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Feb 8, 2001, 11:34pm

Duh; still not worth responding to...<shrug>

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Feb 8, 2001, 11:44pm

[View Quote] [View Quote] And I just wanted an explanation for why you took the newsgroups were down. "I was working on them" doesn't cut it. You asked for an apology AFTER I asked for an explanation, which you eventually finally gave after it was practically beaten out of your sorry ass. But before you did you mentioned this "vote" to ban me. If anything, THAT is tripe, sport.

> Your other opinions
> "oh, me big dragon hunter" - what tripe Eep. I dont care about power, I care
> about the community - if I didnt, this wouldnt even be up for vote, I would
> of jsut said "Eep is now banned" and that would be the end of the story,
> and, it would of been *alot* easier than organising a vote for the
> community.
>
> I dont want you to suck up to me, I dont even want you to *talk* to me.
>
> You do not understand the need to want to do things for the community,
> because you yourself hardly even care about it. Just because you dont, does
> not mean that others dont - and my heart is at least int he right place,
> even if this may not of been the correct course of action - who are you to
> judge anyone when it comes to that?
>
> Get *over* it. I have no secret illuminati agenda, I have always been *very*
> honest with the whole community - always. I dont need approval from my
> "Bosses", I dont need approval from you, or the gnomes of Zurich - the only
> person I need approval from, is myself, and *I* approve of what I am doing,
> because I know my heart is in the right place - and that it is with the
> community, like it always *has* been.

You THINK it's with the "community", but it's not; it's with you and you alone. Had you thought otherwise you would not have then passed off the responsibility to the community to ease your conscious on the matter. You have played a subtle, but important, card in showing your hand, Facter, and I've called your bluff. Now fold before you lose your entire pot.

Feb 8, 2001, 11:56pm

You should know me well enough by now to know I won't just stand by and let this vote happen or accept its outcome one way or another, Darla. I appreciate your and others support but I must stand up for what I believe in. I don't think Facter truly believes in what he's doing or he would NOT have shoved it off to the "community" (and only in the newsgroups, too, I might add) to decide. Where are Rick, JP, and the other AWCIers' opinions on this matter? Where is Lucrustia's dictatorial opinion? Facter obviously has too much power and is left ungoverened by Rick and JP; the power is going to his head and he needs to be put in his place since his Aw parents (Rick and JP) don't seem to be doing their employee management job.

[View Quote] > Do a favor- PLEASE????? I know, He's being an ass, do NOT reply though. The
> community seems to be on your side. You will come out of this better if you
> don't reply. I know it's probably hard not to, but ignore him. I'm sooo
> disgusted with all this. It's just my humbly given although unsolicted
> advice.
> You know I care!
>
> From: "eep" <eep at tnlc.com>
> Newsgroups: community
> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 6:21 PM
>
> AWCI's
> people
> have
> say....
> you
> and
> guys
> do
> asskisser. Let the "community" regulate itself. AWCI tried moderation before
> and it didn't work. Perhaps if you knew your AW newsgroup history better
> you'd've realized that before ever thinking about attempting to ban me. You
> made a mistake and are now simply trying to brush it off (something you seem
> to be getting better at) onto the newsgroup posters, when most, if not all,
> don't give a shit whether I stay or go, or your little power trip and low
> self-esteem.
> problem
> boot
> part

Feb 9, 2001, 1:20am

You may not have made it part of the "official" voting "rules", but considering you mentioned it only HOURS (if not minutes) before you posted those "rules", I seriously doubt you're still not thinking about it. You're such a fucking twit, Facter. You say one thing yet do another, then you later attempt to skirt around it by claiming "<whine> but it's not part of the rules&!*(#". You fucking disgust me with every post you make. You've always been a twit to me over the years in how you act and what you say and do, but now you're nailing the point home in this latest attempt at "helping the community". What you FAIL to realize is that you are actually helping to DESTROY the community by this latest charade of AWCI (of which you are ineptly a part of).

YOU, idiot twitfuck moron pissant, have no grip on logic. Now evolve already...and get over yourself.

[View Quote] > Umm, hello, if that was part of it - it would of been int he voting post
> that I put up.
>
> I said, that I will no post in here, and, at this point , that is not
> actually determined - but that, has nothing to do with this vote...
>
> You have no grip on logic.
>
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Feb 9, 2001, 4:38am

[View Quote] > asskisser. Let the "community" regulate itself. AWCI tried moderation before
> and it didn't work. Perhaps if you knew your AW newsgroup history better
> you'd've realized that before ever thinking about attempting to ban me. You
> made a mistake and are now simply trying to brush it off (something you seem
> to be getting better at) onto the newsgroup posters, when most, if not all,
> don't give a shit whether I stay or go, or your little power trip and low
> self-esteem.
>
> My AW newgroup history ? I was posting in here, ona very frequent basis,
> before you had even HEARD of AW Eep.

Very good. Yet you forget about how oppressive these newsgroups USED to be and what happened to the newsgroups when they were: they went silent. So unless you'd like them to return to that dismal state, keep up your ridiculous and childish vote.

> Incorrect - YOU made the mistake Eep - you, and you only. This situation
> would *not* exist if you were any kind of rational, tolerable and decent
> person, with respect for tohers. How easily you twist things around to your
> own wants.

<chuckle> Ah, yes, now it's all MY fault. Boo hoo. I'm SUCH a horrible person. I rip heads off Barbie dolls and steal candy from babies at EVERY chance I get. Muhuhhahahaha. Get out much, Facter? I'm quite tame compared to MOST people.

It was YOUR bad decision to hold a vote about getting me banned. If you had a high enough self-esteem to not have to abuse your newly acquired "power" over the newsgroups, you would not be in this situation. But, alas, you need to mature some more yet and finish withdrawing from all those drugs you used to do.

> One can only try - I tried and failed - too bad.

Don't try so hard, champ. Direct your attention to your bosses, Rick and JP, and leave us citizens alone--we can regulate ourselves JUST fine, thank you.

Feb 9, 2001, 4:47am

<chuckle> Obviously, if true, Rick and JP are just as inept at making a d=
ecision as you are, Factwit. What doesn't become YOU is the fact that you=
let personal feelings get in the way of morality. Oh and I will SPEAK on=
ANYTHING I damn well feel like. Got it? No? Let me ram the point down to=
your Australian punk ass some more, kid. This is America. We have free s=
peech here, regardless of the forum. I am not constantly attacking people=
left and right. I am not constantly swearing and posting obscenities, sp=
am, or the like. I am participating in this pathetic excuse for a communi=
ty, unlike MANY AWers. I have also contributed a LOT to this fucking comm=
unity, unlike MANY AWers. You may have been in AW longer, Facter, but who=
's made more of an impact? Me. Not you. Me. Got it? You may work for AWCI=
as one of their trained grunts, but you've sold out and gone to the "dar=
k side". However, I will continue fighting for the users of AW and not be=
pushed around by fuckwits in charge with too much power they easily abus=
ed such as you. NEVER EVER FUCKING FORGET THAT FACT. I'll simply ram it d=
own your pathetic throat again and again until you either break down ball=
ing or simply accept it and move on. Don't fuck with me, Facter.

[View Quote] [View Quote] > appreciate your and others support but I must stand up for what I belie=
ve
> in. I don't think Facter truly believes in what he's doing or he would =
NOT
> have shoved it off to the "community" (and only in the newsgroups, too,=
I
> might add) to decide. Where are Rick, JP, and the other AWCIers' opinio=
ns on
> this matter? Where is Lucrustia's dictatorial opinion? Facter obviously=
has
> too much power and is left ungoverened by Rick and JP; the power is goi=
ng to
> his head and he needs to be put in his place since his Aw parents (Rick=
and
> JP) don't seem to be doing their employee management job.
>
> Incorrect AGAIN. You have *no* idea what you are talking about - this i=
ssue
> has been discussed in the office, *with* my superiors, and with full
> permission to try and remedy the situation - it was decided to give the=

> *users* a chance to show that they themselves can make a decision - thi=
s has
> failed.
>
> Do *not* speak on that, which you have no idea Eep, it does not become =
you.
>
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Feb 9, 2001, 12:06pm

Do you know what hypocracy means? It means to do say one thing yet do another. Facter said the newsgroup charter is enforceable by AWCI without the need for the newsgroup community to vote on issues relating to it. Hence, the vote to ban me from the newsgroups was hypocritical. Get it?

[View Quote] > You got to be kidding Eep. Facter has been giving you more chances to shape
> up your act. And you call that hypocrisy? If I owned AW I would have banned
> you completely long ago.
>
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Feb 10, 2001, 9:55am

[View Quote] > Sorry Eep it wasn't.

Sorry, Jeiden, it was. To say one thing yet do another is hypocritical. Facter said the vote wasn't at all necessary to ban me from the newsgroups, yet he went ahead with it anyway instead of simply banning me as per the charter terms. Hence, hypocracy.

> Even though AWCI can if they wished boot you
> both here and in AW. The vote to get you banned was not hypocrisy on
> their part. It was an effort to 1) see what the current views of the
> community are and 2) proved to be your second chance. Because if you
> had lost the vote you would not still be here.
>
> Basically you are now on your last chance and from what I have read
> of the newer posts, you are also on very thin ice. I, myself wouldn't
> be so nice as Facter was if I became the moderator of these news
> groups. I would have banned you at the first time you broke the
> charter, instead of like Factor give you a chance to save yourself.

Uh huh...well you're not in charge now are you? Nope.

AW's banned me from AW and the newsgroups before so that's nothing new to me. However, I've always been let back in either after threats of going to the BBB (of which I've already filed a report once) and/or causing an injustice outcry in various forums besides these newsgroups, sometimes spawning in protests. I've never been banned for something that wasn't protected under the 1st Amendment and as such have eventually been allowed back in.

Is it really necessary to include PGP signatures in here? Security isn't an issue here.

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Feb 10, 2001, 1:35pm

Ever heard of quoting?

[View Quote] > The I just installed the program and hadn't had a chance to disable the auto
> sign feature.

Huh? What are you talking about?

> Also the BBB could do nothing if AW banned you for insulting people and
> causing a disruption to the company.

I submitted a consumer complaint to the BBB when then-COF didn't have its PROMISED public building worlds open at the time citizen registration took effect in 10/97; the worlds didn't come online until a couple months later.

Feb 10, 2001, 3:27pm

It's not about remembering, but convienence. Yes, I can simply click on the message reference but since you were referring to SPECIFIC things in your reply to my post, you should have quoted what you were specifically replying to.

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Feb 11, 2001, 1:57pm

So delete the parts you're not DIRECTLY responding to.

[View Quote] > No problem, just that the text of the emails was getting a bit long and I
> didn't want to have a jumbo jet sized post if I could help it.
>
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Feb 8, 2001, 11:48pm

Eep - 198174 - Remove

[View Quote] > This post is to vote upon the dismissal of the AWCI Management.
>
> The board of directors has been a source of continuous embarrassment.
>
> The directors have been given many avenues to redeem themselves in the eyes
> of the newsgroup community, and have been given many opportunities to show
> themselves a decent, productive and respectful members thereof.
>
> Thus, it is the wish of the AW community, to put forth a vote to have the
> the current management removed for the foreseeable future.
>
> Votes are to be cast as one of two choices
>
> To have the management remain, please vote as:
> <citizen name - number> -"Stay"
>
> To vote to have them removed, please vote:
> <citizen name - number> - "Remove".
>
> In making your decision, please review recent past performance by these people,
> and use it to make your best judgment on the matter, namely:
>
> 1. Failure to create shareholder value.
> 2. Inability to attract new customers.
> 3. Technical incompetence as demonstrated by recent failures in Eduverse
> and Alphaworld.
> 4. Poor quality products and late delivery of enhancements.
> 5. Unacceptable customer relations and sales support.
> 6. Inadequate response to customer complaints.
> 7. Hiring of unskilled support staff.
>
> As the initiator of this vote, I begin the tally by casting my own, as an
> Active worlds citizen.
>
> Takeover 305600 - Remove.
>
> The voting has begun.
>
> (This is not a joke haha)

Feb 9, 2001, 12:33am

Obviously I'm interested in better management. Kat emailed me about starting a new AWlike program, but we need more programmers (not kids just starting out). Any takers?

[View Quote] > ok that's two of us now, any more?
>
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Feb 9, 2001, 1:36am

Interesting...any screenshots or demo or something to see the progress thus far? I'd be interesting in testing it if you need any help in that area. Also, if you don't already know, I have an AW improvements webpage at http://tnlc.com/eep/aw/improve.html that you may be able to implement into VR United.

[View Quote] > This may not be what you're looking for, but I'm uhh doing something
> that may resemble AW slightly. I'm still developing, of course, but
> I'll be done with the final release by February 14th..
>
> http://www.vrunited.net
>
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Feb 9, 2001, 3:47am

[View Quote] > I vote to stop
> CarolAnn #291871
>
> The word censorship keeps being brought up pertaining to a private company-or a
> representative of one-denying a “guest”, paying or not, the right to spew unrestricted filth
> (not just ideas, information and opinions). Is this censorship or simply restrictions placed
> on all for the good of the whole? Remember this is private enterprise, not government.
> The next time you walk into your local Wal-Mart with your mother or child and someone
> walks by yelling obscenities over having to wait in a long line think about whether or not
> you, or Wal-Mart, has the right to object or remove the offending party. You are a paying
> customer after all..but so is he.

IS he? Did that person just walk into the store or start yelling obscenities while walking out after having bought something? One doesn't become a CUSTOMER until one PAYS for something. I am not a CUSTOMER of AW because I've NEVER paid for a citizenship, but I am an AW USER and AW CITIZEN and, thus, have the RIGHT and PRIVILEGE to post in AW's newsgroups--PERIOD. I am not randomly yelling (typing) obscenities either. There IS a logic behind my flames if you only bothered to take the time to try and figure it out.

> Obviously you cannot filter someone there but you can
> leave or quickly buy some very affective earmuffs so that the offender’s right to spew is
> not compromised. Would you accept his mother’s explanation that many find his
> language colorful and entertaining and that his complaints are valid? There is no law
> against incivility (up to a point) but there is certainly nothing wrong with it. But anyway I
> came to cast my vote, but not before giving it some thought. I recalled that in the 1 line
> email I sent to eep correcting 1 spelling error, as I’ve explained in an earlier post, I
> noticed in his extremely offensive reply (yes, by my standards...want to hear it?) that he
> has also sent a copy to ABUSE at (my isp). Now, why did he do that? Did he want to
> censor me by having my Internet privileges (rights?) revoked? Was it really abuse? I
> realize it was his private e-mail though so I guess I cannot complain about his asking me
> to not e-mail him..which he did not...but to report me for a spelling correction without
> one warning or notice? Why not just block future e-mails from me? Happily they
> apparently disregarded his e-mail because I am still online.

Your one-line email to me about my SINGLE-WORD spelling error was full of condescending overtone and smartassedness. You knew DAMN well you were trying to get a rise out of me and even admitted so in an earlier post of yours about the email, so don't try to come off as being holier than thou and innocent--because you ain't, bitch. I forwarded a copy of your ABUSIVE email to your ISP because the ONLY reason you sent it was to SPECIFICALLY provoke me, and that falls under many ISP's/website's terms of service (TOS) agreements.

> I am just bringing this up for
> those of you who are defending eep’s right to free speech. Hopefully he would do the
> same for you even if you treated him as poorly as he treats some of the “inept” and
> foreign born.

I would because I am strong enough not to hold personal grudges over moral issues like censorship.

> Is this or is this not a forum for all abilities? If there was no one who
> needed his valuable information would he then be needed? Then why does he use the
> term “newbie” as an insult?

Because it's the truth. Someone used to call me newbie all the time in these newsgroups, too, but no one seemed to have any problems with it. <shrug>

> These are just things I have thought about as I’ve read what
> some of the more active and talented members of AW have said. I can’t understand some
> of the ones who are so complacent..and even “reverant” about the way he talks but I do
> agree that a vote might be less fair than a representative of the company deciding the fate
> of any poster. Kind of. CarolAnn

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Feb 9, 2001, 5:52am

[View Quote] > eep-please read again the quote from the e-mail to which you refer...if
> the one line e-mail I sent to you was full of "condescending overtone
> and smartassedness" then it was not an attitude, I copied and pasted
> that spelling and definition right out of an online dictionary. I was
> not trying to get a rise out of you OR provoke you or I would have done
> it right here...read again! I WAS trying to make a point, in private,
> without ridicule. It is the way I do things. You do not know me or you
> would know better. Everyone doesn't do things the way you do. My
> comeback to your vile terms for me was NOT the way I normally do things
> though and I regret it. Kind of. If you would have only asked who I was
> instead of interpreting for yourself who you thought I was, I would not
> have to think about that.

Then perhaps you should have thought about it before emailing me, eh? I believe you used a smiley at the end and you did NOT just post the definition but also a snide remark about my spelling. Don't try to play yourself off as being so innocent, Carol, cuz you ain't, bitch.

> The term *newbie*, although it now has
> negative connotations here, should not be an insult but a stage of
> developement. Can you imagine if all the firsts in our lives were met
> with the same *newbie* scorn? For example....take your honeymoon.......
> I still would like to know what made you refer to me as a newbie? I meet
> them everyday I am in AW and am gratified when I can help one in some
> little way and enjoy the fact that some seek me out later for one reason
> or another. If I begin to feel impatient I certainly don't let them know
> it because that might alienate them from me and from AW...which I'm sure
> happens often enough as it is. Some learn, some don't but at least I
> know I have tried to help in a friendly way. I also find it easy to
> learn some things..and not so easy to learn others and am certainly no
> expert in all things AW..or even most, but whatever small help I can
> give here, and my service to people in my r/l do not mean I don't have a
> life, or whatever else that kind of attitude implies to you-as you so
> strangely suggested was Facter's reason for his service-but it adds to
> it. In my first 2+ years of AW I rarely have felt anything negative in
> the "social" aspects of AW..but coming here and reading some of the
> things I've read make me wonder if it's a "social" atmosphere at all. I
> had no idea these kinds of things went on behind the scenes. I know I
> could have stopped reading here but it was too late when I saw friends
> being denigrated for no good reason. Think about it...if you can be
> angered to the point that you often apparently are by perceived human
> imperfection, and can then show it in the way that you do..can I not be
> just as angered by purposeful infliction of hurting words on another
> person just because you feel they are beneath contempt, and show it the
> way I do?

You can be whatever you want, little girl. I'm not stopping you. But if you choose to fuck with me, prepare to be fucked with back. Dig? If you can't stand the heat, get the FUCK out of the kitchen...and take your low self-esteem with you.

> [Once, by way of introducing myself to him, I corrected his spelling of
> he word hypocrite (his spelling was hipocrit) because I couldn't believe
> the irony of it.(eep replies to dennis13: " So why did you then post in
> HTML, idiot? Don't be such a
> fucking hipocrit.") I did this in private e-mail because 1. it was
> certainly off-topic and 2.I
> was not trying to publicly ridicule him, although I'm sure he doesn't
> understand the concept. I will admit though I had a need to show him he
> was not infallible. He came back with the vilest, filthiest names for me
> that I could imagine]
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Feb 9, 2001, 9:19am

[View Quote] > I did think about it..and did what I did. Snide remark? What was it?

I don't remember it specifically since your email has long since been deleted, but I DO remember I didn't like your tone; hence why I responded the way I did.

> There was none. And that smirk? That was a smiley face...as in
> "smile".

Duh, I never called it a smirk. Learn to read.

> I feel no heat, eep, I am not the fearful type...these are only
> words after all. It is the
> cutting, hurtful words you so generously dole out to everyone else I
> take exception to. Do
> your worst, it only helps bring out your true colors...as if they don't
> already show enough.
> But what's this thing with everyone having low self-esteem if they speak
> up to you? I think
> the opposite might be more accurate.

Uh, your low self-esteem isn't evident in speaking up to me but by the long, drawn out explanation you gave below. Try to keep up and pay attention to where replies are in the text. This is yet another example of why you are a newbie--you don't know how to increment-quote, your message formatting is all fucked, and you're generally incompetent.

> I can understand people respecting
> your knowledge but
> deferring to your demeanor has to be the act of a coward. I could one on
> one with you all
> day and only be energized by what I know is right but this of course is
> not the place for that
> so buh-bye.

Indeed. Suck filter, snatch.

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Feb 9, 2001, 2:16pm

Hi, this is a friendly service announcement.

"which worth to read" = "which is worth reading" or simply "worth reading"

and "actually" should be before "has"

We now return you to your regularly scheduled posting...

[View Quote] > Not to mention that _sometimes_ Eep has actually something to say which worth to read.

Feb 10, 2001, 12:45am

First phase? Of what? Huh?

[View Quote] > Duly noted.
>
> P.S.:That brings us back to the first phase isn't it?
>
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Feb 10, 2001, 1:12am

Uh, what was that for?

[View Quote] > Idiot.
>
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Feb 10, 2001, 1:38pm

Eh, I have the twit filtered. Regardless, SW Chris insulted me for no reason while I tend to give the reason(s) why I'm insulting someone. If you're going to flame, at least have the decency to explain why. If people expect me to tone things down, they will have to as well; it works both ways...

[View Quote] > Uh, jbell, I know you're trying to goad eep. I'm sure he realizes it,
> but its annoying nonetheles. Cut it out. :P
>
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Feb 10, 2001, 1:07am

Wouldn't something from last week be last week's news?

[View Quote] > Plus, I hardly think this'll effect us a week from now, it'll be yesterday's
> news.

Feb 10, 2001, 6:15pm

Used to be Lucrezia; will probably now be Facter; hopefully it's no one since censorship isn't the way.

[View Quote] > Ok, so that charter thingy says that there's a moderator. I've heard that
> there was one before, but that there was no such person anymore. So who's
> the moderator?

Feb 15, 2001, 3:53am

Upgraded the drivers perhaps? I heard the newer Detonator drivers increase performance but I haven't tried them (I still use the Guillemot 3D Prophet 5.22 drivers).

[View Quote] > Primary card is Hercules Prophet II MX 32mb. Haven't tried it on TNT2 cards
> yet though. I really have no explaination except AW3.0 ran at around 5
> frames and 3.1 now runs at 10-15 frames. Haven't OCed the card any more
> since 3.0 either.
>
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Feb 16, 2001, 3:43am

"greyed out" means the field isn't active to edit, Andras...

[View Quote] > Add your cit# to the Options/World/Rights/SpecialCommand field
>
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Feb 17, 2001, 12:53am

Just post a link next time, Agent...

[View Quote] > This is for those who don't check too often...

Feb 17, 2001, 9:06am

http://www.vios.com/

Feb 18, 2001, 3:16am

Vios claims to have building too, which is hardly a web browser. At any rate, it's STILL competition for AW...

[View Quote] > I agree with holistic, it just looks like a fancy web browser. AWCI is only
> 3-4 years behind mainstream games now anyway. Give us T&L and physics and a
> few more object manipulation controls (carrying, sequential commands like
> "move here, rotate this far, move there, change color, turn around, move
> back over there") and mappable controls and all will be good. Oh yeah, X and
> Z axis static rotation too.
>
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Feb 19, 2001, 12:20am

Dozen? I recall only one, currently: VR United. Know of any others?

[View Quote] > Yes, far more competition than the dozen 3d chat/building programs that AW
> users are vainly attempting to develop at any given time.
>
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Feb 18, 2001, 3:20am

Er, well, the Voodoo Banshee chip is old and outdated, Fyrene. You really should consider upgrading if you want to take advantage of AW's newer features (multiple lights, mipmapping, etc.--and Myrth tells me Roland's considering upping the max vis limit to 200m for AW 3.2 so to get all those multiple lights AND high vis yer gonna need a powerful 3D chip and system). Consider a GeForce 256 or GeForce 2-based card.

[View Quote] > Saw your posting in the beta ng. I had that prob and Roland came into my
> world so we could figure it out. Textures I could see fine in 2.2 and 3.0, I
> couldnt see in 3.1. Not all textures were affected. If I turned mipmap off
> I could see all the textures, but not with that smooth look mipmap does to
> it. Also, found that if the textures were not 128x128 or 256x256 or 512x512
> then I couldnt see the texture in 3.1 Once I resized the textures to those
> dimensions, then I could see them in 3.1
>
> I still dont understand why I could see the textures that were not those
> dimensions in 3.0 but not 3.1 now. My vid card is 3D Blaster Banshee PCI
> 16meg. Its a perfectly good card, updated drivers, and seems a shame I have
> to change it cause of how it affects AW. Ah well.

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