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Jul 7, 2002, 10:06am

actually its not strictly sexist ... its discriminatory until proven that
the discrimination is not positive. Sexist is a negative discrimination
based on sex.

The separation of male from female may serve a function ... for example a
womens self help group for recovery from rape, domestic violence or assault,
for example, may prohibit the entry of men because their presence may
inhibit the counselling of the victims ... I don't think anyone would deny
women the right to "sisterhood" under such circumstances. I have been a part
of a women's cancer support group and I've also seen men's cancer support
groups ... would anyone say that these groups have no right to seperate
existance???

Likewise what if some women wanted to discuss issues of a female nature and
accept other females from the public then how would they do this if they
made it invitation only? Where exactly is the front door so to speak? The
world list? A webpage? A newspaper ad? where exactly?

There are still hundreds of men only clubs in the world ... and while they
seem to be declining, their right to exist should still be recognised if we
wish to uphold the belief that people have the right to chose with whom they
wish to associate

Glitter


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Jul 7, 2002, 10:06am

Didnt you ever see Tootsie? :-)

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Jul 7, 2002, 12:52pm

You really should quit before you start sounding more ignorant than you
already have said. I mean, these people give you a luxury most people die to
have, and you're calling them dumb, broke, and totally devoid of doing
calculus, basically.

I did my research on truck drivers, garbage people, and they're just as good
as blue-collar profession as any other. These people, unlike you Dion, are
not obsessed with money, and that's perfectly legal. Some have families they
want to go home to early, some like to travel, they're perfectly educated.
Many have even gone to college, almost all of them graduated high school or
have GEDs. So basically, they're just as smart as you are, and yet, they're
getting paid and you aren't. Sounds smart to me.

If you ever drove too, you know driving is a tougher job than it looks. I
can barely drive a car without running into a telephone pole every day, who
knows how truckers do it with their enormous load and horrible blind spots.

And trust me, government jobs are not the most frugal in the world. lol.
They get paid well for what they do, even if you consider it very little. I
couldn't see why more moms, especially, wouldn't want a job like that to
care for their kids. While they're sleeping, she does the trash (most moms
do anyways), and she's home the rest of the day to take care of them. Wise,
really.

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Jul 7, 2002, 6:45pm

Waste manage could be garbage truck driver (but it's also a few other
things), just like inventory associate is a shelf stocker. They like fancy
titles I guess =P

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Jul 8, 2002, 12:03am

Whoa.

Did I just miss something, or did Nornny actually STAND UP FOR
SOMETHING?! Let me check that again...

No reneging... no counters... no smileys...

Good Lord... He might actually form some solid opinions yet! ;)

[View Quote] > You really should quit before you start sounding more ignorant than you
> already have said. I mean, these people give you a luxury most people die to
> have, and you're calling them dumb, broke, and totally devoid of doing
> calculus, basically.
>
> I did my research on truck drivers, garbage people, and they're just as good
> as blue-collar profession as any other. These people, unlike you Dion, are
> not obsessed with money, and that's perfectly legal. Some have families they
> want to go home to early, some like to travel, they're perfectly educated.
> Many have even gone to college, almost all of them graduated high school or
> have GEDs. So basically, they're just as smart as you are, and yet, they're
> getting paid and you aren't. Sounds smart to me.
>
> If you ever drove too, you know driving is a tougher job than it looks. I
> can barely drive a car without running into a telephone pole every day, who
> knows how truckers do it with their enormous load and horrible blind spots.
>
> And trust me, government jobs are not the most frugal in the world. lol.
> They get paid well for what they do, even if you consider it very little. I
> couldn't see why more moms, especially, wouldn't want a job like that to
> care for their kids. While they're sleeping, she does the trash (most moms
> do anyways), and she's home the rest of the day to take care of them. Wise,
> really.
>
> --
> From the Newbie's Guide to the AW NG:
>
> "Nornny11 - The original wishy-washy man, this one can actually insult you
> and compliment you in the same breath, and in the end say absolutely
> nothing! What a talent!"
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Jul 8, 2002, 11:20am

Was their default av female? *grins*

It's true, reverse discrimination is not pretty. But think of it as a club
and it is easier to swallow. It really isn't the first world with limits
set, usually they are based on age and whether you are open minded or not.
As a community we can choose to ignore them, or we can set up a petition to
dis-allow them....but isn't that a form of discrimination itself?

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Jul 8, 2002, 1:50pm

Hmm I forgot to check that out, maybe I have to go again LOL
Yes they can keep their club, I do not care. It is just the common attitude
that if a man says something "bad" about a woman or a women is not
"approved" for something, the hell breakes out. All kind of ombudsmen and
feminist attack you and make sure you feel you are the most guilty person on
earth. Then again it seems to be ok if the "discrimination" is towards men;
the attitude is like well try to live with it, no big deal.
In our TV we had 2 commercials, one was a paint commercial, where a
"biglunged" women dressed in a top was presenting paint, the other was a
furniture commercial where furnitures was presented by the former Miss
Finland in a bikini. Both commercials were forbidden because they was
considred sexcist or degrading of women.Both the women acting in these
commercial was there volentary and got paid for it ans were upset about the
decission to ban their commercials. At the same time in another paint
commercial one top athletic (male) was presenting the paint topless and the
camera zoomed in on his butt. Nobody has considered this sexcistic. So I
cannot help wondering why sexy women on TV are "bad" but sexy males are
totally ok.
I might just for the fun of it, not that I stand for it, found a male world
where women are not allowed, just to see how long it is allowed to excist
;-)

Drac
sheridan <motleymouse at worldnet.att.net> kirjoitti
viestissä:3d2991a4 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Was their default av female? *grins*
>
> It's true, reverse discrimination is not pretty. But think of it as a
club
> and it is easier to swallow. It really isn't the first world with limits
> set, usually they are based on age and whether you are open minded or not.
> As a community we can choose to ignore them, or we can set up a petition
to
> dis-allow them....but isn't that a form of discrimination itself?
>
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Jul 8, 2002, 4:19pm

What's wrong about that? I put that too sometimes - changing


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Jul 9, 2002, 5:52am

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limited.
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Jul 10, 2002, 12:19am

<in a brittish accent>
I prefer the term, "romantically disinclined".

SW Chris
Not me, you idiot! Him! --Capt. Kirk

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Jul 11, 2002, 6:50am

Well, they DO have the right to do what they want with their worlds....but
that is a little ridiculous. All you can do is shrug and walk away :o(
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