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This is Getting Old // Community77Nov 14, 2005, 6:21am
are they not allowing them any more ? it seemed awful empty at GZ when I was
there last. [View Quote] tart sugarNov 14, 2005, 11:13am
They are allowed into AW. They just can't build in AW.
So what they do instead is stay in The Gate and argue. We try to get them to go explore, but all they want to do is build a house. (Or kill another avatar.) hehehe Tourists can't build anywhere without danger of getting their builds deleted by somebody. Plz correct me if I'm wrong and there is a world that protects tourist builds. If AW would designate an area for tourist building somehow, like maybe 29,000n 29,000e we might see tourists in AW more often. [View Quote] orbNov 14, 2005, 12:19pm
I don't mean just in Alpha World.. I think they ought to be able to move
freely about in all worlds to TOUR. Not to build. If world owners should be charged a fee then it should only be applied to tourists that want to build. Tourists put a little chaos in the order, we realize that, and it's enough to bring life and balance to the sterility we have about us now. Citizens and world owners by the numbers are getting disenchanted by costs put on them and by the lack of visitors. With the costs connected in owning and maintaining worlds it seems there ought to be some compromise. People see the barren surroundings, void of life and lose their interest quickly. Should the customers go away soured by AW or just go away? As the cost of living is rapidly on the rise { ie: oil , gas }there needs to be some relief . AWI, Please let us have the tourists tour freely once again. [View Quote] tengelNov 14, 2005, 1:01pm
Well Tart Sugar, some worlds runs Andras Guardbot that protects tourist
builds -- Tengel www.3D-Nordic.com [View Quote] tengelNov 14, 2005, 2:39pm
http://www.andras.net/guardbot.html
What world that runs it, you have to ask Andras. He knows that alot better then me. -- Tengel www.3D-Nordic.com [View Quote] tart sugarNov 14, 2005, 3:49pm
ROFL!!!
I love the "TooMuchDeleting" msg!!!!! ok, Andras. Which world(s) is this in??? This is WAY too CooL. I like it!!! [View Quote] andrasNov 14, 2005, 6:26pm
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> ROFL!!!
> I love the "TooMuchDeleting" msg!!!!! > > ok, Andras. Which world(s) is this in??? > > This is WAY too CooL. I like it!!! > I wrote this bot first for AWNewbie (though it seems offline). Storage uses this bot and I regularly try to open up new building lots for tourists. I remember a world "Tourist" wanted to use it but it seems private world now. Other than those I have no clue which worlds are using it (except in AWEurope :). The bot is not phoning home, so I have no track record about them. -- Andras "It's MY computer" (tm Steve Gibson) tart sugarNov 14, 2005, 6:34pm
elykNov 14, 2005, 7:07pm
Hence AWNewbie being a "practice" world. The guardbot is used in
AWNewbie so that tourists have a chance to test out building at their own pace, without fear of vandals and troublemakers coming in and destroying their builds as they are in the process of making them. As a "practice" world, we need to clear builds in order to make room for other users to want to try their hand at building, otherwise there would be no room for newcomers. Let's face it-- tourists builds are deletable, always have been, always will be-- AWI starts everyone out as tourists for a reason, to "TEST" the program, not to give them free access to everything, otherwise, where's the profit? Kinda like how games have "demos", not everything is free, nor will it be in the future, otherwise profit would not be made and it would be a tad bit hard for AW's business or any other business to keep running. My 2 cents ;P [View Quote] tart sugarNov 14, 2005, 7:24pm
Good point.
I'll see your 2 cents and raise you a nickle. : ) But I think the point that ORB was trying to make here was tourists are becoming a dying breed in AW. We need to think of a way to make tourists want to come into AW again. (Alpha World) [View Quote] elykNov 14, 2005, 7:31pm
Tourists are still all over, the other day there were about 12-15 of
them in AWGZ, and AlphaWorld is 8 times out of 10 still the largest visited world on the list. There will always be tourists visiting AW-- it seems sometimes that there are less of them, but AW has always had it's phases in the amounts of visitors. One year it may be less, the next year, many may have downloaded and visited the program. [View Quote] syntaxNov 14, 2005, 9:57pm
We have a steady stream of tourists coming into SW City around the clock. A
lot of them visit on a regular basis as well. -- - Syntax - www.swcity.net [View Quote] m0eNov 15, 2005, 12:01am
the world 'Yellow' died due to lack of tourist ... seems strange, Yellow
Stone Park, not allowing tourist [View Quote] tart sugarNov 15, 2005, 12:51am
If they banned tourists from The Gate it would sure make GK'ing a whole lot
easier. ; ) [View Quote] orbNov 15, 2005, 1:09am
What I am meaning is more about having the free tourism back so world owners
want to stay and keep their worlds... not necessarily about having new people who want to buy cits. There's quite a few world owners ready to give up their worlds. Those who get worlds rarely keep them for very long because of the lack of visitors. Being charged extra to have tourists visit is NOT the answer. AND AW IS PRACTICALLY BARREN OF ANYTHING REMOTELY RESEMBLING LIFE ! [View Quote] syntaxNov 15, 2005, 1:27am
syntaxNov 15, 2005, 1:28am
Maybe you are just looking for people in the wrong places.. ;D
-- - Syntax - www.swcity.net [View Quote] ryNov 15, 2005, 6:55am
strike rapierNov 15, 2005, 8:31am
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By that same note, if they banned GK's from The Gate it would make being a
user much easier =p -- - Mark Randall http://zetech.swehli.com "Those people that think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do" Isaac Asimov gnu32Nov 15, 2005, 2:02pm
When I've stayed around AWGZ, i have noticed something.
There Are tourists coming yes, but the problem is that 90% of them are either AOL'ers (I'm not strictly talking about people who use an AOL internet connection, just the idiotic ones) or strung-up Irate kids. They either come to start bad mouthing a random person, flood "AW is shit" or think they are "hardcore gangsters". We already have Tektite, Codemaster and other kids, we don't need any more tourists and citizens like them. £.02 (Excluding 17.5% VAT) [View Quote] shalimarNov 15, 2005, 2:08pm
I agree whole heartedly, ORB. Tourists are a double edged sword and always
have been. There is always that small element who come only to provoke, pillage, plunder and prank! But they are the smaller percent by far. AW or any other business will never grow in numbers if they bounce the new prospects at the front door! I've never understood this. There are multiple ways to manage tourists with limited privileges, bots, and the many other things mentioned on this thread. One school of thinking is that if tourists are confined to a specific world to "try their hand at building" and that world deletes monthly, then that is inspiration for the tourist to buy a membership or even a world! And, I've seen it work!! Another point is that I agree totally that a tourist should NOT have the right to come in here and build to his heart's content with the guarantee that those builds will be there forever right along with the cits who pay $70 a year for the same privilege. This is the saddest and most noticable to me. Not so long ago.....up until the rule change on tourists....."world hopping" was great fun! Friends would take off in the middle of the night and go from world to world , checking out new builds, techniques, commands, models, etc. And there were some totally beautiful worlds to see!!! Where have all those builders gone? To places where people can come in the middle of the night and admire their new builds, techniques, commands, models, etc. World hopping these days with a few exceptions, only leave you in world after world that has been obviously won in bingo or some other means, or came out of allowance money in the form of a Homepage p10! There is more abandoned JUNK, 10-20% half assed completed worlds, and lousy hodgepodge creations in the line up of private worlds than in all tourist builds and Alpha put together! There is no pride, little incentive and less and less creativity in this universe with each passing day! Now when is someone going to get their head out of that 4.1 huddle and fix this problem before they don't have a flippin person to impress with their new browser?? *Hops off soap box and returns to cave* [View Quote] shalimarNov 15, 2005, 2:08pm
I agree whole heartedly, ORB. Tourists are a double edged sword and always
have been. There is always that small element who come only to provoke, pillage, plunder and prank! But they are the smaller percent by far. AW or any other business will never grow in numbers if they bounce the new prospects at the front door! I've never understood this. There are multiple ways to manage tourists with limited privileges, bots, and the many other things mentioned on this thread. One school of thinking is that if tourists are confined to a specific world to "try their hand at building" and that world deletes monthly, then that is inspiration for the tourist to buy a membership or even a world! And, I've seen it work!! Another point is that I agree totally that a tourist should NOT have the right to come in here and build to his heart's content with the guarantee that those builds will be there forever right along with the cits who pay $70 a year for the same privilege. This is the saddest and most noticable to me. Not so long ago.....up until the rule change on tourists....."world hopping" was great fun! Friends would take off in the middle of the night and go from world to world , checking out new builds, techniques, commands, models, etc. And there were some totally beautiful worlds to see!!! Where have all those builders gone? To places where people can come in the middle of the night and admire their new builds, techniques, commands, models, etc. World hopping these days with a few exceptions, only leave you in world after world that has been obviously won in bingo or some other means, or came out of allowance money in the form of a Homepage p10! There is more abandoned JUNK, 10-20% half assed completed worlds, and lousy hodgepodge creations in the line up of private worlds than in all tourist builds and Alpha put together! There is no pride, little incentive and less and less creativity in this universe with each passing day! Now when is someone going to get their head out of that 4.1 huddle and fix this problem before they don't have a flippin person to impress with their new browser?? *Hops off soap box and returns to cave* [View Quote] tart sugarNov 15, 2005, 2:09pm
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And if they banned the "regular user" from The Gate so that GKs could do
their job properly.............. rofl ; ) cienaNov 15, 2005, 4:42pm
I agree with u. Out of the 24 open worlds starting with the letters W, X, Y
and Z, I only saw maybe 3 worlds that had anything in it other than junk, or just a GZ or little black triangles. Not fun world hopping when thats all there is to see. Ppl just dont seem to take pride in their worlds anymore probably because no one goes to see them. I guess if most of what u see in most worlds is crap no one wants to world hop anymore. As far as I'm concerned there is only a hand full of worlds worth looking at. Maybe 2 handfulls but thats a small amount out of 400+ open worlds here and about 58 of those r X rated. Some worlds only have a piece of road in it thats been there for a few years. People might take more pride if the worlds were open to tourists and getting visitors. I have 1 world tourist enabled and it gets 10 to 14 visitors a day and my other ones get maybe 2 a day. [View Quote] |
