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Value of a cit (Community)
Value of a cit // Community
Aug 31, 2001, 4:56am
I did my homework, I found out they charge for a world without informing the
tourist when they register for a citizenship at the "register now" button
that they could get a citizenship with the purchase of a world.
I haven't bought a world yet, so you can't say I didn't do my homework
regarding buying a world.
[View Quote]"the derek" <ImTheDerek at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3B8F20F3.FF9387E3 at yahoo.com...
> ... on a past post you said you DID your research?
> now you said you didnt im about 2 dumbass posts
> away from totally filtering you
>
> m a r c u s wrote:
also I
world.
run.
Worlds.
been
is
fact:
don't
when it
for
until it
people
as
once
LEGAL
of
the
I
to
who
flamers,
got
responding
wasn't
might
know
not
this
website
any
check
before
other
you
Otherwise,
months.
DO
giving
product
some
message
this
Thanks.
went
with
analogy
out I
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Aug 31, 2001, 9:45am
I try all i can to keep up but sooner or later they change to an
un-recognized name and they go bye bye.. Ohhhh Well..... I guess
that's what happenes when you change enough times that i can't keep
track i i don't know if it's friend or foe it's GONE!!!
"sw comit" <sam64 at jps.net> wrote in
news:3b8f0391 at server1.Activeworlds.com:
> Yea I have no tolerance for name changers, I just take em off my
> contact list the first time they do it.
>
[View Quote]> "jfk2 builder" <jfk2 at jfkmusic.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns910CA45E2735Bjfk2jfkmusiccom at 166.90.181.12...
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Aug 31, 2001, 11:19am
heh, I really hate when ppl I know do name changes! suddently I get a
telegram from someone I haven't got the faintest clue who it is. Since I
registered a year ago, I haven't done any name changes (except joke changes
for aprox 30 seconds a few times)...
KAH
[View Quote]"jfk2 builder" <jfk2 at jfkmusic.com> wrote in message
news:Xns910E4C886FCAjfk2jfkmusiccom at 166.90.181.12...
> I try all i can to keep up but sooner or later they change to an
> un-recognized name and they go bye bye.. Ohhhh Well..... I guess
> that's what happenes when you change enough times that i can't keep
> track i i don't know if it's friend or foe it's GONE!!!
>
>
> "sw comit" <sam64 at jps.net> wrote in
> news:3b8f0391 at server1.Activeworlds.com:
>
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Aug 31, 2001, 1:10pm
M a r c u s,
I think I understand your "premise" of the situation. Yes, it would have
been nice if AW could have designed the "Renew" section of the browser
to give you a choice of buying just a citizenship or a world that
includes one or more citizenships. However, it is their program and they
did not. If you would like this to be changed, I suggest you contact
either Rick (also known as E N Z O) and/or JP. In my opinion, I don't
think many tourists want to buy their own world when they first
register, and that is why AWC hasn't included that option. Most new
citizens I have met usually build in other worlds and try to "get the
hang of" building before they go off and even think of purchasing their
own world (or they meet a friend that has their own world and build
there).
Like others have mentioned, if you have looked at all of the pages on
AWC's Web site, you would have come across the Personal World Server
page (located at https://www.activeworlds.com/ssl/buyworld/) and found
out that when you purchase worlds of a certain size, you *do* get a
certain amount of free citizenships. In my opinion, AWC isn't "hiding"
this information anywhere or trying to confuse the consumer. AWC even
has a few bingo worlds in which they give prizes away for free. I have
won both an increase in my bot limit and a free world on another
citizenship of mine in the bingo worlds. Ever think that you could you
could win a free citizenship (or a world for a few months) in a bingo
world and that would "counteract" the $20 you keep whining about?
Flagg already posted a response here in the newsgroup in which he
stated: "The free citizens that come with your world are intended for
you to give to friends and family so that they can see your cool new
world." I fail to see why you keep bringing the issue up over and over
here in this newsgroup. If you dislike AWC's pricing schemes so much,
why don't you either try and create your own program and your own
pricing schemes or just leave AW altogether?
Builderz
Stuff-X - Bot & World Hosting Services
http://aw.stuff-x.com/
PGP Key ID: 0xAC0E7073 (for non-commercial use)
[View Quote]m a r c u s wrote:
>
> Active Worlds is not honest and upfront about their costs. People end up
> paying more for less in the end if they continue. This is how: I was a
> tourist and all I saw was a register feature for citizenship, after becoming
> a citizen I found out buying a world would give a citizenship for free. $20
> is nothing when you address one person and for one year, but counting others
> and adding on years, it accumulates to a lot.
>
> This is similar to Juno giving out free citizenships. If you had known you
> would have switched isp's also possibly, but now that they got your your
> money they won't credit you $20 on a purchase of a world. STINGY STINGY
> Active Worlds. Well, right now you got $20 of my money, you could have had
> at least $80 if you played your cards right. I probably would have upsized
> the world and paide close to $200. They banked on me paying them $80, when
> they should have credited me $20 on the purchase of a world, charged me $60,
> and then watch me establish my world where I would need to buy more from
> them when I wanted to expand.
>
> Right now I have no world, I haven't established anything to want to pay
> more to Inactive Worlds, and I can walk away $60 richer than if I had.
>
> "wing" <bathgate at prodigy.net> wrote in message
> news:3b888918 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> paying because of our choice of ISP? What about the free
> face and wave and verbally assault cits, if not myself
> non-paying cits don't.
> (Wing) to expiration earlier today. Perhaps when things change
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Aug 31, 2001, 2:08pm
You know, you can have that citizenship appended onto your current one to
save you a resubscription charge...
SW Chris
[View Quote]"m a r c u s" <i_have_a_site at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3b8f343e$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I do think I am right, I wouldn't be spending now 8 months trying to
inform
> people of this if I thought I was wrong.
>
> I signed up in December and found out in January that worlds come with a
> citizenship that I don't need. I would have paid the extra $60 for a
world,
> and then have established myself in the AW community, then perhaps
expanded
> my world giving Active Worlds more money. If Active Worlds doesn't care
> about saving the citizen money, then I don't care about Active Worlds.
They
> could have had a sale lost out by not informing the person within the
> program they programmed which has a register button which would have
> informed the tourist they could also get a world which would include a
> citizenship.
>
> That's all I am asking, if I can type it a bajillion times since January,
I
> am sure they can type it just once for the new tourists.
>
>
> "the derek" <ImTheDerek at yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3B8F220A.6F838CAC at yahoo.com...
your
bought
am
> $20.
> have
> care
and
> add
have
> the
> NEED!!
> should
> he/she
> point
you
> can
> the
> finding
> claim
that
> this
> dive
> supposed
> fraudulent,
> you
> you
> fact:
> don't
> world,
> when it
gave
> for
come
> with
over
> again.
> until it
> people I
for
> as
the
> once they
> LEGAL
> before
> of
in
> the
> teachers
but
> I
least
> then,
world
continued
> to
> Worlds
> who
> flamers,
got
> the
to
> (in
response
> if
> someone
> BRAIN!!!
> just
> give a
> flagg:::.
know
> what
> "please
didn't
> want
> you
> info
all
citizenships,
> buying
want
> to
> don't
> research
It
but
to
the
could
>
>
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Aug 31, 2001, 2:12pm
Oh here we go again... Around and around we go... We don't care.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"m a r c u s" <i_have_a_site at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3b8f34a7$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I am not milking you, if you respond, so will I.
>
> "sw chris" <chrisw10 at nckcn.com> wrote in message
> news:3b8ef41b at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> also
want.
> world.
> run.
has
> is
Marcus,
> don't
> when
gave
come
over
> until
for
the
> once
> LEGAL
> of
in
but
> I
least
world
continued
> who
> got
> responding
not
YOUR
> might
REALLY
> not
for
is
> check
> before
message
y
> ou
your
> DO
> giving
> message
> Thanks.
> went
came
> out
>
>
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Aug 31, 2001, 2:13pm
Correction: 1 dumbass post.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"m a r c u s" <i_have_a_site at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3b8f3538$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I did my homework, I found out they charge for a world without informing
the
> tourist when they register for a citizenship at the "register now" button
> that they could get a citizenship with the purchase of a world.
>
> I haven't bought a world yet, so you can't say I didn't do my homework
> regarding buying a world.
>
> "the derek" <ImTheDerek at yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3B8F20F3.FF9387E3 at yahoo.com...
> also I
want.
> world.
> run.
> Worlds.
has
> been
> is
Marcus,
> fact:
> don't
> when it
gave
> for
come
over
> until it
> people
for
> as
the
> once
> LEGAL
> of
in
> the
but
> I
least
world
continued
> to
> who
> flamers,
> got
> responding
not
YOUR
> wasn't
> might
REALLY
> know
> not
for
> this
> website
is
> any
> check
> before
message
> other
> you
> Otherwise,
your
> months.
> DO
> giving
> product
> some
> message
> this
> Thanks.
> went
came
> with
> analogy
> out I
>
>
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Aug 31, 2001, 2:15pm
what you forget is that it is a gift. normally i
wouldnt think a tourist would be able to build a
very good world before being a cit first. you used
to actually HAVE to BE a cit and yet they still
gave free cits... cause it was a gift it wasnt
meant to be the first citizenship. if they do put
any info on the browser it would have to be in the
random immigration officer messages not the
register now button
[View Quote]m a r c u s wrote:
>
> I do think I am right, I wouldn't be spending now 8 months trying to inform
> people of this if I thought I was wrong.
>
> I signed up in December and found out in January that worlds come with a
> citizenship that I don't need. I would have paid the extra $60 for a world,
> and then have established myself in the AW community, then perhaps expanded
> my world giving Active Worlds more money. If Active Worlds doesn't care
> about saving the citizen money, then I don't care about Active Worlds. They
> could have had a sale lost out by not informing the person within the
> program they programmed which has a register button which would have
> informed the tourist they could also get a world which would include a
> citizenship.
>
> That's all I am asking, if I can type it a bajillion times since January, I
> am sure they can type it just once for the new tourists.
>
> "the derek" <ImTheDerek at yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3B8F220A.6F838CAC at yahoo.com...
> $20.
> have
> care
> add
> the
> NEED!!
> should
> he/she
> point
> can
> the
> finding
> claim
> this
> dive
> supposed
> fraudulent,
> you
> you
> fact:
> don't
> world,
> when it
> for
> with
> again.
> until it
> people I
> as
> once they
> LEGAL
> before
> of
> the
> teachers
> I
> then,
> to
> Worlds
> who
> flamers,
> the
> (in
> if
> someone
> BRAIN!!!
> just
> give a
> flagg:::.
> what
> "please
> want
> you
> info
> buying
> to
> don't
> research
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Aug 31, 2001, 3:47pm
There is no reference to a url in which you mention Flagg. I don't know
what to make out of an intent unless I see a page that says "your
citizenship to the world is not intended for you but for you to give to a
friend". You need to show me a url that makes this kind of intent or Flagg
more accurately since he is the one who asserted.
I am not talking about renewing, I am talking about openly disclosing the
terms of purchase on a citizenship in which they inform a tourist which
click "register now" in the program that they do have and that they did make
(I am not making this up)that a world also comes with a citizenship. THEY
DO DO THIS, this is what they do with the register button, and I am saying
they should complete the "register now" button to let the person know.
It should be in one location, and they CHOSE, not me, BUT ACTIVE WORLDS
CHOSE, to make it so you clicked the register now button.
I DIDN'T CHOOSE IT, ACTIVE WORLDS DID!!! They made the button and why don't
they put the information when you register there.
[View Quote]"builderz" <sawran at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3B8FA6C1.6B477FAB at yahoo.com...
> M a r c u s,
>
> I think I understand your "premise" of the situation. Yes, it would have
> been nice if AW could have designed the "Renew" section of the browser
> to give you a choice of buying just a citizenship or a world that
> includes one or more citizenships. However, it is their program and they
> did not. If you would like this to be changed, I suggest you contact
> either Rick (also known as E N Z O) and/or JP. In my opinion, I don't
> think many tourists want to buy their own world when they first
> register, and that is why AWC hasn't included that option. Most new
> citizens I have met usually build in other worlds and try to "get the
> hang of" building before they go off and even think of purchasing their
> own world (or they meet a friend that has their own world and build
> there).
>
> Like others have mentioned, if you have looked at all of the pages on
> AWC's Web site, you would have come across the Personal World Server
> page (located at https://www.activeworlds.com/ssl/buyworld/) and found
> out that when you purchase worlds of a certain size, you *do* get a
> certain amount of free citizenships. In my opinion, AWC isn't "hiding"
> this information anywhere or trying to confuse the consumer. AWC even
> has a few bingo worlds in which they give prizes away for free. I have
> won both an increase in my bot limit and a free world on another
> citizenship of mine in the bingo worlds. Ever think that you could you
> could win a free citizenship (or a world for a few months) in a bingo
> world and that would "counteract" the $20 you keep whining about?
>
> Flagg already posted a response here in the newsgroup in which he
> stated: "The free citizens that come with your world are intended for
> you to give to friends and family so that they can see your cool new
> world." I fail to see why you keep bringing the issue up over and over
> here in this newsgroup. If you dislike AWC's pricing schemes so much,
> why don't you either try and create your own program and your own
> pricing schemes or just leave AW altogether?
>
> Builderz
> Stuff-X - Bot & World Hosting Services
> http://aw.stuff-x.com/
> PGP Key ID: 0xAC0E7073 (for non-commercial use)
>
> m a r c u s wrote:
up
becoming
$20
others
you
had
upsized
when
$60,
into
my
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Aug 31, 2001, 3:51pm
I am sure I can do a lot of things, but when I offered to pay $60 for a
world and they could use the $20 I already paid for a citizenship they
didn't accept they. They wanted $100 total from me, when I would have paid
them eventually 200 for a world after developing it a couple years. Maybe
even more money would have been given to them by me, I don't know.
I like the program, but I don't like how they operate. It reminds me of car
salesman tactics just to squeeze more money out of us and I ain't getting
squeezed.
[View Quote]"sw chris" <chrisw10 at nckcn.com> wrote in message
news:3b8fb666 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> You know, you can have that citizenship appended onto your current one to
> save you a resubscription charge...
>
> SW Chris
>
> "m a r c u s" <i_have_a_site at yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3b8f343e$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> inform
> world,
> expanded
> They
January,
> I
> your
> bought
I
> am
would
don't
> and
> have
a
buyer
to
> you
there
You
> that
you
Because
maybe
stating
the
> gave
> come
> over
> for
> the
costs
informed
out
> in
have
> but
> least
> world
> continued
Active
company
> got
responding
> to
> response
wasn't
might
> know
> didn't
this
website
any
> all
> citizenships,
> want
Otherwise,
> It
THE
> but
> to
> the
> could
>
>
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Aug 31, 2001, 3:52pm
If it is so free, why can't we buy a world for $60 then? think about it
[View Quote]"the derek" <ImTheDerek at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3B8FB5D6.216754F2 at yahoo.com...
> what you forget is that it is a gift. normally i
> wouldnt think a tourist would be able to build a
> very good world before being a cit first. you used
> to actually HAVE to BE a cit and yet they still
> gave free cits... cause it was a gift it wasnt
> meant to be the first citizenship. if they do put
> any info on the browser it would have to be in the
> random immigration officer messages not the
> register now button
>
> m a r c u s wrote:
inform
world,
expanded
They
January, I
your
bought
I am
would
don't
and
have
a
buyer
to
you
there
You
that
you
Because
maybe
stating
the
gave
come
over
for
the
costs
informed
out in
have
but
least
world
continued
Active
company
got
responding to
response
wasn't
might
know
didn't
this
website
any
all
citizenships,
want
Otherwise,
It
THE
but
to
the
could
|
Aug 31, 2001, 3:53pm
then go here
http://members.aol.com/chessmusic/gcn/gcnmusic.htm (Best for higher
connections)
[View Quote]"sw chris" <chrisw10 at nckcn.com> wrote in message
news:3b8fb786 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Oh here we go again... Around and around we go... We don't care.
>
> SW Chris
>
> "m a r c u s" <i_have_a_site at yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3b8f34a7$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
costs
> want.
> has
there
> Marcus,
stating
the
> gave
> come
> over
> for
> the
costs
informed
out
> in
have
> but
> least
> world
> continued
Active
company
haven't
> not
> YOUR
> REALLY
me",
you
> for
there
> is
> message
of
If
> y
> your
product",
free
ppl
confirm
> came
found
>
>
|
Aug 31, 2001, 4:00pm
the button isnt the only way to register its just
a quick way to do it by CC
and *looks over to sw*
WE DONT CARE :o)
[View Quote]m a r c u s wrote:
>
> There is no reference to a url in which you mention Flagg. I don't know
> what to make out of an intent unless I see a page that says "your
> citizenship to the world is not intended for you but for you to give to a
> friend". You need to show me a url that makes this kind of intent or Flagg
> more accurately since he is the one who asserted.
>
> I am not talking about renewing, I am talking about openly disclosing the
> terms of purchase on a citizenship in which they inform a tourist which
> click "register now" in the program that they do have and that they did make
> (I am not making this up)that a world also comes with a citizenship. THEY
> DO DO THIS, this is what they do with the register button, and I am saying
> they should complete the "register now" button to let the person know.
>
> It should be in one location, and they CHOSE, not me, BUT ACTIVE WORLDS
> CHOSE, to make it so you clicked the register now button.
>
> I DIDN'T CHOOSE IT, ACTIVE WORLDS DID!!! They made the button and why don't
> they put the information when you register there.
>
> "builderz" <sawran at yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3B8FA6C1.6B477FAB at yahoo.com...
> up
> becoming
> $20
> others
> you
> had
> upsized
> when
> $60,
> into
> my
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Aug 31, 2001, 4:02pm
lol they didnt lie to you and once again
we
dont
care
[View Quote]m a r c u s wrote:
>
> I am sure I can do a lot of things, but when I offered to pay $60 for a
> world and they could use the $20 I already paid for a citizenship they
> didn't accept they. They wanted $100 total from me, when I would have paid
> them eventually 200 for a world after developing it a couple years. Maybe
> even more money would have been given to them by me, I don't know.
>
> I like the program, but I don't like how they operate. It reminds me of car
> salesman tactics just to squeeze more money out of us and I ain't getting
> squeezed.
>
> "sw chris" <chrisw10 at nckcn.com> wrote in message
> news:3b8fb666 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> January,
> I
> would
> don't
> a
> buyer
> to
> there
> You
> you
> Because
> maybe
> stating
> the
> costs
> informed
> out
> have
> Active
> company
> responding
> wasn't
> might
> this
> website
> any
> Otherwise,
> THE
|
m a r c u s wrote:
>
> I am sure I can do a lot of things, but when I offered to pay $60 for a
> world and they could use the $20 I already paid for a citizenship they
> didn't accept they. They wanted $100 total from me, when I would have paid
> them eventually 200 for a world after developing it a couple years. Maybe
> even more money would have been given to them by me, I don't know.
>
> I like the program, but I don't like how they operate. It reminds me of car
> salesman tactics just to squeeze more money out of us and I ain't getting
> squeezed.
>
> "sw chris" <chrisw10 at nckcn.com> wrote in message
> news:3b8fb666 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> January,
> I
> would
> don't
> a
> buyer
> to
> there
> You
> you
> Because
> maybe
> stating
> the
> costs
> informed
> out
> have
> Active
> company
> responding
> wasn't
> might
> this
> website
> any
> Otherwise,
> THE
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Aug 31, 2001, 4:02pm
....? because there is a setup fee which is 70?
[View Quote]m a r c u s wrote:
>
> If it is so free, why can't we buy a world for $60 then? think about it
>
> "the derek" <ImTheDerek at yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3B8FB5D6.216754F2 at yahoo.com...
> inform
> world,
> expanded
> They
> January, I
> your
> bought
> I am
> would
> don't
> and
> have
> a
> buyer
> to
> you
> there
> You
> that
> you
> Because
> maybe
> stating
> the
> gave
> come
> over
> for
> the
> costs
> informed
> out in
> have
> but
> least
> world
> continued
> Active
> company
> got
> responding to
> response
> wasn't
> might
> know
> didn't
> this
> website
> any
> all
> citizenships,
> want
> Otherwise,
> It
> THE
> but
> to
> the
> could
|
Aug 31, 2001, 4:36pm
Please see my comments below:
[View Quote]m a r c u s wrote:
>
> There is no reference to a url in which you mention Flagg.
|
That is because Flagg did not post a URL, he posted here in this
newsgroup. You want a URL? Go here:
news://news.activeworlds.com/3b8a5ebf%241%40server1.Activeworlds.com.
> I don't know
> what to make out of an intent unless I see a page that says "your
> citizenship to the world is not intended for you but for you to give to a
> friend". You need to show me a url that makes this kind of intent or Flagg
> more accurately since he is the one who asserted.
Ever heard the word "implied?"
> I am not talking about renewing, I am talking about openly disclosing the
> terms of purchase on a citizenship in which they inform a tourist which
> click "register now" in the program that they do have and that they did make
> (I am not making this up)that a world also comes with a citizenship. THEY
> DO DO THIS, this is what they do with the register button, and I am saying
> they should complete the "register now" button to let the person know.
My fault. I haven't logged in as a tourist for ages and I forgot what
the button says. I should have said the "Register Now" button instead of
the "Renew" button in my prior post.
> It should be in one location, and they CHOSE, not me, BUT ACTIVE WORLDS
> CHOSE, to make it so you clicked the register now button.
>
> I DIDN'T CHOOSE IT, ACTIVE WORLDS DID!!! They made the button and why don't
> they put the information when you register there.
I never said you chose it. I said if you want it changed, go contact
Rick and/or JP.
Builderz
Stuff-X - Bot & World Hosting Services
http://aw.stuff-x.com/
PGP Key ID: 0xAC0E7073 (for non-commercial use)
Aug 31, 2001, 4:39pm
Flagg would know it a bit better than you, you stupid gnome! Flagg is kinda
the sales director of the AWC...
KAH
[View Quote]"m a r c u s" <i_have_a_site at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3b8fcd94$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> There is no reference to a url in which you mention Flagg. I don't know
> what to make out of an intent unless I see a page that says "your
> citizenship to the world is not intended for you but for you to give to a
> friend". You need to show me a url that makes this kind of intent or
Flagg
> more accurately since he is the one who asserted.
>
> I am not talking about renewing, I am talking about openly disclosing the
> terms of purchase on a citizenship in which they inform a tourist which
> click "register now" in the program that they do have and that they did
make
> (I am not making this up)that a world also comes with a citizenship. THEY
> DO DO THIS, this is what they do with the register button, and I am saying
> they should complete the "register now" button to let the person know.
>
> It should be in one location, and they CHOSE, not me, BUT ACTIVE WORLDS
> CHOSE, to make it so you clicked the register now button.
>
> I DIDN'T CHOOSE IT, ACTIVE WORLDS DID!!! They made the button and why
don't
> they put the information when you register there.
>
>
>
> "builderz" <sawran at yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3B8FA6C1.6B477FAB at yahoo.com...
> up
a
> becoming
free.
> $20
> others
known
> you
your
STINGY
have
> had
> upsized
> when
me
> $60,
from
pay
> into
in
> my
the
>
>
|
Aug 31, 2001, 4:39pm
Guys, he's half kettled... just ignore him. Flagg, you, Goober, many have
made the point very clear. He doesn't care about the issue or the logic
surrounding it, he just wants to be up on his soap box getting attention.
The sane world has made their point and made it well, if he wants to keep
crying about this let him... but you're only feeding him by replying.
Marcus does this only for attention, and by giving him attention you just
fuel him.
Aug 31, 2001, 4:42pm
I saw you had fun sending me over ten e-mails with that link when I replyed
to you, I'd just like to point out that that's spamming, and that it can be
reported to your ISPs abuse dept...
KAH
[View Quote]"m a r c u s" <i_have_a_site at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3b8fcf13 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> then go here
> http://members.aol.com/chessmusic/gcn/gcnmusic.htm (Best for higher
> connections)
>
> "sw chris" <chrisw10 at nckcn.com> wrote in message
> news:3b8fb786 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
Worlds,
> costs
the
long
Active
everything
> there
> stating
they
world.
> the
to
I
have
again
many
here
tell
like
the
> costs
> informed
> out
> have
no,
> Active
> company
apart
more)
> haven't
message
previous
me
USE
it
who
to
> me",
> you
asked
the
> there
didn't
something
> of
> If
do
for
message
> product",
maintains
> free
the
> ppl
> confirm
I
Your
> found
>
>
|
Aug 31, 2001, 5:42pm
M a r c u s,
Thank you for taking the time to read this post.
This will be my last post on this issue as I feel I have already answered
your concerns both in this thread and in a previous thread on April 17th.
Free citizens that come with a world have no value, they are a free gift (no
matter how you want to look at it). When we reconfigured the world prices
free citizenships were actually not going to be included. We added them at
the last minute as we felt our users would not like the change. As I have
stated before it is assumed that a user that purchases a world is already a
citizen.
However, I feel all the above is completey irrelevant. Why? Because you
seem to have forgotten your own issue. When you orginally contacted us via
e-mail what you wanted was the ability to change AW's backdrop and you were
upset that you had to buy a world if you wanted backdrop control. Then you
felt that we had mislead you because you relized worlds came with free
citizens and you had to buy yours. We offered to refund your money and we
offered to make your citizen one of the free ones that would come with your
world. Did you except this offer that is exactly what you are asking for
now? No! What you sent us was a "take it or leave it" offer to give you
one P-10/5 ($79.95) and one copy of TrueSpace3 ($69.95) and you would in
turn give us $100.00. We declined your offer.
I fully understand the issue revolving around this thread and the orginal
issue you had with us months ago. I have done my research and read
everything you have had to say. However, just because I understand what you
are saying does not meen I or anyone else has to agree.
Sincerely
Tom Fournier
Customer Service / Sales Manager
Activeworlds.com Inc.
95 Parker St.
Newburyport, MA 01950
www.activeworlds.com
Aug 31, 2001, 5:58pm
We don't care.
--
Chris
Eagle Scout, Philosopher, Peacemaker, and... Kung Fu Master?
http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html
[View Quote]"m a r c u s" <i_have_a_site at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3b8fcd94$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> There is no reference to a url in which you mention Flagg. I don't know
> what to make out of an intent unless I see a page that says "your
> citizenship to the world is not intended for you but for you to give to a
> friend". You need to show me a url that makes this kind of intent or
Flagg
> more accurately since he is the one who asserted.
>
> I am not talking about renewing, I am talking about openly disclosing the
> terms of purchase on a citizenship in which they inform a tourist which
> click "register now" in the program that they do have and that they did
make
> (I am not making this up)that a world also comes with a citizenship. THEY
> DO DO THIS, this is what they do with the register button, and I am saying
> they should complete the "register now" button to let the person know.
>
> It should be in one location, and they CHOSE, not me, BUT ACTIVE WORLDS
> CHOSE, to make it so you clicked the register now button.
>
> I DIDN'T CHOOSE IT, ACTIVE WORLDS DID!!! They made the button and why
don't
> they put the information when you register there.
>
>
>
> "builderz" <sawran at yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3B8FA6C1.6B477FAB at yahoo.com...
> up
a
> becoming
free.
> $20
> others
known
> you
your
STINGY
have
> had
> upsized
> when
me
> $60,
from
pay
> into
in
> my
the
|
>
>
Aug 31, 2001, 5:59pm
We don't care.
--
Chris
Eagle Scout, Philosopher, Peacemaker, and... Kung Fu Master?
http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html
[View Quote]"m a r c u s" <i_have_a_site at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3b8fcedf$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> If it is so free, why can't we buy a world for $60 then? think about it
>
> "the derek" <ImTheDerek at yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3B8FB5D6.216754F2 at yahoo.com...
> inform
a
> world,
> expanded
care
> They
> January, I
> your
> bought
point
> I am
of
them
> would
> don't
world
> and
> have
DON'T
for
> a
> buyer
consumer
like
> to
page,
> you
the
> there
and
> You
think
> that
all
> you
> Because
case.
> maybe
> stating
they
world.
> the
to
I
> gave
have
> come
> over
again
many
here
> for
tell
> the
like
the
> costs
> informed
> out in
> have
no,
> but
> least
> world
> continued
> Active
> company
apart
more)
haven't
> got
> responding to
> response
YOUR
> wasn't
> might
> know
not
> didn't
> this
> website
> any
check
> all
> citizenships,
before
other
you
> want
> Otherwise,
months.
> It
> THE
product
> but
some
out
> to
with
> the
analogy
> could
>
>
|
Aug 31, 2001, 6:01pm
We don't care.
--
Chris
Eagle Scout, Philosopher, Peacemaker, and... Kung Fu Master?
http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html
[View Quote]"m a r c u s" <i_have_a_site at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3b8fcf13 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> then go here
> http://members.aol.com/chessmusic/gcn/gcnmusic.htm (Best for higher
> connections)
>
> "sw chris" <chrisw10 at nckcn.com> wrote in message
> news:3b8fb786 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
Worlds,
> costs
the
long
Active
everything
> there
> stating
they
world.
> the
to
I
have
again
many
here
tell
like
the
> costs
> informed
> out
> have
no,
> Active
> company
apart
more)
> haven't
message
previous
me
USE
it
who
to
> me",
> you
asked
the
> there
didn't
something
> of
> If
do
for
message
> product",
maintains
> free
the
> ppl
> confirm
I
Your
> found
>
>
|
Aug 31, 2001, 6:08pm
What? He thought you should be able to change the backdrop in OTHER
people's worlds? huh? p-10/5 and TS for only 100.... made awcom an
offer.... oowwwww my brain. I don't think I've read anything so stupid in
my life.
I think Marcus' main problem is that he has a very warped and selfish view
on how the world works, or should work. He has almost no understanding on
what is "fair" or "right". He's stuck with the two year old perspective of
the world where if he doesn't get what he wants, when he wants he, and how
he wants it, it isn't fair. But since he's no longer two years old (I'd
guess around the 13-15 range right now) he's managed to fool him self into
actualying thinking his self-centred view of the world is actualy what
should be. So instead of just sitting in the corner and crying when he
doesn't get his way, he'll demand a refund from awcom since they didn't
give him a load of free stuff for no reason. The most sad thing is, he
seriously thinks he is right. If this was all some not-so-smart way to try
and scam and scare awcom into getting free stuff it would just be funny...
but he seriously thinks he's in the right and on the moral high ground.
Aug 31, 2001, 7:44pm
LMAO!!! he wanted a $50 discount and he's pissed cuzz he didn't get it??
*bonk* Marcus, you do realize that you're just Marcus, not Marcus Thy
Allmighty, Ruler of The Entire Known World? just getting a $50 discount out
of nowhere? are you sane? have you taken illegal drugs lately?
KAH
[View Quote]"flagg" <tom at activeworlds.com> wrote in message
news:3b8fe8b4$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> M a r c u s,
>
> Thank you for taking the time to read this post.
>
> This will be my last post on this issue as I feel I have already answered
> your concerns both in this thread and in a previous thread on April 17th.
>
> Free citizens that come with a world have no value, they are a free gift
(no
> matter how you want to look at it). When we reconfigured the world prices
> free citizenships were actually not going to be included. We added them
at
> the last minute as we felt our users would not like the change. As I have
> stated before it is assumed that a user that purchases a world is already
a
> citizen.
>
> However, I feel all the above is completey irrelevant. Why? Because you
> seem to have forgotten your own issue. When you orginally contacted us
via
> e-mail what you wanted was the ability to change AW's backdrop and you
were
> upset that you had to buy a world if you wanted backdrop control. Then
you
> felt that we had mislead you because you relized worlds came with free
> citizens and you had to buy yours. We offered to refund your money and we
> offered to make your citizen one of the free ones that would come with
your
> world. Did you except this offer that is exactly what you are asking for
> now? No! What you sent us was a "take it or leave it" offer to give you
> one P-10/5 ($79.95) and one copy of TrueSpace3 ($69.95) and you would in
> turn give us $100.00. We declined your offer.
>
> I fully understand the issue revolving around this thread and the orginal
> issue you had with us months ago. I have done my research and read
> everything you have had to say. However, just because I understand what
you
> are saying does not meen I or anyone else has to agree.
>
>
> Sincerely
>
> Tom Fournier
> Customer Service / Sales Manager
> Activeworlds.com Inc.
> 95 Parker St.
> Newburyport, MA 01950
>
> www.activeworlds.com
>
>
>
>
|
Aug 31, 2001, 11:31pm
Sorry that url didn't work, can you send a url that ends in ".htm"
It tried opening something in AOL.
[View Quote]"builderz" <sawran at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3B8FD735.AFD0A97D at yahoo.com...
> Please see my comments below:
>
> m a r c u s wrote:
>
> That is because Flagg did not post a URL, he posted here in this
> newsgroup. You want a URL? Go here:
> news://news.activeworlds.com/3b8a5ebf%241%40server1.Activeworlds.com.
>
a
Flagg
>
> Ever heard the word "implied?"
>
the
make
THEY
saying
>
> My fault. I haven't logged in as a tourist for ages and I forgot what
> the button says. I should have said the "Register Now" button instead of
> the "Renew" button in my prior post.
>
don't
>
> I never said you chose it. I said if you want it changed, go contact
> Rick and/or JP.
>
> Builderz
> Stuff-X - Bot & World Hosting Services
> http://aw.stuff-x.com/
> PGP Key ID: 0xAC0E7073 (for non-commercial use)
|
Aug 31, 2001, 11:31pm
Yes, and I don't care to continue using active worlds either.
http://members.aol.com/chessmusic/gcn/gcnmusic.htm
[View Quote]"sw chris" <chrisw10 at nckcn.com> wrote in message
news:3b8fec7f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> We don't care.
> --
> Chris
> Eagle Scout, Philosopher, Peacemaker, and... Kung Fu Master?
> http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html
>
> "m a r c u s" <i_have_a_site at yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3b8fcd94$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
a
> Flagg
the
> make
THEY
saying
> don't
have
they
their
end
was
> a
> free.
counting
> known
> your
> STINGY
> have
$80,
> me
> from
> pay
had.
punished
stand
> in
> the
Junodome.
account
>
>
>
|
Aug 31, 2001, 11:33pm
http://members.aol.com/chessmusic/gcn/gcnmusic.htm
[View Quote]"kah" <kah at kahbot.com> wrote in message
news:3b8fda7e at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I saw you had fun sending me over ten e-mails with that link when I
replyed
> to you, I'd just like to point out that that's spamming, and that it can
be
> reported to your ISPs abuse dept...
>
> KAH
>
> "m a r c u s" <i_have_a_site at yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3b8fcf13 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Worlds,
they
citizenship.
> the
> long
> Active
> everything
> they
> world.
about
needed
> to
$20
> I
> have
and
> again
> many
> here
> tell
> like
> the
guy
> no,
At
a
> apart
> more)
you!
> message
> previous
> me
> USE
"website",
> it
> who
:::points
> to
reference
stating
> asked
> the
> didn't
> something
out
me.
> do
> for
> message
> maintains
more
> the
Give
in
on
program.
then
> I
hands
> Your
>
>
|
Aug 31, 2001, 11:49pm
"Free citizens that come with a world have no value, they are a free gift
(no
matter how you want to look at it)."
They appear to have a $20 value, please give me something accurate Flagg
"When you orginally contacted us via e-mail what you wanted was the ability
to change AW's backdrop and you were upset that you had to buy a world if
you wanted backdrop control. Then you felt that we had mislead you because
you relized worlds came with free
citizens and you had to buy yours."
I DID feel misled back in Jan, but still liked the program so I figured
"well, if there was a way I could change the background it wouldn't matter
if I had a world cause I don't need to create new objects or have my own
avatars." The background is the feature I wanted. I came to you guys
working with your system you have in place asking "hey, if you are going to
add a citizen with a world I don't need, then give me the background I
need". That is the offer I made, if you refused it fine NO MONEY FOR YOU
THEN. Please give me something accurate Flagg, you are not seeing my
position clearly if you assumed I didn't feel misled FROM THE VERY START in
January when I found out worlds came with a citizenship WHICH Active Worlds
DOES sell for about $20.00.
If you were going to refund anything, why didn't close my account, credit my
$20 to a world or refund it entirely. You didn't, you held on to it like a
grubby salesman. Now you say you would have. Well, I am saying Active
Worlds could have, and they DIDN'T.
"I fully understand the issue revolving around this thread and the orginal
issue you had with us months ago."
You obviously don't, you are just making up false arguments to make me look
bad. My offer was to pay Activeworlds on a 2 year plan, where in the end
you would have more money. You refused that. Now you can walk away
with -$180, you only have $20 of my money.
[View Quote]"flagg" <tom at activeworlds.com> wrote in message
news:3b8fe8b4$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> M a r c u s,
>
> Thank you for taking the time to read this post.
>
> This will be my last post on this issue as I feel I have already answered
> your concerns both in this thread and in a previous thread on April 17th.
>
> Free citizens that come with a world have no value, they are a free gift
(no
> matter how you want to look at it). When we reconfigured the world prices
> free citizenships were actually not going to be included. We added them
at
> the last minute as we felt our users would not like the change. As I have
> stated before it is assumed that a user that purchases a world is already
a
> citizen.
>
> However, I feel all the above is completey irrelevant. Why? Because you
> seem to have forgotten your own issue. When you orginally contacted us
via
> e-mail what you wanted was the ability to change AW's backdrop and you
were
> upset that you had to buy a world if you wanted backdrop control. Then
you
> felt that we had mislead you because you relized worlds came with free
> citizens and you had to buy yours. We offered to refund your money and we
> offered to make your citizen one of the free ones that would come with
your
> world. Did you except this offer that is exactly what you are asking for
> now? No! What you sent us was a "take it or leave it" offer to give you
> one P-10/5 ($79.95) and one copy of TrueSpace3 ($69.95) and you would in
> turn give us $100.00. We declined your offer.
>
> I fully understand the issue revolving around this thread and the orginal
> issue you had with us months ago. I have done my research and read
> everything you have had to say. However, just because I understand what
you
> are saying does not meen I or anyone else has to agree.
>
>
> Sincerely
>
> Tom Fournier
> Customer Service / Sales Manager
> Activeworlds.com Inc.
> 95 Parker St.
> Newburyport, MA 01950
>
> www.activeworlds.com
>
>
>
>
|
Sep 1, 2001, 12:21am
M a r c u s,
What part of "This will be my last post on this issue as I feel I have
already answered your concerns both in this thread and in a previous
thread on April 17th." don't you understand?
Builderz
Stuff-X - Bot & World Hosting Services
http://aw.stuff-x.com/
PGP Key ID: 0xAC0E7073 (for non-commercial use)
[View Quote]m a r c u s wrote:
>
> "Free citizens that come with a world have no value, they are a free gift
> (no
> matter how you want to look at it)."
>
> They appear to have a $20 value, please give me something accurate Flagg
>
> "When you orginally contacted us via e-mail what you wanted was the ability
> to change AW's backdrop and you were upset that you had to buy a world if
> you wanted backdrop control. Then you felt that we had mislead you because
> you relized worlds came with free
> citizens and you had to buy yours."
>
> I DID feel misled back in Jan, but still liked the program so I figured
> "well, if there was a way I could change the background it wouldn't matter
> if I had a world cause I don't need to create new objects or have my own
> avatars." The background is the feature I wanted. I came to you guys
> working with your system you have in place asking "hey, if you are going to
> add a citizen with a world I don't need, then give me the background I
> need". That is the offer I made, if you refused it fine NO MONEY FOR YOU
> THEN. Please give me something accurate Flagg, you are not seeing my
> position clearly if you assumed I didn't feel misled FROM THE VERY START in
> January when I found out worlds came with a citizenship WHICH Active Worlds
> DOES sell for about $20.00.
>
> If you were going to refund anything, why didn't close my account, credit my
> $20 to a world or refund it entirely. You didn't, you held on to it like a
> grubby salesman. Now you say you would have. Well, I am saying Active
> Worlds could have, and they DIDN'T.
>
> "I fully understand the issue revolving around this thread and the orginal
> issue you had with us months ago."
>
> You obviously don't, you are just making up false arguments to make me look
> bad. My offer was to pay Activeworlds on a 2 year plan, where in the end
> you would have more money. You refused that. Now you can walk away
> with -$180, you only have $20 of my money.
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