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Feb 28, 2002, 10:51pm

*FREAKING OUT SCARED !!!!!!!*

dun do them BOOS unless you give some warning ;)


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Feb 28, 2002, 11:54pm

theft and murder are not down to values ?????

what are you on ?

tell that to a cleptomaniac(how ever you spell it) or a serial killer.

i think you need to think that one thru Rene ;)

lots of love

kris[SunOfSolaris]

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Feb 28, 2002, 11:58pm

yo hippies screw you
i kik u in the NUUUTTTZZZZZ

if he/she doesnt want to fill up his/her hard drive
why doesnt he/she consider ZipSlack, a linux installation in under 100mb, so
called as it will fit on a Zip disk. May need to download a few libs n
mods, but with those a webserver should be executable on there.

dont even have to repartition to run the installation :) nice huh ?

if repartitioning is a pain and ZipSlack really dont float your boat, then
consider WinLinux, another that will run in a fat32 partition along side a
windows installation

any way

l8rz

have fun

kris[SunOfSolaris]

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p.s. screw linux users, get a real OS, like Solaris :) :)

LIX LIX LIX LIX KISS




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Mar 1, 2002, 12:09am

perhaps i am being stupid here, but weather XP support raw sockets or not,
surely this is not security risk to the user of the OS ? Only an advantage
to the skilled coder who is able to abuse the support of raw sockets in
building custom tcp packets, in order to cause DoS on another ip ?

If i was to install XP on my machine, errrrr which NO WAY am i going to do
for reasons other than security, surely i am not at risk from my own machine
? I have just increased my own potentional to cause damage to other IPs ?

maybe i'm wrong, dont even know why i am defended the OS, i hate it.

Apache, by the way, i would agree is a much more secure webserver than IIS,
problem with IIS is a poorly implemented scripting language(ASP) that is
riddled with security holes, many now patched and many still waiting to be
found. Apache is, i agree, also highly configurable.

hooray for kris

lots of love

kris[SunOfSolaris]

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Mar 3, 2002, 10:31am

Is that all this pathetic little man ever does in reponses ?

Tell people to grow up ?

I've been reading this group for the last few weeks and it would appear to
me there is only one who needs to do some growing up.

thank you

Dreamy


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Mar 1, 2002, 11:44pm

"in an infinite universe everything is possible" oh really ? so that would
mean that also some where in this infinite universe the opposite is also
correct * in an infinite universe nothing is possible *, isnt that a little
contradictory or something ?

lots of love and kisses

kris[Sun.Of.Solaris.]

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Mar 2, 2002, 12:36am

already thought of that, although also an opposite(depending on how you
would define opposites when multiple terms exist, linguistically or
logically), it doesnt really fit the point.

but i still claim that it's self contradictory to claim that "in an infinite
universe everything is possible"

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Mar 2, 2002, 12:42am

yeah man that one would be safe to say, but then again that would depend on
how you perveive the universe, infinate or finate ;)


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Mar 2, 2002, 1:04am

hmmmm thats not how i see it re the speed of lite
once they hit the speed of lite they would be an infinite mass, n from what
i have read m sure that when something reaches infinite mass, something like
a black whole forms ?

"I'd say it's infinte by our standards" hmmm not so sure infinate is defined
by any standard ;)

"No space can be truely infinite. In order to measure distance it'd need to
be some finate size.. " - thats exactly the point, being infinate means that
it cant be measured, it never ends, so would be immeasurable. One other
point tho, i dont think its just physical size that the quote refers to.(now
that one is a brain teaser to explain)

"and since no point in time is ever the same" - not sure we can claim that
as a known, along with most of our other supposed "knowledge". Kant had
this all written in some real BIG sentances, was a nightmare to understand
the guy, but have a read, he explains it at some point in his "Critique of
Pure Reason" if i remember rightly, something like a chapter called "Time &
Space", wait m gonng go check for you.

got it

its in "The Critique of Pure Reason", its in section 1 called
"Transcendental Doctrine of Elements" and there are to subsections , one
called "Time" and one called "Space", if you read on quite a bit there is
more on the 2 subjects, but u would have to b a total sadist to read it for
too long.

damn that was a mission, had to dig thru a pile of books, hehe they aint
been moved since i graduated, i reall should clean this place up, 2 years
lmfao, m surprised the dust hadnt stuck it down to the floor !!!

kris[Sun.Of.Solaris.]


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Feb 28, 2002, 9:39pm

In response to this silly man, please read some of the following telegrams
posted to my by Leo, (please read my comments following) :-

Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 17:29:
i was coding idiot before you had your diapers removed LOL

Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 17:30:
Try 72 idiot i started with COBOL remember that ? lol

Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 17:32:
i've coded in them all...... lanuage is nothing.. logic rulez

Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 17:39:
this is all elementary stuff punk all easyly gleed off the web..... shit
i've forgot most of that shit..... and like i said i do not need to prove
a thing to you..... tell ya what.... when you lose your access to AW let
me know...;)

Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 17:43:
www.leomauk.com idiot...;) it's an old site not done a thing with it for
years but my resume is there idiot...;)

Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 17:45:
what the fuck you talking about hehehe i code for a living asshole i
can write anything you want boner.... explain that last post

Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 17:46:
i wrote those before you were walking asshole and made a ton of cash on
them too hehhehe live and learn i'm done with your time wasting
embelishment prove yourself idiot

Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 17:48:
that is old shit idiot....done in QB actually bonehead

Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 18:15:
i am quite proud of my accomplishments all self taught never need anyone
to show me the ropes heheheh looks like you need to figure that part
out huh? :) and like i said i code in what ever is needed at the time
language means nothing

Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 18:18:
i never when to a uni idiot read again self taught.... i also am a
bench technician :) i build and repair PC's chip level ...;)

Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 18:30:
heheh well since you can't find out my info for some reason i'm
actually 46 and oh BTW your ISP is gonna have fun with ya when they
get the transcripts from our convorsations on how your trying to hack AW
:) lol heheh love it...:)

Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 18:56:
oh and BTW your cit is 345704 joined in Dec :)

Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 18:57:
i got it without being in AW smart ass

Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 18:58:
that's cause you don't know enough about me YET ;)

Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 20:30:
LOL i did RoboBuilder 2 years BEFORE the SDK was even available
bonehead...:) read up on it i won an award for that stupid code too...:)

Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 20:32:
actually i have some kewl bot's i've done with the SDK...:) no one has
done what i've done with bots...;) ask around if anyone knows me in AW..:)

Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 20:33:
lol cause i'm always ahead of the curve....lol

So as you can see, Leo is some what arrogant about his bot's, seems to think
he is some kind of 'Bot God' and the AW community owes him a favour. The
reason i showed him the experimental bot was simply to highlight the fact
that his bots dont do EVERYTHING that ANYONE else's do.

As for up to no good, and this goes for you to Joeman, no i was not up to
good at all, simply proving a point to a jumped up wannabe nothing more.
LOL and as for you joeman, coming in my world along with the rest of the
stream of "hardore 'haxx0rs'", i dont care who you are or what you think you
are, and as for your "prngstate" and how you have the "aw crypto", lol, what
the hell do i care.

ITS JUST AN EXPERIMENTAL BOT I WROTE FOR JOKES, NOTHING MORE !!!!!

so all of the wannabe haxx0rs that want to keep on coming in my world n
snooping for info,
a) i dont have any ;)
b) if i did you really think i would give it to you ?
c) dont waste your time

one final world, Leo, thanks for all the publicity man, i guess you dont
loose graciously do you ? Wake up, you are not GOD, you are not the owner
of AW, you may have won some awards for yout bots, but, this does not mean
the AW community owes you a favour.

look forward to speaking to all the PK's & script kiddies who are now
evidently going to be tailing me for the rest of my AW days.

thanks

kris






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Feb 28, 2002, 10:04pm

Incase you hadnt noticed Sherlock, the AW client doesnt keep log of sent
telegrams, so including those are a little hard. However, briefly and to
the point, i simply told the guy where to get off, and he wasnt God, and the
AW community didnt owe him a favour.

He came back with those telegram messages when he realised that he wasnt the
only one who could write bots, and his were not so ahead of their time, and
he wasnt the guru of all code. The man simply cant take it when some one
out there mite just know a little more than him, or can code as good as him,
if not better being as his bots are all simple ActiveApp and SendKeys
commands in Visual Basic.

"BinaryBud has been around for ages and I certainly appreciate his post
warning users of a malicious bot. " i am sure he was relying on users
feeling that to :)

Still beleive what you will, i am sure the PK's can look at telegram logs
and work out what was going on.

kris[SunOfSolaris]


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Feb 28, 2002, 10:07pm

BinaryBud

you do make some assumptions dont you ?

first one being your grandure

second one being "as it stands now when you say hello ...... his bot it will
do a port scan on your machine "

no BinaryBill, it is not activated by "hello" its activated by any speach at
all

thank you kindly

lots of love

kris[SunOfSolaris]

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i'm totally convinced that you are just upset and a little riled that you
didnt do it first ........


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Mar 1, 2002, 12:11am

well said mate
Leo, is a little annoying, but i am sure i can leave him be now. Silly VB
script kiddy, needs to grow up n realise he isnt all he thinks he is :)
Who cant code VB ? i think my grandma even did a bit. You'd have thought
at his age he would have grown up enuff to realise this by now.
cheers baron

kris[SunOfSolaris]

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Mar 1, 2002, 12:41am

m sure i could knock one up if i was that worried
m sure the PK's can read the telegram logs at AW to sort the problem out

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Mar 1, 2002, 1:25am

hmmmm i know different ;)

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Mar 1, 2002, 1:34am

sorry, wont provide evidence

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Mar 1, 2002, 1:45am

beleive me it does

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Mar 1, 2002, 1:47am

we could go around circles on this one
normally i will prove what i say
which is what sparked this whole thread off in the first place
how ever, this time i wont
lets just end the topic of logged telegrams here, if it makes you happy you
win, yada yada yada


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Mar 1, 2002, 1:48am

lol talking of things that just happened
u just got a telegram
and BinaryBud is in my world again

[SUNBOT]: Hello, BinaryBud
*GONE*

whats he on ?
he seems desperate to prove something, lol

lots of love n kisses

kris[SunOfSolaris]

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Mar 1, 2002, 1:55am

do u have msn ?


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Mar 1, 2002, 2:00am

admittedly i may have been wrong, infact i am wrong according to caring,
about PK's looking thru the directly, but read the latter part of her first
response

> telegram

which doesnt say yes or no really as to weather the server does or not

as for syphoning thru them, well not really a problem either is it ? :-

select * from Telegrams, Memebrs where Members.name = "username" and
Telegrams.CitNo=Members.CitNo;

that is of course if AW use a sql compatable database at the back end ......
which judging from the rest of it, i dare say they DONT

lots of love and kisses

kris[SunOfSolaris]

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Mar 1, 2002, 3:01am

true enuff

here you go

select * from Telegrams, Members where Members.name = "username" and
Telegrams.CitNo=Members.CitNo order by Telegrams.date;

or

select * from Telegrams, Members where Members.name = "username" and
Telegrams.CitNo=Members.CitNo and (Telegrams.date between <date1> and
<date2>) order by Telegrams.date;

;)

btw i just thought, i'm totally sure, but the file extensions for the
database files in the client are sorting ring bells of Interbase, Interbase,
Interbase, but its late n i cant be assed to go check it out.

later man

kris[SunOfSolaris]




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Mar 1, 2002, 1:51pm

You are not understanding this are you "Bud", no one is trying to impress
you, no one ever was, you are NOT god, to me you're pretty much nothing.
Why would i want to prove anything to you ? You're some old dood who
thinks he can code, because he has written a couple of lame commercial
childs programs, lmao, "Barbie" and "Creature Creator", and then some lame
bot, "RoboBuilder"(ppl check out www.leomauk.com for information on these
'programs'). I dont rate you, and i think thats partly what you are so
upset about, the fact that i dont "ph33r ju". Go find another bubble
"Bud", this one has been burst.

I was merely proving a point to you in the first place. You sound awfully
belittled, and are acting it to. Again in the post that you are quoting
me, i was not trying to impress you either, just pointing out your mistakes,
YET AGAIN.

lots of love

kris[SunOfSolaris]

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Mar 1, 2002, 1:55pm

Sure, send email as much as you like, m sure i can find plenty of ppl to
fill your mail box also "Bud". Btw mate, thanks for posting the
telegrams, i would have posted my own if i could have, not going to read
thru and make sure you have butchered them to your advantage, although i
would be surprised if you hadnt. Anyway i think they say it all :)

btw thanks for the publicity "Bud", hehe, some one by the name of Alphabit
came to me, amongst a whole heep of other supposed "haxx0rs", and has asked
me to get involved in the CyAwards. Why dont you enter to ? May the best
man win :)

lots of love and kisses

kris[SunOfSolaris]

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Mar 1, 2002, 2:23pm

i havent released them, be sure to keep your eyes pealed on the CyAwards.

"Bud" has been in AW for nearly 5 years i should imagine, i have been here a
matter of months kid, but be sure to keep your eyes open, SunBot will be
released soon enuff :)


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Mar 1, 2002, 2:25pm

swe

thank you, like i said the telegrams would show who was trying to be big,
hard and "l337"

kris[SunOfSolaris]

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Mar 1, 2002, 2:46pm

Undecided as yet, how ever, when plans are available they will be released
to the general public via my prestigious web site ;) lmao

dunno yet, but when i know will let you know.

love

kris[SunOfSolaris]


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Mar 1, 2002, 3:21pm

alphabit, do me a favour before you post things concerning myself, read the
rest of the posts.

something that none of you are seeming to comprehend here, is, that i am not
at all fussed what anyone in AW thinks of me, i am not here for some kind of
"i'm so l337 and such a Master" award. I only demo'd my bot to Binary,
after he was mouthing off about how l337 and how great he is and how i
should "ph33r" him. The man is not a "Master" of anything. For that
matter if creating objects in a text editor makes you a Master then i was
that long ago. RWX is nothing new, n the fact that the format is plane
text, doesnt make it to hard to create objects in notepad now does it ? As
for Binary being some Master for writing some bot that simple uses
ActivateApp("<app window name>") and then the SendKeys("<key string>")
functions, i hardly think being a "Master of AW" is any great acheivment.

Sure, i will enter your CyAwards, although i am sure the judgement now will
hardly be unbiased(but i have my reasons for submitting an entry, and no
they are not bad reasons), but i am sure it will give good opportunity to
show case some of my code.(This is all being i have the time, new job
involving on call support begins next week, but i will enter if a bot at
some point for sure)

As for your accusations of putting my skills to negative effect, please read
the previous posts, SUNBOT IS NOT A HACKING BOT, how many more times do i
have to tell ppl this ? It has most of the things that RoboBot has in it
and more, i just chose to put the port scanner in as an experiment, nothing
more. Binary just happened to be the mouthy one who got to see it.

Sure, if i really wanted to make it into a hacking bot, i could. Wouldnt
be hard, code known exploits in, that on the event of finding an open port,
would straight away attack with the exploit code. No big deal, BUT, it
isnt in the bot, i am not planning to put it in the bot. Infact the bot
was never planned to be anything but a start in using the SDK. I just
learnt the SDK too fast i guess and got bored, so started to experiment.

One more thing i would like to add here, its not surprising that the
hackers/expoiters/script kiddies in many chat programs do what they do.
The likes of ppl like Leo who cant handle that some one else mite be just as
good if not better, constantly trying to mouth them outta the place, makes
them do what they do. Personally i dont care what Leo says, i take him for
what he is, a moron, who cant deal with not being God, and who thinks the
world owes him a favour because he wrote a few lame ass bits of code. He
cant deal with the fact that he cant bs me, cos i see right thru it. If he
hadnt have tried to, and to try and stake grandure in his bots being
something amazing and that his were so way ahead of every one elses, and no
one elses having any thing better then his, then i would have had no reason
to show him the bot. Now that i have, it is blatently obvious to even the
socially inempt that Leo is a very very sore loser.

He is not a Master, he is not a God. Just an old man who is desperate to
be something. Wake up. Coding bots does not make you anything "cool",
bots are hardly heavy technology now are they ?

lots of love

kris[SunOfSolaris]


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Mar 1, 2002, 3:38pm

:) thank you

love n kisses

kris[SunOfSolaris]

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p.s. one more thing Sun is kewl for short, but my name is SUNOfSolaris, not
SONofSolaris, just a point, thanks you :) LIX LIX LIX LIX

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Mar 1, 2002, 3:58pm

Unfortunately for you Binary, it would appear that your slurring tactics are
not having the effect you wish them to. Why not read the telegrams you
wrote, i told you in there i was fooling around with the password thing in
AWGate.

And yes you are a sore loser. Its blatent that you are just annoyed that i
dont ph33r you. You are not what you think you are. Wake up and smell the
coffee man :)

BTW, all the "hehehe" and "idiot" is just making you show your true self, a
wannabe hopeful. Hopeful in that you are preying no one exposes you for
the sorry sad man you are, which i just have :)

As for being self taught, again, learn to read what others tell you, read
the telegrams that you posted, if you posted them all and didnt butcher the
conversation, you will see that i am also self taught, BIG DEAL, so are most
ppl in the profession. Unfortunately for me tho, i live in England, where
the piece of paper with Degree written on it is what gets you in the door of
most companies. The piece of paper was all that i took away from
university, no education. I suspect again that you are little sore that i
have that to and you dont. Sounds very much like jealousy speaking "Bud"

keep digging man, pretty soon you will bury yourself, you're doing a pretty
good job so far.

you have already exposed that you have no idea what so ever what you are
talking about, and that you are sore as hell that you arent what you wish
you were.

lots of love and kisses

kris[SunOfSolaris]

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P.S. i really love you man, its ppl like you that are lessening the boredom
in the final days of my holiday between employment roles :)

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