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Jan 29, 2002, 4:33am

Just a question. Is there any way, via a cracked browser or something, to see whispers not directed at you, or are they sent
directly to the recipient? Do they have to travel through a server?

I'm not asking to actually do it, of course :) Someone claimed he could do that, and I seriously doubt it. Anyone knows?

Fox Mc Cloud

Jan 29, 2002, 2:26pm

Yeah, probably through a cracked Worldserver. For this case however, the universe is cyberbrain and all worlds are hosted by them,
so there's no risk at all :)
Thanks to all who answered...

And, yes, you CAN do anything once the .exe is on your disk, but the Real Crackers / Script Kiddies ratio is getting lower every
day... that's my feeling anyway...
When someone says "1'm G0nN4 h4x0r Y4 j00 5uX3r!!" I just laugh in his face and give him my IP and email address, and I receive a
file named Surprise.exe in an email 3 days later with "Now you're gonna die !!! hahahahaha ! Ph34r !!!!!!!" in the message body.
(don't laugh, it actually happened)

Fox Mc Cloud

"swe" <m_swehli at hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message news: 3c56a815 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> emmm, hate to break this to u lot, but it aint accully possible throw a
> browser, which was what fox was asking bout :) but throw a world server
> maybe :) hell, what do i know?
>
> SWE
> I do what those who cant do what i can do dont wanna do.
> www.emptyco.com

Feb 3, 2002, 8:57pm

www.jesus.com <-- my favourite website, especially the Contact / MailBag section... It's a good laugh every time... lol

Fox Mc Cloud

"sw chris" <chris at skywalkeronline.net> a écrit dans le message news: 3c5cb357$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> You don't take Jesus seriously? I pity you. :) You have much to learn,
> young apprentice.
>
> SW Chris

Feb 8, 2002, 1:53pm

Well, I'm pretty sure they must have thought of this all... there's always fineprint in license agreements that say things like
"terms are subject to change without notice" and such...

Fox Mc Cloud

"filmkr" <nospam at privacy.com> a écrit dans le message news: 3C63EE72.D8B16111 at privacy.com...
> I wonder why everyone lives in fear instead of hiring a lawyer to protect
> their rights. Now when you bought your citizenship it was for the purpose of
> protecting your builds. The current AW site even states one of the privileges
> and features are "Your property remains under your control and ownership, and
> cannot be deleted by other users." Now whoever would delete it would be a
> "user", even if that "user" were to be the company or a bot controlled by a
> company "user"
>
> In addition... for world owners to be told that their FREE citizenships would
> not be free any longer... well how is that legal? The e-mails from the p-10
> and p-20 worlds I have purchased state that they are FREE citzenships.
> Therefore not renewing them sure seems like a legal issue as what I bought is
> not being fulfilled... after all... the software license fee is a ONE TIME
> fee... and the cost of renewals needs to remain in what the courts would
> consider proper and customary. I believe that the court would find that AW
> benefited from the license fee and was pleased with the pricing they had
> stated when the license was purchased. Therefore to revoke what was already
> given would therefore be incorrect and not proper. Since the purpose for the
> company would be solely financial gain, the court might consider punitive
> damages to prevent the company from such wrong doings in the future...
>
> These are just my questions and opinions... but I keep seeing so much that I
> know would make a judge cringe... yet no one stands up as a body and stops
> they wrong doing...

Feb 8, 2002, 2:00pm

I understand very well how you want to keep all this data... But still... is it really of any use? I'm sure there are thousands of
builds that NO ONE saw since they were built. Isn't that a waste of disk space on the server?
A few months ago, I still had on my disk thousands of mp3s I had accumulated over the years... I had always been careful never to
delete one cause I might want to hear it again sometime... and my 45GB disk was always full... One day PartitionMagic decided to
crash on me, leaving me with a nice, clean disk. Now I must have something like 500MB of songs that I listen a lot to, and I found
out I'm not missing the others in any way... and have plenty of disk space...
Well, this is just to say that sometimes there's no reason to live in the past, you'd maybe be upset for a few days, but after that
you'd just forget it and enjoy the new possibilities offered. Even a total reset of AW could be fun :)

Fox Mc Cloud

"duskbat" <duskbat at innocent.com> a écrit dans le message news: 3C63D9EF.848E0E66 at innocent.com...
> Thanks for yalls time on this, I gotta go to work so real fast. I am just
> upset that some special builds will be lost. This is a kind of art, Aw is
> canvis and the rwx is paint and paint brush. Why delete at all? is there a
> software issue because of AW's content? I suggest a task force set up to
> deal with this, One that hunts out rouge land covers for deletion, and takes
> survays for possible deletion sites. It sure can be done, the company who
> owns this might not see having time for it, but they could allow it to be
> set up. Something with the PK or GET help possibly. But every thing
> suggested here wether good idea or not is just imagination. The staff dosnt
> listen. Personaly I know some people, including Lotus Petal who are on
> leave and will not me happy to see there stuff gone in the wind. thanks
> and have a nice day be sure to visit 7000s 7000w teleportation in AW!
> Duskbat
> *spell checker has expired

Feb 10, 2002, 5:48pm

Forgot to reply to this one :P

Well, the point here is not the use of Active Worlds, it would rather be the use of some buildings, in Active Worlds. My definition
of a building being useful is that at least one person has seen it in a few months... buildings that sit there not being seen by
anyone nor owned by anyone just take up server space

Fox Mc Cloud

"sw chris" <chris at skywalkeronline.net> a écrit dans le message news: 3c643308 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I'll grant you your point if you can tell me what the use of Active Worlds
> is. :)
>
> SW Chris
>
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Feb 13, 2002, 5:21am

Well, after visiting it (part of it, obviously), I can say it DOES take some skill... programming skill. Nice job, icydee...
I'll agree that a bot building doesn't fit in a size contest though, it'd be too easy

Fox Mc Cloud

"moff piett" <baronjutter at shaw.ca> a écrit dans le message news: 3c6a03f7$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Sprawl. Boo to sprawl. Sprawl is just brute force work. Size actualy
> takes some skill. Have to contend with frame rates and the building
> inspector.
>
>

Feb 13, 2002, 5:36am

I totally agree with your idea that there should be a limited building size on AW. We're just spoiled because we're used to the
freedom we've had, but it was just a stupid decision, or lack thereof. Anyone could cripple the whole world with sparse objects
everywhere using a bot...
We just don't need that much room.

Fox Mc Cloud

"pc hamster" <pchamster at email.msn.com> a écrit dans le message news: 3c67215c$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Hi everyone
>
> I hinted on the group list last night that I had an alternative idea to 3D
> Homepages, and after some much needed rest in the wake of my "trip", I'm now
> posting my deas here. Feel free to comment on them if you wish.
>
> I was passing some WONDERFUL (and not-so-wonderful) builds as I raced back
> ON FOOT from about 24,000 N 24,000 W all the way abck to GZ (took me a
> little over 24 hours to do it though), I began to wonder WHY is ActiveWorlds
> charging for 3D Homeages (which have *very little* #D functionality) when in
> fact they could *easily* (and more feasibly) charge for space on AlphaWorld
> instead???? I mean, they've only *begun* to fill in the space there!!! How
> can they afford to just simply let all that land simply go to waste????
> It's beyond me....
>
> Now hear me out on this, okay.....
>
> Granted there are works of art on there and some builds which you wonder why
> they even exist at all. However, I believe that some pre-set guidelines
> will cure that.
>
> Once a person gets the space, they get all the objects and building tools
> currently afforded to 3D Homepage Owners. In addition to that, we would
> have access to the AlphaWorld Building Yard as well as an object compiler
> (to make the moving of duplicated objects easier). We could build on as
> mcuh (or as little) of the space as possible (up to a P-10). Plus, they
> would all be inter-connected via the roadways on Alpha World so one can just
> simply go from town to town just like driving out in the country.
>
> Speaking of driving, see my post script at the end of this message.....
>
> However though, here are some suggested guidelines.....
>
> Any bulding MUST be COMPLETELY built (and furnished!). No incomplete
> structures will be allowed or they will be deleted within a certain length
> of time not to exceed 30 calendar days. We would also have 10 calendar days
> to AT LEAST begin with construction, though any space left under
> construction for six months would be re-allocated to someone else and all
> objects imported would be deleted.
>
> We would get all this for the current price of $6.95
>
> Hypertext links could be changed whereas instead of going to some 3D
> Homepage, surfers are taken to wherever GZ used to be in the 3D Homepage
> (post 3D Homepage applicants wouldn't need to know this though because they
> never had a 3D Homepage before).
>
> Finally, to match all the particular themes out there, I think the current
> AlphaWorld could easily be rendered suitable for all current 3D Homepage
> themes except for Atlantis (these owners would fall into a new Alpha world
> called Aw-Atlantis or something like that). Seperate Alpha worlds can later
> be created to better match the theme.
>
> So guys, have I gone totally beserk or am I on to something????
>
> Your tuen to comment....Cheers... :-)
>
> Patrick Cook
> Owner - Hamsterville (as known in the Immigration Officer greeting - Pub
> 102X otherwise)
> pchamster at msn.com
> Denver, Colorado
>
> P.S.: Is there some reason why there isn't a CAR in the Avatars pull-down
> menu on AlphaWorld???? I mean if AlphaWorld is going to be made into a near
> replica of America's fascination with roads, we ought to at least have the
> option of being a car as we drive down the roads. Can AW answer this one???
> If no one does, I bring it up when I take up some others matters with AW.
> In the meantime Cheers....Patrick :-)
>
>

Feb 13, 2002, 8:49pm

How about a limit per user per month? That way only old timers could have huge buildings ;)
Anyway this isn't going to happen in AW, everyone would be unhappy about it...

Fox Mc Cloud

"grimble" <grimble2000 at btinternet.com> a écrit dans le message news: 3c6a62d7$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Only problem is that limited building size per cit means limited growth of
> AW ...
>
> Grims

Feb 15, 2002, 3:11pm

Orc is actually the same as Goblin (Orc being the name given by Hobbits to Goblins, according to Tolkien :) )

Fox Mc Cloud

"perseus" <theperseus at optushome.com.au> a écrit dans le message news: 3c6c98c5 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> hmm well an orc is actually the same thing as an ogre..
>
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Feb 15, 2002, 8:49pm

Imps are brown humanoid creatures that throw fireballs at you ! but one close range shotgun shot is enough to take them down... :P

Fox Mc Cloud

"billybob" <vbillybob87 at aol.com> a écrit dans le message news: 3c6d8f4a at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> i wont have wizards, that will be one of the rules of my game...once again I
> wont go into details of why. Imps....are....well.......small and stupid :)
> In Final Fantasy 1 they are just there to help you get your first experiance
> points.
>
>

Feb 20, 2002, 12:49am

Please post that kind of things in the Spam newsgroup, not in community. Oops, there's no Spam newsgroup. Then just don't.

Fox Mc Cloud

"filmkr" <nospam at privacy.com> a écrit dans le message news: 3C7303A9.4A7BCF54 at privacy.com...
> Since you know no factual data nornny why not just keep your mouth shut?
> Heartfall World Hosting is one of the largest most reliable hosting services
> around. <Spam Snipped> It has been around for many years
> and hosts hundreds of extremely satisfied customers. The service they get is the
> the reason they refer so many of their friends. You just can't seem to help
> yourself from making comments can you? It's a shame you cannot post anything
> useful to readers other than those opinions. I posted replies because I was sick
> of the abusive nature people had in the world builders newsgroups. Kids like
> yourself who just like to flame rather than offer anything of value. If you wish
> to see the things that the Heartfall group does for users view some of these
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> for people to make unique worlds like A!!usion , SouI <cap i and Serenity To
> show users what they can do other than flat worlds. We are always helping
> people 7 days a week.

Feb 19, 2002, 9:44pm

I totally agree with you. AW is a drain of resources, and we don't need a world that big anyway (the fact that it's 1% full is a proof of that. What kind of server would they shall we try to fill it?)
It's not going to happen, but I'd just like them to make a new, more reasonably-sized public building world (like 1/50 of AW's size), with all new well thought objects and textures, and just completely delete alphaworld off their hard drives, it's just taking up disk space :P

The old timers wouldn't like it, but would the newbies care? In just a few months it'd be all forgotten.

Fox Mc Cloud

Feb 22, 2002, 12:08pm

"kellee" <kellee at my.activeworlds.com> a écrit dans le message news: 3c756f6b at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Goober, all our current buildings WILL be wiped out if the rumours i have
> been hearing are true. Its been discussed in this newsgroup about a plan
> about to be implemented that every citizen still registered after February
> will be deleted 60 days after citship expiration. To me that indicates the
> fact that AWcom feels the need to "do something" about Alpha and i was
> trying to find a way to save not only the old builds, but our current ones
> to.

To me, it just indicates a way for AW to stop people from fleeing. They said that they wouldn't delete builds by people who didn't know their buildings would be deleted. What about those who know ? (that's us) Simple. Pay or have all your buildings destroyed. Shall you ever want to stop paying, and your history will be gone.
Not that I care (for my buildings I mean), but surely many do.

Fox Mc Cloud

Feb 23, 2002, 4:49am

Well, they could upgrade alphaworld to an all new object set, and keep the old objects on the object server, so the old builds still work, but have only the new object set in the registry, so all new builds use the new objects...

Fox Mc Cloud

"grimble" <grimble2000 at btinternet.com> a écrit dans le message news: 3c770dea at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> WILL be different, dammit!
>
> Grims
>
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Feb 23, 2002, 5:28am

some of the older objects don't deserve to exist ò_

Fox Mc Cloud

"grimble" <grimble2000 at btinternet.com> a écrit dans le message news: 3c773f6a at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> But isn't that pretty much where we are now, except that you're actually
> taking the existing objects away?
>
> Grims

Feb 21, 2002, 7:27pm

"joeman" <Joeman at bootdown.com> a écrit dans le message news: 3c75557c$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> you block that, you block anyone working at AWC

By the way, not sure about IP bans, but I do know that someone using priviledges of citizen 1 can not be ejected. I guess they could enter whatever the ejection etc... (have to test this though)

Fox Mc Cloud

Feb 22, 2002, 12:27pm

I can confrim that, just tested it. I could add myself to the world eject list and to the universe eject list, both work.

Fox Mc Cloud

"joeman" <Joeman at bootdown.com> a écrit dans le message news: 3c75797a$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Do you know how ejection works? Here's a brief break down
>
> Right click > eject:
> Check if CT, if so, don't eject, else, eject.
>
> World options > eject:
> Disconnect user with IP, if connect again in timelimit set, disconnect.
>
> Cit #1 is CT in every world, you cannot eject CTs from right click and
> eject. But, if you add them in by hand, the world server will just
> disconnect them, regardless if they are CT. That's just how things work...
> They cant come back in and remove it, because the world server will just
> disconnect them.
>
> -Joe

Feb 22, 2002, 12:39pm

Ok, I don't think this is much of a problem (AW can do anything with cit #1 privs anyway, even modify anyone's build without him noticing (the name would still be yours), or see your password, ppw or anything else)

However, here's an idea to MrGrimm : if there has to be a search bot, you could make it enter on a known citizen number (500 for instance, anyway a simple to remember and unused cit). The worlds that want to be indexed would just add that number to their bot rights list. Even private worlds would be indexed if they gave that cit bot rights. And the procedure to be indexed would be explained on the keyword search page so everyone knows.

Fox Mc Cloud

"ananas" <vha at oct31.de> a écrit dans le message news: 3C74974A.DF5201FC at oct31.de...
> Someone without world bot rights is using a bot in several
> worlds. I checked the logs of several unrelated worlds that
> have no bot rights entry in common, and all showed
>
> Wed 02/20/02 18:21:44 68.15.23.167:1725 -1 CONNECTED
> Wed 02/20/02 18:21:44 worldname 68.15.23.167:1725 -1 ENTER 30929 50
> Wed 02/20/02 18:21:44 worldname 68.15.23.167:1725 -1 IDENTIFIED '[Search Spider]' 0 1
> Wed 02/20/02 18:21:44 worldname 68.15.23.167:1725 1 EVENT MASK 0x0
> Wed 02/20/02 18:21:44 worldname 68.15.23.167:1725 1 DISCONNECTED
>
> It seems to have gone through the world list in alphabetical
> order and stayed in each world only for seconds.
>
> No "Not welcome" message, traceroute reveals nothing.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> --
> "_
> |
> /\
> \ /
> __/ /_

Feb 22, 2002, 12:40pm

Gee, in such cases you just change the cit1 ppw :)

Fox Mc Cloud

"wizard myrddin" <wiz at rdescape.com> a écrit dans le message news: 3c7657b0 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> hummodd must be new uniserver software.
>
> I used to have a world in another aw based Universe and a cit using cit1
> privs was caught in this Red world and was ejected for life, he just came
> back 5 times to listen into the debate that was going on at that time.
>
> This person was only found to be using cit1 privs when a complaint was
> submitted to aw for investigation and the cit was found to be using cit1
> privs legally..
>
> As such could not be included in any ejection list as cit1 has full rights
> to do and go anywhere they like.

Feb 26, 2002, 2:33am

While I agree that principles have an importance, at some point you have to trust people. If you're that suspicious about AW, don't run their browser. It could very well contain a trojan that allows AW's programmer to access all the files on your computer anytime he wants. Nobody would know if he's never used it yet. Same goes for any non-opensource program. You have to trust people sometimes. That or use Linux.

Fox Mc Cloud

"aine" <Aine at DeDanaan.com> a écrit dans le message news: 3c77e36e at server1.Activeworlds.com...
A bot like that can not only grab the world title, welcome message, and keywords, it can also grab the builder's list and then it's database can be used to identify which world cit#123456 has builder's rights in, and once it knows that, it can be programmed to systematically go from one world to the next destroying cit#123456's builds while leaving the rest of those worlds intact.

That's just one example of what could be done with the information contained in the World Rights box.

Aine

Feb 26, 2002, 5:05pm

Whatever. Now it's done, your post isn't going to delete his. No need to make a big fuss over that message. Maybe it was also intended to say "see, you're making people flee with your stupid flames".

Fox Mc Cloud

"kah" <kah at kahnews.cjb.net> a écrit dans le message news: 3c7bc723 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> why should anybody else care? we'd notice it anyway, he's implying to being
> better than the others by making a big fuss of his departure. if he wants to
> leave, he can leave. No need for posting about it.
>
> KAH

Mar 2, 2002, 11:30pm

Just so I understand, *where* did you see "in an infinite universe everything is possible" in his post ? It seems like you're answering to him saying that but he didn't... or am I misunderstanding what you meant?

As for everything being possible in an infinite universe, I agree to that.... monkeys and typewriters... :)

Fox Mc Cloud

"sunofsolaris" <thelonesoul at hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message news: 3c802e7c$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> "in an infinite universe everything is possible" oh really ? so that would
> mean that also some where in this infinite universe the opposite is also
> correct * in an infinite universe nothing is possible *, isnt that a little
> contradictory or something ?
>
> lots of love and kisses
>
> kris[Sun.Of.Solaris.]
>
> xxxxxxxxxxxx
> xxxxxxxxxxxx

Mar 1, 2002, 1:33am

duh, that's not french... lol

French Mc Cloud

"swe" <m_swehli at hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message news: 3c7ed9b2 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> u mean u got the name moff piett from star wars??? noo way! and all this
> time i thought u had french grand parents or somethign...
>
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Feb 26, 2002, 4:13am

Well, people could do something like, share the price of a citizenship and all connect through it, then go to tourist mode... Bah, no big deal anyway, it's obviously fixed by the new build :)
This is the kind of thing any programmer would have thought about when they implemented the option, I'm sure roland didn't forget about it. He most likely just felt it was unimportant and too much of a hassle to add right away...

Fox Mc Cloud

"ananas" <vha at oct31.de> a écrit dans le message news: 3C7B0E4D.3014B71 at oct31.de...
> I don't think that it's a bug at all

Feb 26, 2002, 5:14pm

You simply don't understand the meaning of his post. He never praised having a bad attitude or something.

What I understand from his posts is that while morality is widely respected in the real world, it is not in the cyberspace, and you have to cope with it. From a developer's point of view, that means preventing users from having a way to do bad things. In the real world those things just won't be done because they're bad, even if no one is there to prevent them from doing it.
Correct me if I didn't get the meaning of your posts, hiroshi.

One more thing. Before the U.S. can try to root out the wrong off of the whole planet, they'll have to start by showing the right example, and they are a long, long way from doing so. And walking in the opposite direction. Right now I see them just as bad as China for that matter.

Fox Mc Cloud

"filmkr" <nospam at privacy.com> a écrit dans le message news: 3C7BD3FA.F68B66E8 at privacy.com...
> You may wake up one day having your PC taken away as evidence and appearing in
> court facing criminal charges for the illegal data that was stored and could not
> be deleted. This is currently happening to quite a few people who have conducted
> illegal activities on the net. In the past 12 months there have been numerous
> cases. In one matter the FBI got a life conviction against one couple who was
> peddling child porn. When Bill Clinton was in office quite a few laws were
> overlooked by Janet Reno... even Bill's perjuries statements under oath... But
> today the law is coming down heavy handed once more to clean up the trash...
> and for those who say "but I am not in the U.S." "You can't touch me" Tell that
> to Bin Laden *S* The U.S. is showing it will root out wrong doing no matter
> where it is at... So the choice is simply your own,,, yes you can DO IT... and
> yes, they can fry your butt for doing it.... :)
>
> It is so much more delightful to be honest and good... it brings one light and
> happiness *S* Don't waste your life on wrong doing and bad attitude... it's
> simply not worth it...
>
> Filmkr

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