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Jan 5, 2005, 6:57pm

Hi folks,

I owe you an apology for todays NG problems. I had to check and cleanup the authorization method for the posting/reading, so I'll have a better understanding how it works.
I had to make sure that the server works in all different circumstances - the cause of the frequent stops.

Thanks you for your understanding!!
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Jan 25, 2005, 5:13pm

Hi folks,

SDK build 40 can be downloaded from http://www.activeworlds.com/sdk/
The Linux counterpart is available at http://www.andras.net/linuxsdk.html

Change history can be seen at http://www.andras.net/linuxsdk.html

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Andras
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Jan 26, 2005, 12:18pm

[View Quote] > Hi folks,
>
> SDK build 40 can be downloaded from http://www.activeworlds.com/sdk/
> The Linux counterpart is available at http://www.andras.net/linuxsdk.html
>
> Change history can be seen at http://www.andras.net/linuxsdk.html
>

FreeBSD version and minor cosmetic changes available at http://www.andras.net/linuxsdk.html .
The included sample bot spawns 3 simple greeter bots around GZ which greets the visitors and echoes locally the chat.

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Andras
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Jan 29, 2005, 9:06pm

[View Quote] Coming soon!

>
> Has been updated to build 40::
>
> http://www.activeworlds.com/sdk/download.htm
>
> No idea if other pages need updating. But Andras' page mentions build
> 41 for Linux, probably not applicable to Windows
> http://www.andras.net/linuxsdk.html

My build numbers follows AWI's builds. I add a beta revision number just in case I change something in the Linux version.

>
> I will wait in any case for the pages updates before updating my
> Xelagots, I don't use aw_data. If nothing else has changed, seems
> unnecessary to hurry and update of my bots.
>
> Alex
>
>

You are right - no real need to upgrade if you are not using aw_data.
OTOH - the new security features probably worth the install - makes the bot more robust against crackers :)


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Andras
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Jan 30, 2005, 6:51am

[View Quote]
>
> You are right - no real need to upgrade if you are not using aw_data.
>
>

I stand corrected - there is still no AW_ATTRIBUTE accessible by the SDK which length's exceeds 255 bytes.

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Andras
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Apr 20, 2001, 7:31am

[View Quote] I still can act as a disassembler when it comes to Z80 or 8085 binary code :)
Andras

Apr 20, 2001, 7:34am

[View Quote] I had 2 40 meg NEC SCSI winchester. We set up as a file/application server around several Z80s using SDLC protocol on out proprietary network. 20 Z80s were hooked up running CP/M!
Andras
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Apr 1, 2005, 7:58am

[View Quote] > Why does this not work properly?
>
> This is only a sample for a real project, the timer works. The timer writes
> saying hello world but the bot does not say hello world nor does it write
> said hello world to the console. Any attempt to call the SDK from the timer
> cause it to exit the sub? Events all work whats up wtih the timer?
>

I'm not a VB expert but I know some about the SDK itself :)
As Rich (scifair) found properly, you were calling the aw_wait(-1) which means it will wait forever for an event.
While you are INSIDE the SDK handling, your timer kicks in and you try to invoke an SDK routine .

As a rule of thumb - if you are using timer to invoke any SDK routine, you should put the aw_wait(0) into the timer itself, so you will not interrupt the SDK itself.

Hope this helps,

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Andras
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May 31, 2005, 5:54am

[View Quote] I assume that your bot is not 7/24 online.
There is no method to get the deleted objects :(
The way it can be handled: if the actual sequence number differs from your recorded one, then re-query the whole cell.
So far I did not find any faster method (this is how Guardbot restarts itself).

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Andras
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Jun 1, 2005, 6:24am

[View Quote] [View Quote] That is how Guardbot works :)

AW browser is doing a full sector query if the sequence number doesn't match AFAIK.

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Andras
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Oct 30, 2005, 10:58am

[View Quote] > $20,000
>
> Thats for tip top quality my good sir.
>
> -Joe
>
[View Quote] Reasonable price! (though I would charge more)

Don't forget - he asks for exclusive rights for such a bot Xelag and Faber developed for years.
I did not even enter to this contest because people just never respect the work and quality you put into the project.

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Andras
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Nov 2, 2005, 5:24pm

[View Quote] > i'd just like to state, AW is not a game! i hate it when people see me on
> activeworlds and say "oh i cant believe you still play that game*. AW isn't
> a game! games have rules. aw is a, emm, platform :) makes me feel alot
> better about spending so much time on it knowing that AW is not a game ^_^
>
> -SWE
>

I second your thoughts!
AW is MUCH MUCH more than a game - it IS the virtual reality!
(Just look the flames and fightings going on :)
Some of us who are familiar with SnowCrash probably can back me up.

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Andras
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Nov 2, 2005, 9:35pm

[View Quote] > I would love to see The Gate have that "garbage bot" thing that sweeps up a
> dead avatar and disposes of it in the trash. ; )
>
>

Hmmm - I should write that "piece of software" :)
<or just ask Strike Rapier to whip it up>

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Andras
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Nov 3, 2005, 6:43am

[View Quote] > class CTrashBot :
> public CBaseBot
> {
> protected:
> IMPLIMENT_STD_AVATARS(CBaseAvatar)
> IMPLIMENT_STD_LOGIN( )
> IMPLIMENT_STD_COMMS( )
>

I know it is a code only but the word still spelled as "implement" instead only impliment :)

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Andras
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Nov 3, 2005, 6:45am

[View Quote] > My bad, that should be
>
> if (GetTickCount() - user->GetLastActionTime() >= 1000 * 60 * 60)
>

AMD and Pentium are chatting.
AMD: how much is 2+2?
Pentium: 5.
AMD: It is not correct!!!
Pentium: But I was fast am I?

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Andras
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Nov 3, 2005, 11:45am

[View Quote] > Except it's spelt IMPLEMENT, not IMPLIMENT.
>
>

Thanks god compilers don't have a spell checker built in :)

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Andras
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Jan 30, 2006, 5:28pm

[View Quote] Hey Matt! Did you check the date of his post?

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Andras
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Feb 27, 2006, 7:00pm

[View Quote] > Is there any difference between propdump version 3 and version 2, other
> than that the carriage return + linefeed is replaced by ASCII 128+127 in
> version 3 instead of 10+127 as in version 2?
>
> Thanks,
> Magine

I don't remember if I ever met with version 2 but version 1 does not have the tilt and roll parameters. Other than that - (and the cr lf) they are identical.

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Andras
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Apr 24, 2006, 5:42pm

[View Quote] > Just a quick question ... I've been trying to think my way around this, but
> I keep coming to the same conclusion and I'd just like to check with those
> that may know or have an opinion what their views are.
>
<snip>

To make the answer short - the AW SDK 3.6 (up to the latest build) does not support multi threading and it is not multi threading safe.

Wait for the 4.x release :)

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Andras
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Apr 29, 2006, 6:21pm

[View Quote] > Neither of these work for me from copying off the webpage ... they look
> right but my bot gets stopped before login and I get an error that says:
> eon2 (bot progy name) number password
>
> Nowhere on the page does it tell me where to input the citnum or password!?
> Is this *old code* perhaps? Or am I suppose to know to replace a certain
> part of the code with actual login data? Help???
>
<snip code>

This is a DOS application and you have to invoke it from a Command Line prompt (Start/Run/cmd.exe)

xxx> cd yourbotpath
yourbotpath> eon2 yourcitnumber yourprivpass <enter>

HTH
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Andras
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May 22, 2006, 2:02pm

[View Quote] <snip>

> **********
> *** aw_cell_next Return Code
> **********
> This one is annoying. As I've done before in other languages, I have a query
> facility for a single cell using the aw_cell_next with a forced value for
> AW_CELL_ITERATOR. Generally this works fine, with the AW_EVENT_CELL_BEGIN,
> AW_EVENT_CELL_OBJECT and AW_EVENT_CELL_END events all being delivered and
> setting the attributes that would be expected. However, the return code for
> the aw_cell_next call is always 74 (No Such Cell). Its not my calculation
> for AW_CELL_ITERATOR, because I've tried setting it to zero (as per docs)
> and the same happens - the events are fired but it returns 74 and
> AW_CELL_ITERATOR is not incremented.
>
>

This error exists only when you are trying to do it in AW. All other worlds seems fine.
AW uses multiple ctree databases due to the sheer size and the iterator just don't work there with the "combine" feature.
Set AW_COMBINE to false and it will work (of course it will be a cell by cell query).

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Andras
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Jun 3, 2006, 5:32am

[View Quote] > Has anyone else had any problems with the SDK hanging / dying on aw_init?
>
> Im simply getting a message box, There was an error starting this
> application.
>
> Event viewer has zip on the matter, looks like a thread just hangs, any
> ideas?
>
> Command Line:
>
> /Od /D "WIN32" /D "_WINDOWS" /D "_DEBUG" /D "WINVER 0x500" /D "_WIN32_WINNT
> 0x500" /D "WIN32_IE 0x500" /D "_CRT_SECURE_NO_DEPRECATE" /D
> "_VC80_UPGRADE=0x0710" /D "_MBCS" /GF /Gm /EHsc /MTd /GS- /Gy /Yu"StdAfx.h"
> /Fp"c:\Documents and Settings\Mark\Desktop\Eclipse Evolution 1\41
> debug\\$stdafx.pch" /Fo"41 debug\\" /Fd"41 debug"\vc80.pdb"" /FR"41 debug\\"
> /nologo /c /Zi /TP /errorReport:prompt
>
> Linker Line:
>
> /OUT:"41 debug\EclipseEvolution.exe" /NOLOGO /MANIFEST:NO
> /DELAYLOAD:"OleAcc.dll" /DEBUG /PDB:"c:\Documents and
> Settings\Mark\Desktop\Eclipse Evolution 1\41 debug\EclipseEvolution.pdb"
> /SUBSYSTEM:WINDOWS /ERRORREPORT:PROMPT ws2_32.lib psapi.lib Kernel32.lib
> wininet.lib winmm.lib gdiplus.lib aw.lib DelayImp.lib
>

Try to run your bot standalone - without the debugger.

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Andras
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Jun 10, 2006, 7:31pm

[View Quote] > If I loose my connection to the world server, my bot's avatar disappears,
> however the bot (MS-Dos console) is still running even tho I don't see the
> bot's avatar or name. Does anyone know how I can have the bot attempt to
> restart after a disconnect ... or program her better so her av shows again
> after a disconnect?
>
> Andras helped me with alot of the programming, I think he used C to do it
> in. I'm using Dev-C++ tho.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Lady NightHawk
>
>
>
>

I can confirm this.
The old SDK used to put the bot back to the world when the world reconnection occurred. The new one doesn't do that :(

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Andras
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Jun 14, 2006, 1:06pm

[View Quote] > I should know this already, but is aw_wait instance-specific or does it
> receive events/callbacks for all instances? I'm going to run into more
> really irritating issues with multi-threading if its not global.
>
> Thanks, Grims
>
>

It is not instance specific.

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Andras
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Jun 15, 2006, 3:15pm

[View Quote] > Nope ... sorry, second event arrives immediately after the first (from
> within aw_enter when its all done sequentially). "Luck" made it look like
> aw_wait was joining in.
>
> Same attributes, but there's definitely two calls to the event handler.
>
>
[View Quote] Yes - this bug is confirmed and already posted to the Beta group :)

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Andras
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Jun 19, 2006, 6:42pm

[View Quote] > After discussion with the Devteam, they have agreed to reinstate the "box"
> method versus the "Sphere" method for the visual view. The change should be
> in effect later today.
>
> May the scavenger hunt continue :-)
>
> Cryonics
>

Thank you!
That was a really generous solution by the company!

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Andras
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Jun 20, 2006, 7:19pm

Hi Folks,

I just wanted to warn you the newsgroup will have a few hiccups while the transition to the 4.1 universe is made for the authentication.
I'll try my best to minimize those mishaps!

Thanks for your understanding,
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Andras
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Jun 21, 2006, 6:00pm

The new authentication is in place so new AW members can access the newsgroups too :)
Beta testers please wait at least until Friday to get access to the Beta group!

Thank you for you patience,

[View Quote] Follow Up set to Community ng
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Andras
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Jul 23, 2006, 7:49pm

[View Quote] I never heard the compiler can crash while the application is running.
Oh well - I forgot it is VB :)

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Andras
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Jul 18, 2006, 10:36am

[View Quote] Take the aw_term() call out.

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