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am i the only one who thinks this? or is it the negative seems to overpower the positive.. (Community)
am i the only one who thinks this? or is it the negative seems to overpower the positive.. // Community
Feb 5, 2001, 10:11pm
i think you need to realize the strength of programmers and their
abilites.....the closest i got to programming was using VB and with someone
else's BAS file.. so all i did was make interfaces pretty much heh... that
and irc scripting which i will laugh if you say is difficult.. i was there
for a month and become better then some of the ppl who spent ages there..
but you have to expect that from ppl who use dalnet, lol anywho..
programming would have to be hard as hell.. otherwise not only would they
not be paid well, there would be gobs of programs available.. so i'm gonna
acknowledge the greatness of all these programmers and their hard work, and
pay for what i use, and praise them for their strengths rather then beat
them for their weaknesses.. i don't think i person would want to become
better at what they do if they are constantly beaten for slight errors-if
you don't like something.. no one is forcing you to use it.. that's the
glory of it all.. you don't have to do it.. but yet you continue to come...
so that must say something not only about yourself, but the ppl who designed
the programs themselves.. thank you, that is all....
--
J B E L L
http://platinum.awjbell.com
G O I N G P L A T I N U M
Feb 5, 2001, 10:31pm
Difficulty is not an excuse for incompetence. Besides, it's all relative;
programming is a difficult field compared to, for example, cleaning floors,
but that does not give a programmer an excuse to be bad at his work. If he
can't handle it, maybe he should be the one mopping.
As far as, "that must say something abou the programs themselves," you're
right. Not for the correct reason, though. The reason people like me who
are irritated by the current state of AW continue to watch it, and even use
it, is that the idea behind it is excellent, even if the implementation is
severely lacking.
You're not going to improve the world by saying, "you're doing great, keep
up the good work," especially if it's not true.
[View Quote]"j b e l l" <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message
news:3a7f414f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> i think you need to realize the strength of programmers and their
> abilites.....the closest i got to programming was using VB and with
someone
> else's BAS file.. so all i did was make interfaces pretty much heh... that
> and irc scripting which i will laugh if you say is difficult.. i was there
> for a month and become better then some of the ppl who spent ages there..
> but you have to expect that from ppl who use dalnet, lol anywho..
> programming would have to be hard as hell.. otherwise not only would they
> not be paid well, there would be gobs of programs available.. so i'm gonna
> acknowledge the greatness of all these programmers and their hard work,
and
> pay for what i use, and praise them for their strengths rather then beat
> them for their weaknesses.. i don't think i person would want to become
> better at what they do if they are constantly beaten for slight errors-if
> you don't like something.. no one is forcing you to use it.. that's the
> glory of it all.. you don't have to do it.. but yet you continue to
come...
> so that must say something not only about yourself, but the ppl who
designed
> the programs themselves.. thank you, that is all....
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Feb 5, 2001, 10:41pm
if roland wasn't what i thought of as a good programer, then i wouldn't
praise him.. but i feel he is, and therefore i do... you wonder why he might
be unmotivated to do the things some of you demand... it's perfectly clear
to me why he does not..
--
J B E L L
http://platinum.awjbell.com
G O I N G P L A T I N U M
[View Quote]"35850" <!> wrote in message news:3a7f45fe$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Difficulty is not an excuse for incompetence. Besides, it's all relative;
> programming is a difficult field compared to, for example, cleaning
floors,
> but that does not give a programmer an excuse to be bad at his work. If
he
> can't handle it, maybe he should be the one mopping.
>
> As far as, "that must say something abou the programs themselves," you're
> right. Not for the correct reason, though. The reason people like me who
> are irritated by the current state of AW continue to watch it, and even
use
> it, is that the idea behind it is excellent, even if the implementation is
> severely lacking.
>
> You're not going to improve the world by saying, "you're doing great, keep
> up the good work," especially if it's not true.
>
> "j b e l l" <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message
> news:3a7f414f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> someone
that
there
there..
they
gonna
> and
errors-if
> come...
> designed
>
>
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Feb 6, 2001, 1:51am
You know what? I think you're both right about some things. One thing I
would like to point out is that having bugs is natural for a program. All
of them are not caused on purpose, but some of them can result if you fail
to think through some very basic things and make a bonehead programming
error. That's the purpose of the beta stage, and making dumb mistakes
happens to everyone, too.
For example, you know why the last Mars probe crashed full tilt into the
planet's surface? The reason was because some scientist made a bonehead
mistake and did not convert some very basic measurements from standard to
metric. Why did he make this mistake? Because the error was so simple it
went right over the scientists head, the people who review all the
calculations, and the people who review the reviewers.
35850 is right. Difficulty is not an excuse for incompetance. It can only
be a obstacle on the way to excellence.
:)
SW Chris
[View Quote]j b e l l <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message
news:3a7f482e at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> if roland wasn't what i thought of as a good programer, then i wouldn't
> praise him.. but i feel he is, and therefore i do... you wonder why he
might
> be unmotivated to do the things some of you demand... it's perfectly clear
> to me why he does not..
>
>
> --
> J B E L L
> http://platinum.awjbell.com
> G O I N G P L A T I N U M
> "35850" <!> wrote in message news:3a7f45fe$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
relative;
> floors,
> he
you're
who
> use
is
keep
> that
> there
> there..
> they
> gonna
work,
beat
become
> errors-if
the
>
>
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Feb 6, 2001, 2:01am
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the only reason the software in aw sucks is the lack of money aw has.
<br>if they could pay more people theyd have better software and therefore
earn more money...
<br>of course the people who run aw are to blame for this... not the programmers
<p>if you get a program for free.. you CANT complain.. if you dont like
it DONT use it
<br>if you pay for software that you didnt get to try out first THEN you
can complain, otherwise its your decision
<br>use ot or dont use it
[View Quote]<p>j b e l l wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>if roland wasn't what i thought of as a good programer,
then i wouldn't
<br>praise him.. but i feel he is, and therefore i do... you wonder why
he might
<br>be unmotivated to do the things some of you demand... it's perfectly
clear
<br>to me why he does not..
<p>--
<br>J B E L L
<br><a href="http://platinum.awjbell.com">http://platinum.awjbell.com</a>
<br>G O I N G P L A T I N U M
<br>"35850" <!> wrote in message <a href="news:3a7f45fe$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com">news:3a7f45fe$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com</a>...
<br>> Difficulty is not an excuse for incompetence. Besides, it's
all relative;
<br>> programming is a difficult field compared to, for example, cleaning
<br>floors,
<br>> but that does not give a programmer an excuse to be bad at his work.
If
<br>he
<br>> can't handle it, maybe he should be the one mopping.
<br>>
<br>> As far as, "that must say something abou the programs themselves,"
you're
<br>> right. Not for the correct reason, though. The reason
people like me who
<br>> are irritated by the current state of AW continue to watch it, and
even
<br>use
<br>> it, is that the idea behind it is excellent, even if the implementation
is
<br>> severely lacking.
<br>>
<br>> You're not going to improve the world by saying, "you're doing great,
keep
<br>> up the good work," especially if it's not true.
<br>>
<br>> "j b e l l" <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message
<br>> <a href="news:3a7f414f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com">news:3a7f414f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com</a>...
<br>> > i think you need to realize the strength of programmers and their
<br>> > abilites.....the closest i got to programming was using VB and
with
<br>> someone
<br>> > else's BAS file.. so all i did was make interfaces pretty much
heh...
<br>that
<br>> > and irc scripting which i will laugh if you say is difficult..
i was
<br>there
<br>> > for a month and become better then some of the ppl who spent ages
<br>there..
<br>> > but you have to expect that from ppl who use dalnet, lol anywho..
<br>> > programming would have to be hard as hell.. otherwise not only
would
<br>they
<br>> > not be paid well, there would be gobs of programs available.. so
i'm
<br>gonna
<br>> > acknowledge the greatness of all these programmers and their hard
work,
<br>> and
<br>> > pay for what i use, and praise them for their strengths rather
then beat
<br>> > them for their weaknesses.. i don't think i person would want to
become
<br>> > better at what they do if they are constantly beaten for slight
<br>errors-if
<br>> > you don't like something.. no one is forcing you to use it.. that's
the
<br>> > glory of it all.. you don't have to do it.. but yet you continue
to
<br>> come...
<br>> > so that must say something not only about yourself, but the ppl
who
<br>> designed
<br>> > the programs themselves.. thank you, that is all....
<br>>
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They need to improve Alphaworld, more tourist would register if they =
weren't so limited, especially when they can be playing far better games =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've said it once (well about 50 times =
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need I remind you it's only $20 a year.. i guarantee all of you reading =
this pay more to connect to the internet and yet you don't jump down =
their throught at every feasible error (well some of you do, but that's =
beyond the point) The point that i'm trying to make is that sure, you =
can complain and whine and moan.. but you must act on it to make =
differance.. your not going to get anywhere by saying bad things about =
ppl who make the software most of us use daily, submit a respectable =
letter if you want to see a differance.. that's what you do in real =
life, and why should that be different here? bashing and slamming =
someone whoms skills are beyond comparison of those whim critize his =
abilities is not away to get anything but ignored.... trust me on this =
one... there is a reason roland doesn't read these NGs.. maybe if you =
were more kind to him, he'd rather listen to your input.. most things =
don't occur without reason.. and i highly doubt that the feelings in =
which you bestow did not become because a person is lacking some =
personal qualities, although that is the case many times, i feel it is =
best to give the benefit of the doubt, perhaps if the tables were to =
turn, you'de want the same.. and i leave you with the golden rule, treat =
others who you'de like to be treated.. I think it is the most widely =
spread, under considered saying of all time.. just stop and think next =
time you insult something which is not convenient for you personally.. =
ahh.. civilization has spoiled us, and once again returned to bite us on =
the ass...
--=20
J B E L L
http://platinum.awjbell.com
G O I N G P L A T I N U M
[View Quote] "the derek" <ImTheDerek at yahoo.com> wrote in message =
news:3A7F761A.8C5E176E at yahoo.com...
the only reason the software in aw sucks is the lack of money aw has.=20
if they could pay more people theyd have better software and therefore =
earn more money...=20
of course the people who run aw are to blame for this... not the =
programmers=20
if you get a program for free.. you CANT complain.. if you dont like =
it DONT use it=20
if you pay for software that you didnt get to try out first THEN you =
can complain, otherwise its your decision=20
use ot or dont use it=20
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if roland wasn't what i thought of as a good programer, then i =
wouldn't=20
praise him.. but i feel he is, and therefore i do... you wonder why =
he might=20
be unmotivated to do the things some of you demand... it's perfectly =
clear=20
to me why he does not..=20
--=20
J B E L L=20
http://platinum.awjbell.com=20
G O I N G P L A T I N U M=20
[View Quote] "35850" <!> wrote in message =
news:3a7f45fe$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...=20
> Difficulty is not an excuse for incompetence. Besides, it's all =
relative;=20
> programming is a difficult field compared to, for example, =
cleaning=20
floors,=20
> but that does not give a programmer an excuse to be bad at his =
work. If=20
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> can't handle it, maybe he should be the one mopping.=20
>=20
> As far as, "that must say something abou the programs themselves," =
you're=20
> right. Not for the correct reason, though. The reason people =
like me who=20
> are irritated by the current state of AW continue to watch it, and =
even=20
use=20
> it, is that the idea behind it is excellent, even if the =
implementation is=20
> severely lacking.=20
>=20
> You're not going to improve the world by saying, "you're doing =
great, keep=20
> up the good work," especially if it's not true.=20
>=20
> "j b e l l" <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message=20
> news:3a7f414f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...=20
their=20
with=20
> someone=20
heh...=20
that=20
was=20
there=20
ages=20
there..=20
anywho..=20
would=20
they=20
i'm=20
gonna=20
hard work,=20
> and=20
then beat=20
become=20
errors-if=20
that's the=20
to=20
> come...=20
who=20
> designed=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>need I remind you it's only $20 a =
year.. i=20
guarantee all of you reading this pay more to connect to the internet =
and yet=20
you don't jump down their throught at every feasible error (well some of =
you do,=20
but that's beyond the point) The point that i'm trying to make is =
that=20
sure, you can complain and whine and moan.. but you must act on it to =
make=20
differance.. your not going to get anywhere by saying bad things about =
ppl who=20
make the software most of us use daily, submit a respectable letter if =
you want=20
to see a differance.. that's what you do in real life, and why should =
that be=20
different here? bashing and slamming someone whoms skills are beyond =
comparison=20
of those whim critize his abilities is not away to get anything but =
ignored....=20
trust me on this one... there is a reason roland doesn't read these =
NGs.. maybe=20
if you were more kind to him, he'd rather listen to your input.. most =
things=20
don't occur without reason.. and i highly doubt that the feelings in =
which you=20
bestow did not become because a person is lacking some personal =
qualities,=20
although that is the case many times, i feel it is best to give the =
benefit of=20
the doubt, perhaps if the tables were to turn, you'de want the same.. =
and i=20
leave you with the golden rule, treat others who you'de like to be =
treated.. I=20
think it is the most widely spread, under considered saying of all =
time.. just=20
stop and think next time you insult something which is not convenient =
for you=20
personally.. ahh.. civilization has spoiled us, and once again returned =
to bite=20
us on the ass...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>J B E L L<BR><A=20
href=3D"http://platinum.awjbell.com">http://platinum.awjbell.com</A><BR>G=
O I N=20
G P L A T I N U M</DIV>
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<DIV>"the derek" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:ImTheDerek at yahoo.com">ImTheDerek at yahoo.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
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m</A>...</DIV>the=20
only reason the software in aw sucks is the lack of money aw has. =
<BR>if they=20
could pay more people theyd have better software and therefore earn =
more=20
money... <BR>of course the people who run aw are to blame for this... =
not the=20
programmers=20
<P>if you get a program for free.. you CANT complain.. if you dont =
like it=20
DONT use it <BR>if you pay for software that you didnt get to try out =
first=20
THEN you can complain, otherwise its your decision <BR>use ot or dont =
use it=20
[View Quote] <P>j b e l l wrote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D"CITE">if roland wasn't what i thought of as a good =
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programer, then i wouldn't <BR>praise him.. but i feel he is, and =
therefore=20
i do... you wonder why he might <BR>be unmotivated to do the things =
some of=20
you demand... it's perfectly clear <BR>to me why he does not..=20
<P>-- <BR>J B E L L <BR><A=20
href=3D"http://platinum.awjbell.com">http://platinum.awjbell.com</A> =
<BR>G O I=20
[View Quote] N G P L A T I N U M <BR>"35850" <!> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:3a7f45fe$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com">news:3a7f45fe$1 at server1=
..Activeworlds.com</A>...=20
<BR>> Difficulty is not an excuse for incompetence. =
Besides, it's=20
all relative; <BR>> programming is a difficult field compared to, =
for=20
example, cleaning <BR>floors, <BR>> but that does not give a =
programmer=20
an excuse to be bad at his work. If <BR>he <BR>> can't =
handle it,=20
maybe he should be the one mopping. <BR>> <BR>> As far as, =
"that must=20
say something abou the programs themselves," you're <BR>> =
right. =20
Not for the correct reason, though. The reason people like me =
who=20
<BR>> are irritated by the current state of AW continue to watch =
it, and=20
even <BR>use <BR>> it, is that the idea behind it is excellent, =
even if=20
the implementation is <BR>> severely lacking. <BR>> <BR>> =
You're=20
not going to improve the world by saying, "you're doing great, keep =
<BR>>=20
up the good work," especially if it's not true. <BR>> <BR>> "j =
b e l=20
l" <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message <BR>> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:3a7f414f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com">news:3a7f414f$1 at server1=
..Activeworlds.com</A>...=20
<BR>> > i think you need to realize the strength of =
programmers and=20
their <BR>> > abilites.....the closest i got to programming =
was using=20
VB and with <BR>> someone <BR>> > else's BAS file.. so all =
i did=20
was make interfaces pretty much heh... <BR>that <BR>> > and =
irc=20
scripting which i will laugh if you say is difficult.. i was =
<BR>there=20
<BR>> > for a month and become better then some of the ppl who =
spent=20
ages <BR>there.. <BR>> > but you have to expect that from ppl =
who use=20
dalnet, lol anywho.. <BR>> > programming would have to be hard =
as=20
hell.. otherwise not only would <BR>they <BR>> > not be paid =
well,=20
there would be gobs of programs available.. so i'm <BR>gonna =
<BR>> >=20
acknowledge the greatness of all these programmers and their hard =
work,=20
<BR>> and <BR>> > pay for what i use, and praise them for =
their=20
strengths rather then beat <BR>> > them for their weaknesses.. =
i don't=20
think i person would want to become <BR>> > better at what =
they do if=20
they are constantly beaten for slight <BR>errors-if <BR>> > =
you don't=20
like something.. no one is forcing you to use it.. that's the =
<BR>> >=20
glory of it all.. you don't have to do it.. but yet you continue to =
<BR>>=20
come... <BR>> > so that must say something not only about =
yourself,=20
but the ppl who <BR>> designed <BR>> > the programs =
themselves..=20
thank you, that is all.... <BR>>=20
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i wasn't aware that a 3d community chat enviroment was suddenly called a =
game, thanks for the correction..
(if your looking for a game aspect.. no wonder your dissappointed with =
aw)
--=20
J B E L L
http://platinum.awjbell.com
G O I N G P L A T I N U M
[View Quote] "sw comit" <swcomit at swcity.net> wrote in message =
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I've said it once (well about 50 times really) and I'll say it again: =
They need to improve Alphaworld, more tourist would register if they =
weren't so limited, especially when they can be playing far better games =
out on the web.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>i wasn't aware that a 3d community chat =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>(if your looking for a game aspect.. no =
wonder your=20
dissappointed with aw)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>J B E L L<BR><A=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've said it once (well about 50 =
times really)=20
and I'll say it again: They need to improve Alphaworld, more =
tourist=20
would register if they weren't so limited, especially when they can be =
playing=20
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thx for summarizing my point.. in less then 100 words.. lol
--=20
J B E L L
http://platinum.awjbell.com
G O I N G P L A T I N U M
[View Quote] "tyrell" <tyrell1 at sk.sympatico.ca> wrote in message =
news:3A7FE294.8430E311 at sk.sympatico.ca...
No, you'r not the only one who thinks this. It's just that those who =
feel like you have long ago stopped either reading or at the very least =
posting to this News Group. We have better things to do... Instead of =
whining all the time about the Software and what it 'isn't' we get on =
with using 'what it is'.=20
Want a game, go buy a game. ActiveWorlds isn't one. It's, as you =
pointed out (I believe it was you), it's a Chat Util. It's also a place =
where you can build something, as big (or little) as you want. This is =
what those who recognize what the Software really is are doing.=20
|
An example of what 'can' be done in Alpha can be found here:=20
http://objects.activeworlds.com/cgi-bin/teleport.cgi?aw_6505S_6556.80E =
(er... yep... another shameless plug for what I'm building, this time =
at Verge City :-) (can't fit any of the Beta features into my old =
location(s)))=20
WARNING - As with everything I build... IT'S MAXED OUT. Those with =
slow system may want to think twice before going there... BUT if you can =
handle it, give it a visit. Best viewed at 120 meters (altho' 50m is ok =
I guess). (If you'r on the Beta List even better...)=20
As anyone who does check this location out can see, I have better =
things to do then complain all the time about what the Software 'can't' =
do. (and of late I'v just been 'mark(ing) as read' the posts in this =
Group - I can't be bothered wading thru' the same old story over and =
over again)=20
My 2 cents...=20
[View Quote]
need I remind you it's only $20 a year.. i guarantee all of you =
reading this pay more to connect to the internet and yet you don't jump =
down their throught at every feasible error (well some of you do, but =
that's beyond the point) The point that i'm trying to make is that =
sure, you can complain and whine and moan.. but you must act on it to =
make differance.. your not going to get anywhere by saying bad things =
about ppl who make the software most of us use daily, submit a =
respectable letter if you want to see a differance.. that's what you do =
in real life, and why should that be different here? bashing and =
slamming someone whoms skills are beyond comparison of those whim =
critize his abilities is not away to get anything but ignored.... trust =
me on this one... there is a reason roland doesn't read these NGs.. =
maybe if you were more kind to him, he'd rather listen to your input.. =
most things don't occur without reason.. and i highly doubt that the =
feelings in which you bestow did not become because a person is lacking =
some personal qualities, although that is the case many times, i feel it =
is best to give the benefit of the doubt, perhaps if the tables were to =
turn, you'de want the same.. and i leave you with the golden rule, treat =
others who you'de like to be treated.. I think it is the most widely =
spread, under considered saying of all time.. just stop and think next =
time you insult something which is not convenient for you personally.. =
ahh.. civilization has spoiled us, and once again returned to bite us on =
the ass... =20
--=20
J B E L L=20
http://platinum.awjbell.com=20
G O I N G P L A T I N U M=20
[View Quote] "the derek" <ImTheDerek at yahoo.com> wrote in message =
news:3A7F761A.8C5E176E at yahoo.com...the only reason the software in aw =
sucks is the lack of money aw has.=20
if they could pay more people theyd have better software and =
therefore earn more money...=20
of course the people who run aw are to blame for this... not the =
programmers=20
if you get a program for free.. you CANT complain.. if you dont =
like it DONT use it=20
if you pay for software that you didnt get to try out first THEN =
you can complain, otherwise its your decision=20
use ot or dont use it=20
|
if roland wasn't what i thought of as a good programer, then i =
wouldn't=20
praise him.. but i feel he is, and therefore i do... you wonder =
why he might=20
be unmotivated to do the things some of you demand... it's =
perfectly clear=20
to me why he does not..=20
--=20
J B E L L=20
http://platinum.awjbell.com=20
G O I N G P L A T I N U M=20
[View Quote] "35850" <!> wrote in message =
news:3a7f45fe$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...=20
> Difficulty is not an excuse for incompetence. Besides, it's =
all relative;=20
> programming is a difficult field compared to, for example, =
cleaning=20
floors,=20
> but that does not give a programmer an excuse to be bad at his =
work. If=20
he=20
> can't handle it, maybe he should be the one mopping.=20
>=20
> As far as, "that must say something abou the programs =
themselves," you're=20
> right. Not for the correct reason, though. The reason people =
like me who=20
> are irritated by the current state of AW continue to watch it, =
and even=20
use=20
> it, is that the idea behind it is excellent, even if the =
implementation is=20
> severely lacking.=20
>=20
> You're not going to improve the world by saying, "you're doing =
great, keep=20
> up the good work," especially if it's not true.=20
>=20
> "j b e l l" <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message=20
> news:3a7f414f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...=20
their=20
and with=20
> someone=20
much heh...=20
that=20
difficult.. i was=20
there=20
ages=20
there..=20
anywho..=20
only would=20
they=20
available.. so i'm=20
gonna=20
hard work,=20
> and=20
rather then beat=20
want to become=20
slight=20
errors-if=20
that's the=20
continue to=20
> come...=20
ppl who=20
> designed=20
>=20
>
|
--=20
Tyrell - Alpha Prime - 21.8s 457e 90 - "Mundus vult decipi"=20
"Eat well, stay fit, die anyway."=20
http://www3.sk.sympatico.ca/ty1/index.html=20
http://www.dlcwest.com/~rpatter/index.html=20
ICQ UN - 272905=20
All those who believe in psychokinesis raise my hand.=20
=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>thx for summarizing my point.. in less =
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<DIV>"tyrell" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:tyrell1 at sk.sympatico.ca">tyrell1 at sk.sympatico.ca</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:3A7FE294.8430E311 at sk.sympatico.ca">news:3A7FE294.8430E311 at sk=
..sympatico.ca</A>...</DIV>No,=20
you'r not the only one who thinks this. It's just that those who feel =
like you=20
have long ago stopped either reading or at the very least posting to =
this News=20
Group. We have better things to do... Instead of whining all the time =
about=20
the Software and what it 'isn't' we get on with using 'what it is'.=20
<P>Want a game, go buy a game. ActiveWorlds isn't one. It's, as you =
pointed=20
out (I believe it was you), it's a Chat Util. It's also a place where =
you can=20
build something, as big (or little) as you want. This is what those =
who=20
recognize what the Software really is are doing.=20
<P>An example of what 'can' be done in Alpha can be found here:=20
<P><A=20
=
href=3D"http://objects.activeworlds.com/cgi-bin/teleport.cgi?aw_6505S_655=
6.80E">http://objects.activeworlds.com/cgi-bin/teleport.cgi?aw_6505S_6556=
..80E</A>=20
<P>(er... yep... another shameless plug for what I'm building, this =
time at=20
Verge City :-) (can't fit any of the Beta features into my old =
location(s)))=20
<P>WARNING - As with everything I build... IT'S MAXED OUT. Those with =
slow=20
system may want to think twice before going there... BUT if you can =
handle it,=20
give it a visit. Best viewed at 120 meters (altho' 50m is ok I guess). =
(If=20
you'r on the Beta List even better...)=20
<P>As anyone who does check this location out can see, I have better =
things to=20
do then complain all the time about what the Software 'can't' do. (and =
of late=20
I'v just been 'mark(ing) as read' the posts in this Group - I can't be =
bothered wading thru' the same old story over and over again)=20
<P>My 2 cents...=20
[View Quote] <P>j b e l l wrote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D"CITE">
<STYLE></STYLE>
<FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>need I remind you it's only $20 a =
year.. i=20
guarantee all of you reading this pay more to connect to the =
internet and=20
yet you don't jump down their throught at every feasible error (well =
some of=20
you do, but that's beyond the point) The point that i'm trying =
to make=20
is that sure, you can complain and whine and moan.. but you must act =
on it=20
to make differance.. your not going to get anywhere by saying bad =
things=20
about ppl who make the software most of us use daily, submit a =
respectable=20
letter if you want to see a differance.. that's what you do in real =
life,=20
and why should that be different here? bashing and slamming someone =
whoms=20
skills are beyond comparison of those whim critize his abilities is =
not away=20
to get anything but ignored.... trust me on this one... there is a =
reason=20
roland doesn't read these NGs.. maybe if you were more kind to him, =
he'd=20
rather listen to your input.. most things don't occur without =
reason.. and i=20
highly doubt that the feelings in which you bestow did not become =
because a=20
person is lacking some personal qualities, although that is the case =
many=20
times, i feel it is best to give the benefit of the doubt, perhaps =
if the=20
tables were to turn, you'de want the same.. and i leave you with the =
golden=20
rule, treat others who you'de like to be treated.. I think it is the =
most=20
widely spread, under considered saying of all time.. just stop and =
think=20
next time you insult something which is not convenient for you =
personally..=20
ahh.. civilization has spoiled us, and once again returned to bite =
us on the=20
ass...</FONT></FONT> <BR>-- <BR>J B E L L <BR><A=20
href=3D"http://platinum.awjbell.com">http://platinum.awjbell.com</A> =
<BR>G O I=20
N G P L A T I N U M=20
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">"the=20
derek" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:ImTheDerek at yahoo.com">ImTheDerek at yahoo.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:3A7F761A.8C5E176E at yahoo.com">news:3A7F761A.8C5E176E at yahoo.co=
m</A>...the=20
only reason the software in aw sucks is the lack of money aw has. =
<BR>if=20
they could pay more people theyd have better software and =
therefore earn=20
more money... <BR>of course the people who run aw are to blame for =
this...=20
not the programmers=20
<P>if you get a program for free.. you CANT complain.. if you dont =
like it=20
DONT use it <BR>if you pay for software that you didnt get to try =
out=20
first THEN you can complain, otherwise its your decision <BR>use =
ot or=20
dont use it=20
<P>j b e l l wrote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D"CITE">if roland wasn't what i thought of as a =
good=20
programer, then i wouldn't <BR>praise him.. but i feel he is, =
and=20
therefore i do... you wonder why he might <BR>be unmotivated to =
do the=20
things some of you demand... it's perfectly clear <BR>to me why =
he does=20
not..=20
<P>-- <BR>J B E L L <BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://platinum.awjbell.com">http://platinum.awjbell.com</A> =
<BR>G=20
O I N G P L A T I N U M <BR>"35850" <!> wrote in =
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:3a7f45fe$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com">news:3a7f45fe$1 at server1=
..Activeworlds.com</A>...=20
<BR>> Difficulty is not an excuse for incompetence. =
Besides,=20
it's all relative; <BR>> programming is a difficult field =
compared=20
to, for example, cleaning <BR>floors, <BR>> but that does not =
give a=20
programmer an excuse to be bad at his work. If <BR>he =
<BR>>=20
can't handle it, maybe he should be the one mopping. <BR>> =
<BR>>=20
As far as, "that must say something abou the programs =
themselves,"=20
you're <BR>> right. Not for the correct reason, =
though. =20
The reason people like me who <BR>> are irritated by the =
current=20
state of AW continue to watch it, and even <BR>use <BR>> it, =
is that=20
the idea behind it is excellent, even if the implementation is =
<BR>>=20
severely lacking. <BR>> <BR>> You're not going to improve =
the=20
world by saying, "you're doing great, keep <BR>> up the good =
work,"=20
especially if it's not true. <BR>> <BR>> "j b e l l"=20
<jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message <BR>> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:3a7f414f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com">news:3a7f414f$1 at server1=
..Activeworlds.com</A>...=20
<BR>> > i think you need to realize the strength of =
programmers=20
and their <BR>> > abilites.....the closest i got to =
programming=20
was using VB and with <BR>> someone <BR>> > else's BAS =
file..=20
so all i did was make interfaces pretty much heh... <BR>that =
<BR>>=20
> and irc scripting which i will laugh if you say is =
difficult.. i=20
was <BR>there <BR>> > for a month and become better then =
some of=20
the ppl who spent ages <BR>there.. <BR>> > but you have to =
expect=20
that from ppl who use dalnet, lol anywho.. <BR>> > =
programming=20
would have to be hard as hell.. otherwise not only would =
<BR>they=20
<BR>> > not be paid well, there would be gobs of programs=20
available.. so i'm <BR>gonna <BR>> > acknowledge the =
greatness of=20
all these programmers and their hard work, <BR>> and <BR>> =
>=20
pay for what i use, and praise them for their strengths rather =
then beat=20
<BR>> > them for their weaknesses.. i don't think i person =
would=20
want to become <BR>> > better at what they do if they are=20
constantly beaten for slight <BR>errors-if <BR>> > you =
don't like=20
something.. no one is forcing you to use it.. that's the =
<BR>> >=20
glory of it all.. you don't have to do it.. but yet you continue =
to=20
<BR>> come... <BR>> > so that must say something not =
only about=20
yourself, but the ppl who <BR>> designed <BR>> > the =
programs=20
themselves.. thank you, that is all.... <BR>>=20
<BR>></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P>-- <BR>Tyrell - Alpha Prime - 21.8s 457e 90 - "Mundus vult decipi" =
<BR>"Eat=20
well, stay fit, die anyway." <BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www3.sk.sympatico.ca/ty1/index.html">http://www3.sk.sympat=
ico.ca/ty1/index.html</A>=20
<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.dlcwest.com/~rpatter/index.html">http://www.dlcwest.co=
m/~rpatter/index.html</A>=20
<BR>ICQ UN - 272905 <BR>All those who believe in psychokinesis raise =
my hand.=20
<BR> </P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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STOP posting in HTML.. Eep had a point. your last 2 messages were 13kb
and 18kb
--
- Tony56 (Tony M.) [chandler56 at mail.com]
"All typos are optical illusions"
____________________________________________________________
[View Quote]j b e l l <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message
news:3a8016ed at server1.Activeworlds.com...
thx for summarizing my point.. in less then 100 words.. lol
|
--
J B E L L
http://platinum.awjbell.com
G O I N G P L A T I N U M
[View Quote] "tyrell" <tyrell1 at sk.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3A7FE294.8430E311 at sk.sympatico.ca...
No, you'r not the only one who thinks this. It's just that those who
feel like you have long ago stopped either reading or at the very least
posting to this News Group. We have better things to do... Instead of
whining all the time about the Software and what it 'isn't' we get on
with using 'what it is'.
Want a game, go buy a game. ActiveWorlds isn't one. It's, as you
pointed out (I believe it was you), it's a Chat Util. It's also a place
where you can build something, as big (or little) as you want. This is
what those who recognize what the Software really is are doing.
|
An example of what 'can' be done in Alpha can be found here:
http://objects.activeworlds.com/cgi-bin/teleport.cgi?aw_6505S_6556.80E
(er... yep... another shameless plug for what I'm building, this time
at Verge City :-) (can't fit any of the Beta features into my old
location(s)))
WARNING - As with everything I build... IT'S MAXED OUT. Those with
slow system may want to think twice before going there... BUT if you can
handle it, give it a visit. Best viewed at 120 meters (altho' 50m is ok
I guess). (If you'r on the Beta List even better...)
As anyone who does check this location out can see, I have better
things to do then complain all the time about what the Software 'can't'
do. (and of late I'v just been 'mark(ing) as read' the posts in this
Group - I can't be bothered wading thru' the same old story over and
over again)
My 2 cents...
[View Quote]
need I remind you it's only $20 a year.. i guarantee all of you
reading this pay more to connect to the internet and yet you don't jump
down their throught at every feasible error (well some of you do, but
that's beyond the point) The point that i'm trying to make is that
sure, you can complain and whine and moan.. but you must act on it to
make differance.. your not going to get anywhere by saying bad things
about ppl who make the software most of us use daily, submit a
respectable letter if you want to see a differance.. that's what you do
in real life, and why should that be different here? bashing and
slamming someone whoms skills are beyond comparison of those whim
critize his abilities is not away to get anything but ignored.... trust
me on this one... there is a reason roland doesn't read these NGs..
maybe if you were more kind to him, he'd rather listen to your input..
most things don't occur without reason.. and i highly doubt that the
feelings in which you bestow did not become because a person is lacking
some personal qualities, although that is the case many times, i feel it
is best to give the benefit of the doubt, perhaps if the tables were to
turn, you'de want the same.. and i leave you with the golden rule, treat
others who you'de like to be treated.. I think it is the most widely
spread, under considered saying of all time.. just stop and think next
time you insult something which is not convenient for you personally..
ahh.. civilization has spoiled us, and once again returned to bite us on
the ass...
--
J B E L L
http://platinum.awjbell.com
G O I N G P L A T I N U M
[View Quote] "the derek" <ImTheDerek at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3A7F761A.8C5E176E at yahoo.com...the only reason the software in aw
sucks is the lack of money aw has.
if they could pay more people theyd have better software and
therefore earn more money...
of course the people who run aw are to blame for this... not the
programmers
if you get a program for free.. you CANT complain.. if you dont
like it DONT use it
if you pay for software that you didnt get to try out first THEN
you can complain, otherwise its your decision
use ot or dont use it
|
if roland wasn't what i thought of as a good programer, then i
wouldn't
praise him.. but i feel he is, and therefore i do... you wonder
why he might
be unmotivated to do the things some of you demand... it's
perfectly clear
to me why he does not..
--
J B E L L
http://platinum.awjbell.com
G O I N G P L A T I N U M
[View Quote] "35850" <!> wrote in message
news:3a7f45fe$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Difficulty is not an excuse for incompetence. Besides, it's
all relative;
> programming is a difficult field compared to, for example,
cleaning
floors,
> but that does not give a programmer an excuse to be bad at his
work. If
he
> can't handle it, maybe he should be the one mopping.
>
> As far as, "that must say something abou the programs
themselves," you're
> right. Not for the correct reason, though. The reason people
like me who
> are irritated by the current state of AW continue to watch it,
and even
use
> it, is that the idea behind it is excellent, even if the
implementation is
> severely lacking.
>
> You're not going to improve the world by saying, "you're doing
great, keep
> up the good work," especially if it's not true.
>
> "j b e l l" <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message
> news:3a7f414f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
their
and with
> someone
much heh...
that
difficult.. i was
there
ages
there..
anywho..
only would
they
available.. so i'm
gonna
hard work,
> and
rather then beat
want to become
slight
errors-if
that's the
continue to
> come...
ppl who
> designed
>
>
|
--
Tyrell - Alpha Prime - 21.8s 457e 90 - "Mundus vult decipi"
"Eat well, stay fit, die anyway."
http://www3.sk.sympatico.ca/ty1/index.html
http://www.dlcwest.com/~rpatter/index.html
ICQ UN - 272905
All those who believe in psychokinesis raise my hand.
Feb 6, 2001, 9:45pm
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--=20
J B E L L
http://platinum.awjbell.com
G O I N G P L A T I N U M
[View Quote] "j b e l l" <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message =
news:3a8016ed at server1.Activeworlds.com...
thx for summarizing my point.. in less then 100 words.. lol
|
--=20
J B E L L
http://platinum.awjbell.com
G O I N G P L A T I N U M
[View Quote] "tyrell" <tyrell1 at sk.sympatico.ca> wrote in message =
news:3A7FE294.8430E311 at sk.sympatico.ca...
No, you'r not the only one who thinks this. It's just that those who =
feel like you have long ago stopped either reading or at the very least =
posting to this News Group. We have better things to do... Instead of =
whining all the time about the Software and what it 'isn't' we get on =
with using 'what it is'.=20
Want a game, go buy a game. ActiveWorlds isn't one. It's, as you =
pointed out (I believe it was you), it's a Chat Util. It's also a place =
where you can build something, as big (or little) as you want. This is =
what those who recognize what the Software really is are doing.=20
|
An example of what 'can' be done in Alpha can be found here:=20
=
http://objects.activeworlds.com/cgi-bin/teleport.cgi?aw_6505S_6556.80E=20
(er... yep... another shameless plug for what I'm building, this =
time at Verge City :-) (can't fit any of the Beta features into my old =
location(s)))=20
WARNING - As with everything I build... IT'S MAXED OUT. Those with =
slow system may want to think twice before going there... BUT if you can =
handle it, give it a visit. Best viewed at 120 meters (altho' 50m is ok =
I guess). (If you'r on the Beta List even better...)=20
As anyone who does check this location out can see, I have better =
things to do then complain all the time about what the Software 'can't' =
do. (and of late I'v just been 'mark(ing) as read' the posts in this =
Group - I can't be bothered wading thru' the same old story over and =
over again)=20
My 2 cents...=20
[View Quote]
need I remind you it's only $20 a year.. i guarantee all of you =
reading this pay more to connect to the internet and yet you don't jump =
down their throught at every feasible error (well some of you do, but =
that's beyond the point) The point that i'm trying to make is that =
sure, you can complain and whine and moan.. but you must act on it to =
make differance.. your not going to get anywhere by saying bad things =
about ppl who make the software most of us use daily, submit a =
respectable letter if you want to see a differance.. that's what you do =
in real life, and why should that be different here? bashing and =
slamming someone whoms skills are beyond comparison of those whim =
critize his abilities is not away to get anything but ignored.... trust =
me on this one... there is a reason roland doesn't read these NGs.. =
maybe if you were more kind to him, he'd rather listen to your input.. =
most things don't occur without reason.. and i highly doubt that the =
feelings in which you bestow did not become because a person is lacking =
some personal qualities, although that is the case many times, i feel it =
is best to give the benefit of the doubt, perhaps if the tables were to =
turn, you'de want the same.. and i leave you with the golden rule, treat =
others who you'de like to be treated.. I think it is the most widely =
spread, under considered saying of all time.. just stop and think next =
time you insult something which is not convenient for you personally.. =
ahh.. civilization has spoiled us, and once again returned to bite us on =
the ass... =20
--=20
J B E L L=20
http://platinum.awjbell.com=20
G O I N G P L A T I N U M=20
[View Quote] "the derek" <ImTheDerek at yahoo.com> wrote in message =
news:3A7F761A.8C5E176E at yahoo.com...the only reason the software in aw =
sucks is the lack of money aw has.=20
if they could pay more people theyd have better software and =
therefore earn more money...=20
of course the people who run aw are to blame for this... not the =
programmers=20
if you get a program for free.. you CANT complain.. if you dont =
like it DONT use it=20
if you pay for software that you didnt get to try out first THEN =
you can complain, otherwise its your decision=20
use ot or dont use it=20
|
if roland wasn't what i thought of as a good programer, then i =
wouldn't=20
praise him.. but i feel he is, and therefore i do... you =
wonder why he might=20
be unmotivated to do the things some of you demand... it's =
perfectly clear=20
to me why he does not..=20
--=20
J B E L L=20
http://platinum.awjbell.com=20
G O I N G P L A T I N U M=20
[View Quote] "35850" <!> wrote in message =
news:3a7f45fe$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...=20
> Difficulty is not an excuse for incompetence. Besides, it's =
all relative;=20
> programming is a difficult field compared to, for example, =
cleaning=20
floors,=20
> but that does not give a programmer an excuse to be bad at =
his work. If=20
he=20
> can't handle it, maybe he should be the one mopping.=20
>=20
> As far as, "that must say something abou the programs =
themselves," you're=20
> right. Not for the correct reason, though. The reason =
people like me who=20
> are irritated by the current state of AW continue to watch =
it, and even=20
use=20
> it, is that the idea behind it is excellent, even if the =
implementation is=20
> severely lacking.=20
>=20
> You're not going to improve the world by saying, "you're =
doing great, keep=20
> up the good work," especially if it's not true.=20
>=20
> "j b e l l" <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message=20
> news:3a7f414f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...=20
and their=20
and with=20
> someone=20
much heh...=20
that=20
difficult.. i was=20
there=20
spent ages=20
there..=20
anywho..=20
only would=20
they=20
available.. so i'm=20
gonna=20
their hard work,=20
> and=20
rather then beat=20
want to become=20
slight=20
errors-if=20
it.. that's the=20
continue to=20
> come...=20
the ppl who=20
> designed=20
>=20
>
|
--=20
Tyrell - Alpha Prime - 21.8s 457e 90 - "Mundus vult decipi"=20
"Eat well, stay fit, die anyway."=20
http://www3.sk.sympatico.ca/ty1/index.html=20
http://www.dlcwest.com/~rpatter/index.html=20
ICQ UN - 272905=20
All those who believe in psychokinesis raise my hand.=20
=20
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message=20
<A=20
=
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iveworlds.com</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>thx for summarizing my point.. in =
less then 100=20
words.. lol</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>J B E L L<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://platinum.awjbell.com">http://platinum.awjbell.com</A><BR>G=
O I N=20
G P L A T I N U M</DIV>
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<DIV>"tyrell" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:tyrell1 at sk.sympatico.ca">tyrell1 at sk.sympatico.ca</A>> =
wrote=20
in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:3A7FE294.8430E311 at sk.sympatico.ca">news:3A7FE294.8430E311 at sk=
..sympatico.ca</A>...</DIV>No,=20
you'r not the only one who thinks this. It's just that those who =
feel like=20
you have long ago stopped either reading or at the very least =
posting to=20
this News Group. We have better things to do... Instead of whining =
all the=20
time about the Software and what it 'isn't' we get on with using =
'what it=20
is'.=20
<P>Want a game, go buy a game. ActiveWorlds isn't one. It's, as you =
pointed=20
out (I believe it was you), it's a Chat Util. It's also a place =
where you=20
can build something, as big (or little) as you want. This is what =
those who=20
recognize what the Software really is are doing.=20
<P>An example of what 'can' be done in Alpha can be found here:=20
<P><A=20
=
href=3D"http://objects.activeworlds.com/cgi-bin/teleport.cgi?aw_6505S_655=
6.80E">http://objects.activeworlds.com/cgi-bin/teleport.cgi?aw_6505S_6556=
..80E</A>=20
<P>(er... yep... another shameless plug for what I'm building, this =
time at=20
Verge City :-) (can't fit any of the Beta features into my old =
location(s)))=20
<P>WARNING - As with everything I build... IT'S MAXED OUT. Those =
with slow=20
system may want to think twice before going there... BUT if you can =
handle=20
it, give it a visit. Best viewed at 120 meters (altho' 50m is ok I =
guess).=20
(If you'r on the Beta List even better...)=20
<P>As anyone who does check this location out can see, I have better =
things=20
to do then complain all the time about what the Software 'can't' do. =
(and of=20
late I'v just been 'mark(ing) as read' the posts in this Group - I =
can't be=20
bothered wading thru' the same old story over and over again)=20
<P>My 2 cents...=20
[View Quote] <P>j b e l l wrote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D"CITE">
<STYLE></STYLE>
<FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>need I remind you it's only $20 =
a year.. i=20
guarantee all of you reading this pay more to connect to the =
internet and=20
yet you don't jump down their throught at every feasible error =
(well some=20
of you do, but that's beyond the point) The point that i'm =
trying to=20
make is that sure, you can complain and whine and moan.. but you =
must act=20
on it to make differance.. your not going to get anywhere by =
saying bad=20
things about ppl who make the software most of us use daily, =
submit a=20
respectable letter if you want to see a differance.. that's what =
you do in=20
real life, and why should that be different here? bashing and =
slamming=20
someone whoms skills are beyond comparison of those whim critize =
his=20
abilities is not away to get anything but ignored.... trust me on =
this=20
one... there is a reason roland doesn't read these NGs.. maybe if =
you were=20
more kind to him, he'd rather listen to your input.. most things =
don't=20
occur without reason.. and i highly doubt that the feelings in =
which you=20
bestow did not become because a person is lacking some personal =
qualities,=20
although that is the case many times, i feel it is best to give =
the=20
benefit of the doubt, perhaps if the tables were to turn, you'de =
want the=20
same.. and i leave you with the golden rule, treat others who =
you'de like=20
to be treated.. I think it is the most widely spread, under =
considered=20
saying of all time.. just stop and think next time you insult =
something=20
which is not convenient for you personally.. ahh.. civilization =
has=20
spoiled us, and once again returned to bite us on the=20
ass...</FONT></FONT> <BR>-- <BR>J B E L L <BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://platinum.awjbell.com">http://platinum.awjbell.com</A> =
<BR>G O=20
I N G P L A T I N U M=20
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">"the=20
derek" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:ImTheDerek at yahoo.com">ImTheDerek at yahoo.com</A>> wrote =
in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:3A7F761A.8C5E176E at yahoo.com">news:3A7F761A.8C5E176E at yahoo.co=
m</A>...the=20
only reason the software in aw sucks is the lack of money aw =
has. <BR>if=20
they could pay more people theyd have better software and =
therefore earn=20
more money... <BR>of course the people who run aw are to blame =
for=20
this... not the programmers=20
<P>if you get a program for free.. you CANT complain.. if you =
dont like=20
it DONT use it <BR>if you pay for software that you didnt get to =
try out=20
first THEN you can complain, otherwise its your decision <BR>use =
ot or=20
dont use it=20
<P>j b e l l wrote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D"CITE">if roland wasn't what i thought of as =
a good=20
programer, then i wouldn't <BR>praise him.. but i feel he is, =
and=20
therefore i do... you wonder why he might <BR>be unmotivated =
to do the=20
things some of you demand... it's perfectly clear <BR>to me =
why he=20
does not..=20
<P>-- <BR>J B E L L <BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://platinum.awjbell.com">http://platinum.awjbell.com</A>=20
<BR>G O I N G P L A T I N U M <BR>"35850" <!> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:3a7f45fe$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com">news:3a7f45fe$1 at server1=
..Activeworlds.com</A>...=20
<BR>> Difficulty is not an excuse for incompetence. =
Besides,=20
it's all relative; <BR>> programming is a difficult field =
compared=20
to, for example, cleaning <BR>floors, <BR>> but that does =
not give=20
a programmer an excuse to be bad at his work. If <BR>he =
<BR>>=20
can't handle it, maybe he should be the one mopping. <BR>> =
<BR>>=20
As far as, "that must say something abou the programs =
themselves,"=20
you're <BR>> right. Not for the correct reason, =
though. =20
The reason people like me who <BR>> are irritated by the =
current=20
state of AW continue to watch it, and even <BR>use <BR>> =
it, is=20
that the idea behind it is excellent, even if the =
implementation is=20
<BR>> severely lacking. <BR>> <BR>> You're not going =
to=20
improve the world by saying, "you're doing great, keep =
<BR>> up the=20
good work," especially if it's not true. <BR>> <BR>> "j =
b e l l"=20
<jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message <BR>> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:3a7f414f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com">news:3a7f414f$1 at server1=
..Activeworlds.com</A>...=20
<BR>> > i think you need to realize the strength of =
programmers=20
and their <BR>> > abilites.....the closest i got to =
programming=20
was using VB and with <BR>> someone <BR>> > else's =
BAS file..=20
so all i did was make interfaces pretty much heh... <BR>that =
<BR>>=20
> and irc scripting which i will laugh if you say is =
difficult.. i=20
was <BR>there <BR>> > for a month and become better then =
some of=20
the ppl who spent ages <BR>there.. <BR>> > but you have =
to=20
expect that from ppl who use dalnet, lol anywho.. <BR>> =
>=20
programming would have to be hard as hell.. otherwise not only =
would=20
<BR>they <BR>> > not be paid well, there would be gobs =
of=20
programs available.. so i'm <BR>gonna <BR>> > =
acknowledge the=20
greatness of all these programmers and their hard work, =
<BR>> and=20
<BR>> > pay for what i use, and praise them for their =
strengths=20
rather then beat <BR>> > them for their weaknesses.. i =
don't=20
think i person would want to become <BR>> > better at =
what they=20
do if they are constantly beaten for slight <BR>errors-if =
<BR>>=20
> you don't like something.. no one is forcing you to use =
it..=20
that's the <BR>> > glory of it all.. you don't have to =
do it..=20
but yet you continue to <BR>> come... <BR>> > so that =
must=20
say something not only about yourself, but the ppl who =
<BR>>=20
designed <BR>> > the programs themselves.. thank you, =
that is=20
all.... <BR>> =
<BR>></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P>-- <BR>Tyrell - Alpha Prime - 21.8s 457e 90 - "Mundus vult =
decipi"=20
<BR>"Eat well, stay fit, die anyway." <BR><A=20
=
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ico.ca/ty1/index.html</A>=20
<BR><A=20
=
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Feb 6, 2001, 11:20pm
And by quoting all of it you're not helping either, Tony...
[View Quote]
> STOP posting in HTML.. Eep had a point. your last 2 messages were 13kb
> and 18kb
Feb 6, 2001, 11:34pm
Tools->Options...
Click Send and look at the bottom.
-Agent1
[View Quote]"j b e l l" <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message news:3a808cb2 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
i didn't know i was posting in html... damn this microsoft outlook :-(
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Feb 6, 2001, 11:43pm
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if tourists werent limited then what would be the point in registering?
<br>the only thing i think is overlimiting is the ability to whisper in
all the worlds no matter what
[View Quote]<p>sw comit wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE><style></style>
<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>I've
said it once (well about 50 times really) and I'll say it again:
They need to improve Alphaworld, more tourist would register if they weren't
so limited, especially when they can be playing far better games out on
the web.</font></font></blockquote>
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Feb 7, 2001, 12:03am
got it, thx
--
J B E L L
http://platinum.awjbell.com
G O I N G P L A T I N U M
[View Quote]"agent1" <Agent1 at my.activeworlds.com> wrote in message
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> Tools->Options...
> Click Send and look at the bottom.
>
> -Agent1
>
>
>
> "j b e l l" <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message
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> i didn't know i was posting in html... damn this microsoft outlook :-(
>
>
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hm - I have definitely more trouble with cleaning floors ;)
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> ... Besides, it's all relative;
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If Active worlds is a CHAT UTILITY then why isn't the CHAT UTILITY of =
better quality, at least comparable to other chat utilities. As it =
stands it can only be called mediocre in that area.
[View Quote]"tyrell" <tyrell1 at sk.sympatico.ca> wrote in message =
news:3A7FE294.8430E311 at sk.sympatico.ca...
No, you'r not the only one who thinks this. It's just that those who =
feel like you have long ago stopped either reading or at the very least =
posting to this News Group. We have better things to do... Instead of =
whining all the time about the Software and what it 'isn't' we get on =
with using 'what it is'.=20
Want a game, go buy a game. ActiveWorlds isn't one. It's, as you =
pointed out (I believe it was you), it's a Chat Util. It's also a place =
where you can build something, as big (or little) as you want. This is =
what those who recognize what the Software really is are doing.=20
|
An example of what 'can' be done in Alpha can be found here:=20
http://objects.activeworlds.com/cgi-bin/teleport.cgi?aw_6505S_6556.80E =
(er... yep... another shameless plug for what I'm building, this time =
at Verge City :-) (can't fit any of the Beta features into my old =
location(s)))=20
WARNING - As with everything I build... IT'S MAXED OUT. Those with =
slow system may want to think twice before going there... BUT if you can =
handle it, give it a visit. Best viewed at 120 meters (altho' 50m is ok =
I guess). (If you'r on the Beta List even better...)=20
As anyone who does check this location out can see, I have better =
things to do then complain all the time about what the Software 'can't' =
do. (and of late I'v just been 'mark(ing) as read' the posts in this =
Group - I can't be bothered wading thru' the same old story over and =
over again)=20
My 2 cents...=20
[View Quote]
need I remind you it's only $20 a year.. i guarantee all of you =
reading this pay more to connect to the internet and yet you don't jump =
down their throught at every feasible error (well some of you do, but =
that's beyond the point) The point that i'm trying to make is that =
sure, you can complain and whine and moan.. but you must act on it to =
make differance.. your not going to get anywhere by saying bad things =
about ppl who make the software most of us use daily, submit a =
respectable letter if you want to see a differance.. that's what you do =
in real life, and why should that be different here? bashing and =
slamming someone whoms skills are beyond comparison of those whim =
critize his abilities is not away to get anything but ignored.... trust =
me on this one... there is a reason roland doesn't read these NGs.. =
maybe if you were more kind to him, he'd rather listen to your input.. =
most things don't occur without reason.. and i highly doubt that the =
feelings in which you bestow did not become because a person is lacking =
some personal qualities, although that is the case many times, i feel it =
is best to give the benefit of the doubt, perhaps if the tables were to =
turn, you'de want the same.. and i leave you with the golden rule, treat =
others who you'de like to be treated.. I think it is the most widely =
spread, under considered saying of all time.. just stop and think next =
time you insult something which is not convenient for you personally.. =
ahh.. civilization has spoiled us, and once again returned to bite us on =
the ass... =20
--=20
J B E L L=20
http://platinum.awjbell.com=20
G O I N G P L A T I N U M=20
[View Quote] "the derek" <ImTheDerek at yahoo.com> wrote in message =
news:3A7F761A.8C5E176E at yahoo.com...the only reason the software in aw =
sucks is the lack of money aw has.=20
if they could pay more people theyd have better software and =
therefore earn more money...=20
of course the people who run aw are to blame for this... not the =
programmers=20
if you get a program for free.. you CANT complain.. if you dont =
like it DONT use it=20
if you pay for software that you didnt get to try out first THEN =
you can complain, otherwise its your decision=20
use ot or dont use it=20
|
if roland wasn't what i thought of as a good programer, then i =
wouldn't=20
praise him.. but i feel he is, and therefore i do... you wonder =
why he might=20
be unmotivated to do the things some of you demand... it's =
perfectly clear=20
to me why he does not..=20
--=20
J B E L L=20
http://platinum.awjbell.com=20
G O I N G P L A T I N U M=20
[View Quote] "35850" <!> wrote in message =
news:3a7f45fe$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...=20
> Difficulty is not an excuse for incompetence. Besides, it's =
all relative;=20
> programming is a difficult field compared to, for example, =
cleaning=20
floors,=20
> but that does not give a programmer an excuse to be bad at his =
work. If=20
he=20
> can't handle it, maybe he should be the one mopping.=20
>=20
> As far as, "that must say something abou the programs =
themselves," you're=20
> right. Not for the correct reason, though. The reason people =
like me who=20
> are irritated by the current state of AW continue to watch it, =
and even=20
use=20
> it, is that the idea behind it is excellent, even if the =
implementation is=20
> severely lacking.=20
>=20
> You're not going to improve the world by saying, "you're doing =
great, keep=20
> up the good work," especially if it's not true.=20
>=20
> "j b e l l" <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message=20
> news:3a7f414f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...=20
their=20
and with=20
> someone=20
much heh...=20
that=20
difficult.. i was=20
there=20
ages=20
there..=20
anywho..=20
only would=20
they=20
available.. so i'm=20
gonna=20
hard work,=20
> and=20
rather then beat=20
want to become=20
slight=20
errors-if=20
that's the=20
continue to=20
> come...=20
ppl who=20
> designed=20
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Tyrell - Alpha Prime - 21.8s 457e 90 - "Mundus vult decipi"=20
"Eat well, stay fit, die anyway."=20
http://www3.sk.sympatico.ca/ty1/index.html=20
http://www.dlcwest.com/~rpatter/index.html=20
ICQ UN - 272905=20
All those who believe in psychokinesis raise my hand.=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If Active worlds is a CHAT UTILITY then =
why isn't=20
the CHAT UTILITY of better quality, at least comparable to other chat =
utilities.=20
As it stands it can only be called mediocre in that area.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"tyrell" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:tyrell1 at sk.sympatico.ca">tyrell1 at sk.sympatico.ca</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
href=3D"news:3A7FE294.8430E311 at sk.sympatico.ca">news:3A7FE294.8430E311 at sk=
..sympatico.ca</A>...</DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">No,=20
you'r not the only one who thinks this. It's just that those who feel =
like you=20
have long ago stopped either reading or at the very least posting to =
this News=20
Group. We have better things to do... Instead of whining all the time =
about=20
the Software and what it 'isn't' we get on with using 'what it is'.=20
<P>Want a game, go buy a game. ActiveWorlds isn't one. It's, as you =
pointed=20
out (I believe it was you), it's a Chat Util. It's also a place where =
you can=20
build something, as big (or little) as you want. This is what those =
who=20
recognize what the Software really is are doing.=20
<P>An example of what 'can' be done in Alpha can be found here:=20
<P><A=20
=
href=3D"http://objects.activeworlds.com/cgi-bin/teleport.cgi?aw_6505S_655=
6.80E">http://objects.activeworlds.com/cgi-bin/teleport.cgi?aw_6505S_6556=
..80E</A>=20
<P>(er... yep... another shameless plug for what I'm building, this =
time at=20
Verge City :-) (can't fit any of the Beta features into my old =
location(s)))=20
<P>WARNING - As with everything I build... IT'S MAXED OUT. Those with =
slow=20
system may want to think twice before going there... BUT if you can =
handle it,=20
give it a visit. Best viewed at 120 meters (altho' 50m is ok I guess). =
(If=20
you'r on the Beta List even better...)=20
<P>As anyone who does check this location out can see, I have better =
things to=20
do then complain all the time about what the Software 'can't' do. (and =
of late=20
I'v just been 'mark(ing) as read' the posts in this Group - I can't be =
bothered wading thru' the same old story over and over again)=20
<P>My 2 cents...=20
[View Quote] <P>j b e l l wrote:=20
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<FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>need I remind you it's only $20 a =
year.. i=20
guarantee all of you reading this pay more to connect to the =
internet and=20
yet you don't jump down their throught at every feasible error (well =
some of=20
you do, but that's beyond the point) The point that i'm trying =
to make=20
is that sure, you can complain and whine and moan.. but you must act =
on it=20
to make differance.. your not going to get anywhere by saying bad =
things=20
about ppl who make the software most of us use daily, submit a =
respectable=20
letter if you want to see a differance.. that's what you do in real =
life,=20
and why should that be different here? bashing and slamming someone =
whoms=20
skills are beyond comparison of those whim critize his abilities is =
not away=20
to get anything but ignored.... trust me on this one... there is a =
reason=20
roland doesn't read these NGs.. maybe if you were more kind to him, =
he'd=20
rather listen to your input.. most things don't occur without =
reason.. and i=20
highly doubt that the feelings in which you bestow did not become =
because a=20
person is lacking some personal qualities, although that is the case =
many=20
times, i feel it is best to give the benefit of the doubt, perhaps =
if the=20
tables were to turn, you'de want the same.. and i leave you with the =
golden=20
rule, treat others who you'de like to be treated.. I think it is the =
most=20
widely spread, under considered saying of all time.. just stop and =
think=20
next time you insult something which is not convenient for you =
personally..=20
ahh.. civilization has spoiled us, and once again returned to bite =
us on the=20
ass...</FONT></FONT> <BR>-- <BR>J B E L L <BR><A=20
href=3D"http://platinum.awjbell.com">http://platinum.awjbell.com</A> =
<BR>G O I=20
N G P L A T I N U M=20
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">"the=20
derek" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:ImTheDerek at yahoo.com">ImTheDerek at yahoo.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:3A7F761A.8C5E176E at yahoo.com">news:3A7F761A.8C5E176E at yahoo.co=
m</A>...the=20
only reason the software in aw sucks is the lack of money aw has. =
<BR>if=20
they could pay more people theyd have better software and =
therefore earn=20
more money... <BR>of course the people who run aw are to blame for =
this...=20
not the programmers=20
<P>if you get a program for free.. you CANT complain.. if you dont =
like it=20
DONT use it <BR>if you pay for software that you didnt get to try =
out=20
first THEN you can complain, otherwise its your decision <BR>use =
ot or=20
dont use it=20
<P>j b e l l wrote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D"CITE">if roland wasn't what i thought of as a =
good=20
programer, then i wouldn't <BR>praise him.. but i feel he is, =
and=20
therefore i do... you wonder why he might <BR>be unmotivated to =
do the=20
things some of you demand... it's perfectly clear <BR>to me why =
he does=20
not..=20
<P>-- <BR>J B E L L <BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://platinum.awjbell.com">http://platinum.awjbell.com</A> =
<BR>G=20
O I N G P L A T I N U M <BR>"35850" <!> wrote in =
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:3a7f45fe$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com">news:3a7f45fe$1 at server1=
..Activeworlds.com</A>...=20
<BR>> Difficulty is not an excuse for incompetence. =
Besides,=20
it's all relative; <BR>> programming is a difficult field =
compared=20
to, for example, cleaning <BR>floors, <BR>> but that does not =
give a=20
programmer an excuse to be bad at his work. If <BR>he =
<BR>>=20
can't handle it, maybe he should be the one mopping. <BR>> =
<BR>>=20
As far as, "that must say something abou the programs =
themselves,"=20
you're <BR>> right. Not for the correct reason, =
though. =20
The reason people like me who <BR>> are irritated by the =
current=20
state of AW continue to watch it, and even <BR>use <BR>> it, =
is that=20
the idea behind it is excellent, even if the implementation is =
<BR>>=20
severely lacking. <BR>> <BR>> You're not going to improve =
the=20
world by saying, "you're doing great, keep <BR>> up the good =
work,"=20
especially if it's not true. <BR>> <BR>> "j b e l l"=20
<jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message <BR>> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:3a7f414f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com">news:3a7f414f$1 at server1=
..Activeworlds.com</A>...=20
<BR>> > i think you need to realize the strength of =
programmers=20
and their <BR>> > abilites.....the closest i got to =
programming=20
was using VB and with <BR>> someone <BR>> > else's BAS =
file..=20
so all i did was make interfaces pretty much heh... <BR>that =
<BR>>=20
> and irc scripting which i will laugh if you say is =
difficult.. i=20
was <BR>there <BR>> > for a month and become better then =
some of=20
the ppl who spent ages <BR>there.. <BR>> > but you have to =
expect=20
that from ppl who use dalnet, lol anywho.. <BR>> > =
programming=20
would have to be hard as hell.. otherwise not only would =
<BR>they=20
<BR>> > not be paid well, there would be gobs of programs=20
available.. so i'm <BR>gonna <BR>> > acknowledge the =
greatness of=20
all these programmers and their hard work, <BR>> and <BR>> =
>=20
pay for what i use, and praise them for their strengths rather =
then beat=20
<BR>> > them for their weaknesses.. i don't think i person =
would=20
want to become <BR>> > better at what they do if they are=20
constantly beaten for slight <BR>errors-if <BR>> > you =
don't like=20
something.. no one is forcing you to use it.. that's the =
<BR>> >=20
glory of it all.. you don't have to do it.. but yet you continue =
to=20
<BR>> come... <BR>> > so that must say something not =
only about=20
yourself, but the ppl who <BR>> designed <BR>> > the =
programs=20
themselves.. thank you, that is all.... <BR>>=20
<BR>></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P>-- <BR>Tyrell - Alpha Prime - 21.8s 457e 90 - "Mundus vult decipi" =
<BR>"Eat=20
well, stay fit, die anyway." <BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www3.sk.sympatico.ca/ty1/index.html">http://www3.sk.sympat=
ico.ca/ty1/index.html</A>=20
<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.dlcwest.com/~rpatter/index.html">http://www.dlcwest.co=
m/~rpatter/index.html</A>=20
<BR>ICQ UN - 272905 <BR>All those who believe in psychokinesis raise =
my hand.=20
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Feb 10, 2001, 7:46pm
Please do not post in HTML, and snip a bit. Your post was 19kb in size, with
less than half a kilobyte coming from you.
But you are right about that - most IRC programs can do a lot more. AW is
quite basic on that part.
rolu
[View Quote]"dearheart" <Fran.Pagdin at Bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:3a85b391 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
If Active worlds is a CHAT UTILITY then why isn't the CHAT UTILITY of better
quality, at least comparable to other chat utilities. As it stands it can
only be called mediocre in that area.
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Feb 10, 2001, 9:09pm
Please don't post in HTML, especially to only add a single line to a long quoted message. 430 lines compared to ~50 lines is less annoying, not to mention no forced background colors and font sizes.
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> If Active worlds is a CHAT UTILITY then why isn't the CHAT UTILITY of better quality, at least comparable to other chat utilities. As it stands it can only be called mediocre in that area.
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