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Jan 24, 2003, 4:07pm

Not actually, she said she will not post in a few days, and a few days has
gone.

Drac
ncc 71854 <NCC-71854 at USS-Venture.Starfleet.UFP> kirjoitti
viestissä:3e317549$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> She broke it obviously.
>
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Jan 24, 2003, 4:15pm

Well, I just decided to aplogize in here, since it seems to be the trend.

I am sorry that it took so long to get the downlaods working in the world
Freebies, but most of it works now (the rwx ones).

I also want to thank Lady Aleena and Ananas for making it possible :)

Drac, the lazy SoB.

Jan 27, 2003, 7:14am

Well things that happens every 4th fucking year are regular also. Regualrity
do not mean it needs to happen often, just with a certain time interval. For
example; I clean my house regulary ( every second year).

Drac
syntax <syn at swcity.net> kirjoitti
viestissä:3e34c54a at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> One point to remember when asking for new objects in AW:
>
> 1. Everyone at AWC has the ___tightest ass___ when it comes to doing
> ANYTHING to Alphaworld. For what reason, I don't know!! >:-(
>
> I for one would love to see regular* updates for AW, such as skyboxes,
> objects etc.
>
> Look for an upcoming AWNews article regarding some of these issues. :-D
>
> *regular = not every 4 fucking years.
> --
> - Syntax -
> http://www.swcity.net
> http://forum.swcity.net
>
> PS. Excuse my Canadian. :-P
>
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Jan 27, 2003, 12:38am

I get a page saying page not found.

Drac
seiya faye <starbuilds at yahoo.com> kirjoitti
viestissä:3e347d4a at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Greetings PEOPLE!!!
> Check this out, I was thinking that AW needs a thing or a page (besides
view
> home page) where you can check out a self-filled survey by the user. So I
> came up with the idea that I make a picture that you guys can edit and
fill
> out, and put it on your homepage site so people can click that and
actually
> read something about you instead of being taken to hotmal.
> www.geocities.com/starbuilds/ss_stats.bmp
> It is saved in bitmap so that you can edit it and change colors
preferences
> etc, without having to have that stupid jpeg SMUDGE! Anyways, you could
even
> make your own pic or something, but its here if you want it! =]
> -Love
> Seiya Faye
>
>

Jan 28, 2003, 7:28am

It takes about 4 months to get a world one win. When one finally got the
world, they give the wrong password for it, so I giess one is waiting
another 4 months now to get that sorted out; of course when that password
problem some day is sorted out, the world has expired and needs to be
renewed to start.

Drac
builderz <sawran at yahoo.com> kirjoitti
viestissä:3E35C838.C9D2A8C at yahoo.com...
> I would have to disagree with you on that, Shred. I've e-mailed and
> tgrammed Flagg about a world I won as part of Newsgroup Survivor a few
> months ago and have still never received a reply. Personal thoughts
> aside, I am sorry to hear about Flagg leaving AWI. I wonder what will
> happen to all of the Flagg worlds now...
>
> -Builderz
>
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Jan 28, 2003, 7:23am

What software did you use?
It is not so bad, I could imagine it as background music in some "yet
another shark movie" or "yet another psycho is after a young girl with big
boobs movie"

Drac
seiya faye <starbuilds at yahoo.com> kirjoitti
viestissä:3e35f7db$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Hey guys, I have a theme song I made on a beginner midi software, of
course,
> I suck at it, but I was wondering if anybody out there who has talent
could
> remake it. Try making it with better quality and more ambient sounds.
> *listens in the background with big eyes* oh I love ambient sounds. Lemme
> know if you can thanks! =]
> -Love (and compose for)
> Seiya Faye
> www.geocities.com/starbuilds/star_girl-theme_of_seiya.mid -There is my
> orginal composition.
>
>

Jan 29, 2003, 2:54am

Not sure how serious you are in this post, but the key to solving any
problem is admitting having a problem.

I used to get mad quite easily and throw stuff around in my anger. These
days people who did not know me back then, think I am the calmest guy and
think I never get mad. I guess the thing that helped me most was, I simply
started to think. Ok, will it help to get mad and do irrational things, or
might there be another way?
So these days when I am in situations where I would have blown a fuse in the
"old days", I simply take a deep breath and try to think; what is the most
logical thing to do now? One might think that taking a deep breath and
counting to 10 sound like a cliché, but it really helps. The few seconds
you stop to calm down are the most critical, it is then when the damage is
done.

I do not say this always help, but if it atleast help a few times in the
beginning, one might be able to develop into some kind of system that suites
oneselves best. Anger is an emotion, and emotions twist our logical thinking
(like other things like religion, laws, traditions).

What come to social skills, I am quite lost. One thing that might help is
trying to imagine how do the other person feel if I do this or that, and
also try to understand why someone has said and acted as she/he has.
I have a good friend, I think we have never agreed on anything, yet never
fought . There is an old finnish proverb ( freely translated) "let matters
argue, not persons". So if one disagree with someone, one should try to stay
on the "topic" what the argue is about and not starting to attack the person
for what she/he is or stands for.

Not sure if this is helping any, these are just my views and I am no
"shrink". It has just helped me, so I doubt it will hurt trying:)

Drac the wuss

seiya faye <starbuilds at yahoo.com> kirjoitti
viestissä:3e36d9d6$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Hye guys, dont laugh, but i was wondering if somebody would want to hang
out
> with me and be like my bestest friend to help me with my social skills and
> anger problems too. And nobody say the predictable 'i have a shrink that i
> could reccomend' comment.
> -love and befriend
> Seiya Faye
>
>

Feb 4, 2003, 12:37pm

light form <Light_Form at hotmail.com> kirjoitti
viestissä:3e3f4d73$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> What a vary offensive and unnecessary post Screb.
>
> "many innocent ppl will be killed by US army" in that do you mean "by the
US
> army"?
>
> Screb, I will tell you one thing, if anybody kills "innocent ppl" in an up
> coming conflict that America is involved in, it will be the US Air Force.
> And that will be by innocent (there is that word again) human error. I
have
> been on two PEACEKEEPING tours (missions) as a member of the US Army, and
no
> 'innocents' have been killed by the US (or any other international
> contingent of the task force) during those PEACEKEEPING tours. In
> Afghanistan, where I have had fellow soldiers and friends deployed to,
they
> are quite receptive to the US presence. Now, I am not saying that the US
> Military has and will not inadvertently harm or even kill innocents, I'm
> just saying, please don't make it out to sound like we do on purpose....
>
>
>
> LF
>

Oh yes, this will change everything, thanks for enlightening me light form.
Of course it is justified to kill innocent people as long it is not done on
purpose *g*
You cannot seriously call it a peacekeeping operation if USA (with some
European countries) will attack Iraque?
If you say yes, I strongly suggest you get a dictionary and and look up the
world peacefull and hostile, because you must have mixed up those 2 words
somehow.

Furthemore, I think that if USA attacks Iraque withouth the aproval of UN,
UN should be obligaded to prevent USA, whatever it takes. Same if USA attack
Mexico or Canada, we should not stand by and look. I doubt tho that USA will
attack those countries, because then one might need to fight on own land, so
they will probably keep on bombing countries, which names they do not know
how to pronounce and is as far away from them as possible ( Vietnam, Korea,
Iraque, Afganistan etc).
And because I am not anti-american, I need to say this also. If Iraque
attacks some country, we need to stop Iraque with force also.

Drac

Feb 5, 2003, 8:42am

bowen <thisguyrules at 7k2.4mg.com.ANTISPAM> kirjoitti
viestissä:3e3fe6ce at server1.Activeworlds.com...
form.
on
the
words
>
> It is considered "peacekeeping" due to what _could_ happen if we don't act
with our
> military at the current situation.

You cannot honestly think a war is justified just because maybe Bush has an
itch in his balls? If we start to think that way, we would actually need to
kill everyone around us, because they are or could be a potential risk to
our safety
>
UN,
attack
>
> Mmm, the UN preventing the US from attacking? How much of the UN's
"peacekeeping"
> personal are actually US troops? More than half I'd bet.

What a dilemma, is it not ? I guess some soliders would need to shoot
themselves as they would be a potential risk to themselves. Just think what
COULD happen if they did not take action.
>
will
land, so
know
Korea,
>
> I don't even think the British spell Iraq with a ue at the end, I could be
wrong. As
> for pronouncing it, it's our language we can say it however we damn well
please.
> Sorry, it's our dialect. Don't want to get the British crazies on us for
"destroying
> their language."

Neither do I, but I am not on my way to bomb anyone either, but I promise as
soon as I go, I will check the dictionary
>
>
> Well compare it this way; if the US attacks, civilian deaths will tried to
be kept
> low. If Iraq attacks, I think, civilian deaths will be what they're
trying to
> achieve. It's better to be pre-emptive then to have another Hitler who
feels the
> need to cleanse the world of all those whom are different. Hey, Saddam
did it once
> already, didn't he? Sorry, I can't say the same for Bush.

I do not say it would not be logical to attack from our (western world)
point of view, if we are shortsighted. Just think of all the concequenses.
It is not even the logical problem that bothers me so much in the attack,
but the ethical. Who are we to say we are better people and therefore have
the right to decide what is best for them? (us actually but one is not
supposed to say so).
>
> --Bowen--
>
>

Drac

Feb 5, 2003, 8:52am

Not sure if you refered to me and the media of my country, but FYI I try to
get alternative views, not only CNN and BBC.

And media here has actually been quite neutral about this circus, actually
there has not been much on Tv about it. I guess we are just so tired of it
already. I have made my conclusions mostly by talking to other people and by
trying to make an opinion of my OWN, something I cannot say about you. You
seem to stick very much with the official line as your goverment and your
media has programmed you to do. I am not blaming you for this, it is not
your fault,, but maybe some day you will be able to think further than CCN
or goverment wants you to. You might become a troublemaker then in their
eyes and maybe be sent to an island near Cuba, and held there for months.
And dont worry they can just keep you there withouth evidence or withouth
charging you, because in their eyes you might be a potential security risk.

Drac

sw chris <chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net> kirjoitti
viestissä:3e403d91$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Give it up, Bowen. He's just a dope who's just repeating what his
country's
> media has been telling them about us. At least I get my information from
> multiple sources. It's happening anyways. Not like he can stop it.
>
> Vipers...
>
> Chris
>
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Feb 5, 2003, 8:56am

Yes I find the fundametalist dangerous, but I also find the nationalistic
cowboys dangerous, who think it is justified to whipe out someone because
they are a potential risk. It is not making them any better than the muslim
fundamentalist.

I guess this is where I could start a long going thread about religions, but
I will not this time. I have enough hatemails to answer already *g*

Drac
baron sweetman <petrossadeletethis at msn.com> kirjoitti
viestissä:Xns9318F228023D4petrossa at 64.94.241.201...
> the problem here is Drac, you are reasoning as a rational, civilised
> person. Unfortunately, moslim fundamentalists are neither if anything.
> They are blind fantatics going to any length. did you follow the
> attrocities muslim fundo's inflicted on their own country men (fellow
> muslims)
>
> Imganine those lunatics with Mass destruction weapons. I am totally sure
> Saddam will provide them with anything they want, as long as they use it
> against 'the west' whatever that maybe in his crazed view.
>
> By premptive strikes against such a 'roque state' US indeed keeps the
> peace. They have my full blessing to erradicate any fanatics they want,
> and good luck to the iraqi oilfields to them as a reward
>
>
>
> "count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi> wrote in
> news:3e3fd015 at server1.Activeworlds.com:
>

Feb 5, 2003, 9:38am

sw chris <chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net> kirjoitti
viestissä:3e4044f3$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Comments within...

>
> Could it be Bush is wrong at this point??
>
> Well we could sit on our hands and let Saddam have another decade. If you
> really want. It's only America's ass.
>
Once again I have to ask, where is the proof that Iraque is about to attack
USA ?
Even if they would have some chemical weapons, that alone do not prove they
are planning to use them on USA, might as well be just collecting them or
planning a strike to Kuwait.
One interesting question also rise, where have Iraque bought these weapons
(if they have some)? Could it be that USA is so certain they have them
because they have sold them to Iraque at some point ?

As far as I know USA (among other countries) has messdestruction weapons.
How come we are not meant to attack all these countries, just in case,,
after all they might be a potential threat?

Myabe we shall only attack weak countries with these kind of weapons, and
especially if they have something valuable in their ground?

"It is only America's ass" you say,,well now Bush is making it my ass also.
And so what if Saddam has one more decade, let him be in his country as long
as he do not attack anyone. Bush might have one more decade also, and THAT
is scary.

Drac

Feb 6, 2003, 4:39pm

I do not remeber arguing facts with u, just opinions? But if I have missed
something please post it again; these threds has grown so big that it is
hard to keep up and all I did was say, i do not like memorials LOL

Drac
sw chris <chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net> kirjoitti
viestissä:3e4296c7$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I too get my information from multiple sources, but don't rely or listen
to
> other people's opinions. I deal strictly with facts. Ever heard of Bill
> O'Reilly? The guy is certainly not a government mouthpiece.
>
> Besides, I didn't see you countering my factually-based arguements with
> facts of your own. My facts were independantly verified. So God-forbid
> that if the US Government's official line and these independant sources
> actually say the same thing, that it's some kind of evil American
> conspiracy. It has to be, right?
>
> Chris
>
>
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Feb 6, 2003, 4:41pm

Nope. But he certainly has a lot of power, more power than presidents in
general. In Europe presidents usually take care of visiting other countries
and opening bridges and all kind of nonsense and the goverment decide about
things.

Drac

sw chris <chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net> kirjoitti
viestissä:3e4297b5$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> And you cannot honestly think we would let our president have absolute
> power?
>
> Chris
>
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Feb 6, 2003, 4:47pm

We have muslims living here, maybe even some fundamentalist. I know of
occasions especially in Sweden where fathers or brothers has killd their
daughter or sister, because she has happened to fall in love with the wrong
man.
We need to show we do not tolerate this kind of action, but ppl must be
allowed to belive in whatever they want as long as they do not harm anyone.
Ppl in Iraque are not more religious than the avarage person here, but
unfortunaly these fundamentalist cause hate towrds those practising their
belive in peace also.
Al_quada is a terrorist organisatioin and I have no problem with whiping
them out, but we cannot blame thier action on all muslims, it would be as to
blame all christians for what Una-Bomber made.

Drac
baron sweetman <petrossadeletethis at msn.com> kirjoitti
viestissä:Xns9319CE83E218Fpetrossa at 64.94.241.201...
> Problem is Drac, in my country we have them already, in yours not. Wait
> till start abusing the freedom of speech and freedom of religion to say
> the most disgusting and hurtful, intolerant and 900 year old crap, and
> using those rights we give our people to preach hate against: yews,
> homosexuals, women and anyone not believing there is only 1 god and
> allah is his profet.
>
> Saying publicly 9/11 was a good thing, and the crash of the columbia was
> a sign of god. That homosexuals are less then pigs and should be
> slaughtered. That women are the subordinates of men and have no rights,
> but are men's property.... to name but a few public utterances of some
> Imam's over here.
>
> Bomb them to back to 600 bc is my idea, and although i think Bush is a
> triggerhappy cowboy without many braincells still functioning he has my
> blessing with iraq, north korea and al-queda
>
>
>
>
> "count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi> wrote in
> news:3e40edc4$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com:
>

Feb 6, 2003, 5:05pm

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LOL. Ok ok calm down I love Bush and also I will kiss his ass if I meet =
him some day. USA is best, it is the greatest, the most free country, =
nobody is homeless, nobody has been executed although innocent nobody =
innocent has ever died for example in Viatnam out of a gun held by a cit =
of USA. USA can never be wrong because it is the best country in world.

Just one thing, I can have opinions withouth facts. I like for example =
black more than purple, I like carrots more than herring and I do not =
need any facts why it is so.

Not sure what facts you are refering to tho, but once you have calmed =
down and taken your pills maybe you can look them up for me again. I =
might have an ideology yes, I am probably a twit, but it is just so fun =
to piss off ppl like you LOL

Drac
sw chris <chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net> kirjoitti =
viestiss=E4:3e42a191$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
You, sir, with all the respect that I can muster, are an ideological =
twit. And that is as nice as I can put it. I'm sorry, but this is =
getting ridiculous. Hussein has attacked people. His own people, the =
Kuwaitis, and Israelis. He funds Palestinian suicide bombers, and =
therefore he attacks people!
=20
What's even more ridiculous is your statement about President Bush. =
US Presidents get 8 years in office, and only if they're elected for two =
four year terms. They cannot officially declare war, and are limited by =
all sorts of rules and regulations that would make your head spin. If =
he tried to stay longer than 8 years, they'd drag him out of office. If =
you're afraid that Bush is going to become a despot, then your ideas =
about my country are so twisted that you can't be trusted with any of =
your other opinions about my country, those of which you haven't even =
bothered to back up with facts. =20
=20
You're ideas are so jaded that you even actually entertained the =
possibility that the seven shuttle crewers who died were actually forced =
by our US Government to go up into space in a rickety old space rocket =
for less pay than they were entitled! You want me to cite that source? =
You.
=20
Oh yes, and let's just sit idly by while Kuwait gets wiped out. Mind =
our own business. You know I might not be so averse to that policy. =
Screw Germany and France. Screw you. The rest of Europe is with us. =
Britain, Portugal, Romania, Latvia, Estonia, Bulgaria, and other eastern =
european bloque countries, who have suffered similar oppression that =
Iraqis currently suffer from. So is Russia (after this Wednesday), =
Turkey, Japan, South Korea, and Australia. The Security Council is with =
us. So is the Iraqi American Council. This is not a western =
world-eastern world issue! Countries from both sides of the world are =
on our side! =20
=20
You can view the world through those blinders if you want. You can =
spout all of the crap that you want. The fact that I'm an American and =
that I value free speech keeps me from telling you to shut the hell up. =
Most people can think for themselves. And most people who research the =
facts and the history behind what is happening today will come to the =
same conclusion that I have. You may listen to your sources in the =
media, but you sure haven't gotten the perspectives from the Iraqi =
refugees who flew from the country. Nor from the Kuwaitis or the Kurds =
who were gassed and bombed. And you definitely don't know much of the =
history or the motives as to why the US and literally half of the =
civilized world is supporting this action!
=20
But I suppose I can thank you for one thing. I can now understand a =
little of why you seem to think that President Bush is more dangerous =
than Saddam Hussein, even though Bush is limited in what he can do by =
his country and by the Democrats and Hussein is not, and of the general =
apathy that others like you have towards affairs outside of their =
precious Shire. Unfortunately I don't understand enough of it and your =
reasoning continues to elude me. =20
=20
But that's probably why you haven't bothered to backup your opinions =
with facts. And the situation only continues to get worse as you keep =
putting forth more opinions and conspiracy theories. It's driving me =
nuts! And I'm done with it. =20
=20
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own=20
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statement=20
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only if=20
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declare=20
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make=20
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drag him=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You're ideas are so jaded that you =
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were=20
actually <STRONG>forced</STRONG> by our US Government to go up into =
space in a=20
rickety old space rocket for less pay than they were entitled!&nbsp; =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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while Kuwait=20
gets wiped out.&nbsp; Mind our own business.&nbsp; You know I might =
not be so=20
averse to that policy.&nbsp; Screw Germany and France.&nbsp; Screw =
you.&nbsp;=20
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Latvia,=20
Estonia, Bulgaria, and other eastern european bloque countries, who =
have=20
suffered similar oppression that Iraqis currently suffer from.&nbsp;=20
So&nbsp;is Russia (after this Wednesday), Turkey, Japan, South Korea, =
and=20
Australia.&nbsp; The Security Council is with us.&nbsp; So is the =
Iraqi=20
American Council.&nbsp; This is not a western world-eastern world =
issue!&nbsp;=20
<STRONG>Countries from both sides of the world are on our =
side!</STRONG>&nbsp;=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You can view the world through those =
blinders if=20
you want.&nbsp; You can spout all of the crap that you want.&nbsp; The =
fact=20
that I'm an American and that I value free speech keeps me from =
telling you to=20
shut the hell up.&nbsp; <STRONG>Most people can think for=20
themselves.</STRONG>&nbsp; And most people who research the facts and =
the=20
history behind what is happening today will come to the same =
conclusion that I=20
have.&nbsp; You may listen to your sources in the media, but you sure =
haven't=20
gotten the perspectives from the Iraqi refugees who flew from the=20
country.&nbsp; Nor from the Kuwaitis or the Kurds who were gassed and=20
bombed.&nbsp; And you definitely don't know much of the =
history&nbsp;or the=20
motives as to&nbsp;why the US and literally <STRONG>half of the =
civilized=20
world</STRONG> is supporting this action!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>But I suppose I can thank you for one =

thing.&nbsp; I can now understand a little of why you seem to think =
that=20
President Bush is more dangerous than Saddam Hussein, even though Bush =
is=20
limited in what he can do by his country and by the Democrats and =
Hussein is=20
not, and of the general apathy that&nbsp;others like you have towards =
affairs=20
outside of their precious&nbsp;<STRONG>Shire</STRONG>.&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;Unfortunately I don't understand enough of it and your reasoning =

continues to elude me.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>But that's probably why you =
haven't=20
bothered to&nbsp;backup your opinions with facts</STRONG>.&nbsp; And =
the=20
situation only continues to get worse as you keep putting forth more =
opinions=20
and conspiracy theories.&nbsp; <STRONG>It's driving me =
nuts!</STRONG>&nbsp;=20
And I'm done with it.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"count dracula" &lt;</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:dracula at netsonic.fi"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>dracula at netsonic.fi</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>&gt; wrote in=20
message </FONT><A =
href=3D"news:3e40f79b$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com"><FONT=20
face=3DArial =
size=3D2>news:3e40f79b$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com</FONT></A><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt; =
<BR>&gt; sw=20
chris &lt;</FONT><A href=3D"mailto:chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net"><FONT =

face=3DArial size=3D2>chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net</FONT></A><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&gt; kirjoitti<BR>&gt;=20
viestiss=E4:3e4044f3$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...<BR>&gt; &gt; =
Comments=20
within...<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Could it be Bush is wrong =
at this=20
point??<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Well we could sit on our hands and =
let=20
Saddam have another decade.&nbsp; If you<BR>&gt; &gt; really =
want.&nbsp; It's=20
only America's ass.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; Once again I have to ask, =
where is=20
the proof that Iraque is about to attack<BR>&gt; USA ?<BR>&gt; Even if =
they=20
would have some chemical weapons, that alone do not prove they<BR>&gt; =
are=20
planning to use them on USA, might as well be just collecting them =
or<BR>&gt;=20
planning a strike to Kuwait.<BR>&gt; One interesting question also =
rise, where=20
have Iraque bought these weapons<BR>&gt; (if they have some)? Could it =
be that=20
USA is so certain they have them<BR>&gt; because they have sold them =
to Iraque=20
at some point ?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; As far as I know USA (among other =
countries)=20
has messdestruction weapons.<BR>&gt; How come we are not meant to =
attack all=20
these countries, just in case,,<BR>&gt; after all they might be a =
potential=20
threat?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Myabe we shall only attack weak countries =
with these=20
kind of weapons, and<BR>&gt; especially if they have something =
valuable in=20
their ground?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; "It is only America's ass" you =
say,,well now=20
Bush is making it my ass also.<BR>&gt; And so what if Saddam has one =
more=20
decade, let him be in his country as long<BR>&gt; as he do not attack =
anyone.=20
Bush might have one more decade also, and THAT<BR>&gt; is =
scary.<BR>&gt;=20
<BR>&gt; Drac<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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Thanks:) All thos sources looks quite "western" to me tho. Why can=B4t I =
have an opinion withouth facts? Can I only have an opionion if facts are =
based on , in your eyes , realible sources?=20
And btw I am not leftwing, not rightwing either, I am floating.
Do you have an opionion for example about Hitler, Islam and Europe? And =
if you do, do you know everything about these, have for example read the =
koran? are you familiar with the Volkswagen project in details? Do you =
know how many people live in Vaasa?

Drac
sw chris <chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net> kirjoitti =
viestiss=E4:3e42c06b at server1.Activeworlds.com...
You think I'm angry? No, I just think I wasted my time on someone =
like you, and I let you know exactly what I thought of you. I bolded =
the critical points in my message for your benefit. =20
=20
Opinions without facts are idiotic. They're not informed opinions and =
generally don't make any sense when you compare them with the facts as =
they are. =20
=20
A favorite color does not require fact. Why? Because you can't base =
your opinion on anything. You can base your opinion on the news that =
comes out in this Iraq situation, as I have done. Or you can be a =
left-wing wishy-washy who wants to promote his own agenda and ignore =
what is staring him right in the face. =20
=20
You want facts? Here. Pour over the last four months of this =
complete source listing:
CNN
FOX News
The O'Reilly Factor
The Radio Factor
NY Times
Wall Street Journal
United Nations Cspan Coverage
Statements by the Iraqi American Council
=20
I have destroyed your political credibility. So I am satisfied. Have =
a nice day.
=20
Chris
[View Quote] Just one thing, I can have opinions withouth facts. I like for =
example black more than purple, I like carrots more than herring and I =
do not need any facts why it is so.

Not sure what facts you are refering to tho, but once you have =
calmed down and taken your pills maybe you can look them up for me =
again. I might have an ideology yes, I am probably a twit, but it is =
just so fun to piss off ppl like you LOL

Drac
sw chris <chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net> kirjoitti =
viestiss=E4:3e42a191$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
You, sir, with all the respect that I can muster, are an =
ideological twit. And that is as nice as I can put it. I'm sorry, but =
this is getting ridiculous. Hussein has attacked people. His own =
people, the Kuwaitis, and Israelis. He funds Palestinian suicide =
bombers, and therefore he attacks people!
=20
What's even more ridiculous is your statement about President =
Bush. US Presidents get 8 years in office, and only if they're elected =
for two four year terms. They cannot officially declare war, and are =
limited by all sorts of rules and regulations that would make your head =
spin. If he tried to stay longer than 8 years, they'd drag him out of =
office. If you're afraid that Bush is going to become a despot, then =
your ideas about my country are so twisted that you can't be trusted =
with any of your other opinions about my country, those of which you =
haven't even bothered to back up with facts. =20
=20
You're ideas are so jaded that you even actually entertained the =
possibility that the seven shuttle crewers who died were actually forced =
by our US Government to go up into space in a rickety old space rocket =
for less pay than they were entitled! You want me to cite that source? =
You.
=20
Oh yes, and let's just sit idly by while Kuwait gets wiped out. =
Mind our own business. You know I might not be so averse to that =
policy. Screw Germany and France. Screw you. The rest of Europe is =
with us. Britain, Portugal, Romania, Latvia, Estonia, Bulgaria, and =
other eastern european bloque countries, who have suffered similar =
oppression that Iraqis currently suffer from. So is Russia (after this =
Wednesday), Turkey, Japan, South Korea, and Australia. The Security =
Council is with us. So is the Iraqi American Council. This is not a =
western world-eastern world issue! Countries from both sides of the =
world are on our side! =20
=20
You can view the world through those blinders if you want. You =
can spout all of the crap that you want. The fact that I'm an American =
and that I value free speech keeps me from telling you to shut the hell =
up. Most people can think for themselves. And most people who research =
the facts and the history behind what is happening today will come to =
the same conclusion that I have. You may listen to your sources in the =
media, but you sure haven't gotten the perspectives from the Iraqi =
refugees who flew from the country. Nor from the Kuwaitis or the Kurds =
who were gassed and bombed. And you definitely don't know much of the =
history or the motives as to why the US and literally half of the =
civilized world is supporting this action!
=20
But I suppose I can thank you for one thing. I can now understand =
a little of why you seem to think that President Bush is more dangerous =
than Saddam Hussein, even though Bush is limited in what he can do by =
his country and by the Democrats and Hussein is not, and of the general =
apathy that others like you have towards affairs outside of their =
precious Shire. Unfortunately I don't understand enough of it and your =
reasoning continues to elude me. =20
=20
But that's probably why you haven't bothered to backup your =
opinions with facts. And the situation only continues to get worse as =
you keep putting forth more opinions and conspiracy theories. It's =
driving me nuts! And I'm done with it. =20
=20
Chris
=20
=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks:) All thos sources looks quite =
"western" to=20
me tho. Why can=B4t I have an opinion withouth facts? Can I only have an =
opionion=20
if facts are based on , in your eyes , realible sources? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And btw I am not leftwing, not =
rightwing either, I=20
am floating.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>Do you have an opionion for example =
about Hitler,=20
Islam and Europe? And if you do, do you know everything about these, =
have for=20
example read the koran? are you familiar with the Volkswagen project in =
details?=20
Do you know how many people live in Vaasa?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>Drac</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>sw chris &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net">chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net=
</A>&gt;=20
kirjoitti <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:viestiss=E4:3e42c06b at server1.Activeworlds.com">viestiss=E4=
:3e42c06b at server1.Activeworlds.com</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You think I'm angry?&nbsp; No, I just =
think I=20
wasted my time on someone like you, and I let you know exactly what I =
thought=20
of you.&nbsp; I bolded the critical points in my message for your=20
benefit.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Opinions without facts&nbsp;are =
idiotic.&nbsp;=20
They're not informed opinions and generally don't make any sense when =
you=20
compare them with the facts as they are.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A favorite color does not require =
fact.&nbsp;=20
Why?&nbsp; Because you can't base your opinion on anything.&nbsp; You =
can base=20
your opinion on the news that comes out in this Iraq situation, as I =
have=20
done.&nbsp; Or you can be a left-wing wishy-washy who wants to promote =
his own=20
agenda and ignore what is staring&nbsp;him right in the face.&nbsp;=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You want facts?&nbsp; Here.&nbsp; =
Pour over the=20
last four months of this complete source listing:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>CNN</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>FOX News</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The O'Reilly Factor</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The Radio Factor</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>NY Times</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wall Street Journal</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>United Nations Cspan =
Coverage</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Statements by the Iraqi American=20
Council</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have destroyed your political=20
credibility.&nbsp; So I am satisfied.&nbsp; Have a nice =
day.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"count dracula" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:dracula at netsonic.fi">dracula at netsonic.fi</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:3e42b202 at server1.Activeworlds.com">news:3e42b202 at server1.Act=
iveworlds.com</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>LOL. Ok ok calm down I love Bush =
and also I=20
will kiss his ass if I meet him some day. USA is best, it is the =
greatest,=20
the most free country, nobody is homeless, nobody has been executed =
although=20
innocent nobody innocent has ever died for example in Viatnam out of =
a gun=20
held by a cit of USA. USA can never be wrong because it is the best =
country=20
in world.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just one thing, I can have opinions =
withouth=20
facts. I like for example black more than purple, I like carrots =
more than=20
herring and I do not need any facts why it is so.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not sure what facts you are =
refering to tho,=20
but once you have calmed down and taken your pills maybe you can =
look them=20
up for me again. I might have an ideology yes, I am probably a twit, =
but it=20
is just so fun to piss off ppl like you LOL</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Drac</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>sw chris &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net">chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net=
</A>&gt;=20
kirjoitti <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:viestiss=E4:3e42a191$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com">viestiss=E4=
:3e42a191$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You, sir, with all the respect =
that I can=20
muster,&nbsp;are an<STRONG> ideological twit</STRONG>.&nbsp; And =
that is=20
as nice as I can put it.&nbsp; I'm sorry, but <STRONG>this is =
getting=20
ridiculous</STRONG>.&nbsp; Hussein&nbsp;has attacked people.&nbsp; =
His own=20
people, the Kuwaitis,&nbsp;and Israelis.&nbsp; He funds =
Palestinian=20
suicide bombers, and therefore&nbsp;he attacks =
people!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What's even more ridiculous is =
your statement=20
about President Bush.&nbsp; US Presidents get 8 years in office, =
and only=20
if they're elected for two four year terms.&nbsp; They cannot =
officially=20
declare war, and are limited by all sorts of rules and regulations =
that=20
would make your head spin.&nbsp; If he tried to stay longer than 8 =
years,=20
they'd drag him out of office.&nbsp; If you're afraid that Bush is =
going=20
to become a despot, then your ideas about my country are so=20
<STRONG>twisted</STRONG> that you can't be trusted with any of =
your other=20
opinions about my country, those of which you haven't even =
bothered to=20
back up with facts.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You're ideas are so jaded that =
you even=20
actually entertained the possibility that the seven shuttle =
crewers who=20
died were actually <STRONG>forced</STRONG> by our US Government to =
go up=20
into space in a rickety old space rocket for less pay than they =
were=20
entitled!&nbsp; You want me to cite that source?&nbsp; =
You.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Oh yes, and let's just sit idly =
by while=20
Kuwait gets wiped out.&nbsp; Mind our own business.&nbsp; You know =
I might=20
not be so averse to that policy.&nbsp; Screw Germany and =
France.&nbsp;=20
Screw you.&nbsp; The rest of Europe is with us.&nbsp; Britain, =
Portugal,=20
Romania, Latvia, Estonia, Bulgaria, and other eastern european =
bloque=20
countries, who have suffered similar oppression that Iraqis =
currently=20
suffer from.&nbsp; So&nbsp;is Russia (after this Wednesday), =
Turkey,=20
Japan, South Korea, and Australia.&nbsp; The Security Council is =
with=20
us.&nbsp; So is the Iraqi American Council.&nbsp; This is not a =
western=20
world-eastern world issue!&nbsp; <STRONG>Countries from both sides =
of the=20
world are on our side!</STRONG>&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You can view the world through =
those blinders=20
if you want.&nbsp; You can spout all of the crap that you =
want.&nbsp; The=20
fact that I'm an American and that I value free speech keeps me =
from=20
telling you to shut the hell up.&nbsp; <STRONG>Most people can =
think for=20
themselves.</STRONG>&nbsp; And most people who research the facts =
and the=20
history behind what is happening today will come to the same =
conclusion=20
that I have.&nbsp; You may listen to your sources in the media, =
but you=20
sure haven't gotten the perspectives from the Iraqi refugees who =
flew from=20
the country.&nbsp; Nor from the Kuwaitis or the Kurds who were =
gassed and=20
bombed.&nbsp; And you definitely don't know much of the =
history&nbsp;or=20
the motives as to&nbsp;why the US and literally <STRONG>half of =
the=20
civilized world</STRONG> is supporting this action!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>But I suppose I can thank you for =
one=20
thing.&nbsp; I can now understand a little of why you seem to =
think that=20
President Bush is more dangerous than Saddam Hussein, even though =
Bush is=20
limited in what he can do by his country and by the Democrats and =
Hussein=20
is not, and of the general apathy that&nbsp;others like you have =
towards=20
affairs outside of their =
precious&nbsp;<STRONG>Shire</STRONG>.&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;Unfortunately I don't understand enough of it and your =
reasoning=20
continues to elude me.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>But that's probably why =
you haven't=20
bothered to&nbsp;backup your opinions with facts</STRONG>.&nbsp; =
And the=20
situation only continues to get worse as you keep putting forth =
more=20
opinions and conspiracy theories.&nbsp; <STRONG>It's driving me=20
nuts!</STRONG>&nbsp; And I'm done with it.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"count dracula" &lt;</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:dracula at netsonic.fi"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>dracula at netsonic.fi</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>&gt; wrote in=20
message </FONT><A =
href=3D"news:3e40f79b$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com"><FONT=20
face=3DArial =
size=3D2>news:3e40f79b$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com</FONT></A><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>&gt; <BR>&gt; sw=20
chris &lt;</FONT><A =
href=3D"mailto:chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net"><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net</FONT></A><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&gt; kirjoitti<BR>&gt;=20
viestiss=E4:3e4044f3$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...<BR>&gt; &gt; =
Comments=20
within...<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Could it be Bush is =
wrong at=20
this point??<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Well we could sit on our =
hands and=20
let Saddam have another decade.&nbsp; If you<BR>&gt; &gt; really=20
want.&nbsp; It's only America's ass.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; Once =
again I=20
have to ask, where is the proof that Iraque is about to =
attack<BR>&gt; USA=20
?<BR>&gt; Even if they would have some chemical weapons, that =
alone do not=20
prove they<BR>&gt; are planning to use them on USA, might as well =
be just=20
collecting them or<BR>&gt; planning a strike to Kuwait.<BR>&gt; =
One=20
interesting question also rise, where have Iraque bought these=20
weapons<BR>&gt; (if they have some)? Could it be that USA is so =
certain=20
they have them<BR>&gt; because they have sold them to Iraque at =
some point=20
?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; As far as I know USA (among other countries) =
has=20
messdestruction weapons.<BR>&gt; How come we are not meant to =
attack all=20
these countries, just in case,,<BR>&gt; after all they might be a=20
potential threat?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Myabe we shall only attack weak =

countries with these kind of weapons, and<BR>&gt; especially if =
they have=20
something valuable in their ground?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; "It is only =
America's=20
ass" you say,,well now Bush is making it my ass also.<BR>&gt; And =
so what=20
if Saddam has one more decade, let him be in his country as =
long<BR>&gt;=20
as he do not attack anyone. Bush might have one more decade also, =
and=20
THAT<BR>&gt; is scary.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Drac<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;=20
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I forgot, since you seem to have all the facts, maybe you could =
enlighten me how for example an attack will change the infranstructure =
in Turkey, how will it change the lives of the Kurds living in Northern =
Iraque/ southern Turkey,and the you could also tell me how it will =
change the lives of the shia-muslims, and how will it affect the =
political structure of Iran ?

Drac
sw chris <chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net> kirjoitti =
viestiss=E4:3e42c06b at server1.Activeworlds.com...
You think I'm angry? No, I just think I wasted my time on someone =
like you, and I let you know exactly what I thought of you. I bolded =
the critical points in my message for your benefit. =20
=20
Opinions without facts are idiotic. They're not informed opinions and =
generally don't make any sense when you compare them with the facts as =
they are. =20
=20
A favorite color does not require fact. Why? Because you can't base =
your opinion on anything. You can base your opinion on the news that =
comes out in this Iraq situation, as I have done. Or you can be a =
left-wing wishy-washy who wants to promote his own agenda and ignore =
what is staring him right in the face. =20
=20
You want facts? Here. Pour over the last four months of this =
complete source listing:
CNN
FOX News
The O'Reilly Factor
The Radio Factor
NY Times
Wall Street Journal
United Nations Cspan Coverage
Statements by the Iraqi American Council
=20
I have destroyed your political credibility. So I am satisfied. Have =
a nice day.
=20
Chris
[View Quote] Just one thing, I can have opinions withouth facts. I like for =
example black more than purple, I like carrots more than herring and I =
do not need any facts why it is so.

Not sure what facts you are refering to tho, but once you have =
calmed down and taken your pills maybe you can look them up for me =
again. I might have an ideology yes, I am probably a twit, but it is =
just so fun to piss off ppl like you LOL

Drac
sw chris <chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net> kirjoitti =
viestiss=E4:3e42a191$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
You, sir, with all the respect that I can muster, are an =
ideological twit. And that is as nice as I can put it. I'm sorry, but =
this is getting ridiculous. Hussein has attacked people. His own =
people, the Kuwaitis, and Israelis. He funds Palestinian suicide =
bombers, and therefore he attacks people!
=20
What's even more ridiculous is your statement about President =
Bush. US Presidents get 8 years in office, and only if they're elected =
for two four year terms. They cannot officially declare war, and are =
limited by all sorts of rules and regulations that would make your head =
spin. If he tried to stay longer than 8 years, they'd drag him out of =
office. If you're afraid that Bush is going to become a despot, then =
your ideas about my country are so twisted that you can't be trusted =
with any of your other opinions about my country, those of which you =
haven't even bothered to back up with facts. =20
=20
You're ideas are so jaded that you even actually entertained the =
possibility that the seven shuttle crewers who died were actually forced =
by our US Government to go up into space in a rickety old space rocket =
for less pay than they were entitled! You want me to cite that source? =
You.
=20
Oh yes, and let's just sit idly by while Kuwait gets wiped out. =
Mind our own business. You know I might not be so averse to that =
policy. Screw Germany and France. Screw you. The rest of Europe is =
with us. Britain, Portugal, Romania, Latvia, Estonia, Bulgaria, and =
other eastern european bloque countries, who have suffered similar =
oppression that Iraqis currently suffer from. So is Russia (after this =
Wednesday), Turkey, Japan, South Korea, and Australia. The Security =
Council is with us. So is the Iraqi American Council. This is not a =
western world-eastern world issue! Countries from both sides of the =
world are on our side! =20
=20
You can view the world through those blinders if you want. You =
can spout all of the crap that you want. The fact that I'm an American =
and that I value free speech keeps me from telling you to shut the hell =
up. Most people can think for themselves. And most people who research =
the facts and the history behind what is happening today will come to =
the same conclusion that I have. You may listen to your sources in the =
media, but you sure haven't gotten the perspectives from the Iraqi =
refugees who flew from the country. Nor from the Kuwaitis or the Kurds =
who were gassed and bombed. And you definitely don't know much of the =
history or the motives as to why the US and literally half of the =
civilized world is supporting this action!
=20
But I suppose I can thank you for one thing. I can now understand =
a little of why you seem to think that President Bush is more dangerous =
than Saddam Hussein, even though Bush is limited in what he can do by =
his country and by the Democrats and Hussein is not, and of the general =
apathy that others like you have towards affairs outside of their =
precious Shire. Unfortunately I don't understand enough of it and your =
reasoning continues to elude me. =20
=20
But that's probably why you haven't bothered to backup your =
opinions with facts. And the situation only continues to get worse as =
you keep putting forth more opinions and conspiracy theories. It's =
driving me nuts! And I'm done with it. =20
=20
Chris
=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I forgot, since you seem to have all =
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<DIV><FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>Drac</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>sw chris &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net">chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net=
</A>&gt;=20
kirjoitti <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:viestiss=E4:3e42c06b at server1.Activeworlds.com">viestiss=E4=
:3e42c06b at server1.Activeworlds.com</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You think I'm angry?&nbsp; No, I just =
think I=20
wasted my time on someone like you, and I let you know exactly what I =
thought=20
of you.&nbsp; I bolded the critical points in my message for your=20
benefit.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Opinions without facts&nbsp;are =
idiotic.&nbsp;=20
They're not informed opinions and generally don't make any sense when =
you=20
compare them with the facts as they are.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A favorite color does not require =
fact.&nbsp;=20
Why?&nbsp; Because you can't base your opinion on anything.&nbsp; You =
can base=20
your opinion on the news that comes out in this Iraq situation, as I =
have=20
done.&nbsp; Or you can be a left-wing wishy-washy who wants to promote =
his own=20
agenda and ignore what is staring&nbsp;him right in the face.&nbsp;=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You want facts?&nbsp; Here.&nbsp; =
Pour over the=20
last four months of this complete source listing:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>CNN</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>FOX News</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The O'Reilly Factor</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The Radio Factor</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>NY Times</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wall Street Journal</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>United Nations Cspan =
Coverage</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Statements by the Iraqi American=20
Council</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have destroyed your political=20
credibility.&nbsp; So I am satisfied.&nbsp; Have a nice =
day.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"count dracula" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:dracula at netsonic.fi">dracula at netsonic.fi</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:3e42b202 at server1.Activeworlds.com">news:3e42b202 at server1.Act=
iveworlds.com</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>LOL. Ok ok calm down I love Bush =
and also I=20
will kiss his ass if I meet him some day. USA is best, it is the =
greatest,=20
the most free country, nobody is homeless, nobody has been executed =
although=20
innocent nobody innocent has ever died for example in Viatnam out of =
a gun=20
held by a cit of USA. USA can never be wrong because it is the best =
country=20
in world.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just one thing, I can have opinions =
withouth=20
facts. I like for example black more than purple, I like carrots =
more than=20
herring and I do not need any facts why it is so.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not sure what facts you are =
refering to tho,=20
but once you have calmed down and taken your pills maybe you can =
look them=20
up for me again. I might have an ideology yes, I am probably a twit, =
but it=20
is just so fun to piss off ppl like you LOL</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Drac</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>sw chris &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net">chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net=
</A>&gt;=20
kirjoitti <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:viestiss=E4:3e42a191$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com">viestiss=E4=
:3e42a191$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You, sir, with all the respect =
that I can=20
muster,&nbsp;are an<STRONG> ideological twit</STRONG>.&nbsp; And =
that is=20
as nice as I can put it.&nbsp; I'm sorry, but <STRONG>this is =
getting=20
ridiculous</STRONG>.&nbsp; Hussein&nbsp;has attacked people.&nbsp; =
His own=20
people, the Kuwaitis,&nbsp;and Israelis.&nbsp; He funds =
Palestinian=20
suicide bombers, and therefore&nbsp;he attacks =
people!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What's even more ridiculous is =
your statement=20
about President Bush.&nbsp; US Presidents get 8 years in office, =
and only=20
if they're elected for two four year terms.&nbsp; They cannot =
officially=20
declare war, and are limited by all sorts of rules and regulations =
that=20
would make your head spin.&nbsp; If he tried to stay longer than 8 =
years,=20
they'd drag him out of office.&nbsp; If you're afraid that Bush is =
going=20
to become a despot, then your ideas about my country are so=20
<STRONG>twisted</STRONG> that you can't be trusted with any of =
your other=20
opinions about my country, those of which you haven't even =
bothered to=20
back up with facts.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You're ideas are so jaded that =
you even=20
actually entertained the possibility that the seven shuttle =
crewers who=20
died were actually <STRONG>forced</STRONG> by our US Government to =
go up=20
into space in a rickety old space rocket for less pay than they =
were=20
entitled!&nbsp; You want me to cite that source?&nbsp; =
You.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Oh yes, and let's just sit idly =
by while=20
Kuwait gets wiped out.&nbsp; Mind our own business.&nbsp; You know =
I might=20
not be so averse to that policy.&nbsp; Screw Germany and =
France.&nbsp;=20
Screw you.&nbsp; The rest of Europe is with us.&nbsp; Britain, =
Portugal,=20
Romania, Latvia, Estonia, Bulgaria, and other eastern european =
bloque=20
countries, who have suffered similar oppression that Iraqis =
currently=20
suffer from.&nbsp; So&nbsp;is Russia (after this Wednesday), =
Turkey,=20
Japan, South Korea, and Australia.&nbsp; The Security Council is =
with=20
us.&nbsp; So is the Iraqi American Council.&nbsp; This is not a =
western=20
world-eastern world issue!&nbsp; <STRONG>Countries from both sides =
of the=20
world are on our side!</STRONG>&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You can view the world through =
those blinders=20
if you want.&nbsp; You can spout all of the crap that you =
want.&nbsp; The=20
fact that I'm an American and that I value free speech keeps me =
from=20
telling you to shut the hell up.&nbsp; <STRONG>Most people can =
think for=20
themselves.</STRONG>&nbsp; And most people who research the facts =
and the=20
history behind what is happening today will come to the same =
conclusion=20
that I have.&nbsp; You may listen to your sources in the media, =
but you=20
sure haven't gotten the perspectives from the Iraqi refugees who =
flew from=20
the country.&nbsp; Nor from the Kuwaitis or the Kurds who were =
gassed and=20
bombed.&nbsp; And you definitely don't know much of the =
history&nbsp;or=20
the motives as to&nbsp;why the US and literally <STRONG>half of =
the=20
civilized world</STRONG> is supporting this action!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>But I suppose I can thank you for =
one=20
thing.&nbsp; I can now understand a little of why you seem to =
think that=20
President Bush is more dangerous than Saddam Hussein, even though =
Bush is=20
limited in what he can do by his country and by the Democrats and =
Hussein=20
is not, and of the general apathy that&nbsp;others like you have =
towards=20
affairs outside of their =
precious&nbsp;<STRONG>Shire</STRONG>.&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;Unfortunately I don't understand enough of it and your =
reasoning=20
continues to elude me.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>But that's probably why =
you haven't=20
bothered to&nbsp;backup your opinions with facts</STRONG>.&nbsp; =
And the=20
situation only continues to get worse as you keep putting forth =
more=20
opinions and conspiracy theories.&nbsp; <STRONG>It's driving me=20
nuts!</STRONG>&nbsp; And I'm done with it.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"count dracula" &lt;</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:dracula at netsonic.fi"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>dracula at netsonic.fi</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>&gt; wrote in=20
message </FONT><A =
href=3D"news:3e40f79b$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com"><FONT=20
face=3DArial =
size=3D2>news:3e40f79b$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com</FONT></A><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>&gt; <BR>&gt; sw=20
chris &lt;</FONT><A =
href=3D"mailto:chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net"><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net</FONT></A><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&gt; kirjoitti<BR>&gt;=20
viestiss=E4:3e4044f3$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...<BR>&gt; &gt; =
Comments=20
within...<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Could it be Bush is =
wrong at=20
this point??<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Well we could sit on our =
hands and=20
let Saddam have another decade.&nbsp; If you<BR>&gt; &gt; really=20
want.&nbsp; It's only America's ass.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; Once =
again I=20
have to ask, where is the proof that Iraque is about to =
attack<BR>&gt; USA=20
?<BR>&gt; Even if they would have some chemical weapons, that =
alone do not=20
prove they<BR>&gt; are planning to use them on USA, might as well =
be just=20
collecting them or<BR>&gt; planning a strike to Kuwait.<BR>&gt; =
One=20
interesting question also rise, where have Iraque bought these=20
weapons<BR>&gt; (if they have some)? Could it be that USA is so =
certain=20
they have them<BR>&gt; because they have sold them to Iraque at =
some point=20
?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; As far as I know USA (among other countries) =
has=20
messdestruction weapons.<BR>&gt; How come we are not meant to =
attack all=20
these countries, just in case,,<BR>&gt; after all they might be a=20
potential threat?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Myabe we shall only attack weak =

countries with these kind of weapons, and<BR>&gt; especially if =
they have=20
something valuable in their ground?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; "It is only =
America's=20
ass" you say,,well now Bush is making it my ass also.<BR>&gt; And =
so what=20
if Saddam has one more decade, let him be in his country as =
long<BR>&gt;=20
as he do not attack anyone. Bush might have one more decade also, =
and=20
THAT<BR>&gt; is scary.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Drac<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;=20
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yanst <ayansta at hotmail.com> kirjoitti
viestissä:3e3f4918$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
<snip>
>
> For example, at AWGate tonight, someone by the name of Bed Pan was asked
to
> change his name. He ended up leaving either because he didn't feel he
> needed to change the name, or he was ejected ( I don't think he was
> ejected.). I don't think much about the name of Bed Pan, but I understand
> care has to be taken to make sure even the slightest offensive tourist
name
> is dealt with at The Gate. If tourist Bed Pan came into Alpha World to
> chat, I feel there would not be a problem with his name.
>
<snip>

Maybe he was chinese?

My english is not very good but I do not see what is so bad with "Bed Pan",
it is like "Chair Coffeebrewer" or "Desk Spoon"
If he got ejected, shame on the one who ejected!

Drac

Feb 5, 2003, 8:31am

Ohh, I thought those were bedpans not Bed Pans.

Drac
bowen <thisguyrules at 7k2.4mg.com.ANTISPAM> kirjoitti
viestissä:3e3fe484$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
Pan",
>
> Bed Pans are those bowls you put under your bed that one... uses for
excretory
> measures.
>
> --Bowen--
>
>

Feb 9, 2003, 2:05pm

Argh, now you started it again, just as I had managed to make ppl hate me
LOL

Drac
jstone2004 <j at jlife.net> kirjoitti
viestissä:3e444d2f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> lol, compared to the huge Cy Awards fight that went on a few months ago,
the
> NG's are neutral nowadays :P
>
> J
>
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Feb 10, 2003, 3:02pm

I guess it is the first time I 100% agree with Linn * LOL*

If I had a shop, I would like people to come in. Maybe they would not buy
the first time anything; but one thing is sure, if I banned them at the
door, they would definetly not buy anything from me ever.


Drac
linn <ironhead at digitalpassage(dot)com> kirjoitti
viestissä:3e46bea6 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> dose noone yet realize the tourists were (key word were) the future cits
> of AW? really very simple sigh
>
>

Feb 10, 2003, 2:56pm

Well, honestly I do not think this helped improve it at all ;-)

Drac
d a n <awdan at aol.com> kirjoitti
viestissä:3e47d955$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> In the future i hope to have some decent topics in the community or i will
> consider unsubscribing from it :\
>
> ---
> D a n
>
> Is this the end?
>
>

Feb 12, 2003, 2:22pm

Much easier to clean up shit after a tourist than a cit tho :)

What kind of porn was it btw? ( just wanted to make sure because some ppl
refer to everything containing nudity as porn). It is a bit like calling
Coca-Cola coffee.

Drac
yanst <ayansta at hotmail.com> kirjoitti
viestissä:3e49afeb at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
>
> Help us!
>
> It seems there is a serious problem in many worlds with tourists littering
> with pornography. One such place was in Alpha World at the NASA momument
> site. There are others.
>

Feb 13, 2003, 12:46pm

Linn, you know that is bullshit LOL.
They did not get an award just because their worlds had some material that
could be classified pornograpic by some muslims,republicans, texans or other
persons with a limited capability of viewing things, but because they have a
working community, nicely built worlds and well done objects. Visit one of
those places, take a look at them buildwise and objectwise, dont judge them
because you do not understand their way of thinking.

Drac
linn <ironhead at digitalpassage(dot)com> kirjoitti
viestissä:3e4aa573 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I agree that all nudity isn't porn but url s in worlds to porn sites
> would need to be cleaned up too but wait didn't SOMEONE give them an
> award for just that this is why AW (well another reason) is going
> downhill AW has rules but like some other organization they either
don't
> enforce them or they change them to suit the occasion just plain
bad
> business
>
>
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Feb 22, 2003, 2:44pm

binarybud <leo at realPANTStourvision.com> kirjoitti
viestissä:3e4a8a8d$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I totally disagree. They need a good "spanking".

*Goes for my whip and head towards AWTeen to spank some teens*

Drac, ye olde pervert

Feb 14, 2003, 10:30pm

Kind of nice to see I am not the only weirdo in the NGs *g*

Drac
jacob the hero <warejacob at hotmail.com> kirjoitti
viestissä:3e4c5485$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Everyone, Active world is Cool! E n z o is Awsome Guy, I Like him, if you
> know Active world
>
>
> Telegram me
>
>
>
> ~Jacob The Hero~
>
>

Feb 25, 2003, 11:33pm

e n z o <enzo at activeworlds.com> kirjoitti
viestissä:3e5bd34d at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Nice site. You beat us too it!
>
Not really hard to beat you on things like this *LOL*

Drac

Feb 28, 2003, 12:20pm

Well, as I see it, a worldowner can test the stability of different
features "better" than a exploring cit. Especially when it comes to testing
the beta worldserver software and all new features within it.

I have the beta, but went back to 3.3 because I was tired of falling through
the ground all the time *lol*
But Innie has a point, I also belive worldowners and ppl who "live" in AW
would be more usefull for the beta than randomly visiting chatters.

Drac
kah <kah at kahnews.cjb.net> kirjoitti
viestissä:Xns9330908225B08kahatkahnewsdotcjbdo at 64.94.241.201...
> "goddess innie" <ami at chazdesigns.com> wrote in
> news:3e5ea19a$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com:
>
>
> Why? That you payed for a world doesn't mean you'll be helpfull on the
beta
> team. I think you've misunderstood the purpose of a beta. It's not some
> sort of evil elitist plot to give some select few a preview of new
> software, but a way for developers to become aware of, and fix, bugs
before
> releasing new software to the public. Just watch this newsgroup and send
in
> an application when they announce openings in the beta program. Whining
and
> insulting beta team members sure isn't going to get onto the beta.
>
> KAH

Mar 17, 2003, 3:39am

Ok, I cannot resist.

But president Bush is just teaching the world that one do not have to follow
rules and agreements, if they do not happen to suite one at the moment *g*
this is not political or anti-anything, just an observation)

Drac
binarybud <leo at realPANTStourvision.com> kirjoitti
viestissä:3e71f0c0$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> it's easy AW oewn AWgate and they do not want that crap there....
period....listen if they wanted only people with one hand comeing to the
gate guess what they can do that too.....just follow the damn rules and
your ok...and do not try to force YO ideas of how th egate should run on
others. we don't need debates and arguments at the gate....does that make
sense to you?
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