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alterlinks

Feb 18, 2002, 4:19pm
- Professional world and bot hosting
- Unique features and services including artwork protection*
- Dedicated servers
- Reliable network based on Cisco systems
- SSL payment

- Free rwx
- Free backdrops
- Free textures
- Free e-mail account with anti-virus protection

And other goodies like a color converter (color into RWX, HTML and RGB
colors)

http://www.alterlinks.fr
(french)

http://www.alterlinks.fr/it/
(italian)

http://www.alterlinks.com
(us)

*Only for avatars, models and textures (except backdrop) directories

agent1

Feb 18, 2002, 4:49pm
[View Quote] Could you give a general description of how you "protect" artwork, please?


-Agent1

zeo toxion

Feb 18, 2002, 5:17pm
im guessing he puts passwords on them (like everyone else)

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moff piett

Feb 18, 2002, 5:33pm
Can't password textures though, I don't think.

zeo toxion

Feb 18, 2002, 5:58pm
actually he said directories which means people cant view the list from the
web...although thats pretty easy just by putting an index.html in there

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carolann

Feb 18, 2002, 6:24pm
Please excuse my naivete here-and believe me it doesn't offend me one bit
who posts his AW related services here, fee based or otherwise-but what is
the difference as to why this advertizement by alterlinks is accepted here
in the community area and the unbelievable reaction to Insanity's posts of a
couple weeks ago in "Worldbuilders", which of course was exactly what
Hosting, objects, etc is related to? This a real question, not an opening
for any other kind of reaction. Before posting this question I looked at
both sites and they both seem to be professionally done and attractive with
many options for an AW world owner that need to be mentioned somewhere if
anyone is ever to be able to take advantage of them.
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nornny11

Feb 18, 2002, 6:55pm
Oh, I think you just haven't given this thread enough time. *wink*

Well, I think the problem with Insanity's post was the non-professionalism
in the post itself, not in the site (although I do like alterlink's better).
What was so non-professional about it? He replied back to stupid comments.
In the process, he looked fairly stupid himself, and let the flamers know
that he was actually there to be targeted. Plus, he spammed the newsgroup 3
or 4 times every month, it seemed. His approach in advertising his servers
was more door-salesman'ish, casual, even an attempt at friendliness (but
look where friendliness gets ya). That's not neccessarily a badthing, but it
sure backfired. When looking for a world server, I, the dumb consumer, looks
for less talking, more hosting. Get your point out, I'm not looking for an
acquantance. You basically have what I need or don't. It's like searching
for a free web host, you don't look for conversations with the web host, you
just need someone to put up your pages. Alterlinks posted the features, and
let us do the walking ourselves. Insanity tried to bs the newsgroup in
his/her posting. Honest hosting? That was a name of the thread for god sakes
(assuming insanity made up the post header, Outlook really screws me with
that find feature and deleting old messages). he tried to sell the server
rather than let the server try to sell itself.

I hope some of this provides any insight on why I, at least, react
differently to this post than to others. The lesson being "If you want to
make a conversation about a product, you're bound to get one."

Nornny

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silenced

Feb 18, 2002, 8:12pm
Uh.. that's easy to get around such as taking the texture name and putting
it there with .jpg.

such as myhost.com/op/textures/this.jpg

No matter how much protection you have, that'll still be accessible if it's
accessible in AW.

-silenced

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jerme

Feb 18, 2002, 8:18pm
Yes, what 'silenced' says is true. Unless roland teaches AW how to use HTTP
passwords (the kind you set in apache's .htaccess files) the object path
will never be protected. Yes, you can hide the directory index in one of
two way - as any good *nix admin should know. (1. place an "index.html"
file in the directory, or (2. use Apache's indexing module and its
directives to disable the directory listings all together. I do the latter
for all my coustomers and do not consider it a "feature".

-J

A.K.A. 'JerMe'

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jeremy Booker
JTech Web Systems
(www.JTechWebSystems.com -- Coming Soon)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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sw chris

Feb 18, 2002, 8:52pm
That certainly is an interesting phenomenon. *raises eyebrows*

SW Chris

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lady jude

Feb 19, 2002, 2:08am
*fingers itching*

Just had to take this window of opportunity to thank Roland for all that he
has done over the years to protect our op's :o)

Still remember when all models, etc. were displayed and available in
anyone's cache.

Roland set out on a mission to mask them and to date only seq's and textures
need some work.

I know, I know.. there ARE ways to get around the ie: RAS files, but am
speaking for the average user who chooses not to spend endless hours on a
fools errand trying to figure out how to screw things up.

Thank you Roland










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silenced

Feb 19, 2002, 2:16am
It only takes a while to discover how things are stored in your cache.
After you figure it out, it takes mere seconds to grab a texture from an
object path in a world you've been at.

-silenced

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swe

Feb 19, 2002, 12:30pm
i believe u can get around most http passwords thingys by just adding the
link of the picture, to anyweb page...and if not, then i dont think they
will work on aw since it wont be able to download the pictures either
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jerme

Feb 19, 2002, 9:14pm
SWE.. you're exactly right. If you cannot browse to your object path (with
IE or Netscape..) and view the textures and download the obj files then the
AW browser can't either. This means you can't really use HTTP passwords.
This is where roland could teach the AW browser to read/understand/reply
correctly to HTTP password challenges.

Your best bet is to use a script of some sort to hide the actual path of the
OP. For example the path your users see would be
http://www.mywebsite.com/myOPscript.php?object=/avatars/myav.zip Now.. that
tells BS about where the OP is. I know it's on www.mywebsite.com but not the
specific location.. The actual objects could be stored in a directory that
is not made public by the web server, or even a directry with permissions
set so that only the user the script runs under has access to the objects.
That would prevent every except root and the user that calles the script
(could be the same user, the user that the web server runs as, or any other
specified user) from accessing the objects. This arrangement allows for the
security of the objects to be handled by the OS's permissions. If you're
using PM$ WinBlows then don't worry about setting this up, it's pointless.
However, if you use a *nix OS have it at. No one will get their slimey paws
on your objects.

Now the cash is a totally different issue...

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jeremy Booker
JTech Web Systems
(www.JTechWebSystems.com -- Coming Soon)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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filmkr

Feb 20, 2002, 12:12am
Since you know no factual data nornny why not just keep your mouth shut?
Heartfall World Hosting is one of the largest most reliable hosting services
around. http://worldhosting.heartfall.com It has been around for many years
and hosts hundreds of extremely satisfied customers. The service they get is the
the reason they refer so many of their friends. You just can't seem to help
yourself from making comments can you? It's a shame you cannot post anything
useful to readers other than those opinions. I posted replies because I was sick
of the abusive nature people had in the world builders newsgroups. Kids like
yourself who just like to flame rather than offer anything of value. If you wish
to see the things that the Heartfall group does for users view some of these
pages. http://www.heartfall.com/grounds/ http://www.heartfall.com/unicorns/
http://www.heartfall.com/cobras/ http://www.heartfall.com/mechs/
http://avatars.heartfall.com We spend our time making new and innovative ways
for people to make unique worlds like A!!usion , SouI <cap i and Serenity To
show users what they can do other than flat worlds. We are always helping
people 7 days a week.


[View Quote] > Oh, I think you just haven't given this thread enough time. *wink*
>
> Well, I think the problem with Insanity's post was the non-professionalism
> in the post itself, not in the site (although I do like alterlink's better).
> What was so non-professional about it? He replied back to stupid comments.
> In the process, he looked fairly stupid himself, and let the flamers know
> that he was actually there to be targeted. Plus, he spammed the newsgroup 3
> or 4 times every month, it seemed. His approach in advertising his servers
> was more door-salesman'ish, casual, even an attempt at friendliness (but
> look where friendliness gets ya). That's not neccessarily a badthing, but it
> sure backfired. When looking for a world server, I, the dumb consumer, looks
> for less talking, more hosting. Get your point out, I'm not looking for an
> acquantance. You basically have what I need or don't. It's like searching
> for a free web host, you don't look for conversations with the web host, you
> just need someone to put up your pages. Alterlinks posted the features, and
> let us do the walking ourselves. Insanity tried to bs the newsgroup in
> his/her posting. Honest hosting? That was a name of the thread for god sakes
> (assuming insanity made up the post header, Outlook really screws me with
> that find feature and deleting old messages). he tried to sell the server
> rather than let the server try to sell itself.
>
> I hope some of this provides any insight on why I, at least, react
> differently to this post than to others. The lesson being "If you want to
> make a conversation about a product, you're bound to get one."
>
> Nornny
>
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silenced

Feb 20, 2002, 12:47am
Wow, yet another insightful post. Do tell why you're so much more mature
"filmkr." You seem to attack anyone and everyone who disagree's with you.
And trust me, you're not professional.

-silenced

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foxmccloud

Feb 20, 2002, 12:49am
Please post that kind of things in the Spam newsgroup, not in community. Oops, there's no Spam newsgroup. Then just don't.

Fox Mc Cloud

"filmkr" <nospam at privacy.com> a écrit dans le message news: 3C7303A9.4A7BCF54 at privacy.com...
> Since you know no factual data nornny why not just keep your mouth shut?
> Heartfall World Hosting is one of the largest most reliable hosting services
> around. <Spam Snipped> It has been around for many years
> and hosts hundreds of extremely satisfied customers. The service they get is the
> the reason they refer so many of their friends. You just can't seem to help
> yourself from making comments can you? It's a shame you cannot post anything
> useful to readers other than those opinions. I posted replies because I was sick
> of the abusive nature people had in the world builders newsgroups. Kids like
> yourself who just like to flame rather than offer anything of value. If you wish
> to see the things that the Heartfall group does for users view some of these
> pages. <Spam Snipped> <Spam Snipped>
> <Spam Snipped> <Spam Snipped>
> <Spam Snipped> We spend our time making new and innovative ways
> for people to make unique worlds like A!!usion , SouI <cap i and Serenity To
> show users what they can do other than flat worlds. We are always helping
> people 7 days a week.

goober king

Feb 20, 2002, 3:27am
I must say, I always find it interesting the lengths to which Insanity
will go in order to plug his company. What is this, the fifth identity
you've conjured up now? It always seems like as soon as someone even
mentions the word "Heartfall", Insanity, in some form, is immediately on
their backs about it. Obviously, he truly lives up to his name...

[View Quote] > Since you know no factual data nornny why not just keep your mouth shut?
> Heartfall World Hosting is one of the largest most reliable hosting services
> around. http://worldhosting.heartfall.com It has been around for many years
> and hosts hundreds of extremely satisfied customers. The service they get is the
> the reason they refer so many of their friends. You just can't seem to help
> yourself from making comments can you? It's a shame you cannot post anything
> useful to readers other than those opinions. I posted replies because I was sick
> of the abusive nature people had in the world builders newsgroups. Kids like
> yourself who just like to flame rather than offer anything of value. If you wish
> to see the things that the Heartfall group does for users view some of these
> pages. http://www.heartfall.com/grounds/ http://www.heartfall.com/unicorns/
> http://www.heartfall.com/cobras/ http://www.heartfall.com/mechs/
> http://avatars.heartfall.com We spend our time making new and innovative ways
> for people to make unique worlds like A!!usion , SouI <cap i and Serenity To
> show users what they can do other than flat worlds. We are always helping
> people 7 days a week.
>
>
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<snip>


--
Goober King
At least this insane one can keep his name straight! :P
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

katerine

Feb 22, 2002, 7:13pm
Check my world (Ailleurs) and try to grab one of my models, avatars or
textures.
You may understand what they mean with artwork protection.

I still password protect my zips for double security but I am not sure if
it is still needed.



"jerme" <JerMe at nc.rr.com> wrote in
news:3c72dc5a$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> SWE.. you're exactly right. If you cannot browse to your object path
> (with IE or Netscape..) and view the textures and download the obj
> files then the AW browser can't either. This means you can't really
> use HTTP passwords. This is where roland could teach the AW browser to
> read/understand/reply correctly to HTTP password challenges.
>
> Your best bet is to use a script of some sort to hide the actual path
> of the OP. For example the path your users see would be
> http://www.mywebsite.com/myOPscript.php?object=/avatars/myav.zip Now..
> that tells BS about where the OP is. I know it's on www.mywebsite.com
> but not the specific location.. The actual objects could be stored in a
> directory that is not made public by the web server, or even a directry
> with permissions set so that only the user the script runs under has
> access to the objects. That would prevent every except root and the
> user that calles the script (could be the same user, the user that the
> web server runs as, or any other specified user) from accessing the
> objects. This arrangement allows for the security of the objects to be
> handled by the OS's permissions. If you're using PM$ WinBlows then
> don't worry about setting this up, it's pointless. However, if you use
> a *nix OS have it at. No one will get their slimey paws on your
> objects.
>
> Now the cash is a totally different issue...
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jeremy Booker
> JTech Web Systems
> (www.JTechWebSystems.com -- Coming Soon)
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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