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Oct 30, 2002, 8:24pm
Hey Goob... we could always put the AWNews forum on the SW City website.
=P swcity.net.
SW "Shameless Plugger" Chris
[View Quote]"goober king" <gooberking at utn.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:3DBF68BA.3030704 at utn.cjb.net...
> Firstly, an update on the AWNews situation: We're still in the process
> of cleaning up the database mess that Cybor left behind. I'm also
> installing forums onto the website so AWNews will have its own forums
> once everything's ready to go!
>
> In the meantime, the folks over at VR Village Voice
> (http://www.spiraline.com/~vrvillagevoice/html) have been nice enough to
> allow us to post AWNews stories on their site while we get ours up and
> running. You can get to the AWNews portion of the site by clicking
> "Sections" in the VRV Modules List and clicking the huge AWNews logo
> that pops up (which, by the way, is a brand new logo!) Go there now to
> see AWNews special coverage of the CY Awards, including COMPLETE voting
> results!
>
> Ok, now that that spam is out of the way, time to get down to brass
> tacks. As I'm sure most of you recall, AWNews lost its awnews.com domain
> to a domain squatter. At the time, this caused a swelling of support for
> AWNews and its cause, with some even going so far as saying they would
> do whatever they could to help, including sending money.
>
> Well, guess what? I'm calling your bluff.
>
> Now that AWNews is relatively back in the swing of things, it's time to
> cash in your chips and help out the cause. However, it's not money that
> we need, it's bodies! We need physical help! Reporters, Programmers,
> Designers, Photographers, Editors, basically anyone who has an inkling
> for news and the ever constant search for the virtual truth!
>
> Let's face facts, folks, if you people really want AWNews to live on,
> then it can no longer be a one-man operation anymore, and for all
> intents and purposes, that's what's it's been these past couple years.
> So the continued success of AWNews rests on *your* shoulders, and I mean
> that literally. I can no longer do this on my own, and as those of you
> who know me know I suck at motivating people to do my bidding. Oh sure,
> I can write rousing columns and NG posts, but as we've all come to learn
> here in AW, talk is cheap.
>
> Now before you all start blasting me with emails saying "i dunno what i
> can do, but i wanna help!!", let me explain something to you. I've been
> involved with AW organizations for almost 4 years now. And every time,
> EVERY time, I try to get some semblance of a staff together, it always
> disintegrates within a month or two, if even that long. See, I'm of the
> philosophy that I should be able to give you the tools you need to do
> your job, and then you will go and do it simply because it's what you
> want to do (and what you signed up to do in the first place). However,
> it seems that most eager volunteers think that I need to be giving them
> instructions ever second of every day, otherwise they'll forget about
> their position.
>
> So, with that in mind, here's what I need, regardless of job
> description. I need people that:
> 1. Love to explore
> 2. Like talking to and meeting new people
> 3. Want to know the REAL story
> 4. Don't mind hob-nobbing with an AW "celebrity" occasionally
> 5. Are inquisitive and curious
> 6. Think AW is a way of life, not a spare time pet project
> 7. Are available at a moment's notice. (This doesn't mean you have to
> devote every waking hour to AW, but I should be able to send you a
> telegram and get a response within a day, not a week)
> 8. Are SELF-MOTIVATED!!! (i.e. would do this sort of thing as a hobby,
> in their sleep, etc.)
>
> So, think you fit this profile? Let's hope so, because here're the jobs
> available for you:
>
> Reporters - Above all else, reporters are the mainstay of AWNews. They
> are the ones that go out into the field and get the story, the WHOLE
> story. They ask the questions, they record the chat, they hunt down the
> relevant people. These people always have their ears to the ground and
> their eyes open looking for the next big story and pouncing on it as
> soon as it happens. Being able to actually write your own articles would
> be a big plus, but not entirely necessary. As long as you're willing to
> ask the tough questions and get ALL the answers, then this job's for
> you. And if you think you'll have trouble finding stories, then we'll
> find some for you.
>
> Photographers - The New AWNews is going to be quite graphic-intensive
> compared to previous versions. With that in mind, we'll need
> photographers to capture the story as it happens, or at least get the
> aftermath. In most cases, Photographers and Reporters will be paired
> together on a story so that they both get the same material. Needs to
> have some concept of photography, including setting up the shot,
> arrangement, etc. (in other words, knows the difference between a good
> shot and a bad shot)
>
> Programmers - AWNews currently uses PostNuke as the backbone of its
> system. While this is a wonderful open-source document management
> system, it's a bit too generic for AWNews purposes. And since I know
> squat about PHP, (at least for now) we need programmers to tweak and
> bend the system to our will! An expert understanding of PHP, mySQL, and
> HTML would be ideal for this position.
>
> Editors - While not a top priority, having more than one Editor on staff
> would certainly help lighten my load. Has to have a *extremely* good
> knowledge of the English language, as you'll probably spend most of your
> time taking random gibberish and turning into a literary work of art.
>
> Graphics Designers - You're sole responsibility will be making spiffy
> graphics for the website. This includes, but is not limited to, headline
> graphics, top story graphics, photography touch-ups, etc. Basically, if
> there's a story that needs a graphic or edited photo, you'll be the one
> to do the job. Experience in Photoshop or other high-end graphics
> program will be necessary for this job, as well as a basic understanding
> of design principles.
>
> See anything that tickles your fancy? Ok then, I give you your first
> test in wanting to sign up for the AWNews staff: FOLLOWING DIRECTIONS!!
> If you can do this much, then you're definitely on your way to becoming
> a full-fledged, card-carrying member of the virtual press. Simply send
> me an email to gooberking at utn.cjb.net and state which position you want
> to sign up for and why. Do not send me any telegrams. Do not reply to
> this message. (unless you want to stir up more pointless debate) Think
> you can handle that? Good, I thought so, too.
>
> As for the rest of you, the ones who don't think they have anything to
> contribute, guess what? You do! Spread the word that AWNews is back on
> the streets! Especially be sure to tell those who no longer use AW,
> since a large part of our former readership were people *outside* AW!
> Also, if you can bend the ear of some of our fellow citizens in other
> AW-based universes like OuterWorlds or DreamLand Park, let them know
> we're looking for them too! The eventual plan is to have AWNews cover
> *all* AW-based universes, but it can only happen with *your* help!
>
> So next time you feel the urge to send me a telegram saying "When's
> AWNews going to be back up?!", stop yourself and change it to say "What
> can I do to help AWNews get back up?" You'll get a much more pleasant
> response out of me, and you'll be helping AWNews in the long run. It's a
> win-win situation!
>
> --
> Goober King
> AWNews Editor in Chief
> robrod at prism.net
>
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Oct 30, 2002, 8:33pm
ANY good reporter worth his salt will at least listen to and know who Bill
O'Reilly is on occasion. You can listen to his radio show through Streaming
Audio at
http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/url?bc=y&call=KFQD&band=AM&service=AM
at 9PM VRT and runs till 11PM VRT. His TV show The O'Reilly Factor begins
at 1AM VRT daily.
He's rough, he's tough, and he likes to ham it up. He's the most
entertaining news analyst out there, and even if you don't always agree with
him he'll still listen to you.
:)
Chris
[View Quote]"goober king" <gooberking at utn.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:3DBF68BA.3030704 at utn.cjb.net...
> Firstly, an update on the AWNews situation: We're still in the process
> of cleaning up the database mess that Cybor left behind. I'm also
> installing forums onto the website so AWNews will have its own forums
> once everything's ready to go!
>
> In the meantime, the folks over at VR Village Voice
> (http://www.spiraline.com/~vrvillagevoice/html) have been nice enough to
> allow us to post AWNews stories on their site while we get ours up and
> running. You can get to the AWNews portion of the site by clicking
> "Sections" in the VRV Modules List and clicking the huge AWNews logo
> that pops up (which, by the way, is a brand new logo!) Go there now to
> see AWNews special coverage of the CY Awards, including COMPLETE voting
> results!
>
> Ok, now that that spam is out of the way, time to get down to brass
> tacks. As I'm sure most of you recall, AWNews lost its awnews.com domain
> to a domain squatter. At the time, this caused a swelling of support for
> AWNews and its cause, with some even going so far as saying they would
> do whatever they could to help, including sending money.
>
> Well, guess what? I'm calling your bluff.
>
> Now that AWNews is relatively back in the swing of things, it's time to
> cash in your chips and help out the cause. However, it's not money that
> we need, it's bodies! We need physical help! Reporters, Programmers,
> Designers, Photographers, Editors, basically anyone who has an inkling
> for news and the ever constant search for the virtual truth!
>
> Let's face facts, folks, if you people really want AWNews to live on,
> then it can no longer be a one-man operation anymore, and for all
> intents and purposes, that's what's it's been these past couple years.
> So the continued success of AWNews rests on *your* shoulders, and I mean
> that literally. I can no longer do this on my own, and as those of you
> who know me know I suck at motivating people to do my bidding. Oh sure,
> I can write rousing columns and NG posts, but as we've all come to learn
> here in AW, talk is cheap.
>
> Now before you all start blasting me with emails saying "i dunno what i
> can do, but i wanna help!!", let me explain something to you. I've been
> involved with AW organizations for almost 4 years now. And every time,
> EVERY time, I try to get some semblance of a staff together, it always
> disintegrates within a month or two, if even that long. See, I'm of the
> philosophy that I should be able to give you the tools you need to do
> your job, and then you will go and do it simply because it's what you
> want to do (and what you signed up to do in the first place). However,
> it seems that most eager volunteers think that I need to be giving them
> instructions ever second of every day, otherwise they'll forget about
> their position.
>
> So, with that in mind, here's what I need, regardless of job
> description. I need people that:
> 1. Love to explore
> 2. Like talking to and meeting new people
> 3. Want to know the REAL story
> 4. Don't mind hob-nobbing with an AW "celebrity" occasionally
> 5. Are inquisitive and curious
> 6. Think AW is a way of life, not a spare time pet project
> 7. Are available at a moment's notice. (This doesn't mean you have to
> devote every waking hour to AW, but I should be able to send you a
> telegram and get a response within a day, not a week)
> 8. Are SELF-MOTIVATED!!! (i.e. would do this sort of thing as a hobby,
> in their sleep, etc.)
>
> So, think you fit this profile? Let's hope so, because here're the jobs
> available for you:
>
> Reporters - Above all else, reporters are the mainstay of AWNews. They
> are the ones that go out into the field and get the story, the WHOLE
> story. They ask the questions, they record the chat, they hunt down the
> relevant people. These people always have their ears to the ground and
> their eyes open looking for the next big story and pouncing on it as
> soon as it happens. Being able to actually write your own articles would
> be a big plus, but not entirely necessary. As long as you're willing to
> ask the tough questions and get ALL the answers, then this job's for
> you. And if you think you'll have trouble finding stories, then we'll
> find some for you.
>
> Photographers - The New AWNews is going to be quite graphic-intensive
> compared to previous versions. With that in mind, we'll need
> photographers to capture the story as it happens, or at least get the
> aftermath. In most cases, Photographers and Reporters will be paired
> together on a story so that they both get the same material. Needs to
> have some concept of photography, including setting up the shot,
> arrangement, etc. (in other words, knows the difference between a good
> shot and a bad shot)
>
> Programmers - AWNews currently uses PostNuke as the backbone of its
> system. While this is a wonderful open-source document management
> system, it's a bit too generic for AWNews purposes. And since I know
> squat about PHP, (at least for now) we need programmers to tweak and
> bend the system to our will! An expert understanding of PHP, mySQL, and
> HTML would be ideal for this position.
>
> Editors - While not a top priority, having more than one Editor on staff
> would certainly help lighten my load. Has to have a *extremely* good
> knowledge of the English language, as you'll probably spend most of your
> time taking random gibberish and turning into a literary work of art.
>
> Graphics Designers - You're sole responsibility will be making spiffy
> graphics for the website. This includes, but is not limited to, headline
> graphics, top story graphics, photography touch-ups, etc. Basically, if
> there's a story that needs a graphic or edited photo, you'll be the one
> to do the job. Experience in Photoshop or other high-end graphics
> program will be necessary for this job, as well as a basic understanding
> of design principles.
>
> See anything that tickles your fancy? Ok then, I give you your first
> test in wanting to sign up for the AWNews staff: FOLLOWING DIRECTIONS!!
> If you can do this much, then you're definitely on your way to becoming
> a full-fledged, card-carrying member of the virtual press. Simply send
> me an email to gooberking at utn.cjb.net and state which position you want
> to sign up for and why. Do not send me any telegrams. Do not reply to
> this message. (unless you want to stir up more pointless debate) Think
> you can handle that? Good, I thought so, too.
>
> As for the rest of you, the ones who don't think they have anything to
> contribute, guess what? You do! Spread the word that AWNews is back on
> the streets! Especially be sure to tell those who no longer use AW,
> since a large part of our former readership were people *outside* AW!
> Also, if you can bend the ear of some of our fellow citizens in other
> AW-based universes like OuterWorlds or DreamLand Park, let them know
> we're looking for them too! The eventual plan is to have AWNews cover
> *all* AW-based universes, but it can only happen with *your* help!
>
> So next time you feel the urge to send me a telegram saying "When's
> AWNews going to be back up?!", stop yourself and change it to say "What
> can I do to help AWNews get back up?" You'll get a much more pleasant
> response out of me, and you'll be helping AWNews in the long run. It's a
> win-win situation!
>
> --
> Goober King
> AWNews Editor in Chief
> robrod at prism.net
>
|
Oct 30, 2002, 10:43pm
ohhh the lengths I'll go to to plug our site. >:)
Chris
[View Quote]"maki" <maki at awmaki.com> wrote in message
news:3dc06ce4 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> sw chris
website.
>
> orrrr, "we" could put the forum on the awnews website. =P awnews.org.
>
> maki awmaki.com
>
>
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Oct 30, 2002, 11:39pm
Well you need to understand something here first, Goober. O'Reilly is NOT a
reporter. He's a news analyst. Secondly, don't tell me Lerher or Brown or
Koppel are reporters. They're pansy interviewers. Brokaw's alright, but
he's with MSNBC.
O'Reilly himself was the first guy to bust open the door on the Red Cross
not giving all the money given to them for 9/11 _to_ the victems of 9/11.
Nobody else even touched that. Right now he's railing on the marijuana
pushers who want to legalize it and set up drive-through stands in
Sacremento. He's the _only_ guy going after Ashcroft for letting John Lee
Malvo get off of being deported by the Feds. So come on. Don't tell he's
after ratings and not the truth. The guy only got ratings by telling the
truth.
Just an FYI. :P
SW "CNN Sucks" Chris
[View Quote]"goober king" <gooberking at utn.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:3DC08A5B.5010602 at utn.cjb.net...
> Bill O'Reilly is hardly a reporter. He just gets paid to shine a
> spotlight on some hapless "ne'er-do-well" and pepper him with inane
> questions in the never ending quest for viewers. True reporters seek the
> truth, not ratings. You can just as easily gain the answers you seek
> with a soft hand and a smiley face than a closed fist and a scowl.
>
> sw chris wrote:
Bill
Streaming
http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/url?bc=y&call=KFQD&band=AM&service=AM
begins
with
>
>
> --
> Goober King
> Reporters actually *report* things!
> robrod at prism.net
>
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Oct 31, 2002, 3:01pm
When I said you should listen to and know who O'Reilly is, I was not
intending that his style be at template on how reporting is done. Rather
that it be a basis. You have to admit, they guy asks tough questions. And
that's all I was getting at. :)
btw... O'Reilly lets his listeners decide what they should think about
something as well. His arguements are just usually the right ones, that's
all. =P j/k. Seriously, it's up his audience to decide if he's right or
not. If you watch, he almost always says that he'll let the audience decide
at the end of each interview.
Chris
[View Quote]"goober king" <gooberking at utn.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:3DC0ABBB.5030101 at utn.cjb.net...
> I never said any news anchors or analysts were reporters. However, you
> were insinuating that somehow O'Reilly should be a guide for wanna-be
> reporters, when he's not even a reporter himself.
>
> As for O'Reilly and his crusades, noble as they may be, that's not what
> AWNews is about. We report on the facts and let them speak for
> themselves, that's it. We're not trying to get people to think or feel a
> certain way about a story; we'll let the readers decide how to feel
> about something. But if you want someone to tell you how to think about
> a story, then fine, watch O'Reilly or Chris Matthews or Rush Limbaugh or
> whatever talking head suits your fancy. But as far as actual *news*
> goes, the only place you'll find such things at AWNews is in the Opinion
> section, where it belongs.
>
> sw chris wrote:
NOT a
or
but
Cross
9/11.
Lee
he's
the
http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/url?bc=y&call=KFQD&band=AM&service=AM
>
>
> --
> Goober King
> Pillar of truth and *objectivity*
> robrod at prism.net
>
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Nov 1, 2002, 5:31pm
Ok, there is a difference between a fight and a debate. The Gor thing so
far has pretty much been a debate. :)
Chris
[View Quote]"jstone2004" <jstone_2004 at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3dc1f881 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> precisely :P we have different opinions, the last post was supposed to be
> sarcastic, to show people who utterly stupid the whole fighting business
is
> :P
>
> J
>
> "carlbanks" <CarLBanks at insight.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:3dc1f81a at server1.Activeworlds.com...
Rocks!
> and
it
> utilized.
> AW!
think
> think.
> EXPERIENCED
do
best
bot
> of
>
>
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Oct 31, 2002, 3:04pm
The only _reason_ personal attacks happen around here is because people know
they can get away with it.
Chris
[View Quote]"wizard myrddin" <Hippyring at rdescape.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3dc107aa$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> It has always surprised me that many protagonists of threads in this
> newsgroup profess to be educated and respectable members of a community,
I
> have seen many good points raised for discussion and debate.
>
> As with many newgroups there is always some that cannot debate or discuses
> without taking it to the "personal" level and from observations
activeworlds
> newsgroups are no different then many others. If people cannot contribute
to
> any discussion with resorting to taking it to the personal only makes
people
> consider the possibly of perhaps hiding facts or the facts stated or true
> and will try to discredit the protagonist through personal attacks.
>
> If members of any community feel threatened by this it is a sad reflection
> of structure of any community where the freedom of speech is restrained
only
> by fear of flaming and ridicule. A community is one where all have a right
> to be heard, all have a right to voice opinions, all have a right to
debate.
>
> When I observe disapprobation about events or about a structure that has
> been in existence to receive sarcasm and personal attacks only brings
about
> questions as to the organisation (no matter what organisation it is) and
its
> people.
>
> But then from what I have seen it is a very simple process in many groups
to
> insult, riducle and threaten someone your would never do in a face to face
> situation.
>
>
> If my memory is correct I beleave Flagg himself said "No personal attacks"
> in the newgroups.
>
>
>
>
>
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Nov 4, 2002, 6:40pm
*our* exclusive club. I helped too. =P
SW Chris
[View Quote]"syntax" <syn at swcity.net> wrote in message
news:3dc4b298 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Wooo hoooo, Builderz! Nice to see another join my exclusive club! :-D
> --
> - Syntax - The Original Ultimate NG Survivor
> http://www.swcity.net
> http://forum.swcity.net
>
>
>
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Nov 5, 2002, 6:15pm
Well... that's why they're asking for help, Carl.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"carlbanks" <CarLBanks at insight.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3dc7d8ff$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Well #1. Mutation has the most Stable and coolest Bot. #2. I checked out
> their world it looks like a complete dump. #3. RPG's are old news but
> Mutation is a complex game.
>
> "wizard myrddin" <Hippyring at rdescape(DOT)co(DOT)uk> wrote in message
> news:3dc7d87c$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
Linn
community
> for
>
>
|
Nov 6, 2002, 7:44pm
I wouldn't elect them. I'd just pick em. That way you don't elect some
moron who's popular but still incompetent. Not to say that anybody in here
is stupid and incompetent, but it's happened before... :)
SW Chris
[View Quote]"shred" <shred at myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:3dc888c8 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> The newsgroups would not need to be shut down if they were only monitored
by AWC. However, since this is obviously not going to happen, I would
suggest that AWC set up a vote in order for newsgroup participants to elect
three or four fairly impartial regular users of the newsgroups to enforce
the rules that were originally set by AWC in the Community Charter.
>
> I am not suggesting moderation. That was tried once, and the experiment
was a failure. AWC simply does not have the time nor the manpower to keep a
regular watch on the newsgroups. Therefore, I suggest if a very small group
of trusted newsgroup members were elected to the "monitor group" and given a
strict set of guidelines that they must abide by, set by AWC, I think the
problem would be mostly solved.
>
> wizard myrddin wrote:
which
bigot
is
>
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Nov 6, 2002, 7:46pm
Whoa whoa... Kerstin has only recently replied to threads when she's been
attacked in them. I can't speak for her record, but please, don't finger
point. If the mods want to do this, then they will. If they don't, no
problem.
Chris
[View Quote]"binarybud" <leom at knorrinteractive.com> wrote in message
news:3dc921b9 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> look in the mirror troublemaker.
>
> "kerstin" <kersting at blast.net> wrote in message
news:3dc91197$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
be
wars,
missed, is
>
>
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Nov 6, 2002, 7:47pm
What's wrong with free speech in PK patrolled worlds? *poke* =P
SW Chris
[View Quote]"strike rapier" <strike at rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3dc96b32 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I do not think that AW users should be given the right to moderate this
newsgroup, only AWI themselfs, we already have the PKs ruling almost all but
4 AW worlds, GKs in 1, TPs in another and WKs in AWNewbie and AWSchool. This
is really the only place for fully expressed free speach (within reason)
>
> While I think that moderation is a good idea, I think that it should be
done by people who can be held directly responcable for bad ideas (So AWI)
and id have much more faith in someone like Flagg, over some of the people
who may end up moderating it.
>
> - Mark
>
>
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Nov 6, 2002, 7:50pm
I'd like a bulletin board system implemented instead of newsgroups. That
way you can edit your posts. =P
Chris
[View Quote]"binarybud" <leom at knorrinteractive.com> wrote in message
news:3dc967d4$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Well said Mark....:)
>
> "strike rapier" <strike at rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3dc96769 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
whole of Active Worlds where a large number of people can see others
thoughts at any time, the newsgroup is 1 of the fundimental hearts of the
community, its where we tell others of what were doing, tell people about
events, and just have general chat among the entire community.
these newsgroups the simple solution is to unsibscribe for them, but do not
attempt to get them closed for the rest of us.
news:3dc868a5 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
which
bigot
to
it is
>
>
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Nov 6, 2002, 3:45pm
Blah. It's in the community spirit, so it's allowable. ;)
Christmas.... what to do... I'm itching to do something but I dunno what.
??? Comit and I must start scheming...
SW Chris
[View Quote]"nornny11" <Nornny1 at attbi.com> wrote in message
news:3dc908c8 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I know we're all trying to relieve ourselves of chaos and everything by
> trying to divert the topic, but shouldn't this be in general discussion?
:)
> Unless you're talking about what we're doing for Christmas in AW, in which
> case, I'll be planning a blowout Christmas party with as many contacts I
can
> grab. :))
>
> Who's with me?
> --
> --
> From the Newbie's Guide to the AW NG:
>
> "Nornny11 - The original wishy-washy man, this one can actually insult
you
> and compliment you in the same breath, and in the end say absolutely
> nothing! What a talent!"
> "gandalf" <Gandalf at madactor.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3dc87341 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
>
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Nov 6, 2002, 7:15pm
He can do both....
Chris
[View Quote]"binarybud" <leom at knorrinteractive.com> wrote in message
news:3dc966bf$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> we hope not.....he has much better things to do....;) like hiding more
underwater treasures in NewAW...:)
>
>
> "goober king" <gooberking at utn.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:3DC95EC0.8080002 at utn.cjb.net...
;)
and
can
of
to
with a
office
the
that
group I
marring
delete
post
be
can
your
>
>
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Nov 6, 2002, 7:22pm
You mean a password for each citizen number?
SW Chris
[View Quote]"strike rapier" <strike at rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3dc9933f at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Can we presume that passwords will require setting independantly so that
those of us who are perfectly capable of visiting X / R rated worlds without
problems can get into them without having problems?
>
> - Mark
> "e n z o" <enzo at activeworlds.com> wrote in message
news:3dc98ea7 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
way
in
your
the
pointed
user
the
rest
>
>
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Nov 6, 2002, 7:23pm
That would also prevent Johnny from uninstalling AW and then reinstalling it
just so he can set his own password. ;)
SW Chris
[View Quote]"bowen" <thisguyrules at 7k2.4mg.com.ANTISPAM> wrote in message
news:3dc990f6$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> If I can suggest something. At the credit card submission page, have that
be where
> the Password is defined. As it will give parents more the opportunity to
choose the
> level of access then if you do it later on where the kid might not tell
his parents.
> It seems the only logical place for it and I hope this does help a little.
>
> I don't mind the gors, but I don't like the gorean ideas. No offense to
them. I
> really don't want to get into detail as to what and why, but it's just my
opinion.
>
> --Bowen--
>
> "e n z o" <enzo at activeworlds.com> wrote in message
> news:3dc98ea7 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
way
in
your
the
pointed
user
the
rest
>
>
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Nov 6, 2002, 7:51pm
Well then the CY committee better do something about that. They have to
achieve a balance.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"strike rapier" <strike at rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3dc99606 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I think that risks excluding members of the community, after all, it is
the CY awards that are part of the CY awards ceremony. Not the actual world,
even if they do get promotions.
>
> - Mark
> "e n z o" <enzo at activeworlds.com> wrote in message
news:3dc9956f$3 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
>
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Nov 6, 2002, 7:54pm
Man you're popping them before I can even read em. ":o
Chris
[View Quote]"e n z o" <enzo at activeworlds.com> wrote in message
news:3dc95424$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Hi everyone,
>
> Over the last week or two several issues have erupted between members of
the
> community. This Newsgroup was not intended to be a place where names and
> insults would be thrown back and forth. It is a community group and to me
> that means people that are working/playing/communicating together with a
> positive goal not a negative one.
>
> I realize that there are always going to be missunderstanding between
> people, and that not everyone will agree on how issues should be handled.
> That being said, I also realize that by tearing others down no good
results.
>
> Several valued members of the community have actually called the office
> because they are so disturbed and hurt by what is being said here in the
> newsgroup. While I find it difficult to believe that anyone can be that
> affected by posts here - especially since you can filter or ignore threads
> or posters you do not like, I do know that people are being hurt deeply.
> Since this is the case and since this is not the purpose of this group I
> must ask you all to please refrain from the flame wars that are marring
this
> group.
>
> While it is a very time consuming process to go through, read and delete
> messages, we will being doing so to the best of our ability. If a post is
> judged to be defamatory or immflamatory and of no real value it will be
> deleted. I assure you some will be missed. Please ignore them. I can
also
> assure you that some non deserving posts will be deleted, for this I
> apologize in advance.
>
> If this newsgroup is of value to you please use it with respect for your
> community.
>
>
> Regards
>
> ENZO
>
> PS... It was a lot easier when you only flamed me and Cryonics ;)
>
>
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Nov 6, 2002, 11:34pm
Ok I misunderstood the post. I took it to mean that you don't like
dissenting opinions about any subject because of their very nature, which
would be understandable. But it doesn't promote a good free thinking
environment.
And that was my point. I'm sorry for going after you. Forgive me? :)
Chris
[View Quote]"lady gabrielle" <tesslacap at cox.net> wrote in message
news:3dc9a16e at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> SW why must someone always be afraid.. the point was harmony.... *Opinions
> as like rear-ends... everyones got one... but not everyone wants to hear
> them*
> Im just sayin like i tried to say before.. its time for the Civil war to
> end.. there is NO winner... so just DROP it SW... How hard is that?
>
> LG
>
>
> "sw chris" <chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net> wrote in message
> news:3dc99570 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
to
monies
my
> members
> names
and
> with
> between
good
in
be
> group
will
I
I
for
>
>
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Nov 6, 2002, 11:43pm
That sums it up perfectly I think. :)
SW Chris
[View Quote]"elyk" <KFoerst at telocity.com> wrote in message
news:3dc9a8b2$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I think that you should keep an eye on the newsgroups as you stated, but
not
> to the point to where you have ppl telling you what THEY want deleted. If
we
> did it that way, then anyone could come up to you and tell you "Delete
this!
> I find it offensive!" When, in reality, maybe that post wasn't meant to
> offend. Maybe it was an important post that someone just took the wrong
way.
> Besides, I think you (E N Z O) have the smarts to determine what is wrong
or
> right in the newsgroups. If you have people doing it for you, then things
> will get deleted that may be important to those who posted it. In other
> words, be cautious, but not TOO cautious. Occasional "I disagrees" are
fine
> I think, if they are courteous and respectful about it. Honestly, I think
> they are putting you to too much work than needs to be done. You are a
busy
> person, you shouldnt have to hold peoples hands. Otherwise, this is a
great
> idea ;o)
> ------
> Elyk
> "e n z o" <enzo at activeworlds.com> wrote in message
> news:3dc95424$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> the
and
me
handled.
> results.
threads
deeply.
> this
is
> also
>
>
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Nov 7, 2002, 12:10am
You're right. We don't need chaperons. But we DO need mods who actively
monitor this newsgroup.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"elyk" <KFoerst at telocity.com> wrote in message
news:3dc9d571$2 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Thats just the point......people take things WAY too seriously. E N Z O
> shouldnt have to watch over us as if he were babysitting. Isn't it enough
> that he has done all that he has done so far? I mean look at how AW has
> developed. Now just because 2 or 3 people made a post complaining to E N Z
O
> that they are offended, I'm guessing they expect E N Z O to drop
everything
> and come rushing to hold hands and monitor the newsgroups so nobody is
hurt.
> C'mon, we are mostly adults here....we don't need chaperones. Yes, I do
> think that AWI can keep an eye on the newsgroups but not to where we can't
> say "I disagree" without it being deleted. As long as the disagreement is
> respectful and not rude, then I dont see a problem with it. This isn't
> "Blues Clues" on CD-Rom ;o)
> "linn" <ironhead at digitalpassage(dot)com> wrote in message
> news:3dc9d2af at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
>
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Nov 7, 2002, 10:34pm
Some people... :)
I think this accentuates the point that we do need some active moderators in
here. They're the key to a happy newsgroup. The mood has lightened
considerably (for the most part) since all these posts have been deleted.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"e n z o" <enzo at activeworlds.com> wrote in message
news:3dca928c at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> :)
>
> I for one self censor my reading... I know who I would read messages from
> and what topics are of interest. Until the recent rash of
> calls/telegrams/email to the office I thought everyone in here did as
well.
>
> With 22K of messages, I was asking for a place to start looking for posts
I
> probably had filtered.
>
> ENZO
>
>
> "sw chris" <chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net> wrote in message
> news:3dc9d33a$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
but
> If
to
wrong
> wrong
> things
other
> think
members
> of
names
> to
with
> a
between
> office
> the
> that
group
> I
> marring
> delete
> post
> be
> can
> your
>
>
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Nov 7, 2002, 11:02pm
BINGO!
SW Chris
[View Quote]"elyk" <KFoerst at telocity.com> wrote in message
news:3dcaf95e$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> What Daphne is saying is that they shouldn't promote that kind of adult
> content. After the CY Awards, I visited the adult world that won the award
> and found some very inappropriate pictures of a woman sitting on a guys
lap,
> naked and having sex. This shouldnt be displayed as some of AW's "best".
Do
> you ever watch the news reports about the types of websites that are
online
> now? You don't see them promoting that. I believe the news described those
> types of pictures as "filth." Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the
> world was filth....but some of their content is. The CY Awards are a
> "Community" thing. People of all ages make up the community, including
> children. If we promote that kind of content, then it will bring more of a
> negative impression to people about ActiveWorlds.
> "goober king" <gooberking at utn.cjb.net> wrote in message
> news:3DCA948B.5010709 at utn.cjb.net...
> they
> rules
and
> and
> increase...
> though
> great
with
> what
> this
> 'always'
> online
offer...
worlds
> controversy!!!
Awards
> or
CYs
the
fault
world.
an
to
award.
is
> a
>
>
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Nov 7, 2002, 11:17pm
You're quite right. Some people wouldn't be happy until adult worlds were
totally removed. But the thing is they are part of the community, like it
or not. Most people will be content with it, though, and in most cases the
majority should determine policy.
Chris
[View Quote]"antigone" <alphabit at swbell.net> wrote in message
news:3dca7db4$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Well...then basically the adult world Cys would move away from the Cys
> entirely as I see it?
>
> From posts in the past people seemed upset that there are even adult
worlds
> in the aw universe.
> Would the next outcry be for aw to remove adult themed worlds from the aw
> universe?
>
> I don't think removing adult themed worlds from the Cys would settle the
> main concerns for some folks in the community.
>
> I don't think some folks would be truly happy until adult themed worlds
were
> completely removed from our universe.
>
> But that's just my observation from all the past history regarding them:)
>
>
|
Nov 7, 2002, 11:22pm
Yes, kerstin has already decided that that idea will probably not work.
Although I'd be in favor of allowing teens to participate in both
ceremonies. But would that cheapen the value of a CY if teens were elegible
for both a TeenCy and a Cy?
Chris
[View Quote]"jstone2004" <J at Jlife.net> wrote in message
news:3dcb0aed$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Even I will have to speak out against this. As the AWTeen Community
> Relations Officer, it is not right to ban an AWI sponsored world from a
huge
> event such as this.
>
> J
>
> "kerstin" <kersting at blast.net> wrote in message
> news:3dca5874$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
those
environment.
by
cits!
for
satisifed.
renew
award.
a
>
>
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Nov 7, 2002, 11:27pm
I wouldn't call it alienation. More like a positive opportunity for
competition between one's peers.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"jstone2004" <J at Jlife.net> wrote in message
news:3dcb0bc5$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> There isn't a solution, or at least not an easy one. Having it on two
nights
> would alienate a large part of the community from the main awards. Either
> way, one part of the community will be alienated, from how it seems.
Either
> it will be the teens, or the adult worlds. Which will the Cy's choose?
>
> J
>
> "lady gabrielle" <tesslacap at cox.net> wrote in message
> news:3dca8e7f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> incluse
nite
> but
be
> in
folks..
before
what
> Only
do
> stage
> participation
>
>
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Nov 7, 2002, 11:38pm
You uh, have to admit that public society does frown on x-rated material.
You also have to admit that you can't change public opinion. You can only
work with or around it. If you follow that idea through to its conclusion,
you will see that promoting that kind of material at a public ceremony can
only reflect negatively on the Active Worlds software as a whole.
However you can stem that problem by having another awards ceremony for
adult worlds, giving those adult worlds a good opportunity to recognize
those of their peers. This is not an ideal situation for ANY party. I will
concede you that. But you must admit that it is a compromise that meets
both interests half-way, and therefore one of the best proposals for solving
this CY question.
SW Chris
[View Quote]"talisan" <wardaor at !hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3dcb1048$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> With all due respect to you Elyk, but it appears that you are attempting
to
> cause deliberate trouble with some of your recent posts.
>
award
> lap,
>
> Where the heck was this? You won't find this in GZ on any world I've ever
> visited. But if you did, you went into an X rated world. Certainly wasn't
> GorVernA. I'd appreciate knowing which world so I can see this for myself.
>
>
> Why not? Why should a world, because it has a nude picture in it, be
> discluded from receiving an award if it deserves to for the merits of the
> award and by popular vote? 2 worlds you object to did win awards, they did
> so because people voted for them and had more votes than other nominee's.
> That's the point behind a vote. Are you now going to have an Elyk Award
show
> where you forego voting and give out awards to what you think should win
> them? All worlds in the AW universe ARE part of the community. Therefore
all
> worlds in the AW Universe should be allowed to win a CY award by popular
> vote.
>
> online
those
the
a
>
> Yes, the community is a range of all ages. But, it has been suggested too
> many times recently that we should disclude adults worlds... well, how
would
> you appreciate it if instead of discluding adults, we instead disclude
> anyone under the age of 18? Turn the boat around and make it so only
worlds
> owned and operated by 18 years of age or greater and only visitable by 18
or
> older were the only people considered allowed to win a CY award. I can
think
> of many people here in this group who would very much argue against that
and
> passionately so.
>
> So far I can count 5 people in this newsgroup who have gone over the top
in
> arguing that adult worlds should be discluded. They have done so very
> passionately, not always thinking out their ideas, making assumptions,
> trying to force their view of the world. I am not trying to force you to
go
> to any adult worlds, nor am I attempting to change your view of adult
> worlds, but I am attempting to convince the people in this newsgroup that
> discluding a significant portion of the community from the CY's is wrong,
> morally, and ethically.
>
> --Talisan
>
>
>
>
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Nov 7, 2002, 11:38pm
She was being sarcastic I think.
Chris
[View Quote]"elyk" <KFoerst at telocity.com> wrote in message
news:3dcb0c51 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> With all due respect. I think now you are just trying to pick out events
to
> direct attention to them instead of on CY. Citbingo doesn't really
promote
> anything.....its a game world. CY is a little different. ;o)
> "antigone" <alphabit at swbell.net> wrote in message
> news:3dcb0b8b at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
>
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Nov 8, 2002, 2:23am
It _doesn't_ have to be one or the other. I would personally give the adult
themed worlds another CY Awards ceremony. Why? Because their content
promotes a lifestyle that kids can't be a part of. In a G and PG rated CY
Awards, _everyone_ can enjoy the Cys as long as their _content_ is
appropriate. Do you guys understand this? Please consider that point of
view, because that is the correct way to look at it. Adults will not be
excluded from a family-friendly Cy Awards, but kids _will_ be excluded from
an adult-themed CY Awards.
[View Quote]"antigone" <alphabit at swbell.net> wrote in message
news:3dcb2dd2$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Well jstone...it could go the other way...where adult themed worlds would
be
> hindered:(
>
>
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