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Jan 15, 2001, 12:11am

I'd hate to ask what this "experience" was...

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Goober King
AW Community - More weirdoes than you can shake a stick.rwx at!
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jan 15, 2001, 12:45am

Ain't buying it Fox, sorry. Someone who *happens* to type just like you,
sound just like you, and act just like you, just *happened* to hack in
and use your password to... post on the newsgroups?! Can't say I follow
the logic. Especially when you consider that this same person then had
the foresight to send me some nice little (albeit incoherent) tgrams
concerning my first reply to this thread. Better luck next time, Fox!

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Goober King
Maybe Nornny was right... it doesn't even know it...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jan 16, 2001, 1:47am

All this coming from a guy who refuses to use any capitalization or
punctuation whatsoever. Pot calling the kettle black, I'd say...

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Goober King
Thinks AWSchool needs to offer a Typing course :P
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jan 16, 2001, 11:49am

You don't get it, do you? None of you people who snagged 3.1 out of turn
get it. There's a *reason* it's called a "beta" test. It's because it's
not ready to be released yet. That means BUGS! The *only* reason anyone
should have/use the beta is to find out why it's not working and find
out where the bugs are. That's the idea. But so many people are so damn
impatient that they DL the beta just so they can have it before everyone
else, and then they whine and wonder why it doesn't work the way it
should. :P That's the *reason* why this beta test was closed in the
first place, because the last time so many incompetent people just *had*
to have the beta, that the beta NG was filled with crap and Roland
couldn't filter through it and find the actual useful information.

I agree with Roland in that this beta has been 10 times more productive
than the last. Just from reading the posts in the beta NGs, it's
actually full of *useful* info. No one asking the same questions a
billion times. No one whining about posting styles. (*ahem*) No one
yelling at any newbies, because there *are* no newbies. Frankly, I think
Roland should keep the beta closed until it's ready for official
release. However, I do think he should invite a few more people into his
Inner Circle. There are plenty more people I know of who can help in the
beta test that I have yet to see post in the beta NG. I'm *very* curious
as to what standards were used when deciding who was allowed in the
closed beta. I'm not suggesting that the people who are currently in the
beta aren't worthy; far from it. But there are quite a few other people
who aren't involved that I think should be. Anyone care to enlighten me
as to why? (who actually *knows* why)

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Goober King
Patience, young grasshopper...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jan 16, 2001, 10:19pm

I've decided to post my monthly article here in the newsgroup since
there's no feedback feature at AWNews.com yet. After all, what's the
point of stirring the virtual melting pot if you can't hear the screams?
:)

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Testing Beta

beta n. - Mostly working, but still under test; usu. used with `in':
`in beta'. In the Real World, systems (hardware or software) software
often go through two stages of release testing: Alpha and Beta. Beta
releases are generally made to a group of trusted customers.

Recently Roland, COF's lead programmer, decided to officially "close"
the closed beta test of AW 3.1 by restricting use of 3.1 to only those
people who were registered for the closed beta. Why? It was because
apparently a number of people had gotten their hands on 3.1 without
actually being in the beta program. And how did Roland know this? These
same people were bombarding him with emails and telegrams as to why this
or that didn't work properly!
My only question here is: What did these people expect? Didn't they
know what "beta" meant? Didn't they know that 3.1 wasn't a complete
program? Did they somehow think that "Oh, I know there's bugs in it, but
they won't happen to me"? Or were they simply too impatient to wait for
a full-fledged, working version of the program just so that they could
"see all the pretty lights"?
When I was first introduced to the concept of "beta", I learned that it
was something to be feared. If someone had told me they had a copy of
something like Photoshop 7, but it was only the beta version, I would
look at them as if they told me they had contracted leprosy. Even though
it may have all sorts of cool features, I would still avoid it like the
plague. Although it may have all the goodies, it also has the potential
to do damage to my system.
The possibility of a beta program permanently damaging your system is
higher than you may think. Just because the program works on the
in-house systems doesn't necessarily mean it will work on all systems.
This is the true purpose of the beta test. Not to give a select few a
sneak peak at new features, but to make sure it works on all systems!
Beta testers actually take a small risk in deciding to test a product,
because there's no real way of knowing how it will act. It may run
smoothly without a hitch, or it could do something horribly wrong and
the damage couldn't be undone.
Thankfully, I think Roland did the right thing this time by having a
closed beta. This not only guarantees that less people will be affected
if anything goes wrong, but also these are people who actually know what
they're getting into. Not only that, but Roland can now actually find
information fast and get things done in a timely manner, instead of
having to sift through a million pointless posts and redundant questions
by people who don't know any better.
But some people never learn, I guess. The addition of lighting and
moving objects was just too much for some people, and they had to have
it now! So they cheated a bit and were able to see AW 3.1 in all its
glory. Then it got yanked away from them, and they cried "What's the big
deal? We weren't hurting anything!" Unfortunately, what you were hurting
was Roland's ability to help those who were actually supposed to be in
the beta program by flooding him with your inane questions and
repetitive bug reports. And now it's been taken away from you because of
that.
I hope we can all learn something from this little escapade: Patience
is indeed a virtue. Yes, AW 3.1 may be the next greatest thing from COF,
and it may bring so many more possibilities to the virtual world. It may
even be, and dare I say it, a step in the right direction for COF!

But I can wait

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Goober King
"Oh, no! Beta!"
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jan 17, 2001, 12:37am

Heh, you of all people, should know why I still refer to them as "COF".
:)

But, for the benefit of those who may not know: Until they can prove to
me that they truly are a different company in the way they act and in
how they treat their customers, I shall always refer to them by their
old (real) name. A rose by any other name still has thorns.

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Goober King
Starting to think he needs a new line for that...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jan 17, 2001, 12:50am

Now this is interesting... where have I seen this style of writing
before?... Oh! I remember now! It was in those posts you claimed you
didn't write! Gee, has the big bad hacker taken over your account again
and posing as you?

I think what we have here, ladies and gentlemen, is a classic case of
multiple personality disorder. In a way, it's sort of a toned-down,
twisted version of the Hulk. As Agent Fox Mulder, he is a calm, fairly
coherent 10 yr old who likes to post on the NGs. But if something angers
him, he turns in to this stark-raving mad lunatic that's barely
comprehensible and lashes out at anyone in any way possible. He may not
even have any memories of what goes on in his "altered" state, which
might make him think that he didn't write those posts. This could
warrant further analysis... Anyone up for a case study? :)

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Goober King
Just curious... how exactly do you kill someone virtually?
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jan 21, 2001, 8:07pm

Here's another tip, Hyde: Try posting you messages in the BODY of your
message, not in the SUBJECT header. Do you see anyone else doing that?
Didn't think so.

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Goober King
Thinks AFM is something other than a leprechaun...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jan 17, 2001, 2:45pm

The problem with your so-called "style", Jeckyll, (hitherto, I shall
refer to this personality as "Jeckyll". I'm sure you can guess what the
other one is) is that it's almost impossible to comprehend what you're
saying, especially when you don't use punctuation correctly. (if at all)
Yes, it does stand out amongst other typing styles, (much like a severe
sinus headache) but it's hard to tell where one thought (if you can all
them that) stops and another begins. So if you ever want to be taken
seriously in any sort of text format community and not called a "twit",
"idiot", et al for the rest of your virtual days, I suggest you clean up
your writing so it can be understood. And for the love of cob, stop
cross-posting!!

Come to think of it, there's a few other people in here who could
benefit from some lessons in sentence structure... (*cough*nova*cough*)

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Goober King
Will he ever get the hint?!
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Feb 26, 2002, 7:07am

Swift, JBELL... Not only did you reply to a post that's over a year old,
but you crossposted it as well! Yer newsreader broken or something? :P

[View Quote] > my god.. are you serious? you really feel a need to say that.. jesus christ,
> grow some balls..
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Goober King
No one checks the date anymore...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jan 17, 2001, 8:58pm

That photo on your website would seem to dictate otherwise, mein
freund... try again!

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Goober King
AFM lives in the state of Denial, too...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jan 18, 2001, 12:50am

I'm guessing you were attempting to reply to my post, Hyde. I was
referring to the photograph you have posted on your website:
http://AgentMolder.com (the one Jeff Raven posted in a previous post)
From the looks of things, I'd say you were about 8 or so.

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Goober King
Can't wait to see what lie he'll use to cover this up...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jan 18, 2001, 11:56am

Then why the hell is the pic on your site? I realize it's a Radiskull
site and all that, but there are far more appropriate pictures to have
on your site than some strange kid holding a doll. Certainly doesn't
make you look very good. Then again, considering your site looks like a
massive jumble of nothing anyways, I guess it doesn't really matter,
does it? :P

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Goober King
Ever hear of the word "caption"?
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jan 17, 2001, 9:02pm

Good Lord... Maybe the reason people don't listen to you is because YOU
don't listen to THEM! Maybe if you actually type properly, they will
listen to you. Ever think of that? How about you try it for a week and
see what happens.

And for the last time, STOP CROSS-POSTING!

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Goober King
Abhors having to use all CAPS...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jan 18, 2001, 12:54am

Crossposting v. - The act of posting the same message on multiple
newsgroups at the same time. Usu. used when a message pertains to more
than one subject. Is NOT to be used to broadcast inane messages to the
entire world. People might... oh I don't know... report you for
harassment to your ISP or something.

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Goober King
What exactly are they teaching him in 4th grade?
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jan 18, 2001, 1:00am

One thing at a time, Nornny... one thing at a time... If he stops using
capitols all the time, we'll lay off him about it, k?

However, this doesn't mean he won't get smacked for crossposting or
posting irrelevant messages. So now that capitols are out of the way, we
are free to complain about everything else.

That is, of course, unless Jeckyll is willing to make a *few* more
posting style changes...

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Goober King
Baby steps, Bob... Baby steps...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jan 18, 2001, 12:03pm

Good good.... you're learning :)

Still, this idea sounds like an AWNews.com clone. Might want to talk to
Cyborganic and/or Nornny to see how it all works. Running a news site
ain't no easy task.

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Goober King
There IS hope, ladies and gentlemen!
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Feb 1, 2001, 6:46pm

Imagine that... actually going out to look for information instead of
pretending to know it already. What a concept! :P

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Goober King
Ignorance isn't bliss... it's just laziness.
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jan 28, 2001, 8:33pm

This coming from a person whose sole purpose for posting to these NGs is
to ruffle some feathers. I have yet to see you actually post anything
constructive or of importance to these NGs. Who's the one that needs a
life? *pats Lanezeri on the head*

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Goober King
They're so cute when they think they're cool...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jan 29, 2001, 4:29pm

If your life is so full and rich, why the hell are you even posting in
the first place? Since it's obvious you think the people in these NGs
are below you, why associate with them? Anyone who truly has a life
doesn't need to flaunt it, because it comes through in how they act and
think. It's the flakes and the fakes who think that they need to chant
"I have a life and you don't, so nyah!" because in actuality, the only
life they do have is trying to put down other people's lives. So please,
take your oh-so-superior life and, paraphrasing the great philosopher
Don Imus, "just get out". Let us commoners wallow in our own
inadequacies in peace. :P

And for the record, I check the NGs when I check my email. That's about
5-10 mins out of my day. Hardly what I would call "life-consuming".

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Goober King
Jobs and money does not a full life make...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Feb 1, 2001, 2:50pm

The problem isn't COF's lack of testicular fortitude, it's its lack of
interest in its customer base. It's painfully obvious that COF has zero
concern for the people who actually use their software, instead
concentrating solely on trying to impress big-namers in the quest for
funds. (Why do you think they're in such a rush to get 3.1 done?) They
simply figure "Eh, let the PKs handle it." Unfortunately, since PKs only
have jurisdiction in COF-owned worlds, they aren't all that effective.

A sad state of affairs, wouldn't you say?

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Goober King
Wonders if COF will EVER get the hint...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Feb 2, 2001, 2:03am

Perhaps you should have thought of all that, Just In, before you went on
a tirade and alienated FriendPa in the first place. Yes, they are your
objects and textures and you have the right to do what you please with
them. But that whole mess with FriendPa, as well as this incident with
Chucks Party, could have been handled *much* more tactfully and
respectfully. Maybe then you wouldn't have to worry about people ruining
your reputation. Perhaps next time you'll think about your effects on
others before you act upon them. One can only hope...

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Goober King
Learn from Eep: No one respects a dickhead.
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Feb 3, 2001, 1:00am

Down, boy down! Scum Just In may be, but please, at least think out your
rants before you post them. You'll sound much more intelligent that way.
:)

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Goober King
Mumbles something about "overactive 12 yr olds"...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jan 30, 2001, 2:39pm

Eep knows full well why he didn't get in the beta, and it has nothing to
do with his (in)ability to "run circles around Roland".

As for the gap problem, since it only occurs only out in the outer
regions of AW, (in the 5-digit coord areas) you need to have a sizable
world in order to see it. So you won't have to worry about it much in
the smaller, private worlds. I myself haven't tested it, but then, I
haven't built much in the outer regions either. With what little
programming experience I have, my guess is Roland just didn't allocate
enough significant digits for the coordinate system, so when you get
into the higher numbers, they get rounded off a lot higher. (That, I'm
assuming, is what he meant by "floating point rounding errors") But
considering how much resources AW already uses up, would allocating a
few more digits really help in terms of memory consumption? It adds up
after a while :-/

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Goober King
Could help if they had made the whole thing in JAVA... ;P
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Jan 31, 2001, 2:37am

That would be nice, except the only people who can post in the Beta NG
are the people who are already *on* the beta test! A bit of a
paradoxical situation, wouldn't you say? :P

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Goober King
Mmmm.... Paradoxes...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Feb 3, 2001, 5:50am

Perhaps they were mistakenly talking about WorldsChat? :)

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Goober King
Still pretty silly...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Feb 3, 2001, 1:15am

This post would've been useful if Roland actually *read* this newsgroup.
As it is, he's probably already got you in his filter list by now. :P

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Goober King
E-mail: Direct Communication...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Feb 3, 2001, 5:49am

Here's a tip chief. It's called "Word Wrap". Use it.

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Goober King
This one was too obvious, even for him.
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Feb 3, 2001, 3:53pm

No offense, Wing, but that's pretty sad... I hope yer "lover" doesn't
read these NGs. *smirk*

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Goober King
Hell hath no fury like a computer scorned?
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Feb 6, 2001, 1:26am

Ok, people. We've managed to reform the likes of Col Klink and The
Derek. What's say we work on nova now?

If we've said it before, we've said it a million times:
1. Punctuation!
2. Capitalization! (*Correct* Capitalization)
3. Coherence!

Learn it. Type it. Live it.

I got maybe two sentences (if you can even call them that) into your
post before I just said "Screw it!" I can hardly tell where one thought
ends and another begins! Is it really that hard?!

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Goober King
Some people are beyond hope... then there's nova.
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

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