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World hosting and free downloads // CommunityalterlinksFeb 18, 2002, 4:19pm
- Professional world and bot hosting
- Unique features and services including artwork protection* - Dedicated servers - Reliable network based on Cisco systems - SSL payment - Free rwx - Free backdrops - Free textures - Free e-mail account with anti-virus protection And other goodies like a color converter (color into RWX, HTML and RGB colors) http://www.alterlinks.fr (french) http://www.alterlinks.fr/it/ (italian) http://www.alterlinks.com (us) *Only for avatars, models and textures (except backdrop) directories agent1Feb 18, 2002, 4:49pm
zeo toxionFeb 18, 2002, 5:17pm
zeo toxionFeb 18, 2002, 5:58pm
actually he said directories which means people cant view the list from the
web...although thats pretty easy just by putting an index.html in there [View Quote] carolannFeb 18, 2002, 6:24pm
Please excuse my naivete here-and believe me it doesn't offend me one bit
who posts his AW related services here, fee based or otherwise-but what is the difference as to why this advertizement by alterlinks is accepted here in the community area and the unbelievable reaction to Insanity's posts of a couple weeks ago in "Worldbuilders", which of course was exactly what Hosting, objects, etc is related to? This a real question, not an opening for any other kind of reaction. Before posting this question I looked at both sites and they both seem to be professionally done and attractive with many options for an AW world owner that need to be mentioned somewhere if anyone is ever to be able to take advantage of them. [View Quote] nornny11Feb 18, 2002, 6:55pm
Oh, I think you just haven't given this thread enough time. *wink*
Well, I think the problem with Insanity's post was the non-professionalism in the post itself, not in the site (although I do like alterlink's better). What was so non-professional about it? He replied back to stupid comments. In the process, he looked fairly stupid himself, and let the flamers know that he was actually there to be targeted. Plus, he spammed the newsgroup 3 or 4 times every month, it seemed. His approach in advertising his servers was more door-salesman'ish, casual, even an attempt at friendliness (but look where friendliness gets ya). That's not neccessarily a badthing, but it sure backfired. When looking for a world server, I, the dumb consumer, looks for less talking, more hosting. Get your point out, I'm not looking for an acquantance. You basically have what I need or don't. It's like searching for a free web host, you don't look for conversations with the web host, you just need someone to put up your pages. Alterlinks posted the features, and let us do the walking ourselves. Insanity tried to bs the newsgroup in his/her posting. Honest hosting? That was a name of the thread for god sakes (assuming insanity made up the post header, Outlook really screws me with that find feature and deleting old messages). he tried to sell the server rather than let the server try to sell itself. I hope some of this provides any insight on why I, at least, react differently to this post than to others. The lesson being "If you want to make a conversation about a product, you're bound to get one." Nornny [View Quote] silencedFeb 18, 2002, 8:12pm
Uh.. that's easy to get around such as taking the texture name and putting
it there with .jpg. such as myhost.com/op/textures/this.jpg No matter how much protection you have, that'll still be accessible if it's accessible in AW. -silenced [View Quote] jermeFeb 18, 2002, 8:18pm
Yes, what 'silenced' says is true. Unless roland teaches AW how to use HTTP
passwords (the kind you set in apache's .htaccess files) the object path will never be protected. Yes, you can hide the directory index in one of two way - as any good *nix admin should know. (1. place an "index.html" file in the directory, or (2. use Apache's indexing module and its directives to disable the directory listings all together. I do the latter for all my coustomers and do not consider it a "feature". -J A.K.A. 'JerMe' -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jeremy Booker JTech Web Systems (www.JTechWebSystems.com -- Coming Soon) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [View Quote] sw chrisFeb 18, 2002, 8:52pm
lady judeFeb 19, 2002, 2:08am
*fingers itching*
Just had to take this window of opportunity to thank Roland for all that he has done over the years to protect our op's :o) Still remember when all models, etc. were displayed and available in anyone's cache. Roland set out on a mission to mask them and to date only seq's and textures need some work. I know, I know.. there ARE ways to get around the ie: RAS files, but am speaking for the average user who chooses not to spend endless hours on a fools errand trying to figure out how to screw things up. Thank you Roland [View Quote] silencedFeb 19, 2002, 2:16am
It only takes a while to discover how things are stored in your cache.
After you figure it out, it takes mere seconds to grab a texture from an object path in a world you've been at. -silenced [View Quote] sweFeb 19, 2002, 12:30pm
i believe u can get around most http passwords thingys by just adding the
link of the picture, to anyweb page...and if not, then i dont think they will work on aw since it wont be able to download the pictures either [View Quote] jermeFeb 19, 2002, 9:14pm
SWE.. you're exactly right. If you cannot browse to your object path (with
IE or Netscape..) and view the textures and download the obj files then the AW browser can't either. This means you can't really use HTTP passwords. This is where roland could teach the AW browser to read/understand/reply correctly to HTTP password challenges. Your best bet is to use a script of some sort to hide the actual path of the OP. For example the path your users see would be http://www.mywebsite.com/myOPscript.php?object=/avatars/myav.zip Now.. that tells BS about where the OP is. I know it's on www.mywebsite.com but not the specific location.. The actual objects could be stored in a directory that is not made public by the web server, or even a directry with permissions set so that only the user the script runs under has access to the objects. That would prevent every except root and the user that calles the script (could be the same user, the user that the web server runs as, or any other specified user) from accessing the objects. This arrangement allows for the security of the objects to be handled by the OS's permissions. If you're using PM$ WinBlows then don't worry about setting this up, it's pointless. However, if you use a *nix OS have it at. No one will get their slimey paws on your objects. Now the cash is a totally different issue... -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jeremy Booker JTech Web Systems (www.JTechWebSystems.com -- Coming Soon) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [View Quote] filmkrFeb 20, 2002, 12:12am
Since you know no factual data nornny why not just keep your mouth shut?
Heartfall World Hosting is one of the largest most reliable hosting services around. http://worldhosting.heartfall.com It has been around for many years and hosts hundreds of extremely satisfied customers. The service they get is the the reason they refer so many of their friends. You just can't seem to help yourself from making comments can you? It's a shame you cannot post anything useful to readers other than those opinions. I posted replies because I was sick of the abusive nature people had in the world builders newsgroups. Kids like yourself who just like to flame rather than offer anything of value. If you wish to see the things that the Heartfall group does for users view some of these pages. http://www.heartfall.com/grounds/ http://www.heartfall.com/unicorns/ http://www.heartfall.com/cobras/ http://www.heartfall.com/mechs/ http://avatars.heartfall.com We spend our time making new and innovative ways for people to make unique worlds like A!!usion , SouI <cap i and Serenity To show users what they can do other than flat worlds. We are always helping people 7 days a week. [View Quote] > Oh, I think you just haven't given this thread enough time. *wink* > > Well, I think the problem with Insanity's post was the non-professionalism > in the post itself, not in the site (although I do like alterlink's better). > What was so non-professional about it? He replied back to stupid comments. > In the process, he looked fairly stupid himself, and let the flamers know > that he was actually there to be targeted. Plus, he spammed the newsgroup 3 > or 4 times every month, it seemed. His approach in advertising his servers > was more door-salesman'ish, casual, even an attempt at friendliness (but > look where friendliness gets ya). That's not neccessarily a badthing, but it > sure backfired. When looking for a world server, I, the dumb consumer, looks > for less talking, more hosting. Get your point out, I'm not looking for an > acquantance. You basically have what I need or don't. It's like searching > for a free web host, you don't look for conversations with the web host, you > just need someone to put up your pages. Alterlinks posted the features, and > let us do the walking ourselves. Insanity tried to bs the newsgroup in > his/her posting. Honest hosting? That was a name of the thread for god sakes > (assuming insanity made up the post header, Outlook really screws me with > that find feature and deleting old messages). he tried to sell the server > rather than let the server try to sell itself. > > I hope some of this provides any insight on why I, at least, react > differently to this post than to others. The lesson being "If you want to > make a conversation about a product, you're bound to get one." > > Nornny > [View Quote] silencedFeb 20, 2002, 12:47am
Wow, yet another insightful post. Do tell why you're so much more mature
"filmkr." You seem to attack anyone and everyone who disagree's with you. And trust me, you're not professional. -silenced [View Quote] foxmccloudFeb 20, 2002, 12:49am
Please post that kind of things in the Spam newsgroup, not in community. Oops, there's no Spam newsgroup. Then just don't.
Fox Mc Cloud "filmkr" <nospam at privacy.com> a écrit dans le message news: 3C7303A9.4A7BCF54 at privacy.com... > Since you know no factual data nornny why not just keep your mouth shut? > Heartfall World Hosting is one of the largest most reliable hosting services > around. <Spam Snipped> It has been around for many years > and hosts hundreds of extremely satisfied customers. The service they get is the > the reason they refer so many of their friends. You just can't seem to help > yourself from making comments can you? It's a shame you cannot post anything > useful to readers other than those opinions. I posted replies because I was sick > of the abusive nature people had in the world builders newsgroups. Kids like > yourself who just like to flame rather than offer anything of value. If you wish > to see the things that the Heartfall group does for users view some of these > pages. <Spam Snipped> <Spam Snipped> > <Spam Snipped> <Spam Snipped> > <Spam Snipped> We spend our time making new and innovative ways > for people to make unique worlds like A!!usion , SouI <cap i and Serenity To > show users what they can do other than flat worlds. We are always helping > people 7 days a week. goober kingFeb 20, 2002, 3:27am
I must say, I always find it interesting the lengths to which Insanity
will go in order to plug his company. What is this, the fifth identity you've conjured up now? It always seems like as soon as someone even mentions the word "Heartfall", Insanity, in some form, is immediately on their backs about it. Obviously, he truly lives up to his name... [View Quote] > Since you know no factual data nornny why not just keep your mouth shut? > Heartfall World Hosting is one of the largest most reliable hosting services > around. http://worldhosting.heartfall.com It has been around for many years > and hosts hundreds of extremely satisfied customers. The service they get is the > the reason they refer so many of their friends. You just can't seem to help > yourself from making comments can you? It's a shame you cannot post anything > useful to readers other than those opinions. I posted replies because I was sick > of the abusive nature people had in the world builders newsgroups. Kids like > yourself who just like to flame rather than offer anything of value. If you wish > to see the things that the Heartfall group does for users view some of these > pages. http://www.heartfall.com/grounds/ http://www.heartfall.com/unicorns/ > http://www.heartfall.com/cobras/ http://www.heartfall.com/mechs/ > http://avatars.heartfall.com We spend our time making new and innovative ways > for people to make unique worlds like A!!usion , SouI <cap i and Serenity To > show users what they can do other than flat worlds. We are always helping > people 7 days a week. > > [View Quote] <snip> -- Goober King At least this insane one can keep his name straight! :P rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu katerineFeb 22, 2002, 7:13pm
Check my world (Ailleurs) and try to grab one of my models, avatars or
textures. You may understand what they mean with artwork protection. I still password protect my zips for double security but I am not sure if it is still needed. "jerme" <JerMe at nc.rr.com> wrote in news:3c72dc5a$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com: > SWE.. you're exactly right. If you cannot browse to your object path > (with IE or Netscape..) and view the textures and download the obj > files then the AW browser can't either. This means you can't really > use HTTP passwords. This is where roland could teach the AW browser to > read/understand/reply correctly to HTTP password challenges. > > Your best bet is to use a script of some sort to hide the actual path > of the OP. For example the path your users see would be > http://www.mywebsite.com/myOPscript.php?object=/avatars/myav.zip Now.. > that tells BS about where the OP is. I know it's on www.mywebsite.com > but not the specific location.. The actual objects could be stored in a > directory that is not made public by the web server, or even a directry > with permissions set so that only the user the script runs under has > access to the objects. That would prevent every except root and the > user that calles the script (could be the same user, the user that the > web server runs as, or any other specified user) from accessing the > objects. This arrangement allows for the security of the objects to be > handled by the OS's permissions. If you're using PM$ WinBlows then > don't worry about setting this up, it's pointless. However, if you use > a *nix OS have it at. No one will get their slimey paws on your > objects. > > Now the cash is a totally different issue... > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Jeremy Booker > JTech Web Systems > (www.JTechWebSystems.com -- Coming Soon) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [View Quote] |