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Sep 1, 2001, 12:41am

Then why are you still here?

[View Quote] > Yes, and I don't care to continue using active worlds either.
>
> http://members.aol.com/chessmusic/gcn/gcnmusic.htm
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Goober King
Proof that Goobers ARE as dumb as they look.
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Sep 1, 2001, 12:47am

LOL figure it out... he has been proven wrong again and he cant let it
appear as if he is beaten, so he will continue to argue that black is white
until we all just give up and let him suffer his delusions in peace...... i
say lets do it NOW before we all need the valium

Flagg said it best <This will be my last post on this issue > lets
follow suit


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Sep 1, 2001, 2:33am

I will reply, and since there was a lot of inaccurate statements, I wanted
to clarify them.

Flagg is not making an accurate run down of the situation at hand. I don't
think it is deliberate, and I don't care if it is, but I do want the truth
to be out so I responded with the areas I felt needed clarification and
correction.

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Sep 1, 2001, 2:35am

Nothing to prove, this is decision, does Active Worlds want to make money?
then they have to make a service as well as a product that SELLS!!!

Charging 20 for a citizen and then giving one for free with a purchase of a
world doesn't sell. I could have had a world with citizen.

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Sep 1, 2001, 2:42am

My citizenship hasn't run out, and Active Worlds hasn't refunded me
anything. So this is how I plan on spending my "dying days" on Active
Worlds.

I want you guys to know what has happened. The more people you sucker in
the more money Active Worlds gets to develop the program, so I can
understand why you are not going to take the position I am.

I have nothing to lose, I bought no world. I can tell the truth and state
ways the service could be run more fairly.

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Sep 1, 2001, 4:30am

No, you can only state what *you* believe to be the way things should be
run. And from the looks of things, that belief boils down to "Newcomers
to AW are inherently stupid and need to be told every single detail of
how the business operates before becoming a full-fledged citizen of AW."
Once again, as numerous people have previously stated, that's why
there's a website.

As Flagg has stated in another post, he already offered to replace one
of the free citships with yours, and you essentially ignored it. And I
think it's plain to everyone else here that you do *not* have everyone
else's interest at heart and are only here to cause trouble. So, for
your sake more than ours, I suggest you find more productive ways to
spend your final days here in AW. We've heard all your arguments, and
you've heard ours, so let's end this, shall we?

[View Quote] > My citizenship hasn't run out, and Active Worlds hasn't refunded me
> anything. So this is how I plan on spending my "dying days" on Active
> Worlds.
>
> I want you guys to know what has happened. The more people you sucker in
> the more money Active Worlds gets to develop the program, so I can
> understand why you are not going to take the position I am.
>
> I have nothing to lose, I bought no world. I can tell the truth and state
> ways the service could be run more fairly.
>
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Goober King
At least we'll have one less idiot to deal with...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Sep 1, 2001, 5:57am

give it a rest flagg has already proved your just
trying to get attention they offered to refund you
and you refused so shut up and im not so sure aw
would be too unhappy to see YOU leave :P

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Sep 1, 2001, 6:00am

how does something FREE have a 20 dollar value LOL
ooh i ahve a free watch it has a million dollar
value cause i think i should be refunded that much
cause i already have a watch LOL

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Sep 1, 2001, 6:03am

> Charging 20 for a citizen and then giving one for free with a purchase of a
> world doesn't sell. I could have had a world with citizen.
so? they do this to sell the worlds more this way
you can have more bots are a cit to use as a
"privilege cit" so everything in the world is
built under the same person it was not first given
out to be used as a normal cit... i dont see how a
tourist would be able to run a well run world
without being a cit first?

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Sep 1, 2001, 6:04am

hmm can you explain what he lied about a little
further? just saying he lied makes you look like
an even bigger idiot

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Sep 1, 2001, 9:16am

I would agree, the ability to run a well made room is not only subjective
but irrelevant to the rights of a user of Active Worlds to know before they
purchase a citizenship at register now, that citizenships are also provided
with worlds. This would have saved money in the long run. Where does the
extra $20 go to that could have been applied towards the world with citizen?
RIGHT TO ACTIVEWORLDS

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Sep 1, 2001, 9:17am

I didn't say he lied, I said he was inaccurate like your reading is.

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Sep 1, 2001, 9:21am

Activeworlds charged me $20 for a citizenship. If you want to call that
something free without value, go ahead. Again, that is inaccurate.

Can't anybody else see the logic in this?

Plan A: $80 for a world with citizenship
Plan B: Pay $20 for citizenship, then later pay $80 for a world and a free
second citizenship you don't need making a total of $100 ($80+$20)

$100 or $80? I would rather go with $80, Plan A

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Sep 1, 2001, 9:25am

As Flagg has stated in another post, he already offered to replace one
of the free citships with yours, and you essentially ignored it.

I never did such a thing. I am here now because no one refunded the money I
paid. If it was refunded I would have bought a world and be building instead
of bickering with you guys about somethingt that seems obvious:

Can't anybody else see the logic in this?

Plan A: $80 for a world with citizenship
Plan B: Pay $20 for citizenship, then later pay $80 for a world and a free
second citizenship you don't need making a total of $100 ($80+$20)

$100 or $80? I would rather go with $80, Plan A


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Sep 1, 2001, 9:26am

"they offered to refund you and you refused so shut up"

I never did such a thing. I am here now because no one refunded the money I
paid. If it was refunded I would have bought a world and be building instead
of bickering with you guys about somethingt that seems obvious:

Can't anybody else see the logic in this?

Plan A: $80 for a world with citizenship
Plan B: Pay $20 for citizenship, then later pay $80 for a world and a free
second citizenship you don't need making a total of $100 ($80+$20)

$100 or $80? I would rather go with $80, Plan A

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Sep 1, 2001, 10:24am

stupid gnome! you've misinterpreted URL for a link to a webpage... a URL is
just an adress of something on a network, that's the URL of an NG post, not
a HTML webpage!

KAH

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Sep 1, 2001, 10:26am

THERE IS NO Fing LOGIC IN IT!!!! IF YOU CAN'T SEE THAT, THEN SHUT THE F UP!

KAH

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Sep 1, 2001, 11:24am

Well laddy da! There IS NO Plan A and Plan B. You get the cit. Too bad.
AWCOM scammed you in such a horrible way, but they're not going to change it
for you. Apparently, they don't want to make "money" the way you do, so let
them go on scamming the entire AW uniserver and continue concentrating on
lightening that big head of yours. I didn't pay 20 bucks to read this crap,
you don't see me looking for a refund.

Nornny

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Sep 1, 2001, 3:42pm

anyone know how long it'll take before they bann this idiot from the
newsgroup?
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Sep 1, 2001, 4:07pm

Fine, if you don't want to end this, I will. This will be my last post
on this subject, and I think everyone else should follow suit and let
this man "die" in peace. But before I go, I will leave you with this:

If you think they were just going to fork over the money you gave them,
then you've got another thing coming. What Flagg was planning to do was
include the cost of your current citship with that of the world, which
would mean you would pay $80 for a world and it would automatically
renew your current citship.

If you got your citship, and then decided to buy a world months later,
you can't expect them to give you your money back when you've already
used your citship for several months. Having them refund your money
would mean that you essentially got a citship for those months for free.
That would be like buying some batteries for your radio, then after
using them for a few months, finding out they sell a radio that comes
with batteries, so you expect them to give you the money back for the
batteries you already used if you were to buy the other radio. Sorry,
jefe, the real world doesn't work that way.

[View Quote] > As Flagg has stated in another post, he already offered to replace one
> of the free citships with yours, and you essentially ignored it.
>
> I never did such a thing. I am here now because no one refunded the money I
> paid. If it was refunded I would have bought a world and be building instead
> of bickering with you guys about somethingt that seems obvious:
>
> Can't anybody else see the logic in this?
>
> Plan A: $80 for a world with citizenship
> Plan B: Pay $20 for citizenship, then later pay $80 for a world and a free
> second citizenship you don't need making a total of $100 ($80+$20)
>
> $100 or $80? I would rather go with $80, Plan A
>
>
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Goober King
Rest in peace... Lord knows we could use some around here...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Sep 1, 2001, 5:04pm

Ah someone in the know said , you can't ban someone for being a fucking
idiot. Unless he gets really offencive... he can keep ranting on like this.
SO just ignore him. Or even better filter, since I've never seen him say
ANYTHING worth while.

Sep 1, 2001, 6:07pm

There is no extra 20 dollars the citizens are being thrown in at a loss to
active worlds because they're free. The term "Their loss is your gain" does
not apply here.

Derek, I suggest you follow my suit and say that your next post will be the
last on this issue. :) We don't care is working, but it's annoying the
heck out of the other posters here. So... this will be my last post on
this issue. And we don't care about your delusions of corporate conspiracy,
marcus. Suffer in peace.

SW Chris

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Sep 1, 2001, 7:12pm

"AWCOM scammed you in such a horrible way, but they're not going to change
it
for you. Apparently, they don't want to make "money" the way you do, so let
them go on scamming the entire AW uniserver..."

I concur fully


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Sep 1, 2001, 7:14pm

Whatever it was, it didn't send me somewhere I could make use of. Please
send something that ends in ".htm" or ".asp"

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Sep 1, 2001, 7:19pm

"What Flagg was planning to do was include the cost of your current citship
with that of the world, which would mean you would pay $80 for a world and
it would automatically
renew your current citship."

If I paid $20 and the world costs $80, then the difference is $60 and that
is WHAT I WILL PAY. I will not pay $100 for a citzenship and world. If I
want to renew, then I will pay the $20 when the year comes up which will
come to $100 and that year has not come up yet. I have no $80 world
including citizenship, so I see no reason at the moment to send a check for
$60 to Activeworlds.

If they are going to sell me a world for $80 including citizenship and use
$20 I already paid, let's see them do it!!! this is just talk, let's see
them actually do it then!!

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Sep 1, 2001, 7:23pm

When you register for a citizenship you pay $20.

I am being told if I want a world I have to pay $80.

That's 100$

Do the math, there is $20 that I spent I could have put towards a world with
citizenship.
Active Worlds has not to this date given me a world to setup or charged me
$60 which would have been the difference for the purchase of the smallest
world.


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Sep 1, 2001, 7:40pm

"If you got your citship, and then decided to buy a world months later...."

Bzzzzz, WRONG!!! My citizenship runs out at the end of december. It was in
Jan (about 2-3 weeks after acquiring my citizenship)that I wanted to
switchover to a world cause that is when I found out Active Worlds gives at
least one citizenship with the purcahse of a world.

I haven't used my citizenship for building like I would have if I had a
world. That is what I am trying to tell you. I stopped building in March.
In april I feel I still used the services to show friends of mine what I
built, but now the world I built it in is gone. If I had my own world like I
requested in Jan and did the switchover, I would still have it. At least I
have Xelagot backup of the build and if the world comes back I can have the
owner rebuild it for me hopefully.

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Sep 1, 2001, 7:47pm

sorry guys, but I can't resist replying to stupid gnomes, that's just how I
am...

Marcus, what you didn't understand was that YOU'D SAVED YOUR 20 BUCKS IF
YOU'D TAKEN THEIR OFFER!!!! because then your cit would've been renewed, and
would be renewed with your world every year (I think) anyway, so you'dve
saved a lotta money... and honestly, asking for a $50 discount out of
nowhere, what did you expect?

KAH

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Sep 1, 2001, 7:52pm

I never asked for a $50 discount, do the math:

$80 (world with citizenship)
-$20 citizenship (already paid)
______________________________
$60 remaining balance


If there is any sign of discount, it is $20 which I already gave before even
using it. No one can be a citizen unless they pay upfront.

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Sep 1, 2001, 9:03pm

you did, Flagg told the entire community... oh well, just don't accept that
you're wrong...

KAH

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