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Mar 2, 2002, 3:26am

Surely in posting that to the group instead of posting directly to the
initiators of the thread you have just contradicted your own point ?

lots of love and kisses

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Mar 2, 2002, 3:40am

to be honest i couldnt care less
but
i am not going to sit here and watch AW God "Bud" flame me, and i dare say
you wouldnt either. Put yourself in my position and think what you would
do before you advise me of what i should do.

one more thing, and this goes out to all the ppl that post whines about "ppl
should post this", "battles are not to be faught here" etc etc ......

NOBODY FORCED U TO CLICK THE + AND NOBODY IS STOPPING YOU FROM CLICKING
THE - AND NOBODY IS FORCING YOU TO READ THIS THREAD. hello ?

lots of love and kisses

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Mar 2, 2002, 9:27am

"> Having been on Usenet for, apparently, a longer period of time than a
good
> number of the people here, "

another one who feels his time with a service justfies his knowledge and
some right to judge other peoples words.

one more time now "click the - on the right, when it turns to a +, dont ever
click that + again"

perhaps if people had actually properly read the content of some of the
posts, then
a) they wouldnt be whining about the size
b) they wouldnt be making some of the claims that they do in their whiney
posts.

*yawn* this whining is getting boring

lots of love and kisses

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Mar 2, 2002, 3:59pm

1) "Get no response" - i dont expect a reponse from one more whiner
2) "End up in my killfile (I don't care who you are.)" - i am already on
your killfile **oooh please i'm shaking, i take it that this is supposed to
be a cause for my concern ???**

1) "Childish arguements on a public forum" - judgemental whining
2) "NEVER snipping 16kb worth of quotes" - how else is one expected to show
what was said with out being accused of modification ?
3) "Being stone deaf" - how would being deaf when SEEING not hearing is what
you do when you talk via a newsgroup
4) "Pointless flaming" - being as you enter my name to your "killfile", i
assume that you point this at me also ? Please look at who started up this
news thread, and who was doing the flaming. All along throughout this
thread i have done nothing more than defend myself. Quit whining.

how many more times do i have to say this ?????????

I AM DEFENDING MY SELF AGAINST ATTACK FROM FLAMING AND NUMEROUS OTHER
INSULTS !!!!! WOULD YOU STAND STILL AND LET SOME ONE TALK BS ABOUT YOU
???? NO I DIDNT THINK SO. SO DONT EXPECT ME TO EITHER.

lots of love and kisses

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Mar 2, 2002, 8:04pm

wakey wakey
m not even gonna bother explaining it to you
no wait here you go, have part of what i responded to goobers personally
email with

"You blatantly contracdicted the claim you made in your first paragraph by
giving him help in the second paragraph. There, nice, plane and simply
put."

Not only that, go back to the sub thread to which it pertains, some one else
is giving the guy suggestions to, which would suggest to me, it was a well
placed post, otherwise he would have gotten no response.

hope this is simple enuff for you to follow

lots of love and kisses

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Mar 2, 2002, 8:07pm

i dont give a monkeys what you think, but at the end of the day m not having
some one try deformation of character and insult and sitting still whilst he
does it. Neither would you, i am sure.

Why dont all the whiners read the bits that explain, I AM DEFENDING MYSELF,
stop whining.

Another point, i didnt tell you not to read the "crap" i told you not to
read the "thread" if you didnt want to, so, one more time, if you dont like
it, click the - to the left of the thread, and when it changes to a +, dont
ever click it again :) Hope this helps

lots of love and kisses

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Mar 1, 2002, 6:17pm

yeah nice thought
how ever i dont sit still when there are ppl flaming me


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Mar 1, 2002, 6:44pm

well advise your friend "Bud" to cease his flaming of me
if you read my posts, i am merely defending myself against his accussations
on the most part


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Mar 1, 2002, 8:20pm

if that was directed at me, i suggest you take a look at who is starting new
"top level threads"(i think this is what you meant) I think you will find
that not one of them have i started.

lots of love n kisses

kris[SunOfSolaris]

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Mar 2, 2002, 12:45am

perhaps he wants to be a God to, just like "Bud", thats what i have been
told any way

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Mar 2, 2002, 3:25am

some what judgemental on your part wouldnt you say ?

a) if you dont like the thread then you see the - on the right of the top
level thread ? (i pressume that you are using a windows news reader) click
it, and when it turns to a + never click that one again. This will prevent
you having your dreams shattered in the future.

b) Read through the posts, on the whole, alot of them are almost the same
size to yours

c) The majority of the posts are reponses, addressing the issues made in the
sub thread of the top level thread. Therefore, as with most newsgroups, as
the initial subject is disected further and becomes more to the point, the
posts will becoming shorter and have less points in them. I think its
called something along the lines of "organised discussion"

I guess you are too busy judging others posts to THINK this through and
realise how a newsgroup tends to break down a large set of abstract points
in to specific particular points.

Perhaps it's you who needs to do a spot of thinking before you post.

lots of love and kisses

kris[Sun.Of.Solaris.]

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Mar 2, 2002, 9:14am

"Until then, you will serve as wonderful entertainment. I always do enjoy
watching idiots make fools of themselves, especially if it requires very
little prodding on my part. :-D" sounds like an echo of BinaryBud

Aren't you clever suspecting that i would be the one to reply to your post,
a simple empirical observation wouldnt you think, being as i have replied to
nearly all other posts, when they have been made in this thread concerning
me.

"Don't like it, don't read it" go and read the post i made, i said close the
thread if you dont like the content of the thread. I think before you
start slating a post of a thread, you should at least read EXACTLY what is
said.

"Guilty conscience, SOS? " not at all, please explain what you beleive i
have to be guilty about ? The reason i felt the urge to resposd was i
can't stand the judgmental likes of you, who deems him self worthy of
casting lack of worth upon others words/product. Which i might add is the
only reason that this thread started in the first place. If "Bud" hadnt
have deemed himself God and decided to have run down my abillity/creation
then he would never have had the need to come here and try n flame me to the
extent he has.

One more thing, you mention that newsgroups are wonderful in that there is
no need for lots of small posting with minor points and that ppl dont need
to rush in their responses. As I have already pointed out, the "minor
postings" point is already incorrect. I would know also like to put it to
you that newsgroups are often also referred to as "discussion" groups.
Discussion involved conversation does it not ? how many conversation have
you had where you say something, the others in your coversation say
something, and thats it ? conversation over ? Not many i doubt. No wait
you are Godly right ? You only have to speak once because your words can
never be wrong ? You simply deem all others words to be worthless, hence
only need for you to speak once. No i didnt think so. Its called
discussion, and during discussion, other people's contributions will spark
another point that you have to contribute to a conversation. Its an
amazing tool discussion, i think you will find that some of the greatest
ideas/inventions/creations in the modern world wouldnt have come about with
discussion.

"And yes, I'm very judgmental. But unfortunately, I also tend to be right
about these sort of things. ;P When you've been around the NGs this
long, you tend to notice a lot of patterns..." - yet another echo of "Bud",
you've been doing it for so long and no one else has huh ? Let me explain
something my friend, i would hardly say my experience of the net is limited,
and i have been about newsgroups for many years. In my experience it's ppl
such as you that only wish to contribute whines about HOW other ppl post
rather response relevant to the posts that degredates the whole ideal.
Part of that ideal being freedom of speech.

on that note, when you're a ng moderator then you have power to speak in the
way you have, until then i suggest you start another thread entitled
"Whines" so that i may exercise the simple and common sense approach of
"Don't like, don't read it". thanks

lots of love and kisses

kris[Sun.Of.Solaris.]

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Mar 2, 2002, 9:23am

Hamster

read my posts please, i have refrained from bad language on the whole, on
the most part you will see that the bad language only appears in the
telegrams that i sent to BinaryBud, and even then you will see it is at a
minimal in comparison to the abuse he sent me.

I agree the cool approach does work. Afterall i think its been proved
here, "Bud" doesnt appear to be posting much. It would seem that with out
any need for me to loose my cool or temper and flame him in return, that he
has exposed himself for what he really is.

I am just tired of reading the posts by ppl that simply want to whine about
other ppls points, rather than make any contribution in returning a response
to the points. It's highly judgemental, and not only that, there are
probably a whole heep of HIGHLY intelligent ppl that want to make a post but
are now to scared to posted for fear of someone whining about it and TRYING
to make them look at fool. If you have something to say that is relevant
to a thread, then say it, dont worry about some judgemental self esteem
ridden fool like "goober king" trying his "i think i own the ng because i
have been here years and think i have power" tactics. I think most ppl
normally get about a 1/3 of the way through that type of post and realise
"ooops whiner, next post".

any way said my piece YET AGAIN

lots of love and kisses

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Mar 2, 2002, 8:00pm

not wat your personal email to me said ;)


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Mar 2, 2002, 8:09pm

:)

this WILL be entertainment

lots of love and kisses

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Mar 2, 2002, 8:10pm

yuh good plan, like the flaming post initiators
do you really thing i would be bothering with this if "Bud" hadnt have
decided he wanted to try n slur/insult me in public ?

wake up

lots of love and kisses

kris[SunOfSolaris]

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Mar 2, 2002, 9:42pm

lmao, me show every one what i'm really like ? Do you have any idea how
many ppl i have come to my world, despite your attempt to slur it, and tell
me they never knew you were the way you have shown in this thread ?

omg, and how childish to say my exact same words , from about 50 posts ago,
at me

*yawn*

bud, you've been shown to be full of bs and a sore sorry loser, give up

& Bud do you suppose your friend High Flying Flag(citno : 282575 just incase
he decides he wants to use SunOfSolaris as his name for a while again) is
going to scare me to ? lol just like you didnt ? Wonder who its going to
be next that you try to get come try scare tactics with me Bud ? give up,
it doesnt work

lots of love and kisses

kris[SunOfSolaris]

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Mar 2, 2002, 6:58pm

hey that dead bit sounds handy ;) maybe like you can take over in his
absence ;) GOOD NEWS :) :)



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Mar 2, 2002, 8:20pm

Mar 2, 2002, 9:37pm

please dont double post to my thread
its a waste of bandwidth and also a pain in the ass to read

whining in the uk is moaning on and on, which alot of ppl here seem to be
doing about something which they never had to get involved in, so yes you
are very much into whining, go hang out in your pink village, whiner

lots of love and kisses

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Mar 2, 2002, 10:03pm

Ok, but if ppl like you continue to have your "two cents worth", and further
attack me, then i am going to continue posting responses that repeat what i
have already said, until such time as ppl learn to read what i say and
realise that the only reason i am responding is IN DEFENSE of your attacks.

There are only a few type of ppl who wouldnt understand this, The Ignorant,
The Blind and The Illiterate. Which one are you ?

The thread would not even be here if the initiator hadnt felt the urge to
attempt slurring.

lots of love and kisses, btw that's a beautiful name, kellee, one of my
favourites :)

kris[SunOfSolaris]

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god my fingers hurt !!!!! btw m sending the bill for a new keyboard to the
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Mar 2, 2002, 10:31pm

the name is lovely :)

MEGA LOTS OF LOVE AND KISSES FOR YOU

kris[SunOfSolaris]

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Mar 2, 2002, 9:36pm

LMFAO

what are you on ?

"i will make you a bot , a bot you wont ferget, but i doubt i will get a
CyAward for it, but i am sure i will get a recognition amongst MY peers for"

how is that a threat ?

and you used to work for an IP right ? i think you mean an ISP ? So i
hardly credit your claim with any truth. I did actually used to work for
an ISP, job previous to the last in fact, and we also used to get threat
mails about users, we took them REAL serious, we used to highlite them
respond with a nice, "we take these matters extremely seriously" type
reponse, n then press the key marked DELETE.

You greeted me ? You did ? lmao, you ignored me, not one of you had the
curtesy to say a word, even after i had taken time away from defending my
self to attempt to help you sort out your IE6 problem, which i am sure if
you really did work for an ISP in any role where you would come into contact
with the threat mails, you would have been able to fix yourself.

good luck with your SLY Awards.

lots of love and kisses

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Mar 2, 2002, 10:15pm

and where in that log is the welcome you spoke of ? Would you like me to
post the full transcript from the moment i came to the world to the moment
you ejected me ?

and everything in those grams i already quoted myself as saying in my
previous post, so what was the point in the cut and paste ?

i suggest you post that log to my isp, and please please be sure to cut and
paste the response you get to this thread.

Lots of love and kisses

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Mar 2, 2002, 10:40pm

and who at any point said it wasnt ?

but i apparently sent a threat ? i posted my words here, and so did ABP,
they matched

i still dont see any threat ? i also dont see where i was supposedly
welcomed to the world ? Just some more bs talk right ? like the rest of
this thread.

any way, shortly i shall make a post that i am sure you have all been
waiting for :)

lots of love and kisses

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Mar 2, 2002, 10:48pm

now you say you didnt welcome me ?
you said in your first post you did, is there anything else that you arent
quite really got said or not ?

lots of love and kisses

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Mar 3, 2002, 7:43pm

i refer you to previous posts

Mar 3, 2002, 6:02pm

"and since your not in the know how could you say i was not based in
fact? "
yes you are right i am in not in any know of you, you either refuse or cant
provide any evidence to support your claims !!!!!!!!!! I have been asking
for this all along ? what are you saying now Bud, that EVERYTHING you said
was LIES ?

"everything else said between him and I was a tit for tat thing tempers out
of hand "
is that what this means ? You lied about all the claims ??? if thats the
case Bud, just say so, n its all over, no problem. Oh n one more thing
Bud, as i have also been saying all along, speak for yourself, not me, stop
telling me what i am, what i can do , and now weather or not i lost my
temper !!! LMAO, i was sat here laffing at you dig your own hole, the
whole time you were telegramming me, and am still doing that now.

Read some of your colleagues re port scanning. It is only a suggestion
that hacking activities may be going on. As i have said a million times
now, i was demonstrating to you that your "bots" do not do everything that
every one elses do and i had no intention of hacking you, just simple make a
point and hope you learnt a lesson from making false claims. Doesn't
appear you have.

Yes Bob i agree you have been acting like a "sore kid", its too bad that you
are 46 years old and have to act this way isnt it.

"especially the ports he was scanning", OMG, wait one sec, let me cut n
paste the ini file for the bot :-

21
23
80
139
110
119
1521
1533
12345

thats it, lmao, only 1 port that would even possible relate now to a
possible hack threat, that being 12345(Netbus) however even protection has
long since been implemented in most desktop firewalls and even the in virus
checkers to prevent the trojan from even being passed.

139 the old Winnuke port, long since patched out of windows, since Winsock
2.

1533, Virtual places server port or Cerberus protection, hardly like i could
"hack" you via that. 1521, Oracle listener port, Yuh man m going to "hack"
you thru that to :) lmao, do your home work man.

the rest of the ports are all commonly used and known values m sure i dont
need to go into them here.

dood, wake up will you, stop being an ass, admit you were wrong, admit you
talked a whole heap of bs, or prove yourself, or, just be quiet.

cheers

Sun

Mar 3, 2002, 6:46pm

I know about the port values as any user of the net for some years would.
Also networking/network sercurity, as a part of my previous job, and
internet support as another job, would enhance that knowledge to.

Yes Bud, you do lose for sure, right from the point you decided to pretend
to be some great AW Guru/God/Hacker, and attempt scare tactics with me you
had lost. It was lots of fun laughing at you tho. Some of the things you
said, oh man, especially "i was playing all of those games in the 70's,
remember telnet and lynx", omg too funny, and blatently obvious that what
little knowledge you do have has come from reading this newsgroup ;) (lol,
there is a little implication to you all there folks, if you bright enuff to
spot it, which i dare say you wont, judging by the content of your posts,
and the easily biased minds that you have ;) )

But Bud, there is still one thing i am waiting for. Evidence/support of
ANY of the claims you have made both in this newsgroup and the telegrams you
sent me, or you to specify exactly what you were lieing about in your
temper, or to be quiet. Until such time as one of these occurs, we shall
continue.

cheers

Sun

Mar 3, 2002, 7:39pm

omg , my use of the english language was being questioned a moment ago :-

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a port Lynx for DOS(ms-dos to be specific), the site i sent you also shows
you that to. Too bad your information is a little incorrect from your
friend isnt it ? A) you get the dates of its use in your previous posts,
TOTALLY incorrect, as supported by me in submitting a link for one of the
Official Lynx FAQ site mirrors to you which tell you the dates it was
developed and disto'd. B) you dont even realise that its a text based
browser, and not as you claim an "email program"

> you keep asking for me to answer these "claims" i have no answers for the
> likes of you you have shown that for the last few days give it up and
> show your answers to your claims heheheh :)

How do i answer my own claims prey tell ???? Jesus that makes sense. I
have already backed up all of my words, you as yet have backed up none.

> you nothing but a spewing flamwe thrower and what do flames do? they
burn
> out eventually...:)

the customary BinaryBud insult at the end of each email ? Well it least it
shows a little in the way of structure, which i dare say his code doesnt,
just like the rest of his language.

man you and your friends are a riot.

cheers

Sun


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