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Jan 2, 2001, 12:34am

Hi,
I have an idea for a new bot. I'd like to know if someone is interested in
making it?
In return for my ideas, you would allow me to use the bot. I think this
could be a profitable bot for someone who is trying to sell bots. I do
modeling, I don't do bots. hehehe if you can do it right, I'd be willing
to trade some of my models for usage rights.
If anyone is interested, contact me in AW.

Paul

Jan 5, 2001, 6:05am

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ok here it is: I think this is a prety complete description.

Bot: Stagehand (don't much care what it's called)
Built in commands (minimum):
LoadScript <filesname>
Exit terminates bot
Build <object> <coords> places <object> and the specified =
<coords>
Move <object> <current coords> <destination coords> self explanatory =
I hope.
Rotate <object> <coords> <L or R # of key clicks or degrees, whatever =
required to work>
Action <object> <coords> <action fields commands> insert action =
cammand in to action field.
{ other useful command if you think of any }
Wait <time delay> (optional auto exec mode script command)=20
specifies a delay in auto execute mode.
Continue (optional auto exec mode script command)=20
continue to the next user command in the =
script file and run it.

NOTE: I realize that specifying coordinates for the object is a real =
problem since one doesn't know the REAL COMPLETE cordinates of the =
objects aka 1.25n 2.3e 0.05a, etc. The only solution I have for that =
is to use BuildBot to load the objects in an area so one can get the =
exact coords for the object to be manipulated (or use StageBot Build =
command to palce the objects in known positions). So the bot should be =
able to report errors of objects not found at the given coords so the =
user can troubleshoot the object placement and not crash. Also, =
destination coords should be limited (maybe to within 40 meters) of/and =
checked against the current coords of the object affected so people =
don't send objects to hell and gone, and 'out of bounds' coords =
reported.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Script file:
A script file is a list of User defined Action commands (not action =
field).
A user defined command might be:

(opencurtain)=20
Move <curtain.rwx> <1.0N 1.0E 0.0A>> <1.0N 2.0E 0.0A>

There may be multiple user commands per script file and and multiple Bot =
commands per User command.

Bot operation: Bot works in a combination of 2 modes.
(1) Whispers to bot to LoadScript <filename>. Bot loads the script =
file.
(2) Whispers to bot of <User commands> in the script file (bot finds the =
user command and executes it up to the next User command and stops and =
waits for further commands (unless the last built in command was =
Continue in which case the bot executes the next User command, etc., =
etc.
Note: it's not necessarily my intention that the bot execute Built in =
commands (except LoadScript and Exit) from whispers, but that would be a =
cool option. Also, the bot should only respond to the Bot owner or =
someone with the owners privs.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
#Sample Script file
(opencurtains)
Move curt1.rwx 1.0n 1.0e 0.0a 1.0n 2.0e 0.0a
Move curt1.rwx 1.0n 1.0w 0.0a 1.0n 2.0w 0.0a

(closecurtains)
Move curt1.rwx 1.0n 2.0e 0.0a 1.0n 1.0e 0.0a
Move curt1.rwx 1.0n 2.0w 0.0a 1.0n 1.0w 0.0a

(lightson)
action stlight.rwx 0.5n 0.5e 0.4a "create visible on"
action stlight.rwx 0.5n 0.5w 0.4a "create visible on"

(lightsoff)
action stlight.rwx 0.5n 0.5e 0.4a "create visible no"
action stlight.rwx 0.5n 0.5w 0.4a "create visible no"

(movehorse1)
Rotate horse.rwx 1.5n .5e .2a L90 # L=3Dleft R=3Dright
Wait 4000 # 4 seconds
Move horse.rwx 1.5n .5e .2a 3.5n .5e .2a
Action horse.rwx 3.5n .5e .2a "create noise horsewhinney.wav"
Wait 4000
Continue # execute next command

(turnhorse1left) # this cmd can be run from prior command or by a =
whisper
Rotate horse.rwx 1.5n .5e .2a L180 # L=3Dleft R=3Dright
# pauses here

{ more command or end of file NOTE: end of file does nothing. user =
commands can be whispered to the bot over and over until (a) a new =
LoadScript command is issued or Exit to terminate the bot }

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<DIV>ok here it is:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I think this is a prety complete=20
description.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Bot:&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Stagehand&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;=20
(don't much care what it's called)</DIV>
<DIV>Built in commands (minimum):</DIV>
<DIV>LoadScript &lt;filesname&gt;</DIV>
<DIV>Exit&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; terminates bot</DIV>
<DIV>Build &lt;object&gt; &lt;coords&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
places &lt;object&gt; and the specified &lt;coords&gt;</DIV>
<DIV>Move &lt;object&gt; &lt;current coords&gt; &lt;destination=20
coords&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; self explanatory I hope.</DIV>
<DIV>Rotate &lt;object&gt; &lt;coords&gt; &lt;L or R # of key clicks or =
degrees,=20
whatever required to work&gt;</DIV>
<DIV>Action &lt;object&gt; &lt;coords&gt; &lt;action fields=20
commands&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; insert action cammand in to action =
field.</DIV>
<DIV>{ other useful command if you think of any }</DIV>
<DIV>Wait &lt;time delay&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (optional auto exec mode =
script=20
command) </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
specifies a delay in auto execute mode.</DIV>
<DIV>Continue&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(optional=20
auto exec mode script command) </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
continue to the next user command in the script file and run it.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>NOTE:</STRONG> I realize that specifying coordinates for =
the object=20
is a real problem since one doesn't know the REAL COMPLETE cordinates of =
the=20
objects aka 1.25n 2.3e&nbsp; 0.05a, etc.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The only =
solution I=20
have for that is to use BuildBot to load the objects in an area so one =
can get=20
the exact coords for the object to be manipulated (or use StageBot Build =
command=20
to palce the objects in known positions). So the bot should be able to =
report=20
errors of objects not found at the given coords so the user can =
troubleshoot the=20
object placement and not crash.&nbsp; Also, destination coords should be =
limited=20
(maybe to within 40 meters)&nbsp;of/and checked against the current =
coords of=20
the object affected so people don't send objects to hell and gone, and =
'out of=20
bounds' coords reported.</DIV>
<DIV>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D</DIV>
<DIV>Script file:</DIV>
<DIV>A script file is a list of User defined Action commands (not action =

field).</DIV>
<DIV>A user defined command might be:</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>(opencurtain)</STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Move &lt;curtain.rwx&gt; &lt;1.0N 1.0E =
0.0A&gt;&gt;=20
&lt;1.0N 2.0E 0.0A&gt;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>There may be&nbsp;multiple user commands per script file and and =
multiple=20
Bot commands per User command.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Bot operation:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Bot works in a combination of 2=20
modes.</DIV>
<DIV>(1) Whispers to bot to LoadScript =
&lt;filename&gt;.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Bot=20
loads the script file.</DIV>
<DIV>(2) Whispers to bot of &lt;User commands&gt; in the script file =
(bot finds=20
the user command and executes it up to the next User command and stops =
and waits=20
for further commands (unless the last built in command was Continue in =
which=20
case the bot executes the next User command, etc., etc.</DIV>
<DIV>Note: it's not necessarily my intention that the bot execute Built =
in=20
commands (except LoadScript and Exit) from whispers, but that would be a =
cool=20
option.&nbsp; Also, the bot should only respond to the Bot owner or =
someone with=20
the owners privs.</DIV>
<DIV>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D</DIV>
<DIV>#Sample Script file</DIV>
<DIV>(opencurtains)</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Move curt1.rwx 1.0n 1.0e 0.0a 1.0n 2.0e =
0.0a</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Move curt1.rwx 1.0n 1.0w 0.0a 1.0n 2.0w =
0.0a</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>(closecurtains)</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Move curt1.rwx 1.0n 2.0e 0.0a 1.0n 1.0e =
0.0a</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Move curt1.rwx 1.0n 2.0w 0.0a 1.0n 1.0w =
0.0a</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>(lightson)</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; action stlight.rwx 0.5n 0.5e 0.4a "create =
visible=20
on"</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; action stlight.rwx 0.5n 0.5w 0.4a "create =
visible=20
on"</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>(lightsoff)</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; action stlight.rwx 0.5n 0.5e 0.4a "create =
visible=20
no"</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; action stlight.rwx 0.5n 0.5w 0.4a "create =
visible=20
no"</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>(movehorse1)</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Rotate horse.rwx 1.5n .5e .2a =
L90&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; #=20
L=3Dleft R=3Dright</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Wait 4000&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; # 4 seconds</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Move horse.rwx 1.5n .5e .2a 3.5n .5e .2a</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Action horse.rwx 3.5n .5e .2a "create noise=20
horsewhinney.wav"</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Wait 4000</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Continue&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; # execute next =
command</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>(turnhorse1left)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; # this cmd can be run from prior =
command=20
or by a whisper</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Rotate =
horse.rwx=20
1.5n .5e .2a L180&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; # L=3Dleft R=3Dright</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; # pauses =

here</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>{ more command or end of =
file NOTE: end=20
of file does nothing.&nbsp; user commands can be whispered to the bot =
over and=20
over until (a) a new LoadScript command is issued or Exit to terminate =
the bot=20
}</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3># End of =
script</FONT></DIV>
<DIV></FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"paul" &lt;</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:p-barrow at NOSPAMhome.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>p-barrow at NOSPAMhome.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>&gt; wrote in=20
message </FONT><A href=3D"news:3a513e2a at server1.Activeworlds.com"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>news:3a513e2a at server1.Activeworlds.com</FONT></A><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt; Hi,<BR>&gt; I =
have an idea=20
for a new bot. I'd like to know if someone is interested in<BR>&gt; =
making=20
it?<BR>&gt; In return for my ideas, you would allow me to use the bot. I =
think=20
this<BR>&gt; could be a profitable bot for someone who is trying to sell =

bots.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I do<BR>&gt; modeling, I don't do bots.=20
hehehe&nbsp;&nbsp; if you can do it right, I'd be willing<BR>&gt; to =
trade some=20
of my models for usage rights.<BR>&gt; If anyone is interested, contact =
me in=20
AW.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Paul<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; =
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Nov 7, 1998, 3:47am

AW only does 3D in a Window. The Voodoo 1 and 2 do NOT do 3D in a window,
however, the Voodoo Rush cards (and the new Banshee) do 3D in a window so
are supported. If you have a Voodoo 1 or 2, you are out of luck. But in
some circumstances the D3D driver in AW are worse than just using the MMX
drivers.

Paul

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Sep 5, 1998, 2:47am

No, there's just a million garbage signs and pictures.

Paul

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Sep 5, 1998, 2:54am

No, the AW lib is not a Common pool of objects. It is what you named it, the
AW library.
A Common pool of objects would allow ALL objects in ALL COF owned worlds
(and other worlds that wanted to contributed) to be accessed in ALL COF
worlds (and in other worlds if the owners so desired). THAT's a Common
pool of objects.

Paul

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Sep 5, 1998, 9:11pm

Or how about aw (like in the world list) instead of AW (Active Worlds).
That's what I try to do.

Paul


[View Quote] [View Quote] I was referring to Active Worlds, not AlphaWorld. When you're inconsistent
with acronyms, as you were when meaning AlphaWorld but you used "AW",
confusion will occur. Tip: AW stands for Active Worlds, not AlphaWorld. And
"AW Prime" has to be the lamest name I've ever heard. There is only one
Prime: Optimus Prime. If you HAVE to abbreviate "AlphaWorld", try "Alpha".

>
> I don't think so. What is to prevent someone from lying about the
> registry info. An object that has a registered footprint of 0 x 0 could
> be carefully placed between someone else's objects. Example,
> walk001h.rwx is not registered as being 10m x 10m but 9.990m x 9.990m so
> that walks from different owners can be right up against each other
> without encroaching or leaving a gap. Any object registered as 0 x 0
> could be used to vandalize another's property.

Then have AW check the dimensions. Or have someone at COF (yea right)
validate all new objects people want to use before. I don't care. Remote
object usage isn't going to happen anytime soon anyway.

overlapping
necessarily
don't need
>
> It has nothing to do with z-buffering. Example, where a wall and a floor
> come together, if there is a problem with one of the models then
> RenderWare cannot seem to figure out where one model ends and the other
> begins. If you face the wall straight on, there is no problem. If you
> turn slightly then the intersection between them becomes a zig-zag about
> 1/2m wide (not a pixel problem). Once the browser is "poisoned" it
> screws up on worlds with normally clean models. The only way to fix it
> is to shut down are restart the AW browser and avoid those worlds with
> bad models.

Um...that's z-buffering. Go read the definition at Webopedia. Z-buffering is
the process of calculating which polygons are in front of other polygons.

confusing yourself
necessary.
>
> Too bad Eep², I get paid to think, it has become a habit, I cannot help
> myself -- and I rarely get confused. I was not confused when I wrote the
> previous message, and I'm not confused now. Perhaps you prefer
> incomplete or vague ideas?

I don't prefer babbling. If you don't know COF by now, you obviously haven't
realized you're wasting your energy continuing to babble about things that
won't change ANYTIME soon. COF has their own agenda and this newsgroup is
little more than a cushion to make us feel better and actually think COF
gives a damn about our suggestions...

> BTW has anyone ever mentioned to you that your are intelligent,
> talented, and have the social skills of a power tool?

Yep. And if I want your social commentary, I'll beat it out of you next
time, dig?

Sep 6, 1998, 6:51pm

I disagree Eep. I don't think Roland is the one who needs to be involved in
the initial discussions, but ENZO or JP. I told Roland I had some Objects I
was willing to donate and he told me I should talk to ENZO. So, I think
it's ENZO we should be making suggestions to since ENZO and JP (I believe)
are the ones to decide what will and will not be done. Of course, you can
make the same comment that ENZO and JP never join in the discussions either.

Paul

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Sep 6, 1998, 6:59pm

From what little I have read Zbuffering should only occur when multiple
objects overlap each other at common points of 3D space.

Paul

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Sep 5, 1998, 8:29pm

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The entries go in the aworld.ini file.

[performance]
framerate=3D14
force_visibility=3D1
visibility=3D60

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Sep 7, 1998, 8:41pm

You can not stop the visibility from fluctuating. That is how it is
designed to work. You can set a minimum visibility, but you can't control
the Max. The FPS is what you would LIKE to have but may or may not ever get.
Fewer object renderings mean greater visibility range and vice versa.

Paul

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Sep 9, 1998, 10:34pm

The force_visibility=1 does force the visibility to stay at the minimum you
set, or it does on mine anyway. That's what it's for, to prevent the new
version of the browser from resetting the visibility to 40 on start up.
Aside from that, if the FPS rate goes up while browsing around, then the
visibility will increase. If the FPS goes down then the visibility will
decrease in an attempt to balance out the FPS and Visibility setting you
entered, but the visibility won't go below you minimum setting (which may
cause your FPS to go lower than it otherwise would).
The two are directly related and affect each other.

Paul

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Oct 16, 1998, 8:10pm

Sorry, but I think the idea stinks also.

Paul

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Oct 16, 1998, 8:14pm

Seems to be a better lesson in wasting space to me.

Paul

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Oct 13, 1998, 9:19pm

Of course there will be long downloads because you still have to send it
over serial communication lines at speeds slower than a floppy disk. Even a
satellite link is slower than all but the oldest hard drives and that's
assuming no competing traffic.

Paul

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Oct 16, 1998, 8:21pm

Keep dreaming.

Paul

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Oct 16, 1998, 8:05pm

I agree. I don't want to be subjected to some "game rules" every time I
visit AW. I come here to build and have fun and I've paid my $20 a year to
do so. If some folks want a Virtual Real Life World, then go in together
and buy one and set it up any way you want, but I don't want "Their"
definition of "fun" forced on me.

Paul

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Oct 16, 1998, 7:54pm

You could program the bot to say why though: example:

Bot: Sorry <Touristname>, Tourist are not currently allowed in <worldname>
because <this_reason>. Sorry to have to eject you, but please come back
again <when_you_specify>.

Paul

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Oct 28, 1998, 10:13pm

I have a feeling that is not correct. I suspect AW gets the tourist IP and
mutes him/her until that person logs off of AW. If they reconnect to AW
they are no longer muted. If they use the Login from the menu to change
their name, then AW probably doesn't see that as being a disconnect, so they
stay muted, whereas, if they exit AW and reconnect, then AW gets the persons
IP address again and thus, they are no longer muted. Otherwise, AW would
have to keep track of Tourist IP addresses even after they disconnected and
I can't see COF writing the software in that manner. I could be wrong
though.

Paul

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Nov 3, 1998, 10:41pm

Have you called them during business hours and asked for JP or Rick?

Paul

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Nov 17, 1998, 10:01pm

Let's face it. It's not going to improve a lot with only one programmer
handling the whole project.

Paul

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Nov 19, 1998, 12:02am

Two is not a lot better than one. They need 3 or 4. One or two to work on
the 3D sections, One to work on communications aspects and assist with
overall new features, and One to work on overall new features, with one of
them being coordinator. IMO

Paul

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Nov 19, 1998, 10:38pm

Don't forget world sales and hosting. That should be a good chunk of change.

Paul

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Nov 27, 1998, 6:32pm

So ask them and maybe they will give you a discount on additional licenses.
You won't know if you don't ask.

Paul

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Jan 2, 1999, 6:57pm

When you consider that REAL 3D modeling can have 10's of thousands, even
100's of thousands of polygons, it's not to much to ask that AWB be able to
handle a couple of thousand or less polygons on a relatively few number of
objects. You can't even build a decent realistic scene now without the FPS
dropping to 4 or 5 fps using just the aw objects.

Paul

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Jan 4, 1999, 3:53am

It's just plain no damn fun having to walk around with visibility set to
40-50 just to make AW perform BARELY adequately.

Paul

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Jan 4, 1999, 3:59am

Your saying the new beta is going to lower the FPS by 25%???
Surely COF is not that stupid?

Paul

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Jan 6, 1999, 10:45pm

Sorry, <8fps and the jerky movement and slow rendering bothers me. I
think, on a P233mmx (overclocked to 266) w/64M, I think the AW performance
at GZ's (3-8fps) is pretty pathetic.

Paul

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Jan 6, 1999, 10:55pm

Everyone can't afford to upgrade there computer once a year. I upgraded
mine in the fall of ' 97 from a DX4-100 to my P233mmx (running at 266) w/64M
and voodoo rush video. I can't afford to do it all over again. And I
shouldn't have to just because COF chooses to live in the "old days" of
software 3D rendering. They should get their technology up to date, then if
necessary, I'll try to get my hardware up to date.

Paul

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Jan 11, 1999, 5:14am

Funny, the only 3D cards I know of that ONLY do full screen are Voodoo 1 & 2
cards.

Paul

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Jun 7, 2002, 2:33pm

There are MANY changes to the TS 5 interface with many things rearranged and
some working differently. Also many new features to tools like changing UV
on objects/faces in the info box in real time and seeing them instantly in
3D Solid view mode.
I would not suggest learning TS 4 first. The basics are similar but the
interface and layout is different enough in TS 5 that it's almost like
learning all over again.

Paul

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