side...
problem
time,
them spontaneously "failing" for no explained reason, which you STILL
haven't stated...
informed
standard
other
to READ the newsgroups; the problem was in POSTING to them. Had there been a
message from you or some other clueless AWCIer about the newsgroup POSTING
problem, I would not have had to email AWCI "support".
able to
for
short
did (conviently) say...
because
not
will yourself show a little
but I do
to
for
whatsoever to
support is
this
here
a
correspondance
I
Activeworlds
breaks, and
not
Perhaps a bullshit artist? Yep, that's what I'd say. Rick and JP are
teaching you well, it seems...fucking clone.
news:3A80474C.89172AF3 at tnlc.com...
it's
running
would be
news:3A80474C.89172AF3 at tnlc.com...
it's
running
would be
>
> --
> Goober King
> He's never had to use his filter before... a red-letter day, indeed...
> rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu
|
Feb 7, 2001, 3:07am
i was wondering the same thing... my av99bot loading and erroring all 6
instances that it tries to log in is doing a number on my comp..
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[View Quote]"xero" <xero at darkvapor.com> wrote in message
news:3a80d654$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Hey look, aw is down again today? What this time? Rick trip over the power
> cord?
>
>
|
Feb 7, 2001, 4:16am
my worlds aren't starting at all.. strange...
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[View Quote]"xero" <xero at darkvapor.com> wrote in message
news:3a80d8a9$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Its funny cause my worlds are running fine. Don't tell me, AWs uniserver
is
> 2 parts. One for worlds hosted on a better host. Then one for the browser
on
> a different crappy host? I really wanna see their excuse for this one.
>
>
|
Feb 7, 2001, 1:12pm
typical eep response..
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[View Quote]"eep" <eep at tnlc.com> wrote in message news:3A80F86D.7441AC80 at tnlc.com...
You seem to have a difficult time in reading, Goober. Before you tell ME to
shut up, perhaps you should take your own "advice".
|
> Ok, Eep. I think you've had enough. I'm going to type this nice and
> slowly so you can grasp it: "Shut... the... hell... up..."
>
> The man is making an EFFORT, here. He doesn't HAVE to post in these
> newsgroups. Hell, he doesn't even have to READ these newsgroups. Yet he
> does, and he responds to post that are actually constructive and/or
> informative. Yours, on the other hand, are nothing more than pissing and
> moaning about how you perceive that AWCI has "fucked up". Blaming Facter
> for the acts of Rick and JP are absolutely unfounded. Facter does not
> own AWCI. Facter does not control AWCI. He is not responsible for the
> acts of his superiors, so lay off!
I don't recall ever blaming Facter for AWCI's problems (or the actions of
Rick and JP, in particular). I DO think that Facter is taking on the
"it's-not-my-fault" mentality of Rick and JP, however. He also skirts around
issues like them.
> As for the whole newsgroup issue, if the only way to fix the newsgroup
> problems was to take them offline temporarily, then Facter did
> everything he could to explain the situation. Does it really make sense
> to post a message on a newsgroup if he's just going to be taking down
> that same newsgroup? Besides, if *you* couldn't post anything, what
> makes you think Facter would have had any better luck? If the problem's
> with posting, then *no one* can post, not even Facter. Whatever happened
> to that whole "thinking" thing you're so fond of, anyway? :P
Dunno, are YOU thinking, Goober? Doesn't look like it considering the
newsgroups never went DOWN to the point of not being able to READ them; just
POSTING to them (and perhaps just "Community" since that's the only one I
tried at the time) was down. Since Facter seemingly disabled the ability to
POST to the newsgroups, he could have simply posted he was going to do this
instead of simply disabling posting and putting up a VERY vague system
status message on AW's website. The POINT I'm trying to make is
communication. Facter, like AWCI, fails to communicate things to its users.
Yes, it's gotten MARGINALLY better in recent months, but only through
CONTINUED persistance by disgruntled users/customers. What does this say
about AWCI? To me it shows they STILL don't know how to communicate with its
users/customers and are STILL incompetent in MANY areas (AW
development/direction, marketing, PR, etc, etc).
> I understand COF has left a bad taste in your mouth. Quite frankly, if
> Rick or JP ever had the cohones to post in here, I'd probably have a few
> choice words for them as well. However, that shouldn't prevent you from
> at least acting respectful towards those who aren't even involved in the
> process.
Um, but Facter IS involved in the process--ALL AWCI employees are and I WILL
spout off to them WHENEVER I god damn feel like it. Respect is earned, and
so far I don't feel AWCI has earned MY respect enough for me to give THEM
respect.
> Would you start bitching at Young Shamus if he suddenly found
> the urge to post in here? If so, I find that sad.
Only if he played the same game Rick, JP, and now Facter do...but Shamus
doesn't seem like that...Roland doesn't either...to an extent, but their
INACTION makes them just as guilty as Rick and JP's actions. Shamus, Roland,
HamFon, Flagg, etc, etc, HAVE the power to speak up against Rick and JP, but
they don't seem to.
> I used to think you amusing. Sometimes you simply irritated me. But now
> I just pity you. Please, for the sake of everyone here, and for your own
> integrity, (if you even have any left) grow up. But, if you feel the
> need to continue acting like a buffoon, then you can have the distinct
> pleasure of sucking MY filter... *flick*
<shrug> I won't give up what I believe in...and I believe Rick and JP do NOT
deserve to be in charge of AW. They have CONTINUALLY proven over and over
and, yes, over again that they do NOT know how to deal with their customers
and the public/media relations, etc. They have played sneaky corporate games
that have been outlined on my AW history page
(http://tnlc.com/eep/aw/history.html) ever since they went public. They will
NEVER live this down while I am still around until the admit their mistakes
and change their ways--PERIOD. This is my mission in AW, as it stands
currently, and until things change I will NEVER let up. Think of me what you
will but if you do the research I believe you will understand and perhaps
even agree with me. The thing is most people don't really even CARE enough
about AW to see things from my perspective or even understand them if they
do. But that's fine...different people have different passions. Mine just
happens to be AW and a few other select things--they keep me distracted;
distractions are key to a healthy life, you know.
Feb 8, 2001, 9:36pm
for some reason it seems to me that if you stuck eeps name in there, most of
that applies to him too..
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[View Quote]"eep" <eep at tnlc.com> wrote in message news:3A830E63.6C7DC9A1 at tnlc.com...
> God damn you are so fucking full of yourself, Facter...and hypocritical!
First you say you don't LIKE censorship in ANY way, then you censor me. Then
you make an ultimatum of "either me or him". Is your self-esteem SO
pathetically low that you honestly have to act THIS pathetic in order to
make yourself feel bigger? Good god, Facter, take a look into the fucking
mirror already.
>
> facter wrote:
>
newsgroup be
group,
choice
users
vote,
stay,
keep
here -
the
their
the
vast.
cant
I
issue
news:3A82ECFA.2F5C791C at tnlc.com...
understand
said
manner.
courtesy.
native
the
the
at
talks
based on
imho.
are
if
the
do
>
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Feb 9, 2001, 12:54pm
...and you ppl can tell me that eep is non-ofenssive? have you been reading
this thread at all?
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[View Quote]"eep" <eep at tnlc.com> wrote in message news:3A839315.C1BE10D9 at tnlc.com...
> Wrong again, fucktwat. You never said they were taken down for
MAINTENANCE. You simply said you were working on them and took them
down...for NO EXPLAINED REASON. "Oh, gee, let's see if I can fuck with
things today--oops." My guess is you fucked something up and had to take
them down to fix your stupid mistake. Newsgroups shouldn't need to be taken
down for "maintenance". You're simply the latest incompetent AWCI employee
to fuck things up and tried to weasle yourself out of it. Well too fucking
bad--I called your bluff and now you're sore so then you figured it's time
to ban me. WRONG AGAIN! Keep digging that grave, idiot.
>
> You only stated the TRUE reason after I had to ask NUMEROUS times in
between your ravings about how "mean and nasty" I am towards you. Boo
hoo...cry for me, Facter...cry me a fucking river and see if I give 2 shits
and a piss about you. You play games with me and you're gonna lose EVERY
time. I don't stand for that shit and you should know that by now but
obviously you don't so now you're gonna learn the hard way.
>
> facter wrote:
>
out
>
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Feb 7, 2001, 12:06am
Telegram from Roland, sent just now: 3.1 testing is done...I'm just chasing
after the last few bugs...then we'll be releasing 3.1 to everyone
just thought i'de pass this along, he said it should be ready in a few
days...
(and yes, i know i'm crossposting. .and yes, i'm a hipocrit for doing so,
but i thought i ought to post it so other groups can read it too, groups of
ppl who don't read this NG)
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G O I N G P L A T I N U M
Feb 7, 2001, 1:11pm
unfortunately i can't get to those because i'm at school during that time...
they end right when i get home from school... what a shame huh..
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[View Quote]"nornny" <Nornny at snet.net> wrote in message
news:3a81361f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> If you went to the tech talk, Roland also announced it then. :) just FYI.
:)
> sorry.
>
> Nornny
>
> "j b e l l" <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message
> news:3a80ada1$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> chasing
so,
> of
>
>
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Feb 7, 2001, 10:32pm
i personally think the current one is fine.. heh... now pricing on the other
hand... lol.. especially since hosting costs more then some of the worlds,
even though it bears a light load on the server...
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[View Quote]"facter" <"Facter at AWsupport"> wrote in message
news:3a818a2a$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Okay, heres an open question for all of you - I have a very extensive list
> of features that are being implemented on the new website, what I want to
> know, is what kind of stuff do you guys think would be really handy to
have
> on there ?
>
> I'm open to all good suggestions
>
> Facter
> aka Fletcher Andersen
> AW Support & Webmaster
>
>
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Feb 8, 2001, 1:29am
NO FRAMES! FRAMES SUCK! especially for text based browsers...
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[View Quote]"nova" <n at n.com> wrote in message
news:3a81efaa$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I like the idea bout the drop down list maybe in a lower frame sim to how
> namezero had there lower frame set up you click the drop down box and you
> get a list of sub domains.
> Maybe use a subdomain set up for major areas of the web site ?
> example
>
> http://downloads.activeworlds.com and it would have the download section
> http://status.activewolds.com would have the same info as the curent
network
> status .
> etc
> "xero" <xero at darkvapor.com> wrote in message
> news:3a81ad28$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
>
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Feb 8, 2001, 1:29am
where are those?
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[View Quote]"facter" <facter at activeworlds.com> wrote in message
news:3a81eca4$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
> "j b e l l" <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message
> news:3a81e92f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> other
worlds,
>
> Read the last tech talk logs, I believe an idea in that kind of regards
was
> spoken about in there...not sure when it would happen..but..
>
> F.
>
> list
> to
>
>
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Feb 8, 2001, 9:39pm
i've yet to have any problems with ZA... winME
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[View Quote]"facter" <"Facter at AWsupport"> wrote in message
news:3a830870$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> It has been noticed by us here at Tech support, that the program Zone
Alarm
> and AW really dont work well together - in fact, zone alarm tends to block
> AW from working at all, and treats it as a rouge program.
>
> What I want to know is, have any of you used Zone alarm and got AW working
> with it - the worst things about zonealarm, is that even uninstalling it,
> does not always unblock the ports - for some wierd reason.
>
> Just after anyones experiences with the program =)
>
> F.
>
>
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Feb 8, 2001, 9:43pm
as much as I dislike eep, this is a difficult decision for me... on the one
hand. eep can occasionally bring up good points and topics of conversations,
yet on the other he is also harrassing, insulting, and even emotionally
hurts some people, I feel with eep the negative outways the positive,
generaly in such an open enviroment that is understandable even acceptable,
however when it eventually leads to people leaving the forum, and many great
oppinions and ideas are removed simply because one person harrasses them,
the whole concept loses it's sole purpose, and with this, I, J B E L L,
306161, almost regretfully vote to remove eep from the msg boards due to the
facts listed above, I feel it is the best for the NGs that this be done.
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[View Quote]"facter" <"Facter at AWsupport"> wrote in message
news:3a831e52$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> This post is to vote upon the dismissal from this newsgroup of the user
> "Eep".
>
> This user has been a source of continuous harrasement, abuse, slander,
> derogatory remarks, personal insults and defamitory insults.
>
> The user has been given many avenues to redeem himself in the eyes of the
> newsgroup community, and has been given many opportunities to show himself
a
> decent, productive and respectful member thereof.
>
> Thus, it is the wish of AWCI, to put forth a vote to have the user Eep's
> priviledges of posting into this newsgroup, removed from him for the
> foreseeable future.
>
> AWCI has full authority to ban such user as we see fit, as he has
> continually violated the charter that he agreed to follow when posting
into
> this newsgroup. In order to set a new precedent of community interaction,
we
> have decided to leave this matter up to the community to decide.
>
> There will be one vote per AW citizen, and it will be an open vote. Votes
> will be posted in response to this post, and will be tallied in 24 hours
> from the posted date of this message. End results will be binding, with no
> further discussion entered into - as this is an open vote, the talies will
> be able to be viewed by all members of community.
>
> Votes are to be cast as one of two choices
>
> To have Eep remain int his newsgroup, please vote as <citizen name -
> number> -"Stay"
>
> To vote to have Eep removed, please vote <citizen name - number> -
"Remove".
>
> In making your decision, please review past posts by this user, and use
them
> to make your best judgement on the matter.
>
>
> As the initiator of this vote, I begin the tally by casting my own, as an
> Activeworlds citizen.
>
>
> Facter 159952 - Remove.
>
>
>
> The voting has begun.
>
>
>
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Feb 8, 2001, 9:50pm
lol.. silly man.. free speach went out when govt. came in.. there are a lot
of laws against what you can and can't say-free speach basically states that
you can say what you will against your country or govornment.. politics and
news are basically free.. and you can say almost anything.. but there are a
lot of restrictions, and establishment has the right to create it's own
restrictions..
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[View Quote]"internal affairs" <ji0414 at starlinx.com> wrote in message
news:3a832ef1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Before I begin, Internal Affairs 288703 - Stay
>
> Now that that is out of the way, let me start.
> Eep is simply exercising his right of Freedom of Speech, which if my
Civics
> teacher taught my correctly, is defined in the Bill of Rights, under First
> Amendment, Section B (Added in 1791 of course). If you revoke his right to
> Freedom of Speech, this is going against the Constitution. I do not recall
a
> time when Eep resulted in slander (actually, it would be libel since this
is
> in a form of writing). But if that is the case at stake, then yes, indeed,
> that is against the Law and he should be penalized. But as long as Eep
> remains in his boundaries, in my opinion he should stay as a member of the
> AW Community. He has made many great contributions to this ever-so-growing
> community and he has even won a CY Award for that, more than I can say
about
> a lot of you.
>
> So before you immediately jump the gun and want him kicked out because you
> simply don't like him, think before you do anything else.
>
>
> "facter" <"Facter at AWsupport"> wrote in message
> news:3a831e52$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
the
himself
> a
> into
interaction,
> we
Votes
no
will
> "Remove".
> them
an
>
>
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Feb 8, 2001, 11:15pm
actually.. yes.. i know some ppl who left because they are tired of him and
reading his nonsense..... i don't care to mention the names... becuse they
might not want their names to be mentioned...
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[View Quote]"nornny" <Nornny at snet.net> wrote in message
news:3a83307c$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Your post brought up a thought. Has Eep EVER caused anyone to leave the
> newsgroup?
>
> I'm just wondering. :) usually, I see people fighting to the bitter end
with
> Eep. He does stir up some rousing and unusual thoughts and actions from
all
> of us, good and bad. :)
>
> And WHY hasn't Eep posted to this yet? I'm sure he's ready to retaliate.
>
> Nornny
>
> "j b e l l" <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message
> news:3a832f25$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> one
> conversations,
> acceptable,
> great
them,
> the
user
> the
> himself
Eep's
> interaction,
> Votes
hours
with
> no
> will
use
> an
>
>
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