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Mar 19, 2002, 6:09pm

Buying out a company doesn't immediately make you a competant management..

You have to be actively participating in your product's development and
listen to your users. Telling them you're going broke because you're salary
is too high isn't what you do. Someone said that the founder of IBM *I
think* took a pay cut down to $1 until his company could get out of debt.

It's not that they're incompetant personally, but most of their management
decisions are. If you're losing money you don't rise prices, you lower them
in hopes to get more of a userbase and gradually increase it back, thus
creating more profit then you had before. But I agree with most of what you
said..

--Bowen--


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Hi Daniel,

While I am sorry to hear that you feel that JP and I are incompetent and
"have done more damage to AW than anyone ever has before", (*wondering where
YOU were when Worlds was shutting it down*) I can agree with your feelings
about AW.

I am unsure as to where this rumor about AW started but please be assured
that it is untrue.

Don't believe everything you hear either about me or AW,

Rick Noll

CEO
Activeworlds Corp.
(978) 499 0222


Well, it is a relief to hear that, and I sure hope he's letting the truth,
but I really don't know what to think, seeing as they have LIED, LIED, and
LIED again so many times in the past. And I STILL stand by my opinion of
their incompetence and of their damage to AW. If they actually do go through
with the "rumor" after stating this is would be even worse than anything
they have done before. Now all we can really do is sit and wait until the
next time AW management decides they want to rape the citizens up AW up the
ass.

Oh, and by the way, Mr. Noll, if I'm not mistaken I WAS there when world was
shutting it down and I recall news that there was a competing bid (I think
it was Protag and Da5id), so much for you being the "saviors" of AW you'd
like to make yourself out to be.

I think I'll give him a call one of these days to clarify why I shouldn't
believe what I hear about him.

Tell me what you guys think....

subDelta

Mar 19, 2002, 7:05pm

true, gives the rest of us a bad image.

--Bowen--

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Mar 20, 2002, 1:15am

It's the rule of thumb to running a business. If you want more money, get
more users. The only way to do that is to lower your price to an affordable
to all level then gradually raise it back up to it's original state. So say
lower it to $10 a year.. then raise it up $5 a year after the first year
until it gets to about $25. Not only will most of the userbase stay you'll
end up with a lot more people then you had originally. Then there's the
people that buy a lot of cits.

Anyone who's taken an economics course would understand that.

--Bowen--

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Mar 20, 2002, 1:36am

Wow I feel honored that you used my post. :) For some reason now I feel
they're gonna come after me LoL.

--Bowen--

<snipped clean>

Mar 20, 2002, 1:55am

LoL :) I'm not really.. if they don't want me using their software.. ok I
won't. I'm not too worried.

--Bowen--

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Mar 21, 2002, 6:08pm

Hmm.. I don't think it's anything new. The higher management hasn't always
told the complete truth.

--Bowen--

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Mar 23, 2002, 9:46pm

From what I heard they haven't. They're liberal arts majors, which doesn't
make them at all qualified to run a business. Seems that their business
expert isn't too swift either...

--Bowen--

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Mar 24, 2002, 1:45am

Yeah, it's all true. Makes me wonder whom they backstabbed to get ahold of
the company.

--Bowen--

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Mar 31, 2002, 2:00pm

Mmm, the smell of script kiddies is in the air today ladies and gentlemen.

--Bowen--

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Mar 31, 2002, 2:07pm

Most likely he'll get them again. What's the point? Rotate them every 2
days. This is why you close off access to your worlds ;).

--Bowen--

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Mar 31, 2002, 2:09pm

A lot of those AW ones everyone knew...

--Bowen--

Apr 1, 2002, 6:59pm

LOL! he's not a hacker, he used a program to cause damage, that's a script
kiddie/cracker.

I believe script kiddie fits him best.

--Bowen--

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Apr 3, 2002, 12:48am

Most of your personal information is available to the public. Name,
birthdate, location, etc. It's the matter of what they do with that
information that makes it criminal or not.

--Bowen--

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Apr 3, 2002, 6:00pm

No, you're a male, probably still a child. Question, can you support a wife
and children at the moment? Not tomorrow, not yesterday, right now.

--Bowen--

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Apr 3, 2002, 6:18pm

I could probably, yes. Some people take it seriously, that's why it didn't
pass of as a joke ;)

--Bowen--

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Apr 3, 2002, 6:43pm

LoL that's right, I was going to mention that, decided not to :P

--Bowen--

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Apr 2, 2002, 7:52pm

AW never had a strong stock, ever. I don't think it ever jumped past $5.

--Bowen--

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Apr 2, 2002, 8:07pm

Depends on what you mean by "safe." Finacially? No. Community? Kinda,
but it's deminishing due to the bad business choices of the executives.

Just don't invest too much money into it, you'll be safe until they go
under.. and there's no doubt in my mind that they won't. Bad business
choices means a plunder in users.. which means no business.

Come on AW management. Lower prices to $20-30 a year and advertise. You'll
soon have a great flow of users and money coming in if you do that. I
remember when there used to be 30-40 new cits dialy, now it's done to 5-10.

--Bowen--

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Apr 3, 2002, 12:25am

That is very true. Economics is a game. :) You have to have skill, but
you also have to rely on luck to get you through it. There is no safe way,
but there's a better chance if you try to bring in more people, instead of
alienating those that are already present and are the lifeline of the
community.

I'm not sure that their economics expert is even an expert. Rather just a
friend of theirs, that's just my theory. I think they need to think about
things more carefully, and really examine the effects of what will happen if
they implement something else. Look at past company mistakes, that should
be quite a clear example. From what I've seen, you're very correct Chris.
Lowering prices while advertising increases demand, and increasing prices
increases demand for substitue goods.

Economics was a fun class to take though. :)

--Bowen--

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Apr 6, 2002, 7:22pm

Actually it's not, he made them in notepad. And there's little pieces of
them.

--Bowen--

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Apr 11, 2002, 8:27pm

It takes a great, great deal of maturity to play a game like what he's set
up.

--Bowen--

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Apr 25, 2002, 6:18pm

That's very nice.. I like it :)

--Bowen--

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Apr 26, 2002, 1:21am

Looks pretty nice, what's the new one look like, so I can make a choice?

--Bowen--

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Apr 26, 2002, 4:21pm

That stuff could be easily added into his design. It's a very nice design,
nice and light compared to the dark black and purple that's hard to makeout
sometimes. The Forums and voting could be easily fit into Jerme's design
:).

--Bowen--

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Apr 26, 2002, 5:58pm

Well using center centers the page based on the browser's visable field, so
it'd fine either way.

--Bowen--

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Apr 29, 2002, 1:55am

Welcome aboard. :) Some advice though, try not to cross post to unrelated
newsgroups. *didn't know what cross posting was until I used AW*

--Bowen--

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Apr 30, 2002, 12:55am

It works on all windows

--Bowen--

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May 3, 2002, 9:39am

Oh, they use PHP scripts to randomly (or orderly) choose the pictures from a
dir.

--Bowen--

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May 5, 2002, 3:16pm

Lmao, jeez. Guys, this is a program, it's not a real TV. ABN is not a
company. Anyone can "broadcast" whatever they want from the CY awards. Are
you going to sue someone if they do! Oh No! Captain Obvious must save me
from these evil doers and explain why you can't. *smack* Wake up, it's a
community event.

--Bowen--

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May 6, 2002, 12:18am

From things like web news sites.. awnews I think it is?

--Bowen--

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