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Feb 13, 2003, 11:18am

How do you wanna enforce tourists to be unable to change their names?
Cits should always be able to change their name as long as they stay on the
same cit.

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Feb 13, 2003, 11:34am

My suggestion was made to disable the ability to change name, within the
program... and to disable the ability for a cit to change to tourist mode. Thus
preventing those few obnoxious users from hiding while they perform
malicious deeds. I also find it hard to 'know' a user by their cit# since
I mostly see their names and when they misbehave, they are usually the type
that are bright enough to leave before the Cit# can be checked... :))
MIKsam

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Feb 13, 2003, 12:46pm

Linn, you know that is bullshit LOL.
They did not get an award just because their worlds had some material that
could be classified pornograpic by some muslims,republicans, texans or other
persons with a limited capability of viewing things, but because they have a
working community, nicely built worlds and well done objects. Visit one of
those places, take a look at them buildwise and objectwise, dont judge them
because you do not understand their way of thinking.

Drac
linn <ironhead at digitalpassage(dot)com> kirjoitti
viestissä:3e4aa573 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I agree that all nudity isn't porn but url s in worlds to porn sites
> would need to be cleaned up too but wait didn't SOMEONE give them an
> award for just that this is why AW (well another reason) is going
> downhill AW has rules but like some other organization they either
don't
> enforce them or they change them to suit the occasion just plain
bad
> business
>
>
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Feb 13, 2003, 3:42pm

Hi king bluemax,

Version 3.4 will allow world owners to turn "tourist building" on and off as
a world option. We hope this helps :)

E



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Feb 13, 2003, 4:07pm

3.4 you say my friend? Well I have 3.3 and I have the option as well ...
sooooooooo ... what is new about it if I may ask?

~neo

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Feb 13, 2003, 4:21pm

You cannot set your world to allow everyone EXCEPT tourists to build, can you?
for instance, you cannot set your world to allow everyone to enter & Build.....and let tourists enter, but NOT build.
I hope this fix is in the form of an "exlude list" and not just a mod to handle tourists.

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Feb 13, 2003, 4:26pm

Idea: They enter their phone no & aw phone em w/ a id


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Feb 13, 2003, 4:37pm

[View Quote] Unfortunately it is a mod to handle the tourists only :(

--
Andras
"It's MY computer" (tm Steve Gibson)

Feb 13, 2003, 4:41pm

Erm, how do you know its "kiddies"

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Feb 13, 2003, 5:10pm

Uhhh AW doesn't have the time.

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Feb 13, 2003, 6:47pm

But trying to get someone banend normally creates a whole lot of red tape -
no, i think its better to nip the problem at the bud so to speak.


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Feb 13, 2003, 7:15pm

It is a small change to do it this way. We are really supposed to be in a
code freeze right now - and Andras told me 3 months ago not to add anything
else!

E


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Feb 14, 2003, 1:23pm

Hi linn, I agree that there are probably less people signing up now then
there were before, but i will say that in the last few months In my world
where i spend most of my time these days that ive seen a lot of cits in the
350--- and higher range, which means to me that there are still people
signing up, not as many mabee, but the economy is getting worse and less
people are spending recreationally. I am in finance, and dabble a bit with
computers as well, and from what ive seen in sec filings, and general info
on AW in the press releases and other news sorces these guys almost lost it
all, Im sure that their personal finances are a big concern to them, but
from what ive seen they go out of their way to try to be as generous as
financially possible. There were a while back some big issues with mergers
and then the stock fell of the nasdaq. I think they did what they had too to
save something they loved doing, not to get richer. I dont know them
personally nor have I seen their books, but I know enough about money to say
that if that were what they were worried about there wouldnt be an aw
anymore, they would have taken their cut and been on their way, I know I
would have LOL. These guys are exceptionally brilliant, not just playing
with software, but in business, and while id rather not pay more than i do,
If the price went up, id be confident that It was neccessary to keep the
lights on. I welcome tourists to my world, and from what Ive seen crusing
around the universe, there is plenty for them to try before they buy. I pay
for it, and so should they, unless its not their bag. As a child my
grandfather always taught me, theres no such thing as a free lunch, good
thing too, or a lot of my clients would have gotton around my 200 dollar an
hour consulting fees over a 20 dollar lunch date. Once again, just my
thoughts, Take Care. KBM

Feb 14, 2003, 1:38pm

Hi ENZO,
Sounds Great, I cant wait to see 3.4 I saw your video tour a while back of
new aw and was very impressed. Also good to see you in the newsgroups more
often, I greatly value the opinion of valid sources. Also, when you get a
chance write a biography LOL, Im very interested in hearing the whole story
of your company and its ups and downs, As are a few less computer savy
relitives of mine Ive told about all of this AW Stuff LOL, Just an idea,
might go over better than the huck finn thing LOL, take care, KBM

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Feb 14, 2003, 2:51pm

He could always grant an exclusive interview with AWNews on the
subject... ;D

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Goober King
Stranger things have happened...
gooberking at utn.cjb.net

Feb 15, 2003, 7:04am

"e n z o" <enzo at activeworlds.com> wrote

> Probably not to some...

Whats your opinon on it?
You do have a sense of humor, right?
I love putting Enzo under the spot light, just like out of the movies with
the intergation in the dark room with a lamp.

Feb 16, 2003, 4:01am

Well, let's put it this way. If Trent Lott can't get away with it, nobody
should. :P

Chris

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Feb 16, 2003, 5:21pm

Not all the time.

Moral bashing doesn't result in lifting the self esteem of people. Though,
we may learn more about the truth of ourselves when we make a mistake and
especially if we are confronted. It makes you humble, a bit more wise, and
instead of thinking highly of the self, it shifts trust from yourself to the
guy upstairs. That might make your outward appearance and demeanor look
like you have self esteem and courage to others, but what is really
happening is you are persevering through completely relying on, trusting and
following God.

[View Quote] Giving people a good moral bashing in the public
> spot light doesn't usually affect people in the way you want it to. Often
> the person gains more self esteem through the trouble they cause, because
it
> gets recognized... no matter how good or bad the recognition is.
>
> Poseidon
>
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Feb 17, 2003, 1:23pm

I bet even if there were a way to make their name static then just like
shareware they would uninstall the software and reinstall it and somehow get
around it. Or it would waste resources at aw chasing down issues with
non-paying customers. I wouldnt waste much time on tourist mode myself, like
i said before Its really to try before you buy, and i suppose my point was
mostly that they should get a bite of the apple not eat the whole apple and
decide they didnt like it. Seems to me that thats more likly to entice
someone to get a cit. I myself use bots, one in global mode which will log
the cit numbers and IP adresses of all those entering my world, and others
placed in areas to see who went where, this vitually eliminates probs with
cits, plus if they do vandalize its clear who it is if they are in a citizen
when they do it. Also by watching times and such in the logs you can
sometimes see a pattern and make reasonable asumptions as to who suddenly
disappeared and reappeared as a tourist. In addition, the time on the
offending object can also narrow it down by seeing who was where in the
world when, while its not 100% it can be fairly accurate. Except for some
really offensive signs I dont really give much thought to all of it, I like
to enjoy my AW time. With the exception of the big public worlds it is the
decision of the worldowner whether to allow them and to pay the extra cash,
and in the public worlds, not allowing them i think is an incentive to get a
citizen. Which i think benifits all of us when more people are paying their
share. As far as changing names, Ive always felt that keeping your name the
same helps to establish your cit in the community and changing it often
leads to confusion, but i do agree it should always be allowed without
bothering AW to do it. Take Care All, Got To go shovel some more damn snow
LOL. KBM

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Feb 18, 2003, 1:17am

You're both right from certain points of view. Debate over.

Chris

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Feb 18, 2003, 11:26am

Tie the cit name to the cit#... reinstalling to get around it as a cit, would require
the purchase of another cit... and yes tourist could reinstall but that would put
more work on them if they wanted to cause malicious mischief.
The main reason for my post was to point out a possible way for AWI to let
tourists into the main worlds to look around without having the GZs put up
with the troublemakers. I am sure AWI are interested in hearing our suggestions
so they have more ideas that might help them solve problems that users
complain about... I like to see suggested solutions presented along with a
complaint, even if the solution might not work out well... :)) It is easy to
post that we like or don't like something, it takes more thought to look for
a possible solution.... MIKsam

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Feb 19, 2003, 12:23am

I agree totally that AW gets a great deal out of the newsgroups. Didnt mean
to come across as personally antagonistic :o).
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Feb 19, 2003, 10:08am

LOL.. you did not sound antagonistic... guess we both get a bit
frustated with this darn snow and it must show in our typing... :))

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Feb 20, 2003, 3:01pm

http://www.homestarrunner.com/interview.html


:)


E



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Feb 20, 2003, 7:33pm

LOL
Chris

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Feb 21, 2003, 11:43am

ROFLOL Rick your a trip sometimes....LOL

ya just never know what the boss is gonna pull out of his back pocket.


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Feb 22, 2003, 2:44pm

binarybud <leo at realPANTStourvision.com> kirjoitti
viestissä:3e4a8a8d$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I totally disagree. They need a good "spanking".

*Goes for my whip and head towards AWTeen to spank some teens*

Drac, ye olde pervert

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