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User dismissal vote (Community)
User dismissal vote // Community
Feb 8, 2001, 8:31pm
This post is to vote upon the dismissal from this newsgroup of the user
"Eep".
This user has been a source of continuous harrasement, abuse, slander,
derogatory remarks, personal insults and defamitory insults.
The user has been given many avenues to redeem himself in the eyes of the
newsgroup community, and has been given many opportunities to show himself a
decent, productive and respectful member thereof.
Thus, it is the wish of AWCI, to put forth a vote to have the user Eep's
priviledges of posting into this newsgroup, removed from him for the
foreseeable future.
AWCI has full authority to ban such user as we see fit, as he has
continually violated the charter that he agreed to follow when posting into
this newsgroup. In order to set a new precedent of community interaction, we
have decided to leave this matter up to the community to decide.
There will be one vote per AW citizen, and it will be an open vote. Votes
will be posted in response to this post, and will be tallied in 24 hours
from the posted date of this message. End results will be binding, with no
further discussion entered into - as this is an open vote, the talies will
be able to be viewed by all members of community.
Votes are to be cast as one of two choices
To have Eep remain int his newsgroup, please vote as <citizen name -
number> -"Stay"
To vote to have Eep removed, please vote <citizen name - number> - "Remove".
In making your decision, please review past posts by this user, and use them
to make your best judgement on the matter.
As the initiator of this vote, I begin the tally by casting my own, as an
Activeworlds citizen.
Facter 159952 - Remove.
The voting has begun.
Feb 8, 2001, 8:36pm
Just in case you have not read my reply deep in the heart of "the thread"...
I have chosen not to participate in this vote as I believe it to be unfair to be forced to decide which user I value the most.
-Agent1
[View Quote]"facter" <"Facter at AWsupport"> wrote in message news:3a831e52$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> This post is to vote upon the dismissal from this newsgroup of the user
> "Eep".
>
> This user has been a source of continuous harrasement, abuse, slander,
> derogatory remarks, personal insults and defamitory insults.
>
> The user has been given many avenues to redeem himself in the eyes of the
> newsgroup community, and has been given many opportunities to show himself a
> decent, productive and respectful member thereof.
>
> Thus, it is the wish of AWCI, to put forth a vote to have the user Eep's
> priviledges of posting into this newsgroup, removed from him for the
> foreseeable future.
>
> AWCI has full authority to ban such user as we see fit, as he has
> continually violated the charter that he agreed to follow when posting into
> this newsgroup. In order to set a new precedent of community interaction, we
> have decided to leave this matter up to the community to decide.
>
> There will be one vote per AW citizen, and it will be an open vote. Votes
> will be posted in response to this post, and will be tallied in 24 hours
> from the posted date of this message. End results will be binding, with no
> further discussion entered into - as this is an open vote, the talies will
> be able to be viewed by all members of community.
>
> Votes are to be cast as one of two choices
>
> To have Eep remain int his newsgroup, please vote as <citizen name -
> number> -"Stay"
>
> To vote to have Eep removed, please vote <citizen name - number> - "Remove".
>
> In making your decision, please review past posts by this user, and use them
> to make your best judgement on the matter.
>
>
> As the initiator of this vote, I begin the tally by casting my own, as an
> Activeworlds citizen.
>
>
> Facter 159952 - Remove.
>
>
>
> The voting has begun.
>
>
>
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Feb 8, 2001, 8:40pm
I don't want to vote either, only because Eep doesn't bother me, nor do I
think he should be banned, but I don't like voting either, democracy sucks,
look at the USA, it sucks.
--
-Xero
Feb 8, 2001, 8:42pm
image 265602 - Remove.
Feb 8, 2001, 8:42pm
Sure, no problems - abstaining is fine, but abstains will have no bearing on
the issue. In 24 hours, whatever has the most votes, will be enacted.
Again, I do full heartedly apologise for this whole action being necessary
in the first palce, but he has brought the situation upon himself, and I
did, really, and truely, try to help him remedy the situation.
Trust me, if you dont think I feel really bad about having to do the whole
thing, you are very mistaken.
But the vote continues.
F.
[View Quote]"xero" <xero at darkvapor.com> wrote in message
news:3a832056$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I don't want to vote either, only because Eep doesn't bother me, nor do I
> think he should be banned, but I don't like voting either, democracy
sucks,
> look at the USA, it sucks.
>
> --
> -Xero
>
>
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Feb 8, 2001, 8:51pm
Tony56 [314753] - *S*T*A*Y*
--
- Tony56 (Tony M.) [chandler56 at mail.com]
"All typos are optical illusions"
____________________________________________________________
[View Quote]facter <"Facter at AWsupport"> wrote in message
news:3a831e52$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> This post is to vote upon the dismissal from this newsgroup of the
user
> "Eep".
>
> This user has been a source of continuous harrasement, abuse, slander,
> derogatory remarks, personal insults and defamitory insults.
>
> The user has been given many avenues to redeem himself in the eyes of
the
> newsgroup community, and has been given many opportunities to show
himself a
> decent, productive and respectful member thereof.
>
> Thus, it is the wish of AWCI, to put forth a vote to have the user
Eep's
> priviledges of posting into this newsgroup, removed from him for the
> foreseeable future.
>
> AWCI has full authority to ban such user as we see fit, as he has
> continually violated the charter that he agreed to follow when posting
into
> this newsgroup. In order to set a new precedent of community
interaction, we
> have decided to leave this matter up to the community to decide.
>
> There will be one vote per AW citizen, and it will be an open vote.
Votes
> will be posted in response to this post, and will be tallied in 24
hours
> from the posted date of this message. End results will be binding,
with no
> further discussion entered into - as this is an open vote, the talies
will
> be able to be viewed by all members of community.
>
> Votes are to be cast as one of two choices
>
> To have Eep remain int his newsgroup, please vote as <citizen name -
> number> -"Stay"
>
> To vote to have Eep removed, please vote <citizen name - number> -
"Remove".
>
> In making your decision, please review past posts by this user, and
use them
> to make your best judgement on the matter.
>
>
> As the initiator of this vote, I begin the tally by casting my own, as
an
> Activeworlds citizen.
>
>
> Facter 159952 - Remove.
>
>
>
> The voting has begun.
>
>
>
|
Feb 8, 2001, 8:55pm
Holistic1 285403 - Remove.
[View Quote]
> This post is to vote upon the dismissal from this newsgroup of the user
> "Eep".
>
> This user has been a source of continuous harrasement, abuse, slander,
> derogatory remarks, personal insults and defamitory insults.
>
> The user has been given many avenues to redeem himself in the eyes of the
> newsgroup community, and has been given many opportunities to show himself a
> decent, productive and respectful member thereof.
>
> Thus, it is the wish of AWCI, to put forth a vote to have the user Eep's
> priviledges of posting into this newsgroup, removed from him for the
> foreseeable future.
>
> AWCI has full authority to ban such user as we see fit, as he has
> continually violated the charter that he agreed to follow when posting into
> this newsgroup. In order to set a new precedent of community interaction, we
> have decided to leave this matter up to the community to decide.
>
> There will be one vote per AW citizen, and it will be an open vote. Votes
> will be posted in response to this post, and will be tallied in 24 hours
> from the posted date of this message. End results will be binding, with no
> further discussion entered into - as this is an open vote, the talies will
> be able to be viewed by all members of community.
>
> Votes are to be cast as one of two choices
>
> To have Eep remain int his newsgroup, please vote as <citizen name -
> number> -"Stay"
>
> To vote to have Eep removed, please vote <citizen name - number> - "Remove".
>
> In making your decision, please review past posts by this user, and use them
> to make your best judgement on the matter.
>
> As the initiator of this vote, I begin the tally by casting my own, as an
> Activeworlds citizen.
>
> Facter 159952 - Remove.
>
> The voting has begun.
Feb 8, 2001, 9:05pm
Wing - 305004 - Stay
--
Wing
This little spot is dedicated to my girl, Jessie.
The third vote- Facter. That's 2 votes Eep, 1 vote Facter.
AW Citizen 305004 "Wing"
bathgate at prodigy.net
eyemwing at teleport.com
ICQ #101207433
[View Quote]facter <"Facter at AWsupport"> wrote in message
news:3a831e52$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> This post is to vote upon the dismissal from this newsgroup of the user
> "Eep".
>
> This user has been a source of continuous harrasement, abuse, slander,
> derogatory remarks, personal insults and defamitory insults.
>
> The user has been given many avenues to redeem himself in the eyes of the
> newsgroup community, and has been given many opportunities to show himself
a
> decent, productive and respectful member thereof.
>
> Thus, it is the wish of AWCI, to put forth a vote to have the user Eep's
> priviledges of posting into this newsgroup, removed from him for the
> foreseeable future.
>
> AWCI has full authority to ban such user as we see fit, as he has
> continually violated the charter that he agreed to follow when posting
into
> this newsgroup. In order to set a new precedent of community interaction,
we
> have decided to leave this matter up to the community to decide.
>
> There will be one vote per AW citizen, and it will be an open vote. Votes
> will be posted in response to this post, and will be tallied in 24 hours
> from the posted date of this message. End results will be binding, with no
> further discussion entered into - as this is an open vote, the talies will
> be able to be viewed by all members of community.
>
> Votes are to be cast as one of two choices
>
> To have Eep remain int his newsgroup, please vote as <citizen name -
> number> -"Stay"
>
> To vote to have Eep removed, please vote <citizen name - number> -
"Remove".
>
> In making your decision, please review past posts by this user, and use
them
> to make your best judgement on the matter.
>
>
> As the initiator of this vote, I begin the tally by casting my own, as an
> Activeworlds citizen.
>
>
> Facter 159952 - Remove.
>
>
>
> The voting has begun.
>
>
>
|
Feb 8, 2001, 9:11pm
Eep should never be banned from contributing to the newsgroup. No-one
should. If ppl do not like what is being said they can filter.
I [317414] vote for Eep to STAY
[View Quote]"holistic1" <tkafader at ptdprolog.net> wrote in message
news:3A83236D.ECC2B02C at ptdprolog.net...
> Holistic1 285403 - Remove.
>
> facter wrote:
>
the
himself a
into
interaction, we
Votes
no
will
"Remove".
them
an
>
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Feb 8, 2001, 9:13pm
K y l e - 298819 - Remove.
[View Quote]
> This post is to vote upon the dismissal from this newsgroup of the user
> "Eep".
>
> This user has been a source of continuous harrasement, abuse, slander,
> derogatory remarks, personal insults and defamitory insults.
>
> The user has been given many avenues to redeem himself in the eyes of the
> newsgroup community, and has been given many opportunities to show himself a
> decent, productive and respectful member thereof.
>
> Thus, it is the wish of AWCI, to put forth a vote to have the user Eep's
> priviledges of posting into this newsgroup, removed from him for the
> foreseeable future.
>
> AWCI has full authority to ban such user as we see fit, as he has
> continually violated the charter that he agreed to follow when posting into
> this newsgroup. In order to set a new precedent of community interaction, we
> have decided to leave this matter up to the community to decide.
>
> There will be one vote per AW citizen, and it will be an open vote. Votes
> will be posted in response to this post, and will be tallied in 24 hours
> from the posted date of this message. End results will be binding, with no
> further discussion entered into - as this is an open vote, the talies will
> be able to be viewed by all members of community.
>
> Votes are to be cast as one of two choices
>
> To have Eep remain int his newsgroup, please vote as <citizen name -
> number> -"Stay"
>
> To vote to have Eep removed, please vote <citizen name - number> - "Remove".
>
> In making your decision, please review past posts by this user, and use them
> to make your best judgement on the matter.
>
>
> As the initiator of this vote, I begin the tally by casting my own, as an
> Activeworlds citizen.
>
>
> Facter 159952 - Remove.
>
>
>
> The voting has begun.
Feb 8, 2001, 9:18pm
KEEP EEP!
~Joeman
[View Quote]"facter" <"Facter at AWsupport"> wrote in message
news:3a831e52$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> This post is to vote upon the dismissal from this newsgroup of the user
> "Eep".
>
> This user has been a source of continuous harrasement, abuse, slander,
> derogatory remarks, personal insults and defamitory insults.
>
> The user has been given many avenues to redeem himself in the eyes of the
> newsgroup community, and has been given many opportunities to show himself
a
> decent, productive and respectful member thereof.
>
> Thus, it is the wish of AWCI, to put forth a vote to have the user Eep's
> priviledges of posting into this newsgroup, removed from him for the
> foreseeable future.
>
> AWCI has full authority to ban such user as we see fit, as he has
> continually violated the charter that he agreed to follow when posting
into
> this newsgroup. In order to set a new precedent of community interaction,
we
> have decided to leave this matter up to the community to decide.
>
> There will be one vote per AW citizen, and it will be an open vote. Votes
> will be posted in response to this post, and will be tallied in 24 hours
> from the posted date of this message. End results will be binding, with no
> further discussion entered into - as this is an open vote, the talies will
> be able to be viewed by all members of community.
>
> Votes are to be cast as one of two choices
>
> To have Eep remain int his newsgroup, please vote as <citizen name -
> number> -"Stay"
>
> To vote to have Eep removed, please vote <citizen name - number> -
"Remove".
>
> In making your decision, please review past posts by this user, and use
them
> to make your best judgement on the matter.
>
>
> As the initiator of this vote, I begin the tally by casting my own, as an
> Activeworlds citizen.
>
>
> Facter 159952 - Remove.
>
>
>
> The voting has begun.
>
>
>
|
Feb 8, 2001, 9:28pm
Nabler 307771 - Remove.
[View Quote]facter <"Facter at AWsupport"> wrote in message
news:3a831e52$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> This post is to vote upon the dismissal from this newsgroup of the user
> "Eep".
>
> This user has been a source of continuous harrasement, abuse, slander,
> derogatory remarks, personal insults and defamitory insults.
>
> The user has been given many avenues to redeem himself in the eyes of the
> newsgroup community, and has been given many opportunities to show himself
a
> decent, productive and respectful member thereof.
>
> Thus, it is the wish of AWCI, to put forth a vote to have the user Eep's
> priviledges of posting into this newsgroup, removed from him for the
> foreseeable future.
>
> AWCI has full authority to ban such user as we see fit, as he has
> continually violated the charter that he agreed to follow when posting
into
> this newsgroup. In order to set a new precedent of community interaction,
we
> have decided to leave this matter up to the community to decide.
>
> There will be one vote per AW citizen, and it will be an open vote. Votes
> will be posted in response to this post, and will be tallied in 24 hours
> from the posted date of this message. End results will be binding, with no
> further discussion entered into - as this is an open vote, the talies will
> be able to be viewed by all members of community.
>
> Votes are to be cast as one of two choices
>
> To have Eep remain int his newsgroup, please vote as <citizen name -
> number> -"Stay"
>
> To vote to have Eep removed, please vote <citizen name - number> -
"Remove".
>
> In making your decision, please review past posts by this user, and use
them
> to make your best judgement on the matter.
>
>
> As the initiator of this vote, I begin the tally by casting my own, as an
> Activeworlds citizen.
>
>
> Facter 159952 - Remove.
>
>
>
> The voting has begun.
>
>
>
|
Feb 8, 2001, 9:42pm
Before I begin, Internal Affairs 288703 - Stay
Now that that is out of the way, let me start.
Eep is simply exercising his right of Freedom of Speech, which if my Civics
teacher taught my correctly, is defined in the Bill of Rights, under First
Amendment, Section B (Added in 1791 of course). If you revoke his right to
Freedom of Speech, this is going against the Constitution. I do not recall a
time when Eep resulted in slander (actually, it would be libel since this is
in a form of writing). But if that is the case at stake, then yes, indeed,
that is against the Law and he should be penalized. But as long as Eep
remains in his boundaries, in my opinion he should stay as a member of the
AW Community. He has made many great contributions to this ever-so-growing
community and he has even won a CY Award for that, more than I can say about
a lot of you.
So before you immediately jump the gun and want him kicked out because you
simply don't like him, think before you do anything else.
[View Quote]"facter" <"Facter at AWsupport"> wrote in message
news:3a831e52$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> This post is to vote upon the dismissal from this newsgroup of the user
> "Eep".
>
> This user has been a source of continuous harrasement, abuse, slander,
> derogatory remarks, personal insults and defamitory insults.
>
> The user has been given many avenues to redeem himself in the eyes of the
> newsgroup community, and has been given many opportunities to show himself
a
> decent, productive and respectful member thereof.
>
> Thus, it is the wish of AWCI, to put forth a vote to have the user Eep's
> priviledges of posting into this newsgroup, removed from him for the
> foreseeable future.
>
> AWCI has full authority to ban such user as we see fit, as he has
> continually violated the charter that he agreed to follow when posting
into
> this newsgroup. In order to set a new precedent of community interaction,
we
> have decided to leave this matter up to the community to decide.
>
> There will be one vote per AW citizen, and it will be an open vote. Votes
> will be posted in response to this post, and will be tallied in 24 hours
> from the posted date of this message. End results will be binding, with no
> further discussion entered into - as this is an open vote, the talies will
> be able to be viewed by all members of community.
>
> Votes are to be cast as one of two choices
>
> To have Eep remain int his newsgroup, please vote as <citizen name -
> number> -"Stay"
>
> To vote to have Eep removed, please vote <citizen name - number> -
"Remove".
>
> In making your decision, please review past posts by this user, and use
them
> to make your best judgement on the matter.
>
>
> As the initiator of this vote, I begin the tally by casting my own, as an
> Activeworlds citizen.
>
>
> Facter 159952 - Remove.
>
>
>
> The voting has begun.
>
>
>
|
Feb 8, 2001, 9:43pm
Nornny 292538 stay. :)
Facter, if you've been around the newsgroup long, you'll know that Eep's
recent bits haven't even been close to bad. hehe. :)
Seriously though, Eep gets on everyone's nerve, but you just fed him fuel by
opening it and uncensoring it. And now, you're going back and deciding to
kick him out of our close knit group? The newsgroup would never have the
same dynamic.
I dunno, until recently, I've only seen you constantly start threads, but
before hand, it seemed you were quite reserved and quiet. Eep's been
mouthing off since forever and it's not really all that fair to give Eep the
boot when you haven't "come back" long enough.
We're all bitter, I can truly understand that, Eep can understand that. But
the whole principle of AW "filtering" out productive yet non-orthodox
newsgroup posters is just going to cause a split in our newsgroup. Eep is no
worse than a newbie, yet we don't kick them out. You're trying to change a
man that's never going to or want to change. What good will it do kicking
him out or letting him stay? I'm personally scared that even this post
defending him (in a way) will make people think less of me and eventually
cause my boot. We're not here to play Survivor, we're here to discuss,
debate, and argue, and you can't do that with the generally one-sidedness of
the community.
Nornny
[View Quote]"facter" <"Facter at AWsupport"> wrote in message
news:3a831e52$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> This post is to vote upon the dismissal from this newsgroup of the user
> "Eep".
>
> This user has been a source of continuous harrasement, abuse, slander,
> derogatory remarks, personal insults and defamitory insults.
>
> The user has been given many avenues to redeem himself in the eyes of the
> newsgroup community, and has been given many opportunities to show himself
a
> decent, productive and respectful member thereof.
>
> Thus, it is the wish of AWCI, to put forth a vote to have the user Eep's
> priviledges of posting into this newsgroup, removed from him for the
> foreseeable future.
>
> AWCI has full authority to ban such user as we see fit, as he has
> continually violated the charter that he agreed to follow when posting
into
> this newsgroup. In order to set a new precedent of community interaction,
we
> have decided to leave this matter up to the community to decide.
>
> There will be one vote per AW citizen, and it will be an open vote. Votes
> will be posted in response to this post, and will be tallied in 24 hours
> from the posted date of this message. End results will be binding, with no
> further discussion entered into - as this is an open vote, the talies will
> be able to be viewed by all members of community.
>
> Votes are to be cast as one of two choices
>
> To have Eep remain int his newsgroup, please vote as <citizen name -
> number> -"Stay"
>
> To vote to have Eep removed, please vote <citizen name - number> -
"Remove".
>
> In making your decision, please review past posts by this user, and use
them
> to make your best judgement on the matter.
>
>
> As the initiator of this vote, I begin the tally by casting my own, as an
> Activeworlds citizen.
>
>
> Facter 159952 - Remove.
>
>
>
> The voting has begun.
>
>
>
|
Feb 8, 2001, 9:43pm
I fully appreciate your concern about the often abusive and ad hominem attacks
made by several posters in this newsgroup. However I fundamentally disagree with
this approach to the problem. My concern is where will this stop. This group is
meant to be an open forum for uncensored discussion of community matters; it is
*vital* that no censorship or banishment be imposed unless called for by a
majority of the posters, and with all respect by the users of this ng, not by
the administrative staff. Newsgroups thrive on arguments and flames, part of
the energy of AW comes from such clashes. Historically, and I write here as
someone who has posted in newsgroups for over ten years, it has been shown
to be more effective to either ignore such bad behaviour or if you can't
stomach it, to *filter* it.
In any case why is it necessary to organise such a personal attack on Eep,
curiously similar in nature to that which you rightfully condemn him for in
the first place? Perhaps it is some mistaken sense of loyalty to fellow
employees who have been the victims of his sharp words? By all means
vigorously criticise Eep, but *please* do not organise a witch hunt.
Please withdraw this proposal before you start to destroy what remains of the
the community.
Katalyzt of Therapy Worlds
http://therapy.diz.nu
[View Quote]facter wrote:
>
> This post is to vote upon the dismissal from this newsgroup of the user
> "Eep".
>
> This user has been a source of continuous harrasement, abuse, slander,
> derogatory remarks, personal insults and defamitory insults.
>
> The user has been given many avenues to redeem himself in the eyes of the
> newsgroup community, and has been given many opportunities to show himself a
> decent, productive and respectful member thereof.
>
> Thus, it is the wish of AWCI, to put forth a vote to have the user Eep's
> priviledges of posting into this newsgroup, removed from him for the
> foreseeable future.
>
> AWCI has full authority to ban such user as we see fit, as he has
> continually violated the charter that he agreed to follow when posting into
> this newsgroup. In order to set a new precedent of community interaction, we
> have decided to leave this matter up to the community to decide.
>
> There will be one vote per AW citizen, and it will be an open vote. Votes
> will be posted in response to this post, and will be tallied in 24 hours
> from the posted date of this message. End results will be binding, with no
> further discussion entered into - as this is an open vote, the talies will
> be able to be viewed by all members of community.
>
> Votes are to be cast as one of two choices
>
> To have Eep remain int his newsgroup, please vote as <citizen name -
> number> -"Stay"
>
> To vote to have Eep removed, please vote <citizen name - number> - "Remove".
>
> In making your decision, please review past posts by this user, and use them
> to make your best judgement on the matter.
>
> As the initiator of this vote, I begin the tally by casting my own, as an
> Activeworlds citizen.
>
> Facter 159952 - Remove.
>
> The voting has begun.
|
Feb 8, 2001, 9:43pm
as much as I dislike eep, this is a difficult decision for me... on the one
hand. eep can occasionally bring up good points and topics of conversations,
yet on the other he is also harrassing, insulting, and even emotionally
hurts some people, I feel with eep the negative outways the positive,
generaly in such an open enviroment that is understandable even acceptable,
however when it eventually leads to people leaving the forum, and many great
oppinions and ideas are removed simply because one person harrasses them,
the whole concept loses it's sole purpose, and with this, I, J B E L L,
306161, almost regretfully vote to remove eep from the msg boards due to the
facts listed above, I feel it is the best for the NGs that this be done.
--
J B E L L
http://platinum.awjbell.com
G O I N G P L A T I N U M
[View Quote]"facter" <"Facter at AWsupport"> wrote in message
news:3a831e52$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> This post is to vote upon the dismissal from this newsgroup of the user
> "Eep".
>
> This user has been a source of continuous harrasement, abuse, slander,
> derogatory remarks, personal insults and defamitory insults.
>
> The user has been given many avenues to redeem himself in the eyes of the
> newsgroup community, and has been given many opportunities to show himself
a
> decent, productive and respectful member thereof.
>
> Thus, it is the wish of AWCI, to put forth a vote to have the user Eep's
> priviledges of posting into this newsgroup, removed from him for the
> foreseeable future.
>
> AWCI has full authority to ban such user as we see fit, as he has
> continually violated the charter that he agreed to follow when posting
into
> this newsgroup. In order to set a new precedent of community interaction,
we
> have decided to leave this matter up to the community to decide.
>
> There will be one vote per AW citizen, and it will be an open vote. Votes
> will be posted in response to this post, and will be tallied in 24 hours
> from the posted date of this message. End results will be binding, with no
> further discussion entered into - as this is an open vote, the talies will
> be able to be viewed by all members of community.
>
> Votes are to be cast as one of two choices
>
> To have Eep remain int his newsgroup, please vote as <citizen name -
> number> -"Stay"
>
> To vote to have Eep removed, please vote <citizen name - number> -
"Remove".
>
> In making your decision, please review past posts by this user, and use
them
> to make your best judgement on the matter.
>
>
> As the initiator of this vote, I begin the tally by casting my own, as an
> Activeworlds citizen.
>
>
> Facter 159952 - Remove.
>
>
>
> The voting has begun.
>
>
>
|
Feb 8, 2001, 9:49pm
Your post brought up a thought. Has Eep EVER caused anyone to leave the
newsgroup?
I'm just wondering. :) usually, I see people fighting to the bitter end with
Eep. He does stir up some rousing and unusual thoughts and actions from all
of us, good and bad. :)
And WHY hasn't Eep posted to this yet? I'm sure he's ready to retaliate.
Nornny
[View Quote]"j b e l l" <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message
news:3a832f25$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> as much as I dislike eep, this is a difficult decision for me... on the
one
> hand. eep can occasionally bring up good points and topics of
conversations,
> yet on the other he is also harrassing, insulting, and even emotionally
> hurts some people, I feel with eep the negative outways the positive,
> generaly in such an open enviroment that is understandable even
acceptable,
> however when it eventually leads to people leaving the forum, and many
great
> oppinions and ideas are removed simply because one person harrasses them,
> the whole concept loses it's sole purpose, and with this, I, J B E L L,
> 306161, almost regretfully vote to remove eep from the msg boards due to
the
> facts listed above, I feel it is the best for the NGs that this be done.
>
> --
> J B E L L
> http://platinum.awjbell.com
> G O I N G P L A T I N U M
> "facter" <"Facter at AWsupport"> wrote in message
> news:3a831e52$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
the
himself
> a
> into
interaction,
> we
Votes
no
will
> "Remove".
> them
an
>
>
|
Feb 8, 2001, 9:50pm
lol.. silly man.. free speach went out when govt. came in.. there are a lot
of laws against what you can and can't say-free speach basically states that
you can say what you will against your country or govornment.. politics and
news are basically free.. and you can say almost anything.. but there are a
lot of restrictions, and establishment has the right to create it's own
restrictions..
--
J B E L L
http://platinum.awjbell.com
G O I N G P L A T I N U M
[View Quote]"internal affairs" <ji0414 at starlinx.com> wrote in message
news:3a832ef1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Before I begin, Internal Affairs 288703 - Stay
>
> Now that that is out of the way, let me start.
> Eep is simply exercising his right of Freedom of Speech, which if my
Civics
> teacher taught my correctly, is defined in the Bill of Rights, under First
> Amendment, Section B (Added in 1791 of course). If you revoke his right to
> Freedom of Speech, this is going against the Constitution. I do not recall
a
> time when Eep resulted in slander (actually, it would be libel since this
is
> in a form of writing). But if that is the case at stake, then yes, indeed,
> that is against the Law and he should be penalized. But as long as Eep
> remains in his boundaries, in my opinion he should stay as a member of the
> AW Community. He has made many great contributions to this ever-so-growing
> community and he has even won a CY Award for that, more than I can say
about
> a lot of you.
>
> So before you immediately jump the gun and want him kicked out because you
> simply don't like him, think before you do anything else.
>
>
> "facter" <"Facter at AWsupport"> wrote in message
> news:3a831e52$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
the
himself
> a
> into
interaction,
> we
Votes
no
will
> "Remove".
> them
an
>
>
|
Feb 8, 2001, 9:52pm
Actually, I've noticed whenever Eep is being attacked in a new thread, he
doesn't defend himself. At least that's how I remember it. Strange, huh?
[View Quote]"nornny" <Nornny at snet.net> wrote in message
news:3a83307c$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Your post brought up a thought. Has Eep EVER caused anyone to leave the
> newsgroup?
>
> I'm just wondering. :) usually, I see people fighting to the bitter end
with
> Eep. He does stir up some rousing and unusual thoughts and actions from
all
> of us, good and bad. :)
>
> And WHY hasn't Eep posted to this yet? I'm sure he's ready to retaliate.
>
> Nornny
|
Feb 8, 2001, 9:52pm
SW Comit 297649 - Remove
I want him removed because he harrasses people, and I don't like to see all
the langauge when I'm reading the NGs in school, or else I could lose my
computer rights.
Feb 8, 2001, 9:59pm
first of all, if eep is voted to stay, does that mean you leave? you never
said that in this post, and if that is what it means, then, well thats
stupid, you shouldn't make us choose you or him
also, shouldnt you have waited for eep to make a response? I havent seen a
post from him since the decision of the vote...
anyway,
302202- stay
-Myrth
[View Quote]"facter" <"Facter at AWsupport"> wrote in message
news:3a831e52$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> This post is to vote upon the dismissal from this newsgroup of the user
> "Eep".
>
> This user has been a source of continuous harrasement, abuse, slander,
> derogatory remarks, personal insults and defamitory insults.
>
> The user has been given many avenues to redeem himself in the eyes of the
> newsgroup community, and has been given many opportunities to show himself
a
> decent, productive and respectful member thereof.
>
> Thus, it is the wish of AWCI, to put forth a vote to have the user Eep's
> priviledges of posting into this newsgroup, removed from him for the
> foreseeable future.
>
> AWCI has full authority to ban such user as we see fit, as he has
> continually violated the charter that he agreed to follow when posting
into
> this newsgroup. In order to set a new precedent of community interaction,
we
> have decided to leave this matter up to the community to decide.
>
> There will be one vote per AW citizen, and it will be an open vote. Votes
> will be posted in response to this post, and will be tallied in 24 hours
> from the posted date of this message. End results will be binding, with no
> further discussion entered into - as this is an open vote, the talies will
> be able to be viewed by all members of community.
>
> Votes are to be cast as one of two choices
>
> To have Eep remain int his newsgroup, please vote as <citizen name -
> number> -"Stay"
>
> To vote to have Eep removed, please vote <citizen name - number> -
"Remove".
>
> In making your decision, please review past posts by this user, and use
them
> to make your best judgement on the matter.
>
>
> As the initiator of this vote, I begin the tally by casting my own, as an
> Activeworlds citizen.
>
>
> Facter 159952 - Remove.
>
>
>
> The voting has begun.
>
>
>
|
Feb 8, 2001, 10:00pm
Don't read them in school?
[View Quote]On 8 Feb 2001 18:52:49 -0500, "sw comit" <swcomit at swcity.net> wrote:
|
>SW Comit 297649 - Remove
>
>
>I want him removed because he harrasses people, and I don't like to see all
>the langauge when I'm reading the NGs in school, or else I could lose my
>computer rights.
>
>
- Tony56 (Tony M.) [chandler56 at mail.com]
"All typos are optical illusions"
____________________________________________________________
Feb 8, 2001, 10:02pm
nevermind, I see that he did reply
-Myrth
[View Quote]"myrth" <myrth at myrthco.com> wrote in message
news:3a8332d1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> first of all, if eep is voted to stay, does that mean you leave? you
never
> said that in this post, and if that is what it means, then, well thats
> stupid, you shouldn't make us choose you or him
>
> also, shouldnt you have waited for eep to make a response? I havent seen
a
> post from him since the decision of the vote...
>
> anyway,
>
> 302202- stay
>
> -Myrth
>
> "facter" <"Facter at AWsupport"> wrote in message
> news:3a831e52$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
the
himself
> a
> into
interaction,
> we
Votes
no
will
> "Remove".
> them
an
>
>
|
Feb 8, 2001, 10:03pm
CrAzY gLuE IL <322662> Stay
--
We all have atleast ONE crazything in us >:]
~Johnathon a.k.a CrAzY gLuE IL
crazyglue3 at hotmail.com
Idiots are plentiful these days, what would we do without them?
Geniuses are rare, but what would it be like without them?
That's is the question.
[View Quote]facter <"Facter at AWsupport"> wrote in message
news:3a831e52$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> This post is to vote upon the dismissal from this newsgroup of the user
> "Eep".
>
> This user has been a source of continuous harrasement, abuse, slander,
> derogatory remarks, personal insults and defamitory insults.
>
> The user has been given many avenues to redeem himself in the eyes of the
> newsgroup community, and has been given many opportunities to show himself
a
> decent, productive and respectful member thereof.
>
> Thus, it is the wish of AWCI, to put forth a vote to have the user Eep's
> priviledges of posting into this newsgroup, removed from him for the
> foreseeable future.
>
> AWCI has full authority to ban such user as we see fit, as he has
> continually violated the charter that he agreed to follow when posting
into
> this newsgroup. In order to set a new precedent of community interaction,
we
> have decided to leave this matter up to the community to decide.
>
> There will be one vote per AW citizen, and it will be an open vote. Votes
> will be posted in response to this post, and will be tallied in 24 hours
> from the posted date of this message. End results will be binding, with no
> further discussion entered into - as this is an open vote, the talies will
> be able to be viewed by all members of community.
>
> Votes are to be cast as one of two choices
>
> To have Eep remain int his newsgroup, please vote as <citizen name -
> number> -"Stay"
>
> To vote to have Eep removed, please vote <citizen name - number> -
"Remove".
>
> In making your decision, please review past posts by this user, and use
them
> to make your best judgement on the matter.
>
>
> As the initiator of this vote, I begin the tally by casting my own, as an
> Activeworlds citizen.
>
>
> Facter 159952 - Remove.
>
>
>
> The voting has begun.
>
>
>
|
Feb 8, 2001, 10:05pm
Eep got the boot once before which I thought sucked. If he gets the boot
again I will also leave the newsgroups. Like him or not, Eep is a part
of our community. Rehabber (264429) votes that Eep stays...
[View Quote]facter wrote:
>
> This post is to vote upon the dismissal from this newsgroup of the user
> "Eep".
>
> This user has been a source of continuous harrasement, abuse, slander,
> derogatory remarks, personal insults and defamitory insults.
>
> The user has been given many avenues to redeem himself in the eyes of the
> newsgroup community, and has been given many opportunities to show himself a
> decent, productive and respectful member thereof.
>
> Thus, it is the wish of AWCI, to put forth a vote to have the user Eep's
> priviledges of posting into this newsgroup, removed from him for the
> foreseeable future.
>
> AWCI has full authority to ban such user as we see fit, as he has
> continually violated the charter that he agreed to follow when posting into
> this newsgroup. In order to set a new precedent of community interaction, we
> have decided to leave this matter up to the community to decide.
>
> There will be one vote per AW citizen, and it will be an open vote. Votes
> will be posted in response to this post, and will be tallied in 24 hours
> from the posted date of this message. End results will be binding, with no
> further discussion entered into - as this is an open vote, the talies will
> be able to be viewed by all members of community.
>
> Votes are to be cast as one of two choices
>
> To have Eep remain int his newsgroup, please vote as <citizen name -
> number> -"Stay"
>
> To vote to have Eep removed, please vote <citizen name - number> - "Remove".
>
> In making your decision, please review past posts by this user, and use them
> to make your best judgement on the matter.
>
> As the initiator of this vote, I begin the tally by casting my own, as an
> Activeworlds citizen.
>
> Facter 159952 - Remove.
>
> The voting has begun.
|
Feb 8, 2001, 10:06pm
Eep doesn't seem to retaliate when people are discussing him, only when
people directly attack him. If I were Eep I wouldn't post to this thread,
just sit around and watch it play out. Facter's initial vote in my opinion
shouldn't be counted, nor should Eep's (not that he'll cast one anyway)
because they're the two extreme parties and would cancel each other out
anyway.
--
Wing
This little spot is dedicated to my girl, Jessie.
She paints her nails, and she dont know, he's got her best friend on the
phone,
She'll wash her hair, his dirty clothes, for all he gives to her. And he's
got posters on the wall
Of all the girls he wish she was, and he means everything to her. Her
boyfriend, he dont know,
Anything, about her... She's just the flavor of the week.
AW Citizen 305004 "Wing"
bathgate at prodigy.net
eyemwing at teleport.com
ICQ #101207433
[View Quote]nornny <Nornny at snet.net> wrote in message
news:3a83307c$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Your post brought up a thought. Has Eep EVER caused anyone to leave the
> newsgroup?
>
> I'm just wondering. :) usually, I see people fighting to the bitter end
with
> Eep. He does stir up some rousing and unusual thoughts and actions from
all
> of us, good and bad. :)
>
> And WHY hasn't Eep posted to this yet? I'm sure he's ready to retaliate.
>
> Nornny
>
> "j b e l l" <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message
> news:3a832f25$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> one
> conversations,
> acceptable,
> great
them,
> the
user
> the
> himself
Eep's
> interaction,
> Votes
hours
with
> no
> will
use
> an
>
>
|
Feb 8, 2001, 10:08pm
OMG. YOUR SCHOOL DOESN'T HAVE FILTERS? Anyway, theres a simple solution to
this. Don't do somthing that's not school related when someones around
anyway. Duhhh.
--
Wing
This little spot is dedicated to my girl, Jessie.
She paints her nails, and she dont know, he's got her best friend on the
phone,
She'll wash her hair, his dirty clothes, for all he gives to her. And he's
got posters on the wall
Of all the girls he wish she was, and he means everything to her. Her
boyfriend, he dont know,
Anything, about her... She's just the flavor of the week.
AW Citizen 305004 "Wing"
bathgate at prodigy.net
eyemwing at teleport.com
ICQ #101207433
[View Quote]sw comit <swcomit at swcity.net> wrote in message
news:3a833151 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> SW Comit 297649 - Remove
>
>
> I want him removed because he harrasses people, and I don't like to see
all
> the langauge when I'm reading the NGs in school, or else I could lose my
> computer rights.
>
>
|
Feb 8, 2001, 10:11pm
The post about Facter is the first thing I've heard from eep while posting
in these newsgroups. So given that he didn't leave a very good first
impression on me, I must vote to remove. Sorry, eep. It's nothing
personal. To me, anyways.
SW Chris - 297649 - Remove
[View Quote]facter <"Facter at AWsupport"> wrote in message
news:3a831e52$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> This post is to vote upon the dismissal from this newsgroup of the user
> "Eep".
>
> This user has been a source of continuous harrasement, abuse, slander,
> derogatory remarks, personal insults and defamitory insults.
>
> The user has been given many avenues to redeem himself in the eyes of the
> newsgroup community, and has been given many opportunities to show himself
a
> decent, productive and respectful member thereof.
>
> Thus, it is the wish of AWCI, to put forth a vote to have the user Eep's
> priviledges of posting into this newsgroup, removed from him for the
> foreseeable future.
>
> AWCI has full authority to ban such user as we see fit, as he has
> continually violated the charter that he agreed to follow when posting
into
> this newsgroup. In order to set a new precedent of community interaction,
we
> have decided to leave this matter up to the community to decide.
>
> There will be one vote per AW citizen, and it will be an open vote. Votes
> will be posted in response to this post, and will be tallied in 24 hours
> from the posted date of this message. End results will be binding, with no
> further discussion entered into - as this is an open vote, the talies will
> be able to be viewed by all members of community.
>
> Votes are to be cast as one of two choices
>
> To have Eep remain int his newsgroup, please vote as <citizen name -
> number> -"Stay"
>
> To vote to have Eep removed, please vote <citizen name - number> -
"Remove".
>
> In making your decision, please review past posts by this user, and use
them
> to make your best judgement on the matter.
>
>
> As the initiator of this vote, I begin the tally by casting my own, as an
> Activeworlds citizen.
>
>
> Facter 159952 - Remove.
>
>
>
> The voting has begun.
>
>
>
|
Feb 8, 2001, 10:14pm
Again - that is not freedom of speech, in my eyes, it is interpreted as
slander, defamation and abuse.
There is a newsgroup charter, he has broken it - the vote is cast, and, as a
community, I have done something totally new and given the decision up to
*all of you*.
No one here else has *ever* let you guys decide this kind of stuff for
yourselves - I dont know why it is not seen in the manner as it is
intended - as a democratic, representational way of dealing with a matter
that just has no other good solution.
End of...
F.
[View Quote]"internal affairs" <ji0414 at starlinx.com> wrote in message
news:3a832ef1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Before I begin, Internal Affairs 288703 - Stay
>
> Now that that is out of the way, let me start.
> Eep is simply exercising his right of Freedom of Speech, which if my
Civics
> teacher taught my correctly, is defined in the Bill of Rights, under First
> Amendment, Section B (Added in 1791 of course). If you revoke his right to
> Freedom of Speech, this is going against the Constitution. I do not recall
a
> time when Eep resulted in slander (actually, it would be libel since this
is
> in a form of writing). But if that is the case at stake, then yes, indeed,
> that is against the Law and he should be penalized. But as long as Eep
> remains in his boundaries, in my opinion he should stay as a member of the
> AW Community. He has made many great contributions to this ever-so-growing
> community and he has even won a CY Award for that, more than I can say
about
> a lot of you.
>
> So before you immediately jump the gun and want him kicked out because you
> simply don't like him, think before you do anything else.
>
>
> "facter" <"Facter at AWsupport"> wrote in message
> news:3a831e52$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
the
himself
> a
> into
interaction,
> we
Votes
no
will
> "Remove".
> them
an
>
>
|
Feb 8, 2001, 10:14pm
Okay, no problems whatsoever - my vote will not be counted.
I want this to be fair.
F.
[View Quote]"wing" <bathgate at prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:3a8334a0 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Eep doesn't seem to retaliate when people are discussing him, only when
> people directly attack him. If I were Eep I wouldn't post to this thread,
> just sit around and watch it play out. Facter's initial vote in my opinion
> shouldn't be counted, nor should Eep's (not that he'll cast one anyway)
> because they're the two extreme parties and would cancel each other out
> anyway.
>
> --
> Wing
> This little spot is dedicated to my girl, Jessie.
> She paints her nails, and she dont know, he's got her best friend on the
> phone,
> She'll wash her hair, his dirty clothes, for all he gives to her. And he's
> got posters on the wall
> Of all the girls he wish she was, and he means everything to her. Her
> boyfriend, he dont know,
> Anything, about her... She's just the flavor of the week.
> AW Citizen 305004 "Wing"
> bathgate at prodigy.net
> eyemwing at teleport.com
> ICQ #101207433
> nornny <Nornny at snet.net> wrote in message
> news:3a83307c$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> with
> all
the
emotionally
> them,
L,
to
done.
> user
slander,
of
> Eep's
posting
> hours
> with
talies
> use
as
>
>
|
|
