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Universal Chat Channel for Active Worlds? // CommunitysyntaxMay 31, 2005, 12:10am
Ferruccio and I were discussing possible solutions to a problem that may be
hurting the community's new and incoming population. Apparently, there is a steady flow of newcomers always joining into Active Worlds but there's no way of them to integrate themselves into the existing community body. Thus, they only stick around a few weeks and miss out on what Active Worlds has to offer. We came up with an idea of having a Universal Chat Channel that anyone logged into Active Worlds could join into and talk. This would solve a few problems: 1. Newbies wanting help could easily get it by asking in the Universal channel. 2. People could contact PK's easier. 3. People could advertise their events and projects in the chat window. I'm sure there's more benefits. There's more discussion and ideas floating around at http://www.swcity.net/yabbse/index.php?topic=3538.0. What do you think? -- - Syntax - http://www.swcity.net http://forum.swcity.net sweMay 31, 2005, 1:07am
personally, i think it's a good idea. especially the events thing. like in
Second life and there (well, i think there had it too, cna't remember), you could search for events happening at whatever time and day, and well, made it alot more interesting, sicne you knew where to go. -SWE [View Quote] lioness..May 31, 2005, 2:27am
I love this idea! Wasn't there some kind of AW committee that organized
events and posted them on a calendar page? Or is that dead now? [View Quote] lord fettMay 31, 2005, 2:29am
There can be tabs across the top of the chat window to switch between
the various channels and set some as default for new installations. Also make it so that people can view a list of all channels available and be able to add/remove and even rename channels when they want. Would be a very good I think and would not be _that_ hard to implement. [View Quote] hyper anthonyMay 31, 2005, 2:30am
AWEC. You can access it through the AW Newsletter. But other than AWTeen's
weekly events, bingo, and some random x-rated world event, its pretty much the same thing every month. :/ [View Quote] syntaxMay 31, 2005, 2:22pm
Tabs.. thats a better idea than split screen.
-- - Syntax - http://www.swcity.net http://forum.swcity.net [View Quote] kennethMay 31, 2005, 4:00pm
Interesting idea, except the way AWGate is structured and the GKs, there
would have to be changes within that too I bet. The only downside is, people would stop talking in AWGate and only use that text chat for most conversation because everyone in the universe sees it so there would be more access to people, etc. Eventually AW would slowly evolve into a text based chat program with some 3d stuff on the side.... which is the wrong way. AW is Virtual Universe meaning people are scattered around like in real life. -Ken [View Quote] hyper anthonyMay 31, 2005, 4:36pm
Not quite, Kenneth. The way I've seen it used before, it worked itself out
to be a light chat and advertising type chat room. Things like advertising events, or just general chatting when you're bored. That's because chatting isn't AW's main draw, you can't chat in a seperate window and build at the same time. While it seems like they would do these things as you describe, I'm sure you've noticed that there are several groups of people that don't like associating with each other (for the most irrational reasons) and life in AWGate would go on as normal. And to be quite honest, the "disscussion" in AWGate wasen't all that great to begin with. :p -Hyper Anthony [View Quote] 77May 31, 2005, 7:16pm
Awhile ago i joined a MSN group that was ran by a AW member but there wasnt
very many ppl that belonged to the group and i dont know if it even still exists anymore because i havent been there for a while sw comitMay 31, 2005, 7:29pm
I think the people who do that would be the same crowd that never leave AWGZ
and AWGate. Everyone else is in AW to utilize the 3d world and explore it and develope it. [View Quote] makiMay 31, 2005, 11:37pm
I don't think I'd care for this idea. I see your point with new users, but
if any user can just hop onto a big single chat pool, where's the fun of exploring the universe and only talking in the location you're at? Maki [View Quote] sw comitJun 1, 2005, 12:02am
The following is from C P, who asked me to post this:
==================================== Many MMORPG's have a chat system like this. For example World of Warcraft has General chat channel, Local defence chat channel, and other channels that are world specific (in aw's case i mean, whereas in WOW it is node specific). Saying /1 TEXT puts the text in channel one which is general chat. Then in AW's case this would be our local channels, but also in WOW there are local regioun commands /s (say) projects a 50 yards radius (visibilty in aw probably) /y (yell) projects 100 yards, and then there are additional channels such as /6 which is global deffence, this given channel allows for people to see faction messages across the world...IF their subscribed... Now for AW i can see a very simmilar, yet in simmilar system, being implemented. First; AW would need a total re write of the chat...(possibly making it detached floating window that has partial trans *please*. Basically you would have the local chats which we have now, for people we see, then hopefully we could have a global chat, for example saying "/1 hey does anyone know where AWTeen's old fall GZ is?" would post to general chat channel one for the world AWTeen the affore stated message. Additionally , there would be an ability for world owners to specify which channels where which, such as saying i nthe world options the default channels (probably 8 or so) then every one after that would be a private channel where i could say /4765122 and my friend who is in that channel too could see it... This type of custmoisation would need a few features as well...firstly world CT, or privelaged person(s) could have a ADMIN channel that would let them possibly see all messages...? As for another implementation i would liek to see based in part from telegrams, but also with consideration to every online game in existance, is a /whisper, or /message, or /tell system dissimilar to AW's where i can whisper anyone despite their relation to my person. Adding usability like me saying /w Matt888 "hey" and he would get that despite his location, whether he is in Teengate, AWTeen, or AWgate... Su amigo Cristobal... errrr no C P (350959)-Expired "Trunks" ^_^ [View Quote] syntaxJun 1, 2005, 4:18am
With the current userbase... it would take a lot of exploring to find anyone
to talk to. But you must consider that people who build are not going to be wasting their time in the universal chat channel. You can only do one thing at a time. You of all people should appreciate this idea. It would bring the whole community closer together. -- - Syntax - http://www.swcity.net http://forum.swcity.net [View Quote] siliconmanaJun 1, 2005, 5:29am
I think there was a thread about the Awec webpage recently, stating how
outdated it looked. As a recently new member to AW who is reasonably tech savvy, l was horrified to see such outdated production on these pages. Surely they can do better, and one effective way would be to have a general chat. Also more signage for ppl first entering. Too many times at GZ l have witnessed disgusting behavior from tourists who come in for all the wrong reasons. As a parent myself l wonder how many children are being exposed to this. And sometimes GK's are not there to inform them as to correct protocol, or they are overwhelmed. Or, as in another post, at times they are ejecting ppl for very little reason at all. A universal chat channel could benefit many new users, and it's not going to change anything for established users that l can see who will continue to communicate within the existing framework. siliconmana [View Quote] sw comitJun 1, 2005, 3:51pm
A universal chat channel would also make newbies more aware of the
communities and organizations within AW that they can join and become involved with, and finally move out from AWGate. At the moment, you have to do more advertising than must people are willing to go through with. Once again I believe the only people that would quit exploring, and using local chat to talk to nearby people, would be the same people who pretty much never explore anyway, like the full-time AWgate crowd :P If you ONLY use AW to chat, then you should like this feature If you like to build and explore and play available games within AW, you still will, plus use uni-chat when lonely out there :D It's a win-win feature... [View Quote] strike rapierJun 1, 2005, 4:18pm
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Are you SURE thats a good idea?.... think 'all' organisations and
communities. -- - Mark Randall http://zetech.swehli.com sweJun 1, 2005, 6:02pm
well, it would have to be strictly controlled too, so if anyone gets to
spamming, automatic ejection. and i'm guessing you'd need a gate keepers type of thing to make sure people don't get annoying on it. and with that, whats the worst that could happen? -SWE [View Quote] tart sugarJun 1, 2005, 6:26pm
Exactly, SWE. That would be my main concern for it's use at The Gate -
keeping it G rated. Plus, I've been in other voice chat programs, and some kids like to get on it and SCREAM at the top of their lungs. UGH. >: / Perhaps it could be a feature for Cits only, to give the tourists another reason to register? That way, if a Cit continually abuses the privilege of voice chat, AWI can disable it on that acct. I'm not entirely sure a "gatekeeper type of thing" would work for it. Sounds more like a PK problem to me. ; ) ~TS [View Quote] sw chrisJun 1, 2005, 7:00pm
Please remember that the suggestion of a universal chat channel is not
intended as a _replacement_ for the local chat area we have, but as a _supplement_ to it. Chris [View Quote] goober kingJun 1, 2005, 7:37pm
strike rapierJun 1, 2005, 7:50pm
.... and we all know how effective AW's current vaulentary groups are at
doing that... -- - Mark Randall http://zetech.swehli.com [View Quote] tart sugarJun 1, 2005, 8:56pm
That's fine for you, but as a GK we can't mute anybody.
It's bad enough to see "<whoever> RAWKS" 20 times a minute in chat, then we'd have to LISTEN to it, too??? ROFL No, ty. ~TS [View Quote] strike rapierJun 1, 2005, 9:07pm
You have eject dont you? Abuse it for the good of the universe... we won't
blame you for taking all 3 of them out for the next 100 years. -- - Mark Randall http://zetech.swehli.com [View Quote] hyper anthonyJun 1, 2005, 11:45pm
I would recommend that a chat moderator just be like a regular user in
there. They don't need bold, they can just go in and chat like any other person. No recognition, no power trips. (Also, if AWI does impliment this feature, they should ask about 15 or so experienced volunteers that are fair and equal to ALL GROUPS in AW. The current chat moderation organizations are ok, but there are some people in them that, well... aren't exactly logical in their judgement. :p -Hyper Anthony [View Quote] outsiderJun 2, 2005, 1:12am
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They eject people they don't like. Also, since they can't mute, they
eject people they don't want to listen to. That's all I've gathered for the reasons for eject with them. alin.steglinski alin.steglinski@comcastJun 2, 2005, 8:30pm
ok i like the idea. but i think it should be a G universal chat channel
(that way we can starve those gor idiots) also we should construct it like the newsgroup with a beta area a bots area a community area a sdk area a wishlist area a worldbuilder area a builder area a town area and a regular chat area tony mJun 2, 2005, 9:27pm
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> ... (that way we can starve those gor idiots) ...
In any Internet forum, you are expected to adhere to basic rules of common sense and etiquette. In a public setting like this, "those gor idiots" deserve the same level of respect that you would give to anyone else. (They are, after all, human just like you are and have emotions and feelings.) This might help you refresh your etiquette: http://www.albion.com/netiquette/corerules.html hyper anthonyJun 2, 2005, 11:50pm
PG is more appropriate for AW's large variety of age groups, and a general
chat room and a public building world chat room would probably be enough considering the size of AW's userbase. -Hyper Anthony [View Quote] |