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Jan 26, 2005, 6:22pm

yep, i agree with jadedaemt. you were disscussing (atleast begining to)
you're sexual orientation, and so, that would be a good enough reason to
eject you. which would make "i like females" ejectable too.

And just my opinion, but i'm guessing the GK at the time, wasn't so much
being homophobic, as cautious. It looked like you were going to start
causing trouble.


-SWE

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Jan 26, 2005, 10:56pm

actually, technicly, he did break a rule, check the other posts.

-SWE

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Jan 29, 2005, 1:22am

i guess the rule could be stretched to mean that. yes O_O
and ya, i agree, it's just a gatekeeper being a total jackass, but of well,
screw it, and move on, and no need to post ever GK arguement on the ngs.

-SWE

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Feb 1, 2005, 11:42am

wow lol, that has got to be the most childish GK there is. from the 2 logs
i've read (yours and rossy's) gotta wonder, what sorta idiots do they let be
GKs, seriously O_O

-SWE

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Feb 1, 2005, 4:57pm

ya, there are probably alot more good ones, then there are bad ones, but
it's those few bad ones that can really put you off the GKs are a whole.
like having a bad experience with something, and then being put off anything
similiar.

-SWE

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Jan 29, 2005, 1:20am

ok, pretty sure about this, and it's not so much a 'feature' as a
programming thing.
it's becuase you can't have numbers over about 32,000,000,000+/- (can't
remember the exact amount), and if numbers go over that, then it loops,
to -32######### and so, at the high point, AW won't let the number,
representing your position go any higher, or you'll end up at the opposite
side of the world.

hard to explain O_O

-SWE

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Jan 29, 2005, 7:26pm

past 32764n, or west or whatever? no you can't...

-SWE

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Jan 29, 2005, 9:27pm

ya, were talking about the actual person though :)

-SWE

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Jan 30, 2005, 8:42pm

emm, ya, but then no one can join us.
thing is, sometimes you're doing something, and don't want another window to
just suddenly pop open, and stopping you from whatever you're working on.
can be very annoying. and blocking join would cause another problem, were
you can't have anyone join you. sometimes you'll check who's trying to join
you, but not straight away. like quickly finish something off, then maximize
AW, and accept, or decline, or ignore or whatever.
but, now, if AW automaticly maximizes, just going to be very very annoying.

-SWE

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Feb 1, 2005, 11:43am

ya, doesn't matter what colour the terrain is, the mapper doesn't render the
terrain, it just puts green pixels on the empty cells. think so anyway O_O

-SWE

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Feb 1, 2005, 11:50am

just my opinion, but the thing were you can only select one catagory to be
nominated for, is wrong in my opinion.
i mean, what if someone creates a realistic world, which is totally
innovative, and has a great landscape, then wouldn't be fair that he(yes he,
we all know a woman couldn't pull something like that off! :P) cannot be
nominated for all 3 catagories O_O especially since it would take 3 times as
much work.

-SWE

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Feb 12, 2005, 4:51pm

ya, em, sounds to me like they're bullshitting.
first, juvenile detention? for running cracked software? how often does that
happen? if the RIAA can't send people away for "stealing" and "distrubuting"
thier work, how's activeworlds going to send some kids to jail?
and thier legal team? how much could they possibly sue them for? i'm sure
they would never make even a fraction of that $250,000 they said they would,
so wouldn't be worth the costs. hell, doubt AW could afford the legal costs,
would probably bankrupt them.
And finally, people in AW aren't yet into that whole cold hearted
corporation shit, were they sue whoever they can, not caring about what
happens to them, just to sent an example. They're a small company, no
pressure on them to stop them from having a conscience.
so i'm guessing that's bullshit.

-SWE

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Mar 9, 2005, 3:51pm

see, you could look at it that way, but the fact is, AW is considered a
source of entertainment you could say, and with entertainment, history is
not something you keep, because history only usually means (except in the
rare film ro song) that it's shit by todays standards.
ya, there are the few classic movies, but how many companies do you see
marketing them? how many people do you see trying to make a black and white
movie, or go back to making special effects in movies, frame by frame.
the fact is, no one wants to visit and 3D enviroment of any kind, and see
old, detailless textures and objects. because even though that was
acceptable 10 years ago because of hardware limitations, it isn't now.
and as for the empire state building, i'm sure for one, they made a couple
of modifications to it. like newer elevators, central heating/cooling,
whatever. and if it was considered unefficent (as in, taking in less money
then the land is worth) they wouldn't hessitate to knock it down.
Fact is, AW gz should be a show of what could be done in activeworlds,
instead of what had been done years ago.

Oh, and could always move the GZ somewhere else. you could argue that it
wouldn't be "the same". but hey, it's not physical. and if that was the
case, then if the AW server was moved, or just the propdump thingy majiga
was moved, then techniclly, it's just a copy of the original GZ anyway.

-SWE


[View Quote] > No idea who you are, but you should have a little more respect. To change
> AWGZ is to change something of historical value. To you know any of the
> stories behind the place? Do you know any of the actual history? Tell me,
> what is "Bel's Corner", why is it the way it is? So, what, hey, why dont
> we go and knock down the Empire state building. Why dont we go knock down
> the White House, oh, or the Washington Monument. See, those places are a
> part of American history. They are part of that countries history, and it
> disgusts me, that you, who are one of the ones who sit there and probably
> go on about how much they "lvoe aw!" that you would even begin to think
> about knocking down a piece of living history. Aw is one of THE oldest VR
> environments running on the web. There is nothing else like it. There
> never will be - it is as much a nation as anywhere else. As much a
> COMMUNITY as anywhere else, as any other mation on this earth. It has had
> wars, it has had deaths (yes, and some of those who are no longer with us
> have a lot of history in AWGZ - do you accept the defiling of memorials
> also?), it has had pain, love, life birth, sacrifice .. it is a virtual
> monument to TEN YEARS of a new world. That world may no longer be in its
> golden days, but that doesnt mean that you go and piss on those who made
> that world what it is in order to have WEEEEE BLING BLING NU GRAFIIIX!!!
>
> Ignorance? Dont even start with me mate, you are outmatched,
> out-historified, out-knowledged and out clued - and if you seriously want
> to try to match me in a flame war, then please, pretty please - bring it
> on. I havnt had fun arguing in this forum for some time. If not, and if
> you want to actually start showing some respect for the history of the
> software you procalim to love, slink back into YOUR corner, and shut the
> fuck up :)
>
> I think I might hang around a while, it seems some of you newbies might
> need to actualyl learn a little more about what went into this community
> from the very start. I'm quite happy, and MORE than eager to teach :)
>
> Take care now.
> F.
>
> ps - I never went anywhere. I never left, and I never intend to. Guess you
> havnt met me before - but now you have. I'd say that makes you pretty
> special, to be able to get me out into the open like this.

Mar 9, 2005, 4:12pm

Yes, i know what alpha means, but i see no indication of it meaning that
it's something that doesn't change. it could be named alpha world, like
calling someone the alpha-male, seeing how it's the largest world, and
probably the most popular.

And history? is freaking 8-10 years old, what sort of history is that? how
am i ment to learn from that? i've got toys with more history then that.
plus, whats there to learn? what people built 10 years ago? well whooptedoo
for them. they did alright, but now people are doing much better.
anyway, unless Activeworlds have the intention of leaving AW as a preserved
world, then they should update the damn GZ, and objectpath. if they are
"preserving" it, then they need to open up a new huge public building world

Fact of the matter is AW is dying, and old ass building sets and GZ play a
pretty big part in that. Think about how important image is in food, how
having the food look nice, is as important as having it taste good. it's
even more important in Activeworlds. could have all the features in the
world, but if it aint got pretty worlds, no one is going to care.

-SWE

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Mar 9, 2005, 8:22pm

See, ok, apart from what strike said (which i agree with) going to add a few
other things.
first, no need to act rude, we are having a debate, not an arguement.
telling someone to leave, and go play with thier toys, quite immature...
anyway, the reason people complain about things, is because they want to see
it improved, and don't want to give up hope on it.
Yes, there are a couple of good builds there, but they only appear good
because of the limitations. give me a set of blueprints( i'm not creative
you see) and i guarentee that i (or anyone else who knows how to
model/texture) could make the buildings look 10x better, just by modeling a
few, more efficent models, and better textures.
They are good builds, but they totally kill you're frame rate, and take more
work then they should/could with better objects. which, is why the OP needs
to be updated. but we are talking about the GZ anyway.

The GZ, is like the lounge/welcome area to a hotel. if it looks old, and
butt ugly (which the AW gz does, but thats just my opinion) you won't care
if it's been built by fucking jesus, you'll get a bad impression of the
hotel, and the country you're staying in, especially if it's seen as a
landmark. and that is what is happening with AW(alphaworld, not
activeworlds). people enter the worlds, such as AW, and some of the other
public worlds, take a look, and get a bad impression of the world, and the
universe as a whole, and so, could help persuad them to leave. and don't try
arguing that point, because it's true, it's just the way people
are(psycologically).

and so, i think the AW gz definatly needs updating, and so does the OP. and
after that, they can go update the rest of the world GZs.
The sad thing is, there is lots of talent available for them, lots of people
who would gladly help make the gz/objects and who would want nothing in
return, but seams AW don't want to "waste" thier time on setting up a
community team, which would save them so much more time.

-SWE



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Mar 9, 2005, 8:58pm

oh, well sorry, must of misunderstood. was watching tv, and not very patient
after watching a bad show :)
well, the thing is, complaining could actually help. on the rare chance
anyone from AW sees this, they will know how we feel. and plus, it's a anger
relief thing. we need to let out our frustration, and say what we think
about AW, or we will just really annoyed, and probably end up leaving.

As for the objects. the fact is, anything can be made up from the simplest
of objects. when you think about it, the only thing even the most complex
objects are, is a bunch of squares (talking in AW turns, so don't no one try
to be a smart ass and start talking about nurbs, and whatnot). but, since
the shapes of the planes in aw can't be changed, then they've got to update
it, or everything made will just look..wrong.
and all though normal builds will never look as good as the enviroments in
games, seeing how everything there is specificlly made for the enviroment,
and everything is modeled to fit perfect, the GZ can, and so, i think it's
important for them to start somewhere, and build out (i.e, work on the op as
a whole, update old textures, objects, etc).
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Mar 15, 2005, 7:40am

uhuh, see, customers are more important then stock holders. and so, we are
giving our opinion on things, and hoping for a change for the better.
Ever wonder why in most cases, companies hire call centers to take
complaints/queries/suggestions from customers, but only have a stock holders
meeting annually(well, except for directors, but thats a diffrent story)?

-SWE

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Feb 26, 2005, 2:06am

just thought i'd put my input. i'm not a gor, but that page is pretty dumb.
first, if anyone's a gor, and a slave, or whatever, they are, because they
choose to be, not because they are forced into it.
being a gor (as far as i know) is just a way of living, a cult type thing.
people who take part in it, do so because they choose to. there is nothing
illegal about it, it is just diffrent. it is a bunch of people with a
diffrent way of enjoying themselfs. doesn't make them bad people, just
diffrent.

Personally, i think people should get over the whole hatrid to gors thing.
nothing wrong with them, they're people, they do nothing wrong, so let them
live thier lives, and have thier worlds in AW. what harm could they really
do? and even if they have thier occasional murderer, or pedophiles, so what?
1 person doesn't represent a whole community/cult type thing.

-SWE

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Feb 26, 2005, 2:09am

no, you have a pinky, index, middle, emm, ring(?) and thumb! ^_^

-SWE
-ya i know, just wanted to show off me knowing thier names! ^_^


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Feb 25, 2005, 7:30pm

emm, just checked out the valentines message things and, isn't valentines
day ment to be about intimate(sp?) relationships, and not other sorts of
love? you know, a boyfriend-girlfriend sort of thing, and not a friend
thing?

-SWE

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Feb 26, 2005, 1:07am

well it's wrong >_<

-SWE

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Feb 27, 2005, 3:04am

awww, mummy got some candy for her good little boy? so cute :P

and valentines day is about relationships with people who you love, in a
non-related sort of way (except for wifes/husbands), and no one else!

-SWE


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Mar 3, 2005, 11:27pm

damn trekkies >_<

-SWE :P

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Mar 3, 2005, 11:31pm

"Is there a list of codes you can use"
oh, didn't she?

-SWE

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Mar 4, 2005, 10:37am

yes, but Gnu said: "She didnt ask for the code, she asked for a list of
masks"
and my point was, her wording could just as well mean the codes, as a list
of mask. only thing that kind of gives it away is that she says the world
name.

-SWE

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Mar 7, 2005, 10:44pm

and now, I go back to my original theory.
AWI is run by people who obviously know barely anything about either running
a business, managing it, or organising all their information/records
properly, and have just been luckily making it through these years.

A few things they need to realise are, first, the most important part of a
business is it's customers(which you think would be obvious) followed by
it's product and how they sell it ( just seams to me that AW have not been
putting enough work into the only thing they sell). Second, their employees
need to think, and check up information before they act, as they should be
expected to act professionally. third, they need to organise their
information better, and have it easily accessible.
You'd think that would be pretty easy to handle in such a small company...
oh, and sorry if I sound like I'm bitching too much, just really pisses me
off when they do things like that, and right now, I'm easily irritated.


-SWE


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Mar 9, 2005, 8:08pm

actually, my personal opinion, a GZ in a world such as AW, would bring in
far more then just 10 customers, assuming it's built well.
It will make the browser as a whole look better, more powerful, and so, will
make it more interesting to most people. In something such as AW, art is
definatly the most important thing. i mean, look at how important art is in
a game? and don't say AW is not a game, because even though it's a chat
sorta enviroment, it's still a 3d platform, and for the people who don't
build, they browse, and if you browse, you want what you're browsing to look
great. and for the people who build, they would surely want to build with
well made objects.

-SWE

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Mar 10, 2005, 9:14am

because there are people who have invested alot of time in building over
there, and wouldn't want to leave it all. like the SW City people for
example :)

Would be alright for new users though.
-SWE

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Mar 10, 2005, 9:18am

lol, well, we would have a problem if everysingle one of them was a
stereotypical GK, but the fact is that lots of them are (not all, probably
not even the majority). and since there are so many problems with GK abuse,
AW's gotta do something about it. i mean, imagine if like, 40% of the cops
in the USA, would deport you out the washington DC for doing something which
isn't even a crime. Woyuld definatly have a big drop in tourists visiting.

-SWE

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Mar 10, 2005, 9:39am

emm, no see, I misspelled, and you misread.
I was talking about if cops deported ordinary people, not "bad people". Then
no one would go there, because of not wanting to be harassed(sp?). This
would put a bad image on the goverment as a whole, and soon, people would
start moving to other countries. but in AW's case, no one has to leave to SL
or there, they could just leave as a whole, and spend less time online.

-SWE

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