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User dismissal vote

Feb 8, 2001, 11:22pm

i hope everyone saw this..

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User dismissal vote

Feb 8, 2001, 11:41pm

another point of mine.. hehe (brags)

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User dismissal vote

Feb 8, 2001, 11:54pm

just the fact that i'm a little twit :-)

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i think it is extremely rude to insult someone like that based on what they
feel... how inconsiderate can a person get....

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No Confidence Vote

Feb 8, 2001, 11:40pm

aw has management? shows what i know.. and as far as the rest goes... your
claims all appear valid..

1. Failure to create shareholder value.
Agree

2. Inability to attract new customers.
Disagree-for some reason ppl sign up daily....

3. Technical incompetence as demonstrated by recent failures in Eduverse
and Alphaworld.
Somewhat agree-it usued to work great-i'm sure they can eventually get it
working seamlessly again

4. Poor quality products and late delivery of enhancements.
disagree-i've seen worse/later

5. Unacceptable customer relations and sales support.
Strongly Disagree-although I hear a lot of complaints about this, I have
gotten immediate responses from Facter and Noelle on all my
questions/problems.. even help from facter when he wasn't on the clock..

6. Inadequate response to customer complaints.
Agree-I bet they have filters on for complaints...

7. Hiring of unskilled support staff.
Somewhat agree-I have met an occasional staff member who seemed skilled and
adequet, but I don't feel it is the majority, since I have only met so
little amount of staff members that the others must be too unskilled to use
their own software :-)

J B E L L 306161 - Abstain
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don't like to copy this to a new post.. but it proves a point i've long been trying to make..

Feb 8, 2001, 11:23pm

"I don't usually post here but I do have something to say. I have been in
AW
since January 1996. I recently bought my own world and came here to learn
and
ask about object making. I never once asked any questions here. Why? I
was
intimidated by some of the posts made by Eep. I do read most of the posts
here
but after seeing some of the new people being attacked I decided not to
bother
posting. I just wonder how many others are out there who won't post here
because of the intimidation. This is the "community" NG but it doesn't feel
like a community when new people feel intimidated before they ever post the
first post."

-Ivie

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don't like to copy this to a new post.. but it proves a point i've long been trying to make..

Feb 8, 2001, 11:42pm

"Show us a eep post that helped someone.
Yes eep has contributed in the past... the past is not now.. Every post eep
has
entered, has had either a putdown, cursing, or name calling attached to it.
I
fail to see how that helps the community. Don't give me this crap about 'he
means well..." or "thats just the way he is..." etc. He hasn't
"contributed "
anything. Except bitterness and anger at AW and anyone who says something
that
he doesn't agree with. For those of us who enjoy AW and the community, we
are
asskissers in eeps eyes."

Holistic1

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don't like to copy this to a new post.. but it proves a point i've long been trying to make..

Feb 8, 2001, 11:57pm

hmmmm.... whatever you say xero...

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don't like to copy this to a new post.. but it proves a point i've long been trying to make..

Feb 9, 2001, 12:06am

lol.. on this cit, yes..

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don't like to copy this to a new post.. but it proves a point i've long been trying to make..

Feb 9, 2001, 12:29am

wanna see how long i've truly been using AW? do citnum jbell ;-) that's my
original cit...

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don't like to copy this to a new post.. but it proves a point i've long been trying to make..

Feb 9, 2001, 12:30am

don't diss 100000-those aren't 200000, yet they're much older then you can
fathom..

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don't like to copy this to a new post.. but it proves a point i've long been trying to make..

Feb 9, 2001, 3:49am

ha.. that was kinda fun xero..

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My two dollars and fifty-six cents about the recent events...

Feb 9, 2001, 4:08am

I happen to straddle the line on this eep/facter controversy... although i
do feel eep should be removed from the NGs because I feel he intimidates
others into not posting their thoughts and ideas, I don't feel it is being
about the right way. The vote, all though intentions are good, is a bad
idea. You show weakness by having other people make your decisions. If you
want to be treated with the respect you would like, stand firm on your
beliefs and ideas. React with your mind, not your emotions, it's easy to
get carried away, I for one know this firsthand, however just stop for a
second and take a breath, relax, understand what we're considering here and
what this is all about; having fun. There should have been guidlines from
the beginning, and they should have been enforced from the beginning, it
has been proved time and time again you can't give a person rights then
remove them without reason, although i understand you have reason, allowing
it to go on for so long, then punishing him for the ongoing events is
unfair. Ex Posto Facto (or someting like that) You can't try a person for a
charge that occured before a law was made. The guidlines bearing the
harrassment and threats were either not created or not enforced untill
recently, and therfore I feel nothing except for that of this point on are
what he should be held for.

As far as AWCI's management and abilities, yes, there is something
lacking, but where isn't there. I honestly feel that AWCI's community
involvement within the last few years has been slacking, I remember the days
when you could regularly converse with enzo in COFmeta, and occasionally see
JP in AWGZ, but ahh these times have long gone, and so has the spirit of
community in AW. If the management wants the company to grow, they need to
become more involved, but we also must remember that AW is a company like
many others. There are thousands of companies who's managment lack
interaction, and have you ever tried to call Dell computers techincal
support? I did once asking a question about their products before purchase,
not only did I wait half an hour on hold, I was treated like shit by an
arrogant cocky "specialist" whom didn't even understand of what I was
speaking. These are just examples that it could be worse, there are some
AWCI employees that stand out among the rest for community involvment and
help, Whom i'm thinking of is Facter and Noelle, although both have their
flaws, they're only human, and should not be persecuted. I feel we are
holding these people to too high of standards, standards of which we
ourselves could not reach. If we were to go to a store, and asked an
employee for assistance, if they seemed unsure or changed their position, I
doubt we would harrass them the way we harass the people here. Not only
this, but citizenship is only a small amount of AWCIs revenue, and therfore
our requests are most likely not the highest on their list. When your not
treated with the top priority, it is because you probably don't own a large
world or universe, that also needs to be taken into consideration, there is
more to AWCI then just AW, they sell a multitude of universes and softwere,
Outerworlds and Vectorscape among the most known.

Now to Roland and his "inept" capabilites. I personally challange each of
you to do better. Just like stated above I feel you are holding him to
higher standards then meetable. I do, though, think the beta process should
be much more thurough, and not as "rushed" I'm sure AWCI probably gives him
timelines and deadlines, which is an error on their part, creative genius
takes time, and so does insuring everything runs properly. Roland didn't
start the AW program, he merely picked up where others left off, this would
have to be difficult, code changes, and so do people, he doesn't know what
other programmers were thinking, It would be hard to make sure nothing
conflicts with the older coding, with these factors in mind, I feel Roland
is doing a great job as an AW Programmer.

Last but not least, no one is forcing you to do anything here, that's the
beuty of it all. No one is forcing you to post to the NGs, no one is
forcing you to use AW. If you would prefer to complain uncessently, so be
it, that's one of the things that are great, your allowed to do it, but when
you do so, remember you aren't being forced to do anything. If you don't
like the way something is happening, you can easily leave it for something
else. Before you get so hypocritical, remeber what your other options are.
This is all I have to say for now, but I'm sure I'll think of something else
to add or modify in the near future-so expect replies :-)

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Over.

Feb 9, 2001, 1:00pm

yeah... I like you and think you have been a great help overall.. don't let
this negativity get to you-these are the type of people who need a
scapegoat, and what better for a person in higher community position then
themselves to blame the troubles on... it's the american way...

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Over.

Feb 10, 2001, 1:27am

i'm sure if they were speaking to you they would have said your name..

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Over.

Feb 10, 2001, 1:27am

the same reason you choose to insult people..

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On a last note.

Feb 9, 2001, 1:07pm

on please, don't give me that... if all these people weren't just sheep and
following among the others you wouldn't have seemed to "dissatisfy" them..
you were taking a step beyond the call of duty, in attempt to help AW and
it's community, and I commend you for that, you will always be welcome
everywhere I am, facter, your human just like the rest of us, only I feel
you are better then a lot of the people here, you were willing to stand up
to eep, make good points without being insulting, and when it is all said
and done have kept your word and original points, even after much insult and
slander.

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On a last note.

Feb 9, 2001, 10:10pm

yes.. very sorely.. an AWCI staff member is what us "the little guys" need
to insite our whishes to the management "the big guys" The big guys will
just ingore and bump along the little guys untill they have sat in the shoes
of the little guys, facter, a big guy, coming to see what the little guys
are all about is definatelly a step in the right direction, something we
need to get our whishes and complaints commuted to the big, big guys so us
little guys don't get blown over. Facter can help detour us from the path
of getting squished by the big guys giant shoe of egotism, thus making us no
longer people looked down upon by the big guys.. it'll make all of us just a
little bit bigger, ourselves.. (wow.. i wonder if that was as confusing to
read as it was to tyep..)

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"sw chris" <chrisw10 at email.com> wrote in message
news:3a84782f at server1.Activeworlds.com...
: Oh, but there still is a problem. You are leaving, and you'll be sorely
: missed.
:
: I'm not going to preach, but if you want a good example of a backfired
: "community", head on over to http://www.xwlegacy.net/ This little haven
of
: the Star Wars gaming elite is a hell hole. I was a staff member there
: before political infighting, like this whole Eep situation only much much
: much much worse, drove me away.
:
: Before then, I've been in many situations on the losing side that have
been
: as bad as this (losing side meaning the side that didn't agree with a
: certain person who decided he wanted to control everything). Activeworlds
: and its newsgroups are heaven compared to them.
:
: It's just a bump in the road, Facter. Please don't leave. :(
:
: SW Chris
:
:
: "facter" <"Facter at AWsupport"> wrote in message
: news:3a845702$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
: >
: > "nornny" <Nornny at snet.net> wrote in message
: > news:3a845488$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
: > > Exactly, please post your replies. If there's anthing that can show us
: > what
: > > AWCOM is really all about (instead of all the stereotyping and
ignorance
: > > usually seen around here), it'd be replying with personal opinions and
: > > subject matters. :)
: > >
: > > Besides, Eep's toned down, WHAT do you have to be afraid of now if you
: > stay
: > > honest? Unless you're not being honest...
: >
: > Nothing at all, because I am honest - my being afraid or dishonest was
: > never an issue - it was the way I wanted to be treated by members of
this
: > newsgroup that was.
: >
: > Now that this has been settled, there is no problem.
: >
: > Fletcher Anderson
: > AW Tech Support
: >
: >
: > >
: > > Nornny
: > >
: > > "j b e l l" <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message
: > > news:3a84079c at server1.Activeworlds.com...
: > > > on please, don't give me that... if all these people weren't just
: sheep
: > > and
: > > > following among the others you wouldn't have seemed to "dissatisfy"
: > them..
: > > > you were taking a step beyond the call of duty, in attempt to help
AW
: > and
: > > > it's community, and I commend you for that, you will always be
welcome
: > > > everywhere I am, facter, your human just like the rest of us, only I
: > feel
: > > > you are better then a lot of the people here, you were willing to
: stand
: > up
: > > > to eep, make good points without being insulting, and when it is all
: > said
: > > > and done have kept your word and original points, even after much
: insult
: > > and
: > > > slander.
: > > >
: > > > --
: > > > J B E L L
: > > > http://platinum.awjbell.com
: > > > G O I N G P L A T I N U M
: > > >
: > > > "facter" <"Facter at AWsupport"> wrote in message
: > > > news:3a83fbf9 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
: > > > > I may still post in here relavant information if I believe it
: > necessary.
: > > > >
: > > > > I, will not myself, join in any discussions - if there is a post,
: > there
: > > > will
: > > > > be no follow-up replies to it.
: > > > >
: > > > > Newsgroup charter will be enforced, and moderation of insulting,
and
: > > > > derogatory posts will be followed.
: > > > >
: > > > > For myself, I apologise that the efforts I sought were of
: > > dissatisfaction
: > > > to
: > > > > the community.
: > > > >
: > > > > Please direct support questions to me via email at
: > > > support at activeworlds.com
: > > > >
: > > > > Be good to each other, and enjoy your stay in Activeworlds.
: > > > >
: > > > > Facter.
: > > > >
: > > > >
: > > >
: > > >
: > >
: > >
: >
: >
:
:

: applaud:

Feb 9, 2001, 10:10pm

lol, don't diss the order.. they were great manipulators...

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ignore, testing...

Feb 11, 2001, 3:10am

only in aw's community NG could such a huge thread come off of one person
trying to test their news reader software..

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3.1 and teacher

Feb 12, 2001, 10:14pm

i used to be a teacher in awschool, and I can guarantee you that 3.1
commands won't be taught standard... it'll be only by request... they train
the teachers to teach people using 2.2 commands, since 3.* use the same
commands, but a lot of people still use 2.2, so it won't be instructed,
unless a student requests it..

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3.1 and teacher

Feb 18, 2001, 4:47am

actually... i was training under overmind.. never got around to finishing it
though...

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I think that this is something that needs to be discussed.

Feb 11, 2001, 7:56pm

and straight people would never do this, now would they?

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Homosexuals being ejected from AWLD worlds...

Feb 11, 2001, 3:20am

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but your also not gay.. your a 30 yr old hetero.. believe it or not =
based on the childhoods and images thrown into society asking "are gays =
allowed here" is not neccessarily as much as an absurd question as one =
might think. Perhaps this person has had negative experiences because =
of his sexuality and is asking so he knows weather he should leave to =
prevent another unneccessary experience or not.

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internal affairs <ji0414 at starlinx.com> kirjoitti =
viestiss=E4:3a85ecda at server1.Activeworlds.com...
(I know I cross posted this on worldbuilders, but this topic needs =
to get more exposure to the rest of the community. It's an important =
issue)

Everyday, I come across world owners who play God and eject people =
who don't fit in with the rest. Just today, my friend was ejected from =
not one, but three worlds for simply stating that he was gay. What is =
shocking is that these were all AWLD owned worlds, not just privately =
owned worlds. Here is what my friend who happens to be a tourist and gay =
in real life sent me in an e-mail this morning. (Note: In the first =
convo, my friend's name is "I love Craig", and the GK who ejected him =
was named flynn 1.)

"I am use to just staying in private worlds all the time because a =
majority of AW doesn't like gays and don't think too highly upon them. I =
decided that it was time to come out of hiding and visit some public AW =
worlds. I started off by asking if gays were allowed to be there, =
because usually if someone finds out I am gay they will eject me or =
torment me for it. Here is my first visit to awgate... (note: I had to =
cut short some of the comments made by other people not affiliated with =
the situation to save you time on reading it)

Immigration Officer: Welcome to the Gateway to Active Worlds!
"x plorer": h

"x plorer": e

"x plorer": l

"x plorer": l

"x plorer": o

flynn 1: x plorer, be careful hon, the bot dont like ppl to scroll =
:)

"x plorer": okay flynn sorry=20

flynn 1: no prob x plorer, i'd hate you to get booted :)

"I love Craig": hello=20

flynn 1: hi i love craig :)

"CYBORG": Hi

"x plorer": You love Craig!!!!!

"I love Craig": hi flynn

flynn 1: no i dont!!!!

Anonymizer: Privacy Is Our Right !

Zerena: Does anyone know why an imigration officer would eject =
someone?

"I love Craig": I am just wondering, but are gay people allowed =
here?

"I love Craig": because usually I get ejected if someone finds out I =
am gay

flynn 1: hope you are not gonna bring yer bugs to my party :(

flynn 1: we have children here i love craig, we dont have that talk =
here ok?

Zerena: Do you know why imigration would eject someone?

"I love Craig": I am just asking

"I love Craig": no reason for an attitude

flynn 1: I love craig, please stop this now =20
"I love Craig": I do not deserve to be treated this way

flynn 1: oh be quiet you fool, cant you see that it isnt suitable =
chat for a place with kids?

"I love Craig": I do not respect you calling me a fool, flynn

"I love Craig": you are the fool here sir

dUNcE: u are being treated the way gays should be

flynn 1: & i dont care!

"I love Craig": thats exactly the attitude that I dont respect

"I love Craig": "you just don't care" about things

flynn 1: so, report me if you have to. I don't care

"I love Craig": Very well, I will see to it that your status gets =
revoked as gatekeeper

Lady TeaL: This is a place to have fun, not to be tormented by =
homosexuals

"CYBORG": Go ahead eject him

dUNcE: Craig...u can do all the reporting u want..we will all stick =
up 4 flynn

flynn 1: tx ppl

"CYBORG": Homophobe

"I love Craig": well you are just gonna protect flynn whenever he =
gets in trouble

"I love Craig": and then he is just gonna do it again after this

flynn 1: craig, now i'm asking you to stop or leave

"I love Craig": stop what exactly?

"CYBORG": Flyynn needs a big gay man to givr him a lap dance

"I love Craig": I have done nothing wrong

"I love Craig": except being gay...which in your mind is wrong

dUNcE: flynn is a woman u divvocks

Sea Swallow: flynn is not saying its wrong .... just not a subject =
for the gate

"CYBORG": Do you want a lap dance too?

"I love Craig": what is the subject again...refresh my memory

flynn 1: stop this now or I will have to remove you

UsuL 2: Cyborg , you need to keep your comments G -rated too

"CYBORG": You need one

"CYBORG": A lap dance on your laptop

flynn 1: gay people aren't suitable for children in the gate

flynn 1: If someone offends you in any way, remember you can mute =
them by right clicking on their avatar & selecting mute........Wonderful =
feature!

"I love Craig": I don't mean to be rude...but there are children of =
the homosexual decent

UsuL 2: lap dances are hardly G-rated

flynn 1: If you are unsure of the few rules we have here, please =
type "world ruIes" you will be shown our guidelines... thank you!

"I love Craig": world rules

"CYBORG": Howq do you know what a lap dance is? Ms. G-rated

"I love Craig": I don't mean to stir an arguement

"I love Craig": but I just want to remain in the gate for being =
myself and nothing else

dUNcE: wtf has flynn done anyway Craig?

"I love Craig": flynn has been wanting to eject me because I am gay

Luggage: Is there a GK on duty ?

"I love Craig": and my name isn't craig

SMOKE JUMPER1: thats your freedom of choice but i dont want too see =
it

"I love Craig": it's who I love, not my real name

Lady TeaL: Craig leave it alone She is just doing her Job She isn't =
against anyone

"I love Craig": but she is doing her job wrong. she is clearly =
against gays

"MentalyDisturbed": no GKs on duty!!! to good to be true

"CYBORG": You can[t help who you love -- yoou

"CYBORG": you're just gay

"I love Craig": and where does it say in her job descirption that =
you eject homosexual people?

"I love Craig": homosexuals are people too, you know

Immigration Officer: You have been ejected from awgate

After I was ejected for simply being who I am, I wanted to see if I =
would be ejected from other worlds for being gay too. I headed on over =
to AWTeen, and the rest explains itself.

Also note what CYBORG has said through the entire convo. He =
continually expresses offensive comments, yet the GK's only go as far as =
warning him and CYBORG still doesn't stop. Obviously the GK's don't =
really care as much about offensive comments than they do about gay =
people.

Immigration Officer: Welcome to AWTeen! Be sure to attend the Date =
That Geek competition today at 7PM VRT! More information can be found at =
www.shoemakervillage.org/geek.html! A public meeting will be held today =
at 5PM at 19s 3e with XelNaga, Elana87, and MoonBeam!

[Customs Aide]: Welcome, "I love Craig". For the Conduct Guidelines =
please say World Rules or see http://www.activeworlds.com/conduct.html

[Chess Bot]: Welcome to AWTeen, "I love Craig"! Come to the AWTeen =
Game Center South of GZ to play a game of chess or tic-tac-toe! More =
games will be added soon!

"I love Craig": hello

"I love Craig": are gay people allowed in this world or no?

TrekkerX: yes unfortunaly

"I love Craig": unfortunately?

"I love Craig": why is being gay a bad thing?

TrekkerX: goto theworld Gay for gays you gay

"I love Craig": no I will stay here

TrekkerX: i dont like gays

"I love Craig": well that is your problem

TrekkerX: they do werd things to me

Nornny: who even does like gays these days?

"I love Craig": but please dont start an arugment with me about =
being gay

Immigration Officer: You have been ejected from awteen

This one was a lot shorter than the first. I wasn't even given a =
warning for "being gay".

As you can see, I am deeply hurt by all this. The combined =
immaturity and the lack of respect for other people make your little GK =
"helping hand" program a disgrace. You should enforce better screenings, =
and mandatory monitoring of all GK and PK related activity. And =
violation should result to a punishment that equal to the guideline =
broken. If someone applies to be a GK or a PK, they should first become =
a Junior PK or GK or something of the same equivalency. They will be =
monitored and tested at random times without them knowing to see how =
they handle certain situations. Maybe you should even go as far as =
policing your own police. Right now you have the GKs and PKs policing =
the community, yet no one policing them. Setting up an internal or =
external affairs unit would resolve all conflicts between GKs & PKs and =
the community. They should stop playing God, because there not good at =
it. Please do something...

My people have spoken"

This kind of stuff shouldn't be happening and it is a disgrace that =
not only is it happening in the real world, but also online. You all =
should be ashamed of yourselves for depriving someone of there fun on =
the internet simply because of who they are.

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<DIV>but your also not gay.. your a 30 yr =
old hetero..=20
believe it or not based on the childhoods and images thrown into society =
asking=20
"are gays allowed here" is not neccessarily as much as an absurd =
question as one=20
might think.  Perhaps this person has had negative experiences =
because of=20
his sexuality and is asking so he knows weather he should leave to =
prevent=20
another unneccessary experience or not.</DIV>
<DIV> -- J B E L L <A=20
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O I N=20
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wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:3a861707 at server1.Activeworlds.com">news:3a861707 at server1.Act=
iveworlds.com</A>...</DIV>
<DIV>Ejecting someone for beeing gay is =
not right,BUT=20
I do not understand why one starts a conversation with "is gay people =
allowed=20
here?".I do not go into a world asking "is 30 years old hetero men =
allowed=20
here?";I usually start by saying hello and by talking about whatever =
the=20
subject is.I do not consider it to be important for me to know the =
sexual=20
preference of the other person until I am about to date=20
him/her.Hetero/Bi/Homosexual persons are more than welcome into my=20
worlds,because I actually do not give a shit about their sexual=20
preference;idiots beeing hetero/bi/homosexual might find themselves =
ejected at=20
some point though.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Drac</DIV>
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<DIV>internal affairs <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:ji0414 at starlinx.com">ji0414 at starlinx.com</A>> =
kirjoitti <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:viestiss=E4:3a85ecda at server1.Activeworlds.com">viestiss=E4=
:3a85ecda at server1.Activeworlds.com</A>...</DIV>
<DIV>(I know I cross posted this on =
worldbuilders,=20
but this topic needs to get more exposure to the rest of the =
community. It's=20
an important issue)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>Everyday, I come across world =
owners who play=20
God and eject people who don't fit in with the rest. Just =
today, my=20
friend was ejected from not one, but three worlds for simply stating =
that he=20
was gay. What is shocking is that these were all AWLD owned worlds, =
not just=20
privately owned worlds. Here is what my friend who happens to be a =
tourist=20
and gay in real life sent me in an e-mail this morning. (Note: In =
the first=20
convo, my friend's name is "I love Craig", and the GK who ejected =
him was=20
named flynn 1.)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>"I am use to =
just staying=20
in private worlds all the time because a majority of AW doesn't like =
gays=20
and don't think too highly upon them. I decided that it was time to =
come out=20
of hiding and visit some public AW worlds. I started off by asking =
if gays=20
were allowed to be there, because usually if someone finds out I am =
gay they=20
will eject me or torment me for it. Here is my first visit to =
awgate...=20
(note: I had to cut short some of the comments made by other people =
not=20
affiliated with the situation to save you time on reading=20
it)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Immigration Officer: Welcome to =
the Gateway=20
to Active Worlds!</DIV>
<DIV>
"x plorer": =
h
"x plorer": e
"x plorer": l
"x plorer": l
"x plorer": o
flynn 1: x =
plorer, be=20
careful hon, the bot dont like ppl to scroll =
:)<FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3D#707070 size=3D1>
"x plorer": okay flynn sorry 
flynn 1: no prob x =
plorer, i'd=20
hate you to get booted :)
"I love =
Craig": hello 
flynn =
1: hi i love=20
craig :)
"CYBORG":=20
Hi
"x plorer": You love Craig!!!!!
"I =
love Craig": hi=20
flynn
flynn 1: no i =
dont!!!!<FONT=20
color=3D#000000 size=3D1>
Anonymizer: Privacy Is Our Right !
Zerena: Does anyone know why an imigration =
officer would=20
eject someone?
"I love=20
Craig": I am just wondering, but are gay people allowed=20
here?
"I =
love Craig":=20
because usually I get ejected if someone finds out I am =
gay
flynn 1: hope you are not gonna bring =
yer bugs to=20
my party :(
flynn 1: we have children here i =
love craig,=20
we dont have that talk here ok?
Zerena: Do you know why imigration =
would eject=20
someone?
"I love=20
Craig": I am just asking
"I love Craig": no reason for =
an=20
attitudeflynn 1:=20
I love craig, please stop this now <FONT=20
color=3D#000000>=20
"I love Craig": I do not deserve to =
be treated=20
this way
flynn 1: oh be quiet you fool, cant =
you see that=20
it isnt suitable chat for a place with kids?
"I love Craig": I do not respect =
you calling=20
me a fool, flynn
"I love Craig": you are the fool here =

sir
dUNcE: u are being treated the way =
gays should=20
be
flynn 1: & i dont =
care!
"I love Craig":=20
thats exactly the attitude that I dont respect
"I love Craig": "you just don't care" =
about=20
things
flynn 1: so, report me if you have =
to. I don't=20
care
"I love =
Craig": Very=20
well, I will see to it that your status gets revoked as=20
gatekeeper
Lady TeaL: This =
is a place to=20
have fun, not to be tormented by homosexuals
"CYBORG": Go =
ahead eject=20
him
dUNcE: =
Craig...u can do all=20
the reporting u want..we will all stick up 4 flynn
flynn =
1: tx=20
ppl
"CYBORG":=20
Homophobe
"I love Craig": well you are =
just gonna=20
protect flynn whenever he gets in trouble
"I love Craig": and then he is just =
gonna do it=20
again after this
flynn 1: craig, now i'm asking you to =
stop or=20
leave
"I =
love Craig":=20
stop what exactly?
"CYBORG": Flyynn needs a big gay man to givr him a lap=20
dance
"I love Craig": I have done nothing=20
wrong
<FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D1>
"I love Craig": except being =
gay...which in=20
your mind is wrong
dUNcE: =
flynn is a=20
woman u divvocks
Sea Swallow: flynn is not saying its =
wrong ....=20
just not a subject for the gate
"CYBORG": Do you want a lap dance=20
too?
"I love Craig": what is the subject=20
again...refresh my memory
flynn 1: stop this =
now or I will=20
have to remove you
UsuL 2: =
Cyborg , you=20
need to keep your comments G -rated too
"CYBORG": You =
need one
"CYBORG": A lap dance on your laptop
flynn 1: =
gay=20
people aren't suitable for children in the =
gate<FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3D#707070 size=3D1>
flynn 1: If =
someone=20
offends you in any way, remember you can mute them by right clicking =
on=20
their avatar & selecting mute........Wonderful feature!
"I love Craig": I don't mean to be rude...but there are children =
of the=20
homosexual decent
UsuL 2: lap dances are hardly G-rated
flynn 1: If =
you are=20
unsure of the few rules we have here, please type "world ruIes" you =
will be=20
shown our guidelines... thank you!
"I love =
Craig": world=20
rules<FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3D#707070 size=3D1>
"CYBORG": Howq =
do you know=20
what a lap dance is? Ms. G-rated
"I love =
Craig": I don't=20
mean to stir an arguement
"I love Craig": but I just want to remain in the gate for being =
myself=20
and nothing else
dUNcE: wtf has flynn done anyway Craig?
"I love =
Craig": flynn has=20
been wanting to eject me because I am gay
Luggage: Is there a GK on duty ?
"I love Craig": and my name isn't craig
SMOKE JUMPER1: thats your freedom of choice but i dont want too =
see=20
it
"I love Craig": it's who I love, not my real name
Lady TeaL: Craig leave it alone She is just doing her Job She =
isn't=20
against anyone
"I love Craig": but she is doing her job wrong. she is =
clearly=20
against gays
"MentalyDisturbed": no GKs on duty!!! to good to be true
"CYBORG": You =
can[t help who=20
you love -- yoou
"CYBORG": you're just =

gay
"I love Craig": and where does it say in her =
job descirption that=20
you eject homosexual people?
"I love =
Craig": homosexuals=20
are people too, you know
Immigration =
Officer: You=20
have been ejected from awgate
After I=20
was ejected for simply being who I am, I wanted to see if I would be =
ejected=20
from other worlds for being gay too. I headed on over to AWTeen, and =
the=20
rest explains itself.
Also note what CYBORG has said =
through the=20
entire convo. He continually expresses offensive comments, =
yet the=20
GK's only go as far as warning him and CYBORG still doesn't=20
stop. Obviously the GK's =
don't really=20
care as much about offensive comments than they do about gay=20
people.
Immigration =
Officer: Welcome=20
to AWTeen! Be sure to attend the Date That Geek competition today at =
7PM=20
VRT! More information can be found at =
www.shoemakervillage.org/geek.html! A=20
public meeting will be held today at 5PM at 19s 3e with XelNaga, =
Elana87,=20
and MoonBeam!
[Customs Aide]: Welcome, "I love Craig". For the Conduct =
Guidelines=20
please say World Rules or see =
http://www.activeworlds.com/conduct.html
[Chess Bot]: Welcome to AWTeen, "I love Craig"! Come to the =
AWTeen Game=20
Center South of GZ to play a game of chess or tic-tac-toe! More =
games will=20
be added soon!
"I love Craig": hello
"I love Craig": are gay people allowed in this world or=20
no?
TrekkerX: yes unfortunaly
"I love Craig": unfortunately?
"I love Craig": why is being gay a bad thing?
TrekkerX: goto theworld Gay for gays you gay
"I love Craig": no I will stay here
TrekkerX: i dont like gays
"I love Craig": well that is your problem
TrekkerX: they do werd things to me
Nornny: who even does like gays these days?
"I love Craig": but please dont start an arugment with me about =
being=20
gay
Immigration Officer: You have been ejected from awteen
This one was a lot shorter =
than the=20
first. I wasn't even given a warning for "being =
gay".
As you can see, I am =
deeply hurt by=20
all this. The combined immaturity and the lack of respect for other =
people=20
make your little GK "helping hand" program a disgrace. You should =
enforce=20
better screenings, and mandatory monitoring of all GK and PK related =

activity. And violation should result to a punishment that equal to =
the=20
guideline broken. If someone applies to be a GK or a PK, they should =
first=20
become a Junior PK or GK or something of the same equivalency. They =
will be=20
monitored and tested  at random times without them knowing to =
see how=20
they handle certain situations. Maybe you should even go as far as =
policing=20
your own police. Right now you have the GKs and =
PKs policing the=20
community, yet no one policing them. Setting up an internal or =
external=20
affairs unit would resolve all conflicts between GKs & PKs =
and the=20
community. They should stop playing God, because there not good at =
it.=20
Please do something...
My people have=20
spoken"
This kind of stuff shouldn't be =
happening and=20
it is a disgrace that not only is it happening in the real =
world,=20
but also online. You all should be ashamed of yourselves for =
depriving=20
someone of there fun on the internet simply because of who they=20
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Homosexuals being ejected from AWLD worlds...

Feb 11, 2001, 6:52pm

i used to practice wicca... but i don't practice anything anymore, yet my
beliefs tend to still follow the wiccan philosophy

--
J B E L L
http://platinum.awjbell.com
G O I N G P L A T I N U M
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"rehabber" <rehabber at swbell.net> wrote in message
news:3A86F6D3.79E3BCEE at swbell.net...
: pretty simple actually. witchcraft is my religion, or more accurately,
: Wicca.
:
: internal affairs wrote:
: >
: > You're a witch? How is that possible?
: >
: > "rehabber" <rehabber at swbell.net> wrote in message
: > news:3A861DD5.9840D205 at swbell.net...
: > > I have to agree with the posts regarding keeping your sexual
preferences
: > > to yourself and not discussing it at worlds where they have
: > > restrictions. I'm not gay but I am a witch and if I go to the Gate
and
: > > start discussing religion I will get ejected. I really hate that but
: > > unless I buy the company there is nothing I can do about it. The big
: > > three NO-NO's to talk about at the Gate or any of the restricted
worlds
: > > are race, religion and sexual preference Like it or not, those are
the
: > > rules. On my worlds you can pretty much talk about what you want but
I
: > > will eject for racial insults, sexual preference insults, religious
: > > insults or open cybering. Other than that the discussions are pretty
: > > much free to progress as they will. Heck, I was at the Gate once when
: > > one of the gatekeepers threatened to eject every citizen just for
being
: > > citizens at the Gate saying that the Gate was just for newbie
tourists.
: > > Gatekeepers, Peacekeepers.. I can name just a handful of decent ones
who
: > > actually try to follow the guidelines of what they represent, the rest
: > > are basically sad individuals that have probably made nothing out of
: > > themselves in real life so they assert what power they are given to
make
: > > themselves look big here. My suggestion about being ejected from the
: > > Gate for talking about being gay is to take it as a lesson learned,
: > > don't do it again unless you enjoy being ejected and find a world
where
: > > you are accepted and go about your business. Not all the AW citizens
are
: > > homophobic...
: > >
: > > Rehabber

Homosexuals being ejected from AWLD worlds...

Feb 11, 2001, 7:57pm

how stereotypical.. not to mention rude... ignorance is not an excuse to
insult...

--
J B E L L
http://platinum.awjbell.com
G O I N G P L A T I N U M
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"internal affairs" <ji0414 at starlinx.com> wrote in message
news:3a87082b at server1.Activeworlds.com...
: A witch on AW? Do you like ride a broom around as an avatar? I can't
believe
: that. No wonder why all your objects have to do with witches. Well I know
: for one thing I am not buying any objects from you anymore.
:
:
: "rehabber" <rehabber at swbell.net> wrote in message
: news:3A86F6D3.79E3BCEE at swbell.net...
: > pretty simple actually. witchcraft is my religion, or more accurately,
: > Wicca.
: >
: > internal affairs wrote:
: > >
: > > You're a witch? How is that possible?
: > >
: > > "rehabber" <rehabber at swbell.net> wrote in message
: > > news:3A861DD5.9840D205 at swbell.net...
: > > > I have to agree with the posts regarding keeping your sexual
: preferences
: > > > to yourself and not discussing it at worlds where they have
: > > > restrictions. I'm not gay but I am a witch and if I go to the Gate
: and
: > > > start discussing religion I will get ejected. I really hate that but
: > > > unless I buy the company there is nothing I can do about it. The
big
: > > > three NO-NO's to talk about at the Gate or any of the restricted
: worlds
: > > > are race, religion and sexual preference Like it or not, those are
: the
: > > > rules. On my worlds you can pretty much talk about what you want
but
: I
: > > > will eject for racial insults, sexual preference insults, religious
: > > > insults or open cybering. Other than that the discussions are pretty
: > > > much free to progress as they will. Heck, I was at the Gate once
when
: > > > one of the gatekeepers threatened to eject every citizen just for
: being
: > > > citizens at the Gate saying that the Gate was just for newbie
: tourists.
: > > > Gatekeepers, Peacekeepers.. I can name just a handful of decent ones
: who
: > > > actually try to follow the guidelines of what they represent, the
rest
: > > > are basically sad individuals that have probably made nothing out of
: > > > themselves in real life so they assert what power they are given to
: make
: > > > themselves look big here. My suggestion about being ejected from
the
: > > > Gate for talking about being gay is to take it as a lesson learned,
: > > > don't do it again unless you enjoy being ejected and find a world
: where
: > > > you are accepted and go about your business. Not all the AW citizens
: are
: > > > homophobic...
: > > >
: > > > Rehabber
:
:

Thank You

Feb 11, 2001, 4:18am

where's my thinks? i had the ad in my world too... ;-)

--
J B E L L
http://platinum.awjbell.com
G O I N G P L A T I N U M
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I was ejected from AWGate for NO REASON

Feb 11, 2001, 11:40pm

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thx for looking into it facter.. i tend to have the same view you do.. =
i'm not so sure about the accuracy of this info..

--=20
J B E L L
http://platinum.awjbell.com
G O I N G P L A T I N U M
[View Quote] I think that here, there has been some misleading and possibly =
falsified information - but that also, I have no idea.

I am, if you IA or anyone else cares to look into it, a member of Pink =
Village - and have been for about three years now - issues like this are =
always important to be looked at sometimes, and made sure that =
discrimination and such are never carried out by anyone given the =
priviledges in awci worlds.

The GK's do a good job, but that doesnt always mean that things like =
that dont happen - if they do, then action is taken pretty quickly, and =
GK/PK's that abuse their privs are dealt with effectively. But Nornny? =
Acting like that? I dont know *shrug*

The whole situation is very strange - dont worry, the world logs will =
show what happened. I would say to just calm down, and I think it will =
be passed to Flagg to look into, if he hasnt already.

Facter.
AW Support

[View Quote] Immigration Officer: Welcome to the Gateway to Active Worlds!

[Customs Aide]: Welcome, Internal Affairs. For the Conduct =
Guidelines please say World Rules or see =
http://www.activeworlds.com/conduct.html

[StockQuoteBot]: Hi Internal Affairs. Ask me for stock quotes! =
Whisper HELP or 0:symbol to me, e.g., whisper 0:MSFT :-)

Internal Affairs: Hello

CeeCee: America has tons of building objects BUT their lots are very =
small

Internal Affairs: Good day to you all

CeeCee: Hiyas Internal Affairs

A Citizen: hi internal affairs

Internal Affairs: hello ceecee

SMOKE JUMPER1: hi internal

cabLecar gaL: hiya IA

Internal Affairs: Have you read the newsgroups yet?

Internal Affairs: About the "situtation"?

cabLecar gaL: sorry I can't say I have IA

Internal Affairs: Very well...

Internal Affairs: Where did VindicatorIII go?

cabLecar gaL: he is brb for a bit

cabLecar gaL: he will be back

CeeCee: Don't know IA he said brb and he hasen't come back yet

Internal Affairs: Very strange

Internal Affairs: Did he sign off?

cabLecar gaL: no IA

Internal Affairs: Is there a need for concern?

cabLecar gaL: nope IA he is still here

Internal Affairs: I se

Internal Affairs: err see excuse me

cabLecar gaL: hun I have not read it so I donm't know

Optimus Prime: Hello everyone :-))

Internal Affairs: hello OP

Internal Affairs: Good Afternoon OP

"xxsandmanxx": Hi Op.

CeeCee: (((((((((((( OP )))))))))

SMOKE JUMPER1: hi optimus

VindicatorIII: back

Optimus Prime: hello all It is once again time For Prime Time

Internal Affairs: Hello VindicatorIII

VindicatorIII: To FLY in AW, use the Plus (+) and Minus (-) keys on =
your numeric keypad. Plus to go UP and Minus to come back DOWN again.

Internal Affairs: Spreading some welcome back macros ehy lol?

CeeCee: lol IA

VindicatorIII: You are now warned

Internal Affairs: why what did I do???

Immigration Officer: You have been ejected from awgate

After being ejected, I had no idea why. I didn't break ANY =
guidelines, so I telegramed VindicatorIII and here is what she said in =
response:

Telegram from VindicatorIII, sent 8 minutes ago:=20

This is the only message you will get tonight. Your IP address and =
the full chat log and copies of your telegrams have been passed to AW. I =
intend to have your Citizenship cancelled

I told her that I would report her for misconduct, and this is what =
she said back to me:

Telegram from VindicatorIII, sent 6 minutes ago:=20

You go right ahead.

Telegramming her again resulted in no such luck. I, honestly, have =
no idea why this had to happen. It could be something with what happened =
yesterday in the gate with Craig, but I am not sure. I am very =
disappointed in the current GK program. If this kind of behavior keeps =
up, I can guarantee you they won't be seeing another $20 for my renewal =
next year, nor any referrals from other tourists from registering. They =
really need better screening and more careful monitoring of your GKs.=20

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to have the=20
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<DIV> -- J B E L L <A=20
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wrote in=20
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=
href=3D"news:3a871fa6 at server1.Activeworlds.com">news:3a871fa6 at server1.Act=
iveworlds.com</A>...</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>A simple check of world logs can show exactly who was ejected, =
and by=20
who. I'll see if Flagg can look into the whole thing tomorrow.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I think that here, there has been some misleading and possibly =
falsified=20
information - but that also, I have no idea.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I am, if you IA or anyone else cares to look into it, a =
member=20
of Pink Village - and have been for about three years now - issues =
like this=20
are always important to be looked at sometimes, and made sure that=20
discrimination and such are never carried out by anyone given the =
priviledges=20
in awci worlds.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The GK's do a good job, but that =
doesnt always=20
mean that things like that dont happen - if they do, then action =
is taken=20
pretty quickly, and GK/PK's that abuse their privs are dealt with =
effectively.=20
But Nornny? Acting like that? I dont know *shrug*</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The whole situation is very strange - =
dont worry,=20
the world logs will show what happened. I would say to just calm down, =
and I=20
think it will be passed to Flagg to look into, if he hasnt=20
already.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Facter.</DIV>
<DIV>AW Support</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>"internal affairs" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:ji0414 at starlinx.com">ji0414 at starlinx.com</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A=20
=
href=3D"news:3a8712ef at server1.Activeworlds.com">news:3a8712ef at server1.Act=
iveworlds.com</A>...</DIV></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>
<DIV>I am very confused right now, but I =
was just=20
ejected from AWGate for simply saying nothing more than a "hello". I =
am=20
assuming this was motivated by what it says on the newsgroups about =
GK's=20
ejecting other gays, but I am not sure. This is the chat log as =
follows=20
explaining what happened EXACTLY: (Note: The only thing edited was =
what some=20
newbie tourists said that didn't relate to anything going. There was =
NOTHING=20
else edited)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIR>
<DIR>
<DIR>
<DIR>
<DIR>
Immigration Officer: Welcome to the Gateway to Active=20
Worlds!
[Customs Aide]: Welcome, Internal Affairs. For the Conduct =
Guidelines=20
please say World Rules or see=20
http://www.activeworlds.com/conduct.html
[StockQuoteBot]: Hi Internal Affairs. Ask me for stock quotes! =
Whisper=20
HELP or 0:symbol to me, e.g., whisper 0:MSFT :-)
Internal Affairs: Hello
CeeCee: America has tons of building objects BUT their lots are =
very=20
small
Internal Affairs: Good day to you all
CeeCee: Hiyas Internal Affairs
A Citizen: hi internal affairs
Internal Affairs: hello ceecee
SMOKE JUMPER1: hi internal
cabLecar gaL: hiya IA
Internal Affairs: =
Have you read the=20
newsgroups yet?
Internal =
Affairs: About the=20
"situtation"?
cabLecar gaL: sorry I =
can't say I=20
have IA
Internal Affairs: =
Very=20
well...
Internal Affairs: =
Where did=20
VindicatorIII go?
cabLecar gaL: he is =
brb for a=20
bit
cabLecar gaL: he will be back
CeeCee: Don't know IA he said brb and he hasen't come back=20
yet
Internal Affairs: Very strange
Internal Affairs: Did he sign off?
cabLecar gaL: no IA
Internal Affairs: Is there a need for concern?
cabLecar gaL: nope IA he is still here
Internal Affairs: I se
Internal Affairs: err see excuse me
cabLecar gaL: hun I have not read it so I donm't know
Optimus Prime: Hello everyone :-))
Internal Affairs: hello OP
Internal Affairs: =
Good Afternoon=20
OP
"xxsandmanxx": Hi Op.
CeeCee: (((((((((((( OP )))))))))
SMOKE JUMPER1: hi optimus
VindicatorIII: back
Optimus Prime: hello all It is once again time For Prime =
Time
Internal =
Affairs: Hello=20
VindicatorIII
VindicatorIII: To FLY in AW, use the Plus (+) and Minus (-) keys =
on your=20
numeric keypad. Plus to go UP and Minus to come back DOWN=20
again.
Internal Affairs: =
Spreading some=20
welcome back macros ehy lol?
CeeCee: lol IA
VindicatorIII: You are=20
now warned
Internal Affairs: why =
what did I=20
do???</DIR></DIR></DIR></DIR></DIR>
Immigration Officer: You have been ejected from awgate
After being ejected, I had no idea =
why. I=20
didn't break ANY guidelines, so I telegramed VindicatorIII and =
here is=20
what she said in response:
Telegram from VindicatorIII, sent =
8 minutes=20
ago: 
This is the only message you will get tonight. Your IP address =
and the=20
full chat log and copies of your telegrams have been passed to AW. I =
intend=20
to have your Citizenship cancelled
I told her that I would =
report her for=20
misconduct, and this is what she said back to me:
Telegram from VindicatorIII, =
sent 6=20
minutes ago: 
You go right ahead.
Telegramming her again resulted in =
no such=20
luck. I, honestly, have no idea why this had to happen. It =
could=20
be something with what happened yesterday in the gate with =
Craig, but I=20
am not sure. I am very disappointed in the current GK =
program. If=20
this kind of behavior keeps up, I can guarantee you =
they won't be=20
seeing another $20 for my renewal next year, nor any referrals from =
other=20
tourists from registering. They really need better screening =
and more=20
careful monitoring of your GKs.=20
=
</DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></H=
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anyone good at cracking?

Feb 11, 2001, 11:18pm

i know this isn't the place.. but is anyone good at cracking reg #s? I have
a program that will "expire" in 30 days unless i give it it's reg code.. the
prog's license fee is $640 and there is no way i'll pay that.. but i'm
dieing for this prog..

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G O I N G P L A T I N U M

anyone good at cracking?

Feb 11, 2001, 11:32pm

Cassandra NNTP server.. warez.com doesn't have it.. i checked...

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http://platinum.awjbell.com
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