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Feb 28, 2002, 7:45pm

This is a warning to all those who have not protected themselves....Do Not enter this world : SunLand as it stands now when
you say hello ...... his bot it will do a port scan on your machine so see what is "open" BTW mine checked out pretty good
hehehehe but...be forwarned... if your not secure then do not do this. this guy is up to no good people....

Leo :)

Feb 28, 2002, 9:39pm

In response to this silly man, please read some of the following telegrams
posted to my by Leo, (please read my comments following) :-

Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 17:29:
i was coding idiot before you had your diapers removed LOL

Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 17:30:
Try 72 idiot i started with COBOL remember that ? lol

Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 17:32:
i've coded in them all...... lanuage is nothing.. logic rulez

Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 17:39:
this is all elementary stuff punk all easyly gleed off the web..... shit
i've forgot most of that shit..... and like i said i do not need to prove
a thing to you..... tell ya what.... when you lose your access to AW let
me know...;)

Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 17:43:
www.leomauk.com idiot...;) it's an old site not done a thing with it for
years but my resume is there idiot...;)

Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 17:45:
what the fuck you talking about hehehe i code for a living asshole i
can write anything you want boner.... explain that last post

Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 17:46:
i wrote those before you were walking asshole and made a ton of cash on
them too hehhehe live and learn i'm done with your time wasting
embelishment prove yourself idiot

Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 17:48:
that is old shit idiot....done in QB actually bonehead

Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 18:15:
i am quite proud of my accomplishments all self taught never need anyone
to show me the ropes heheheh looks like you need to figure that part
out huh? :) and like i said i code in what ever is needed at the time
language means nothing

Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 18:18:
i never when to a uni idiot read again self taught.... i also am a
bench technician :) i build and repair PC's chip level ...;)

Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 18:30:
heheh well since you can't find out my info for some reason i'm
actually 46 and oh BTW your ISP is gonna have fun with ya when they
get the transcripts from our convorsations on how your trying to hack AW
:) lol heheh love it...:)

Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 18:56:
oh and BTW your cit is 345704 joined in Dec :)

Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 18:57:
i got it without being in AW smart ass

Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 18:58:
that's cause you don't know enough about me YET ;)

Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 20:30:
LOL i did RoboBuilder 2 years BEFORE the SDK was even available
bonehead...:) read up on it i won an award for that stupid code too...:)

Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 20:32:
actually i have some kewl bot's i've done with the SDK...:) no one has
done what i've done with bots...;) ask around if anyone knows me in AW..:)

Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 20:33:
lol cause i'm always ahead of the curve....lol

So as you can see, Leo is some what arrogant about his bot's, seems to think
he is some kind of 'Bot God' and the AW community owes him a favour. The
reason i showed him the experimental bot was simply to highlight the fact
that his bots dont do EVERYTHING that ANYONE else's do.

As for up to no good, and this goes for you to Joeman, no i was not up to
good at all, simply proving a point to a jumped up wannabe nothing more.
LOL and as for you joeman, coming in my world along with the rest of the
stream of "hardore 'haxx0rs'", i dont care who you are or what you think you
are, and as for your "prngstate" and how you have the "aw crypto", lol, what
the hell do i care.

ITS JUST AN EXPERIMENTAL BOT I WROTE FOR JOKES, NOTHING MORE !!!!!

so all of the wannabe haxx0rs that want to keep on coming in my world n
snooping for info,
a) i dont have any ;)
b) if i did you really think i would give it to you ?
c) dont waste your time

one final world, Leo, thanks for all the publicity man, i guess you dont
loose graciously do you ? Wake up, you are not GOD, you are not the owner
of AW, you may have won some awards for yout bots, but, this does not mean
the AW community owes you a favour.

look forward to speaking to all the PK's & script kiddies who are now
evidently going to be tailing me for the rest of my AW days.

thanks

kris






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Feb 28, 2002, 9:52pm

BinaryBud has been around for ages and I certainly appreciate his post warning
users of a malicious bot. If it is true it surely would not be the first corrupt
bot used to steal information from unsuspecting users. As for the words in your
telegram war you fail to disclose what you said to him to inflame him. As for
language... I am a peaceful and fair man myself but show me enough stupidity or
audacity and I too will label a person with a few four letter colorful
expressions.
I agree with Binary on this one... The world is well avoided so long as there is
a questionable bot in it.


[View Quote] > In response to this silly man, please read some of the following telegrams
> posted to my by Leo, (please read my comments following) :-
>
> Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 17:29:
> i was coding idiot before you had your diapers removed LOL
>
> Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 17:30:
> Try 72 idiot i started with COBOL remember that ? lol
>
> Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 17:32:
> i've coded in them all...... lanuage is nothing.. logic rulez
>
> Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 17:39:
> this is all elementary stuff punk all easyly gleed off the web..... shit
> i've forgot most of that shit..... and like i said i do not need to prove
> a thing to you..... tell ya what.... when you lose your access to AW let
> me know...;)
>
> Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 17:43:
> www.leomauk.com idiot...;) it's an old site not done a thing with it for
> years but my resume is there idiot...;)
>
> Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 17:45:
> what the fuck you talking about hehehe i code for a living asshole i
> can write anything you want boner.... explain that last post
>
> Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 17:46:
> i wrote those before you were walking asshole and made a ton of cash on
> them too hehhehe live and learn i'm done with your time wasting
> embelishment prove yourself idiot
>
> Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 17:48:
> that is old shit idiot....done in QB actually bonehead
>
> Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 18:15:
> i am quite proud of my accomplishments all self taught never need anyone
> to show me the ropes heheheh looks like you need to figure that part
> out huh? :) and like i said i code in what ever is needed at the time
> language means nothing
>
> Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 18:18:
> i never when to a uni idiot read again self taught.... i also am a
> bench technician :) i build and repair PC's chip level ...;)
>
> Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 18:30:
> heheh well since you can't find out my info for some reason i'm
> actually 46 and oh BTW your ISP is gonna have fun with ya when they
> get the transcripts from our convorsations on how your trying to hack AW
> :) lol heheh love it...:)
>
> Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 18:56:
> oh and BTW your cit is 345704 joined in Dec :)
>
> Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 18:57:
> i got it without being in AW smart ass
>
> Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 18:58:
> that's cause you don't know enough about me YET ;)
>
> Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 20:30:
> LOL i did RoboBuilder 2 years BEFORE the SDK was even available
> bonehead...:) read up on it i won an award for that stupid code too...:)
>
> Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 20:32:
> actually i have some kewl bot's i've done with the SDK...:) no one has
> done what i've done with bots...;) ask around if anyone knows me in AW..:)
>
> Telegram from BinaryBud, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 20:33:
> lol cause i'm always ahead of the curve....lol
>
> So as you can see, Leo is some what arrogant about his bot's, seems to think
> he is some kind of 'Bot God' and the AW community owes him a favour. The
> reason i showed him the experimental bot was simply to highlight the fact
> that his bots dont do EVERYTHING that ANYONE else's do.
>
> As for up to no good, and this goes for you to Joeman, no i was not up to
> good at all, simply proving a point to a jumped up wannabe nothing more.
> LOL and as for you joeman, coming in my world along with the rest of the
> stream of "hardore 'haxx0rs'", i dont care who you are or what you think you
> are, and as for your "prngstate" and how you have the "aw crypto", lol, what
> the hell do i care.
>
> ITS JUST AN EXPERIMENTAL BOT I WROTE FOR JOKES, NOTHING MORE !!!!!
>
> so all of the wannabe haxx0rs that want to keep on coming in my world n
> snooping for info,
> a) i dont have any ;)
> b) if i did you really think i would give it to you ?
> c) dont waste your time
>
> one final world, Leo, thanks for all the publicity man, i guess you dont
> loose graciously do you ? Wake up, you are not GOD, you are not the owner
> of AW, you may have won some awards for yout bots, but, this does not mean
> the AW community owes you a favour.
>
> look forward to speaking to all the PK's & script kiddies who are now
> evidently going to be tailing me for the rest of my AW days.
>
> thanks
>
> kris
>
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Feb 28, 2002, 10:04pm

Incase you hadnt noticed Sherlock, the AW client doesnt keep log of sent
telegrams, so including those are a little hard. However, briefly and to
the point, i simply told the guy where to get off, and he wasnt God, and the
AW community didnt owe him a favour.

He came back with those telegram messages when he realised that he wasnt the
only one who could write bots, and his were not so ahead of their time, and
he wasnt the guru of all code. The man simply cant take it when some one
out there mite just know a little more than him, or can code as good as him,
if not better being as his bots are all simple ActiveApp and SendKeys
commands in Visual Basic.

"BinaryBud has been around for ages and I certainly appreciate his post
warning users of a malicious bot. " i am sure he was relying on users
feeling that to :)

Still beleive what you will, i am sure the PK's can look at telegram logs
and work out what was going on.

kris[SunOfSolaris]


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Feb 28, 2002, 10:07pm

BinaryBud

you do make some assumptions dont you ?

first one being your grandure

second one being "as it stands now when you say hello ...... his bot it will
do a port scan on your machine "

no BinaryBill, it is not activated by "hello" its activated by any speach at
all

thank you kindly

lots of love

kris[SunOfSolaris]

xxxxxx
xxxxxx
xxxxxx

i'm totally convinced that you are just upset and a little riled that you
didnt do it first ........


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Mar 1, 2002, 12:11am

well said mate
Leo, is a little annoying, but i am sure i can leave him be now. Silly VB
script kiddy, needs to grow up n realise he isnt all he thinks he is :)
Who cant code VB ? i think my grandma even did a bit. You'd have thought
at his age he would have grown up enuff to realise this by now.
cheers baron

kris[SunOfSolaris]

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Mar 1, 2002, 12:18am

There is a couple little programs that can record outgoing telegram
transmission. I suggest you get one of them in case you're asked for that
info again :). They're good for proving your point as well.

-Silenced

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Mar 1, 2002, 12:41am

m sure i could knock one up if i was that worried
m sure the PK's can read the telegram logs at AW to sort the problem out

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Mar 1, 2002, 12:51am

I'm pretty sure the uniserver doesn't log telegram data sent through it.
Even if it did they wouldn't be giving the PK's access to that data :).
That's why most of them ask you for the telegrams you recieved.

-Silenced

Mar 1, 2002, 12:53am

Well my point was more that you arn't worth his time, don't twist what I
said into support for you. I think it was pretty clear that I wasn't saying
I was upset that bud wasn't "not acting his age" or thinking he was "all
that", but rather that he wasted his time on an rude arrogant bot kid. And
following my own advise, this is the last you'll hear of it from me.

Mar 1, 2002, 1:25am

hmmmm i know different ;)

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Mar 1, 2002, 1:28am

Really? Can I see some of the proof you have it? No offense, I'm just
skeptical about that.

-Silenced

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Mar 1, 2002, 1:34am

sorry, wont provide evidence

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Mar 1, 2002, 1:43am

Well, I just asked Caring about that, she said no they do not have access.

Telegram from Caring, sent just now:
no...PKs don't have access to server telegram logs....but if we need to know
who ejected whom or who said something in chat...that kind of thing, then
AWCOM usually works with us

Although AW might, I still doubt that the server actually logs telegram
data.

-Silenced

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Mar 1, 2002, 1:45am

beleive me it does

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Mar 1, 2002, 1:47am

we could go around circles on this one
normally i will prove what i say
which is what sparked this whole thread off in the first place
how ever, this time i wont
lets just end the topic of logged telegrams here, if it makes you happy you
win, yada yada yada


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Mar 1, 2002, 1:48am

lol talking of things that just happened
u just got a telegram
and BinaryBud is in my world again

[SUNBOT]: Hello, BinaryBud
*GONE*

whats he on ?
he seems desperate to prove something, lol

lots of love n kisses

kris[SunOfSolaris]

xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Mar 1, 2002, 1:50am

Oh, then again, may I see your proof? The pk's clearly have no access to
such a thing as you stated earlier. I just asked Caring if she knew if the
uniserver makes telegram logs.. she said:

Telegram from Caring, sent just now:
not to my knowledge

Telegram from Caring, sent just now:
I don't believe they can log telegrams....I have never heard of
it...however, anything is possible....but PKs are not privie to it even if
they do

If you can show me clear proof of this, I can believe you. Until then..
it's still a great chance that the server doesn't. It would still take a
long time to cyphon through all the telegram data too.

-Silenced

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Mar 1, 2002, 1:51am

I'd just like some proof, it's not about winning. Just curious about what
the server is doing ;)

-Silenced

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Mar 1, 2002, 1:53am

The Uni Server only stores telegrams in it's data base until the user logs into
AW and they are delivered to the user's pc.

[View Quote] > Oh, then again, may I see your proof? The pk's clearly have no access to
> such a thing as you stated earlier. I just asked Caring if she knew if the
> uniserver makes telegram logs.. she said:
>
> Telegram from Caring, sent just now:
> not to my knowledge
>
> Telegram from Caring, sent just now:
> I don't believe they can log telegrams....I have never heard of
> it...however, anything is possible....but PKs are not privie to it even if
> they do
>
> If you can show me clear proof of this, I can believe you. Until then..
> it's still a great chance that the server doesn't. It would still take a
> long time to cyphon through all the telegram data too.
>
> -Silenced
>
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Mar 1, 2002, 1:55am

Ah, then it doesn't actually "log" them. It would just store them
temporarily. I didn't think about that log on part.. must've just slipped
my mind.

-Silenced

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Mar 1, 2002, 1:55am

do u have msn ?


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Mar 1, 2002, 2:00am

admittedly i may have been wrong, infact i am wrong according to caring,
about PK's looking thru the directly, but read the latter part of her first
response

> telegram

which doesnt say yes or no really as to weather the server does or not

as for syphoning thru them, well not really a problem either is it ? :-

select * from Telegrams, Memebrs where Members.name = "username" and
Telegrams.CitNo=Members.CitNo;

that is of course if AW use a sql compatable database at the back end ......
which judging from the rest of it, i dare say they DONT

lots of love and kisses

kris[SunOfSolaris]

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Mar 1, 2002, 2:08am

Yeah but in her later gram says she doesn't think tgram logs exist. Yeah,
they user their own form of a database.. might be compatible with SQL
though. But even then.. you'll get a lot of telegrams.. everyone in the
users history. Unless you know the exact date of which the offending stuff
was sent :).

-Silenced

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Mar 1, 2002, 3:01am

true enuff

here you go

select * from Telegrams, Members where Members.name = "username" and
Telegrams.CitNo=Members.CitNo order by Telegrams.date;

or

select * from Telegrams, Members where Members.name = "username" and
Telegrams.CitNo=Members.CitNo and (Telegrams.date between <date1> and
<date2>) order by Telegrams.date;

;)

btw i just thought, i'm totally sure, but the file extensions for the
database files in the client are sorting ring bells of Interbase, Interbase,
Interbase, but its late n i cant be assed to go check it out.

later man

kris[SunOfSolaris]




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Mar 1, 2002, 12:13pm

hey gang;

All i can say at this time is i am sorry you all had to hear my end of this... he was fer sure pushing my buttons hehehe .....and
yes these were my words...this guy is nothing but trouble.... and he had me upset at the fact he was taking advantage of innocent
citizens.... I was also told by AW that he has been openly trying to gleen passwords from newbies with the "intent" of "helping"
them.... i don't like parasites like this guy and he needs to go elsewhere to harrass people.... :) anyone wanting his side of
the "discussion" can email me and request it.

Leo :)


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Mar 1, 2002, 12:17pm

boy yur sharp son...;) actually reponds to any thing you say wow.....i'm impressed now...lol


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Mar 1, 2002, 12:29pm

for some reson i think i need to post this just to set the scene on this loser.......
i tele'd him after he was harrassing people at the gate....asking him to chill out at the gate..... this is his next few tele's
back to me.....

Telegram from SunOfSolaris, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 12:31 PM:
suggest u find out a lil about me before u think you clever enuff to run your mouth my way kiddy


Telegram from SunOfSolaris, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 12:31 PM:
dont think that perhaps i was looking for ejection ? u dumb fvk

Telegram from SunOfSolaris, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 12:31 PM:
its called "protocol mapping" you dumb fvk

Telegram from SunOfSolaris, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 12:32 PM:
well if u were 1/2 brite you would know what i was doing by now

Telegram from SunOfSolaris, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 12:32 PM:
i have written a proxy that allows me to connect to aw via, thus i can decipher AW's protocol, once i have it deciphered and
mapper, i can then write my own interfaces to aw

Telegram from SunOfSolaris, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 12:33 PM:
been here a month already sun shine, so bout time u wake up n realise that you are NOT the l3370 u obviously think you are

Telegram from SunOfSolaris, sent Thu Feb 28, 2002 12:34 PM:
oh ? heh think as you will idiot script kiddy and let me get on with my business


well his smart ass responses go on and on and on....like i said this loser is nothing but troulbe...watch out fer him...:)

Laterz people...

Leo :)






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Mar 1, 2002, 1:14pm

since we are publishing home pages here now...lol
http://www.kris.cwc.net/
This is Chris's Home page......
send him some email saying hi....he needs something to do with his time....
:)



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Mar 1, 2002, 1:51pm

You are not understanding this are you "Bud", no one is trying to impress
you, no one ever was, you are NOT god, to me you're pretty much nothing.
Why would i want to prove anything to you ? You're some old dood who
thinks he can code, because he has written a couple of lame commercial
childs programs, lmao, "Barbie" and "Creature Creator", and then some lame
bot, "RoboBuilder"(ppl check out www.leomauk.com for information on these
'programs'). I dont rate you, and i think thats partly what you are so
upset about, the fact that i dont "ph33r ju". Go find another bubble
"Bud", this one has been burst.

I was merely proving a point to you in the first place. You sound awfully
belittled, and are acting it to. Again in the post that you are quoting
me, i was not trying to impress you either, just pointing out your mistakes,
YET AGAIN.

lots of love

kris[SunOfSolaris]

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