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eep // User SearchWho's up for Newsgroup Survivor?Apr 28, 2001, 11:19pm
You people must not read the other AW newsgroups much. I posted in worldbuilder and wishlist this week...
[View Quote] > Maybe he took the hint and started posting a lot less often. People should make up their minds... > [View Quote] SG-1 world?Apr 30, 2001, 12:24am
I was in AWshow world the other day and saw a picture and sign with SG-1 world on it as one of AW's "showoff" worlds but it said it's a private world and, of course, wasn't even in the world list (and hasn't for days now). I was wondering if anyone here had ever been into it or even seen it listed? I'd like to check it out. Who owns it? AWCI is no help (as usual).
SG-1 world?Apr 30, 2001, 2:24am
Well, I've found many Stargate/DHD objects but they're WAY too complex for real-time rendered environments like AW. One was 400,000 polygons--uh...no. Plus they're not based on actual specs/dimensions/blueprints so they're just guesses (sure, most look damn good, but still...). I've been looking for actual measurements for months now and have only been able to find an approximate diameter of 20-22', which doesn't help much. I've emailed MGM, Showtime, and various 3D model creators, game level designers, scale model sites/artists, Stargate movie propmakers, etc, etc, but no help. I just can't believe it's this much work to get such information!
I have a crappy Stargate and DHD in Hole world just west of GZ if anyone's interested. It even works (teleports to Cubed). [View Quote] > I'd be interested to see that myself...I just downloaded a crapload of > Stargate objects from...uhhh...some damn site I can't remember now LOL...but > I have the objects (some COB, some LWO) if you want them :-) > [View Quote] SG-1 world?Apr 30, 2001, 2:25am
You know I'm impatient...but I had also telegrammed Rick and John C. (whoever) but they were no help...
[View Quote] > Eep - i tried to find out, as you had asked me - i didnt have time to do so > on Friday when you did, was going to check it out for you on Monday - dont > be so impatient =P > [View Quote] SG-1 world?Apr 30, 2001, 8:51pm
Thanks. After probing Josh C. for more info, it seems Fandom couldn't get a license for Stargate SG-1 (what SG-1 world is based on, for those who don't know) and so had to close the world. Seems odd Fandom would request a world created based on something they don't have a license to, but whatever... And it's not in Fandom's universe either (which is dead for all intents and purposes--no surprise to me since I don't agree with the other-universe idea--too inconvienent to access other universes, etc).
Anyway, after I get my Stargate and DHD finished I'd like to create a network of Stargate-linked worlds (basically just teleports to other worlds). I would give away the Stargate and DHD models/textures/sounds to those who would like to participate, of course. I'm still working out all the details of how it would work (cell data considerations, would a bot need to control the process, etc), so stay tuned... [View Quote] > I asked E N Z O about it a few days ago, and he told me that they did it for > Fandom. Thats all i know :-). > [View Quote] Any ideas on what this is?May 2, 2001, 7:13am
Isn't it neat how AW works as intended? There is no problem here except for your lack of understanding what "file not found" means. Have you tried to go to these URLs in a web browser? They don't exist. AW is simply reporting the obvious.
[View Quote] > I went into AW tonight and then Wildaw and was greeted by the following > messages from the Building Inspector. I tried rebooting but I still had > the same problem. Anyone else experience this or have any idea why it is > happening? > > Warning: unable to download > objects.activeworlds.com/aw/textures/.jpg (file not found) > Warning: unable to download > objects.activeworlds.com/aw/textures/tree10m.zip (file not found) > Warning: unable to download > objects.activeworlds.com/aw/textures/tree10.jpg (file not found) > > Warning: unable to download > objects.activeworlds.com/wildaw/textures/.jpg (file not found) Website asking for AW password (eeps website)May 11, 2001, 11:35pm
Lara owns it, actually, but I have no control over the form results since they are sent to Rick (Enzo) and not me. If anyone would intercept the email it would be tnlc.com's server or some router in between, but who would give a shit? That vote has been finished for years, too, but I just haven't bothered to take it down or change it. The other non-secure vote has been much more popular.
[View Quote] > It's IMPOSSIBLE with that HTML implementation for anything to be collected directly from the HTML. Eep does not own that server to > my knowledge, it is provided by a hosting company. [View Quote] Website asking for AW password (eeps website)May 12, 2001, 12:00pm
What the hell is a SNERT anyway?
[View Quote] > I'd trust Eep a long time before I trusted most people in AW. > Just my .02 > > PS- If Eep's a SNERT then he's got to be my favorite one... ;-) [View Quote] Website asking for AW password (eeps website)May 12, 2001, 5:07pm
At the time there WAS a reason--to show Rick that we were serious about voting.
[View Quote] > i dont care who it gies to there is no reason to give your password for a > vote!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [View Quote] Letter to AWCIMay 14, 2001, 6:03pm
There have always been twits in AW and in these newsgroups; there are just more of them lately...
[View Quote] > Eep is right - there ARE twits on AW these days - > [View Quote] wahhhMay 14, 2001, 6:06pm
You're not helping raise this newsgroup's maturity level with this shit, Moff...
[View Quote] > wah.... *crys* just when I think things couldn't get worse.. aiyah! wahhhMay 14, 2001, 7:54pm
I don't do that. However, I DO get pissed off when AWCI implements things most people didn't ask for or want. Get your facts straight, Moff.
[View Quote] > Sorry, I forgot to bitch and swear and act like an idiot when a feature I > want wasn't implimented. I'll try to be more mature like you eep. > [View Quote] wahhhMay 14, 2001, 7:56pm
You seem confused (and hipocritical), Moff. I suggest you reread what you babbled below and think about why I think you are these things.
[View Quote] > ar, sorry, But this is really bugging me. eep, you are the LAST person in > this entire ng save jfk2 to even mention the word maturity. All you do is > bitch and complain in these NGs. Sometimes you make an ok point about a > badly implemented feature, or some other cock up by awcom, but the way you > do it leaves most everyone simply shaking their heads thinking "what a > little shit". Don't talk about maturity untill you grow up a little your > self. I've never heard you say a single positive thing in years. It's > always "rolands a stupid fuck" this or "so and so is a fucking loser" that. > I don't think there is a single person on this NG that's pulled it down and > started more pointless swearing matches above the age of 15 than you eep. > So don't you ever talk of "helping the NG" and "maturity". > > What's next, chucks party jumping on people for long winded pointless > posts? Uh, seems 80% of these posts are nothing but bickering about > previous posts about bickering. And here I am bickering back... I don't > usualy enjoy this sort of thing, but eeps comment was so hypocritical I just > couldn't take it. Sorry. > > And sorry eep to use such language, I really don't have that much against > you, just wish you'd be a little... nicer. Acting how you do does not > improve things. You can swear and bitch about what you want changed, but > untill you address it in a polite and calm manner you'll get little done but > be added to people's filters. You have many great ideas, and for aw's sake > it would be a shame to have them all lost in the negative rage that is eep. Dreamlandpark picture inside!May 16, 2001, 2:56am
Yep, and other universes too. I still don't think separate universes is the right idea--at least not with a MUCH more easier way to travel between them. Universes should be as traversible as worlds are. Perhaps AWCI will get a clue one day when they actually think of their customers as business worth holding onto.
[View Quote] > Could they be THAT desperate for citizens To FactorMay 16, 2001, 2:41am
While I agree nayr is acting like a twit (not in your words, but is what you're getting at), I don't believe the eventual banning of him/her/it is the way to go. Simply filter the twit and ignore it and it'll go away. Did my actions not teach you (and others) anything about how to deal with similar (tho much worse and MUCH more constantly and consistently immature) twits?
nayr, Chuck, jfk2 (whatever), etc, are simply seeking attention for their low self-esteem, attention-deprived (and attention-hungry) pathetic lives. Why do you think such people make so much of an effort to BE lame in these newsgroups? Because they have no life off-line. It's like Kyle 1 who has been bugging me lately trying to be my friend, etc. He's young, lonely, and needs attention. This is common among adolescant males and is usually the cause of a lack of a father figure in their lives. It's basic pop psychology. So, kids, start understanding why you act the way you do and perhaps you'll piss off less people and not make yourself look like a fool. [View Quote] > Dear Factor, > Will AW please look at the posting abuse of citizen n a y r and inform him > of the posting policies for this NG? It's past the point of frivolous > posting. Also, this is not Dreamland Park. We all know about it and if we > wanted to be citizens there we would. To FactorMay 16, 2001, 4:36am
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> I didn't ask AW to ban them or anyone though. I asked that they inform them
> of the posting policies of this NG. But that's where it'll lead to if Facter (or AWCI) enforces their so-called "charter". > Also, hopefully make them realize this > isn't Dreamland Parks Uniservers NG. IMHO it borders on spam since it isn't > AW Community related. You know me, I wouldn't complain if it had only been > one, maybe two posts on it all. Posting 7-8 times in a row with no real > topic or as a reply is abuse to me. I just want the *twits* umm *SNERTS*... > educated. Sigh, I know, it didn't work to try to educate the recent round of > children in here either. Never worked with you either ;-P~ *Looks for > Xav's flame proof jacket.. hmmm must still be around here someplace...Daphne > dear, do you have it?* (In defense just remember who the person was that was > very against the vote to remove you from this NG. ) > > A thought - Since this seems to be getting more out of control lately AW > could at least put up a site with this type of information. A great source > would be from a book called : Internet & computer ethics for kids ( and > parents & teachers that don't haven't got a clue) > http://www.nicekids.net/indexf.htm I am also requesting that posting in > HTML be prohibited. > > Of course you're right, filtering the *twits* and everyone ignoring them > works too... peer pressure. .... that reminds me of how the citizens used to > deal with *twits* in the days before PK's etc. As I recall it worked well. > Unfortunately in here it doesn't seem to be as effective and I am asking > everyone that sees continual abuse to report the offender to their ISP. If > enough people turn someone in they will eventually lose their Internet > connection. Hopefully they will have learned their lesson once they get a > new one. Well, most, if not all, ISPs don't give a shit what people post in newsgroups since their disclaimers and terms of service (TOS)/acceptible use policies (AUP) remove liability from the ISP and place it onto the user. ISPs really only listen to spam complaints and even then they don't seem to do much, if anything. (Sure, they have auto-responding emails to make the spam reporter feel better, but I've never seen any evidence of a spammer being shut down and I've been reporting them for years.) Anyway, what these brats need is firm negative response to their immaturity--much like what a father figure would do. Once they see they can't get away with this shit they'll either change (and perhaps become more mature) or simply go away. Shine the mirror back onto them so they see their true image and perhaps they'll be repulsed by what they see. Herrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre's Johny!!!May 17, 2001, 8:16pm
Feel free to clear yourself (a true idiot) from this newsgroup at your earliest convienence, twitfuck.
[View Quote] > P.S. I see that (in)Active Worlds has not done anything to clear the idiots > from this newsgroup. Herrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre's Johny!!!May 18, 2001, 5:22pm
Idiot...
[View Quote] > As no one has yet seen fit to welcome you back, I'll do it myself wb Marcus. > I will probably disagree with your every post but at least I will try do it > in a logical and civilised way. > [View Quote] Herrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre's Johny!!!May 19, 2001, 2:25am
Yo, immature newbie twitfuck, email shit like this; it has no place in a public forum. Attempt to evolve, champ.
[View Quote] > YO!!!! Pete.... you know that thing you & I discussed about... > I'm willing to do it right now... It has happened to me now... lolol > the same thing that happened to Chuck a few weeks earlier.... You > remember.... Now i have the same problems... But mine is more interesting... > I can still host no problems.... And i can still do this.... CP could still > do this as well... lolol.... SO I'm willing if you are. lollol!!!!! > > petehetherington <nobby at nobcol.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in > <3b052acd at server1.Activeworlds.com>: > 3.2?!?!?May 21, 2001, 3:07am
Um, just because Roland claimed he didn't notice any framerate increase with T&L doesn't mean it hasn't been implemented. Supposedly T&L IS supported in the next RW3.x release which will supposedly be in AW 3.2. Roland doesn't notice many things but that doesn't mean such things still don't happen and/or aren't improved...
[View Quote] > after what I've heard (I guess the origin was a TechTalk) Roland has tryed > to implement that special GeForce stuff, but he sayd he didn't notice any > difference, therefore one can assume that he didn't succesfully implement > it... > [View Quote] Backdrops for new versionMay 21, 2001, 5:38pm
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[View Quote] > Moria!!! gosh....some one intelligent in this NG :o)) ( and she can spell > too) Gotta Love Those "Customer" Interests...May 21, 2001, 3:11am
What I don't get is why NT4 can't run DirectX 7, which I had running FINE with 4x4 Evo about 6 months ago...
[View Quote] > Count one NT for me. NT is still the most popular professional > windows in germany, the newer ones had (and still have) a very > bad press in most technical PC magazines. > [View Quote] Gotta Love Those "Customer" Interests...May 21, 2001, 5:48pm
450 citizens = $9000. If you're smart you won't simply brush them off, or the 1250 citizens ($25,000) who want particular features implemented. In case you haven't noticed, AW doesn't have that many citizens (currently "over 40,000") according to unproven universe stats (http://activeworlds.com/company/statistics.html). Now, granted, most people can't agree on what should be implemented first, but why does a single "user" (company, most likely) worth $25,000 dictate AW's development when MANY more $20 users are using AW MUCH more often and to a greater technical/creative degree? Where's the logic in that other than greed?
If anything you (AWCI) should be listening to older and more experienced AW users--people who KNOW AW better than AWCI does for the most part, including Roland--for AW's development future. Money doesn't make one intelligent or knowledgeable enough to know what features should be implemented next. [View Quote] > Tell ya what, lets look at it another way:) > > whats it worth to have specific customer mods done for you? > > Lets face it $20 a year is dirt cheap, and you get loads of features that > more than compensate for that $20. > > EQ is $10 a month, and they dont listen to their users either, just the > corporates, and they are right mainly, its not a single user product:). > > How about we make the citizenship a reasonable amount... > > lets say you go in once a week, and lets say you spend $3 a week on > something you like like a beer or a magazine? > > thats 52 x $3 for a weeks entertainment which is $156 a year. more > reasonable?? > > lets say you buy 2 mags a week or go for a couple of beers.. maybe $300 a > year > > Yep. lets go for splitting it at $360 a year or $30 a month.. now at > those rates, the user base may be worth listening to. Although hardly, it > would need a majority to make it worth while. Remember though, it still > needs 30 citizens to equal the cost of the cheapest uniserver at $360 a year > citizenship. at $20 a year citizenship it needs 500 citizens. > > Do you honestly think that someone who buys one beer a week is gonna be > listened to if they say.. hey I think you should change the recipie? > > Do you think they should? > > Do you think that someone who buys 365 beers a year should be listened to? > who knows. > > What I can tell you is that in the corporate stakes $20 a year is zip. > nada.. nothing. A single license of $25,000 a year is listened to. > > So if you want the power, you gotta pay the price. > > You want stuff.. then money where mouth is.. pay up.. buy a big universe > or pay for amendments.. trust me with money you wont have a problem:) > > Even if all the current users in this newsgroup said unanimously we want > abc.. 15-20 votes from a user base of some thousands is hardly a mind > blowing proportion. > > However, what I would suggest is that if you really think you have something > that a real majority would like, and I mean something worth a thousand or so > votes.. by all means run a campaign for it:) Hell if I like it I'd support > it, but you gotta get a groundswell up front, and thats gotta be a lot > bigger than this small group in here:) > > As to getting new objects into the OP, how many have you sent? > > PS not having a go, just trying to get some realisation into this select > group of 15 we have here that $20 a year does not buy the company. it > allows you to use a product as is:) > > However if you want to campaign for no citizen fee lets do that as well..In > some ways I agree with you.. lets drop the $20 but also lets drop the rest > that you get for that.. building under a cit number, telegrams, contact > lists etc etc .. lets just all be tourists then as you say its not a > problem, leave all that citizenship rubbish for the corporates who pay for > it:) > > Remember, if it comes to getting 450 citizens to renew, or getting 1 person > to buy the cheapest uniserver, the change for 1 uniserver sale is going to > shout louder than a single change that 450 citizens agree on:) Gotta Love Those "Customer" Interests...May 21, 2001, 8:50pm
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Did you miss when Rolu created his "Frequently Wished Wishes List"? He tallied votes for various things and everything. Did AWCI pay attention? Nope. Well, Rolu's long gone now and I've had my AW improvements page (http://tnlc.com/eep/aw/improve.html in case you didn't know or "forgot") for years now, which is based off Rolu's list and THE List™ (Roland's). Want a list? Open your fucking eyes...
> to help them out. First with 3.1 and now with 3.2, the browser is having a > couple of features implemented and then getting released. Some of the major > features that people want might require a huge rewrite of most of the > browser and some of the uniserver code, but once they're done, people will > be happy that there were changes made that meant more than just being able > to use OpenGL or use AW behind a firewall. > have some important features requested from the citizens (as well as any > corporate requests). > > Well, thats what many of *us* hope as well. Frankly, the firewall & OpenGL > stuff *will* come in so much handy, because it DOES affect a *huge* portion > of the user-base, not a tiny fraction like some people would like to think. > But I, personally, hope for different features in the next version as well. > I see 3.2 as a technical upgrade, kind of like 3.0 was - 3.1 was more about > features than anything....so...yup. And yes, alot of the most wanted > features would involve a huge re-write I guess... "I guess..."--you don't even know, Facter. Have you even talked to Roland about these so-called rewrites? I doubt it. You, I, and just about anyone else who knows what's going on knows that Rick and JP DICTATE (root word of "dictator", by the way) to Roland what to add to AW in the next version. And the elite fiew with lots of money (universe server customers) dictate to Rick and JP what they want. You guys don't give a shit about the BULK of your user base who actually use AW every day and FAR more intensely than uniserver customers or even AWCI itself. Now then, who do you think has a better idea of what should be added to AW? Think about it... Not even Roland uses AW enough to know--and he's the god damn lead programmer! That's just pathetic... Gotta Love Those "Customer" Interests...May 21, 2001, 9:00pm
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So, that still doesn't mean that 1 customer has the right to dictate AW's developmental direction.
> In case you haven't noticed, AW doesn't have that many citizens (currently > "over 40,000") according to unproven universe stats > (http://activeworlds.com/company/statistics.html). Now, granted, most people > can't agree on what should be implemented first, but why does a single > "user" (company, most likely) worth $25,000 dictate AW's development when > MANY more $20 users are using AW MUCH more often and to a greater > technical/creative degree? Where's the logic in that other than greed? > > The logic is survival. to get one payment of $25k as opposed to hundreds at > $20 makes for a much more secure and cost effective route and a firmer > foundation for the future, and as has been proved in the past, even if 450 > people ask for something and the company says no, only a trivial minority > will actually stop paying for it, so the hurt rate will be a lot less than > 450 losses. That just proves AWCI is only in it for the money and that it couldn't give a shit about its EXISTING customers. Once they get that $25K they probably won't listen to that customer any more than they listen to their existing so-called "over 40,000 unique paid users". Open your eyes, Moria. > > In case you hadn't noticed eep, I am nothing to do with AWCI, or even AWCOM, > as you know. Well, I don't keep track of what your affiliations are month-to-month. You USED to work for then-COF (and perhaps AWCI) and you seem to be supporting them, so I'm talking to you as if you ARE working for them. Deal with it. > > That should read people who THINK they know AW better... I've proven Roland wrong MANY times regarding what AW can do. > intelligent or knowledgeable enough to know what features should be > implemented next. > > Agreed, money or lack of it has never been a proven intelligence guide, but > money does make decisions in everything. even down to I'm not gonna be a > citizen, its a rip off when asked for $20 :)) Maybe thats intelligent, > maybe not, but it happens. Maybe it also doesn't warrant making developmental decisions. > The people that have been here longest don't always know whats best for the > future as aims and directions change. (see the silly protests about not > paying for citizenship when if it hadn't happened the whole of AW would have > closed. gone forever.) Yes, but let's also consider then-COF saying AW would ALWAYS be free in that now-deleted I-forget-the-name-now (Trans-something perhaps) world chat log. Oh how quickly (and convienently) we (you and AWCI, really) forget, Moria... > I am not saying they are wrong, but most users dont have a global view of > what's needed for survival or whats happening across an entire company, much > though they might think they do. I know I don't know what the best thing > for AW is right now, but I believe its to head out into the corporate > market. I do know that many users see their own little world in AW or their > own needs and think thats the most important thing that has to happen in AW > when in fact its pretty trivial really:) > > A few people asking for a new feature for free is ALWAYS gonna take second > place to a company saying we'll pay for what we want in every case. For free? Perhaps you missed the $20/year those people are paying. And, again, what if $25K worth of citizens (1250) ask? > The real world is not a charity. No reason to contribute to that delinquancy... > I believe that AWCOM does a good job of trying to balance all the demands it > has, but I know for a fact that if I came along with a large license fee > sale, I would expect to get a much better response.. and surprisingly.. > thats what happens:) And is precisely what should NOT happen. If this didn't just apply to the corporate world I wouldn't feel so passionate about it, but it also happens to the political world. Money is simply evil. Gotta Love Those "Customer" Interests...May 22, 2001, 7:06pm
Oh good, then you can make citizenship free again...
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Gee, and why do you think that is, Facter? Let me tell you: people in here (the newsgroups) learn the TRUTH about AW and AWCI. Most people who email you for "support" probably have NO clue as to AW's history, development, employees, etc, etc, etc. YOU are the minority in AWCI of employees who "listen" to us (users/customers) and actually respond. Please, wake up and get a clue and then try to pass that clue onto your "superiors".
Gotta Love Those "Customer" Interests...May 22, 2001, 7:13pm
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> tallied votes for various things and everything. Did AWCI pay attention?
> Nope. Well, Rolu's long gone now and I've had my AW improvements page > (http://tnlc.com/eep/aw/improve.html in case you didn't know or "forgot") > for years now, which is based off Rolu's list and THE ListT (Roland's). Want > a list? Open your fucking eyes... > > Maybe if you wernt such a pain Eep, and wernt so pushy, and obnixious, > people here and around the community *would* actually pay more attention to > you and your suggestions. Just a word of free advice mate. > about these so-called rewrites? I doubt it. You, I, and just about anyone > else who knows what's going on knows that Rick and JP DICTATE (root word of > "dictator", by the way) to Roland what to add to AW in the next version. And > the elite fiew with lots of money (universe server customers) dictate to > Rick and JP what they want. You guys don't give a shit about the BULK of > your user base who actually use AW every day and FAR more intensely than > uniserver customers or even AWCI itself. Now then, who do you think has a > better idea of what should be added to AW? Think about it... Not even Roland > uses AW enough to know--and he's the god damn lead programmer! That's just > pathetic... > > ..another reason no one takes you seriously is because you cant make a > comment without bringing the "Dark side" into it, or insulting people. You > dont work here, you dont know these people, you dont go to the meetings, and > you have absolutly NO idea as to what goes on here except the fantasies you > concoct in your mind, so you cant even begin to comment on anything here, > and, its far from a dictatorship Eep - you live in fantasy land... > > As I said, stop being so obnoxious and maybe one day someone will pay you > the attention you may one day actually earn.... Perhaps you missed my AW history page, Facter (you seem to miss a lot...). http://tnlc.com/eep/aw/history.html (this time read it) and learn WHY I'm such a "pain", "pushy", and "obnoxious". Read and learn and just TRY to put yourself in my place. If AWCI didn't continually act incompetent I wouldn't have to BE such a "pain". Think about it... > Gees, why did I even bother to reply to you. Because it's your job? Gotta Love Those "Customer" Interests...May 23, 2001, 11:05am
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> Look we know they're dipshits but (1) Greed drives business and (2) they don't listen to guys like you because you're OFFENSIVE. That, and clueless. :)
Uh huh...that's why MANY of my suggestions have and are already being implemented into AW, eh? You're the clueless one, Russ. You've been out of the AW loop for years now. > Plus it's easier to listen to 1 or 2 people than a bunch. To listen to a bunch you really have to go out there and interact. Actually that's what I used to do once upon a time, Ron would ask how I thought people would react to something and I'd already have a pretty good idea but I'd fire up Powwow and ask Littlebull and a bunch of others... But it is unusual for a software company (or anyone really) to be actually using its own product. What kind of idiot doesn't use its own product? That's like saying car companies don't drive their own cars. If you don't even use your own product you don't deserve trying to make other do so! [View Quote] Gotta Love Those "Customer" Interests...May 23, 2001, 7:41pm
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> http://tnlc.com/eep/aw/history.html (this time read it) and learn WHY I'm
> such a "pain", "pushy", and "obnoxious". Read and learn and just TRY to put > yourself in my place. If AWCI didn't continually act incompetent I wouldn't > have to BE such a "pain". Think about it... > > Read it many times, and, your whole view is skewed. And how is that? This oughta be good for a laugh... > > No, it is not my job to reply to you in anything other than email Eep - I do > this out of simple courtesy to you, and the other users. > > Please keep that in mind mate. Oh I do, "mate". I keep in mind that you know how to actually DEAL with "customers" and not brush them off like your inept employers do. Perhaps you could teach them a thing or two about social interaction, hmm? |