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A brighter and better Active Worlds!!! Tom, please read

Jun 7, 2001, 8:50pm
If you are 100% right, more the reason to remove pornographic material.

I will not take the credit for influencing anyone else to report
pornographic material that is eventually removed. You do it at your own
reward and I commend you if you do.

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A brighter and better Active Worlds!!! Tom, please read

Jun 7, 2001, 8:54pm
Feel free to cut and snip. Like I said, I won't add it back later.

As far as what goes on in other countries, I respect their leaders actions
to do so as they fit. I am in the USA, and there isn't a law I know of that
states "Those found not cutting and snipping text from Newsgroups will be
hung on sight". It just isn't there, I am sorry.



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A brighter and better Active Worlds!!! Tom, please read

Jun 7, 2001, 9:35pm
Like I said before a few times, if you wish to cut posts (which you aren't
doing yourself as to set an example of), I can assure you I won't put them
back in.

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A brighter and better Active Worlds!!! Tom, please read

Jun 8, 2001, 12:09am
Thanks for your support regarding the porn issue. As for posting the
conversation which took place in a public world, it is my understanding Tech
Talk with Roland, among other possible events logs chats and posts them as
well for people to read within the Active World's community.

If it is a wrong, then Active Worlds is doing it themself.



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A brighter and better Active Worlds!!! Tom, please read

Jun 8, 2001, 1:01am
I don't use the mic on voice chat programs, been that way since 97 when I
tried out Mplayer's service. Why? cause I don't want my voice recorded.

When I am in public settings, use your restaurant as an example, I don't say
things I don't want copied or transliterated into some other format. As
common courtesy, I suggest you do the same.

When people connect to the internet, they fail to realize that they are
exposing themself just as if they were out in a public restaurant and people
overheard their conversation. If others over see us chatting here, there is
nothing to stop them from copying and sending it to friends, etc....

That's just the way it is. There is a copy and paste option within Windows.
If you don't want your text to be copied and pasted, don't type it. Take
responsibility for your actions.

As this relates to Active Worlds, and as common courtesy to those others who
respect the rules of not displaying pornographic material, I do it by not
posting porn in public areas and I post information to the communities I
know of who might be effected by it so they can become better informed.

I hope this helps everyone in the end as a whole, despite the short term
disputes which arise out of misunderstandings.

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A brighter and better Active Worlds!!! Tom, please read

Jun 8, 2001, 1:08am
I posted it and people asked me questions like you are doing. Correct me if
I am wrong, but this newsgroup does facilitate questions and answers doesn't
it? That's why I respond. If you are reading this and you don't want a
response, then don't respond.

I am active in "Active" worlds, and I respond.

As for GET and PK's, I went them with no success during the month of April.
I then emailed Tom at activeworlds.com and he stated recently that they
appeared to decide that pornographic material was ok in their public world.

I went to the servers holding the pornographic material, and 2-3 weeks later
in May, the account was completey closed resulting in static images where
this person who referenced the material.

and with that, that's about it.

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A brighter and better Active Worlds!!! Tom, please read

Jun 8, 2001, 2:38am
Tell that to Active Worlds when they log chat sessions such as Tech Talk
with Roland.

And then tell that to AOL who logs chats.
Tell that to the maker of Power Tools who has a log option for chat in AOL.
Tell that to the whole irc group of users who log chats.
Tell that to the makers of irc chat programs.
Tell that to all programmers who make a text chat program whereby people can
log chats.

What you are saying doesn't really address morals, but more of a way to
attack me for bringing something to people's attention which you appeat to
not like.

I am doing a courteous act and notifying the community which I am part of
about pornographic material found in Active Worlds. People have shown
support in here and in chat programs including Active Worlds of my actions.
If I held it to myself and didn't bring it out to the open, it wouldn't be
addressed nor would it make me feel like I am doing anything to help the
problem get fixed.

As for your report analogy, I am not here to get a grade nor am I trying to
take credit for originality of 100% of the post. That is what people do
when they copy other people's works and put them in a report. They get 100%
of the grade, I am not. Whoever talked should have the credit. Nothing was
taken out of context, and it was raw data just like the logs mentioned here.


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A brighter and better Active Worlds!!! Tom, please read

Jun 8, 2001, 7:48am
Also, I just realized this. People don't know who is behind the screen they
type. Thethe sender can telegram to one screen name thinking only 1 person
who is typing is talking to them privately, but there could be a group of
people in the room reading the telegram from the sender.

Should everyone close their eyes while the person typing gets the sender's
permission? LOL

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A brighter and better Active Worlds!!! Tom, please read

Jun 8, 2001, 9:24am
"And unlike your chats, we want to read the Tech Talk logs."

If you don't want to read them, DON'T!! That simple.

As for dragging this "porn" issue out, there were levels of understanding I
needed to establish, being new to here and developing my position I TOOK
MANY PRECAUTIONS before coming here, and I did many things to make sure that
I was not doing something Active Worlds didn't want.

Level 1 - observation stage

After seeing the porn, I discussed it with other citizens like myself. They
didn't like it and commented on it.

Level 2 - question stage

I went to Peacekeepers, gatekeepers, and teachers who help out Active
Worlds. I told the teacher who taught me how to build and he went to look.
He didn't do much after that but acknowledged it was there. He probably
Active Worlds wouldn't do anything about it.

Level 3 - first stage of reporting

I went to Peacekeepers first at Ground Zero in AW regarding the porn I
found. After being told there was nothing they could do since they are only
peacekeepers, I went to gatekeepers.

At this time in mid April, if my memory serves me correct Baron from
http://www.peacekeeper.net/specialrt.htm initiated contact with me and
telegrammed me.

We discussed briefly the process, though this person never contacted me
again nor did they advise me to fill out any GET form which would have been
obtained by clicking a trash can at Ground Zero in AW.

Level 4 - second stage of reporting

Realizing that Active Worlds may not be an organization to solely go on one
person's actions, I then went down my contact list and notified everyone
online at that time and about 2 other occassions about the incident I
encountered finding pornographic material and trying to find a way to remove
it. Eventually I gave the coordinates to people I knew were adults to the
best of my knowledge, and I received a suggestion from one contact who said
I should contact the server holding the porn.

Level 5 - third stage of reporting

I didn't want to report the porn to the server until I talked with the owner
of the world. It clearly shows Tom at activeworlds.com as the contact so I
emailed him through my AOL account.

Level 6 - fourth stage of reporting

Three strikes you are out of there. After getting no response from Baron,
Tom, or activeworlds after other citizens reported the pornographic
material, I finally emailed the server holding the porn. Within 2-3 weeks
after, I went back to the spot where the pornographic material was
referenced, and I found out the account was completely closed that held the
porn.

Since that, my actions have transferred to the newsgroup.

I have reported the material gone, I have found out Tom with another group
of people decided to keep the porn up, and I went to talk to the person who
made the build with porn in it.

If there are any more details I remember regarding this I will let you know
and I hope you are now informed of what I have been through.


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A Brighter Better Active Worlds, Tom please read

Jun 6, 2001, 10:47pm
M a r c u s: Do you think pornographic material should be confined to worlds
considered private with this red circle?

Sassysha: actually yes, I dont consider My things pornographic, but porn and
other damaging material like death pictures by a citizen i saw once, very
disturbing, should not be on public worlds
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This was taken from the following conversation. Even the person who put up
the pornographic material realized it should not have been up, and they
changed additional pictures when I showed them that they contained nudity.


Operator: You have a telegram.

Telegram from Sassysha, sent just now:
I don't know why the pictures arent working, the urls probably
changed....may I join on you to see this?

Immigration Officer: Welcome to WildAW - This is a un-moderated world!
Parental discretion is advised - Be part of the WildAW GZ Midi contest -
Just send the best midi you can find that you think is fitting for WildAW
and send it to me - Tom at activeworlds.com
Immigration Officer: You are being joined by Sassysha.
Sassysha: alright, just loading a little M a r c u s
M a r c u s: ok
Sassysha: ohhh
Sassysha: the url must have changed, it wasnt Mine
Sassysha: I get lazy sometimes out here, because I play around with all of
this
Sassysha: would You like to see the house?
M a r c u s: yes
Sassysha: its not deathly or anything, i know the filenames are strange
Sassysha: its fantasy roleplay game stuff
Sassysha: jahni, prostrate before speaking boy
Sassysha: this way M a r c u s :)
Sassysha: the big glasshouse thing isnt Mine
M a r c u s: just so you know, I don't work with Active Worlds in any
capacity outside of just being a citizen
Sassysha: I dont have anything to hide ~laughs~ I just thought it might be
interesting to show someone around who found My place
M a r c u s: ok
M a r c u s: may I ask you a question
Sassysha: sure :)
M a r c u s: how old are you?
Sassysha: late twenties
Sassysha: and You?
M a r c u s: same here, 27 to be exact
Sassysha: good stuff ;)
Sassysha: a lot of kids around
M a r c u s: Did you know children can access this area?
Sassysha: but you get used to the warning signs ~laughs~
Sassysha: yes i know
Sassysha: do you have a problem?
Sassysha: its just based on some sci fi books, its interesting to recreate
the style of building
jahni TGT: this lowly slave kneels to the ground and presses his forehead
roughly against the dirt pleading with his Mistress to allow him entrance
Sassysha: ~looks at him~
M a r c u s: Children can come here and see some of the pictures I find
personally objectionable for children to see. At the same time, I want you
to have the role-playing environment you have created.
M a r c u s: How can we do this?
Sassysha: I understand, but most that pass by here telegram me and they are
generally other builders, not children
Sassysha: this is on the edge of the world :)
Sassysha: lots of Gorean spots along this edge
M a r c u s: I didn't telegram you and I found it
jahni TGT: his hands extended out into the dusty earth in submission to his
dark Mistress
Sassysha: well actually yes
Sassysha: enter jahni and come here pet
Sassysha: you did
M a r c u s: It's not that I don't want it in Active Worlds, I just think
there should be an adult section for this material where children can't
access.
Sassysha: i get grams about how pretty it is, people love the desert theme
and tele me to tell me they liked it
Sassysha: well thats why I keep the hard core stuff to My home world in AW
M a r c u s: Are you aware people reported the area I showed you to Active
Worlds during the month of April?
Sassysha: this is just experimental building a nice tame holiday home, so to
speak
jahni TGT: thelowly boy kneels at the beautiful Mistress's side, bathing in
the power radiating from her body
Sassysha: no thats interesting
M a r c u s: Apparently, they decided your pictures were ok, even though
children could get access to it
Sassysha: if someone emailed me with problems from activeworlds, then i
would hear that way, but since wildaw is unmoderated, its more free in
building styles
M a r c u s: that makes sense
Sassysha: well hmm, no more pictures lol
M a r c u s: Yes, since Active Worlds did not take the pictures down, a
group of people reported it to the server holding the pictures
Sassysha: im sorry that you find it offensive M a r c u s, not my intention
to harm anyones children or such, not many people come out here is all
Sassysha: and all this time no one telegrammed me, thats strange
M a r c u s: and I don't think you meant it, I am trying to find a middle
ground here
Sassysha: of course i didnt
Sassysha: they were pretty female art, paintings and i liked them.
M a r c u s: Sassy, the reason why I waited was because I wanted to
establish what Active Worlds allows and doesn't allow
Sassysha: mmhmm
M a r c u s: Sassy, I agree they were, but I don't think they would be
suitable in a children's classroom
Sassysha: ill save it next time lol
Sassysha: sorry to offend You M a r c u s, children shouldnt be unsupervised
anywhere, i wouldnt let my children if i had them online unsupervised, this
is a barren part of the world, i hardly ever meet anyone and i am out here a
lot with friends.
M a r c u s: I found one picture in the building here showing nudity, and I
am asking that you remove it.
Sassysha: wheres this M a r c u s.
M a r c u s: I'll show you
Sassysha: in here is My slaves , not Mine
M a r c u s: ok, the name is ambika sas, this is not you?
Sassysha: no, the Sas is my collar, ambika is the individual
Sassysha: different person
M a r c u s: Do you talk to this person still?
Sassysha: but I have access to all her privileges as her owner
Sassysha: i will change it in her stead
M a r c u s: I see
M a r c u s: thanks
Sassysha: youre welcome, i am civil lol
M a r c u s: So far, the ironic part is, you have been the only one who has
within the past 2 months
Sassysha: of who?
Sassysha: how is that for you
M a r c u s: I think that is fine, I wouldn't consider it under the category
of pornographic material
Sassysha: ~nods~
Sassysha: is thereanything else bothering you?
M a r c u s: not in here, are there other areas you post pictures that might
be as objectionable?
Sassysha: dont think so
Sassysha: not in this world ~laughs~
M a r c u s: Right, do you have pornographic material in any other worlds
that children may have access to?
Sassysha: no, they are private worlds
Sassysha: like I said, this is just a nice quiet away place to try out
different decoration schemes, have some fun
M a r c u s: by private you mean with a red circle next to their name?
Sassysha: yes
M a r c u s: Ok, 1 final quesion if I may
M a r c u s: Do you think pornographic material should be confined to worlds
considered private with this red circle?
Sassysha: actually yes, I dont consider My things pornographic, but porn and
other damaging material like death pictures by a citizen i saw once, very
disturbing, should not be on public worlds

A Brighter Better Active Worlds, Tom please read

Jun 6, 2001, 10:48pm
sorry about the double post, I didn't see it up the first time I tried
posting it.

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An interesting question

Jun 22, 2001, 3:42pm
I prefer to ACTIVELY do.

Wondering what is bad and what is good will keep you going around the
conversation loop. With that said I will continue doing, and you can "talk
about" stuff PASSIVELY.

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You got to see this

Jun 23, 2001, 7:30am
mike zimmer just posted the coolest thing in the "general.discussion" NG

Screen Shots of new awcom build world

Jun 29, 2001, 12:44am
One way to make them listen is to simply not sign up next year for anything
that would require you to pay them. Sign in and use their tourist feature
until you see it operate the way you want it to. That's what I intend on
doing when my citizenship runs out. I have only been here for 6 months and I
have seen the shabby service you are talking about. I feel sorry for you
veterans who waited on promises, I would have told you then they would never
come through. Until Active Worlds incorporates ideas and suggestions, they
will only have themselves to service.

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Re: Nav2001 AntiVirus Issue...

Jun 26, 2001, 8:38pm
Anti butt itching powder and computer viruses belong in the same NG?

Are we defining opposites now? LMAO



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Re: Nav2001 AntiVirus Issue...

Jun 26, 2001, 9:19pm
KAH, get that wand out of your hand. You are taking it to heart be some
means you can dictate what goes where. Not even Tom who posted a charter
earlier could layout what is acceptable and not in either NG. Either way it
is another step towards segregating the group, and yours is of dictatorship.
Neither addresses equality of the people.

Why not allow us to moderate our own area and develop sovereignty within the
group?

There would not be people like yourself and EEP pissing and moaning about
"this is off topic" wah wah wah "that doesn't belong there, and this doesn't
belong here and I am king/emperor, bring me more whine"

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midi playing bug found

Jul 10, 2001, 3:20am
He might be referring to areas where others are building.

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Townbuilders newsgroup idea

Jul 12, 2001, 3:38am
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In this thread, there seems to be more pissing and moaning regarding how =
you typed than the content regarding what you really suggested. This I =
will reply to in full support, and I hope Active Worlds does include =
that section. As for why they don't already and yet have a =
worldsbuilders section is probably due to the simple fact buiying world =
gives them money and for towns you can create them anywhere pretty much =
without needing to purchase a world first. Maybe Active Worlds would =
consider charging $25 for citizenship and take the time to actually =
include things we want. I am sure your ideal newsgroup would have =
already been implemented if that action had been taken.

[View Quote] 1. This shall be a place for towns-related matters.
2. Why does worldbuilders get its own newsgroup while townbuilders =
don't?
3. This shall be a place for towns advertising and etc.
4. This shall be good place to talk about towns-related matters away =
from burning newsgroup building (meaning a center for flaming posts)

I'm sure SW Comit, SW Chris, Syntax, CMM, KAH, Moff Piett will support =
this. SW Comit and his staff were builders of city called SW City, while =
I know KAH had built town, while Moff Piett had told me it was good =
idea. And also Goober King would like this place since his organization =
is for towns and cities. And surely will AWCommunity Register support =
it. Yes I know this community newsgroup may be good place for it but I'm =
tired and sick of flaming, and all of this crap, so it's time to move =
all town-related matter over to new place.

So please show your support for this petition, and I surely will thank =
you for these support. Thank you. Have a nice day.



Legion
SimCity Mayor and Activeworlds Users.
"I came, I saw, I build!"

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Townbuilders newsgroup idea

Jul 12, 2001, 5:08am
I clicked "Reply Group", and typed just like I am doing now. I didn't
intentionally click the "type html to annoy tony m" button (I don't even
know where that is LOL). If you don't want to read html posts, don't load
them.

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Townbuilders newsgroup idea

Jul 12, 2001, 3:22pm
Why can't it be set up so the responsibility is on the receiver's end to
only get plain text? There are plenty of html to plain text converters I
have personally used and it seems like an ideal thing if you really prefer
that.

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Townbuilders newsgroup idea

Jul 12, 2001, 4:18pm
With a $1000 computer, and paying for cable use, unlimited we should be
allowed to use the benefits of html and pics just like worldbuilders have
their benefits because they paid for it.

To limit everything to plain text makes for one real bland/undesirable
newsgroup. I still think filtering what you don't want is the best way to
go.

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Townbuilders newsgroup idea

Jul 13, 2001, 1:47am
That's why I suggested a conversion system.

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The new universe welcome message

Jul 14, 2001, 4:50am
Abuse of what wing?

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The new universe welcome message

Jul 14, 2001, 8:33am
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I heard about the new universe-wide welcome message that's going to =
be introduced in 3.2. Won't this be a bad idea for everyone? Think =
about it - you're holding an event and you're trying to get people to =
come when AW posts a universe message telling people to leave your world =
and go to AWBingo to play. Anyone else think about this?

Hmmm - let's all take a bet. I bet Eep will be the first to be =
completely and utterly without tact to a newbie, and wing will be a =
close second :) I'd say there'll be about 10 flames. :) They could =
just post a helpful reminder :) Just to show you how this newsgroup's =
going downhill :)

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Did you ever notice...

Jul 14, 2001, 1:24am
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I agree. I don't see why people complain about html posts. It gets =
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Did you ever notice that the people who have the most off-topic things =
to say waste the most space and downloading time? Notice Eep. He =
wastes 32kb of space and downloading time to try to make a point of not =
posting in html. Can't everyone just stick to the topic of the post and =
stop complaining about everything else. If people like Eep and Wing =
stopped complaining about the pointless things in everyone's posts it =
would save us a headache and a lot of downloading time. When people =
complain about this, it just makes everyone have to download more posts. =
Why not think of that the next time you complain about posting in html =
or another pointless off-topic thing.

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000>AWTeen Head Builder</FONT></DIV>
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Did you ever notice...

Jul 14, 2001, 8:40am
Tony Tony Tony, don't you think a better approach is to ask Active Worlds,
after all it is their board.

I doubt people's isp servers will have the authority to say what is and is
not acceptable on someone else's server. Let's say someone (Fred)
hypothetically uses their personal account for things that fall under
violation of terms of service with their isp and are forced to use a
different service by the isp (like switchover to a business account), then
maybe you have a good thing to report Fred. However, this just makes you
look like you are crying wolf. Active Worlds has not posted here with
anything to censor us. If there is abuse, it is on your end.


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Did you ever notice...

Jul 14, 2001, 8:53am
Fine, like I said, I don't see Active Worlds pissing and moaning yet.


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Did you ever notice...

Jul 14, 2001, 5:27pm
Can you clarify yourself please and tell me the overall point you are trying
to make?

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Did you ever notice...

Jul 14, 2001, 5:30pm
You trying to form a clan against Kmissle583k, Mike Zimmer, and me? We know
special html emotes, better watch out!!!

(_8-(|) DOH!!!


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