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Dec 31, 2000, 12:19pm

Have you tried using scandisk and defrag? Cause if you don't do use those
programs on a regular basis your computer will start throwing tantrums ;)

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Jan 20, 2001, 9:17pm

For once I agree with Eep, you really did not have to respond to that twit
and use html posts either.

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Jan 23, 2001, 9:24am

Just stop posting in html, not only does it ruin the layouts of later posts
but
its also extremely annoying.

Even I stopped posting in html months ago.

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- Tony56 (Tony M.) [chandler56 at mail.com]
"All typos are optical illusions"
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Feb 9, 2001, 9:46am

316694-Jeiden *Remove*

Feb 9, 2001, 9:50am

You got to be kidding Eep. Facter has been giving you more chances to shape
up your act. And you call that hypocrisy? If I owned AW I would have banned
you completely long ago.

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Feb 10, 2001, 6:20am

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Sorry Eep it wasn't. Even though AWCI can if they wished boot you
both here and in AW. The vote to get you banned was not hypocrisy on
their part. It was an effort to 1) see what the current views of the
community are and 2) proved to be your second chance. Because if you
had lost the vote you would not still be here.

Basically you are now on your last chance and from what I have read
of the newer posts, you are also on very thin ice. I, myself wouldn't
be so nice as Facter was if I became the moderator of these news
groups. I would have banned you at the first time you broke the
charter, instead of like Factor give you a chance to save yourself.

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Feb 10, 2001, 6:34am

Excuse me but that same Admendment defines what freedom of speech
actually is and flaming people in the way Eep does falls under
slander which if taken to a US court can end up with a conviction.

So actually read what you are referencing to next time. And due to
the fact unlike the copyright laws there are no international
treaties that make them apply to more than the US. They do not apply
here.

If you insult the guy with the power to boot you, your just asking to
be banned. So do a bit more research next time with links to where
you got the info. Otherwise your just adding to the pile of Bs.

Feb 10, 2001, 6:42am

[View Quote] Just cause you think its pathetic, doesn't give you the right to flame me
for my opinion. I think Eep should be banned, I have had this opinion for
quite some time. So unless you want to cast your vote, shut up.

Also I have seen these ngs get more an 300 posts in on one topic in one day.
So if you can't handle the amount of posts why not just not read them there
is a "Catch up" option in most newsreaders that marks all unread messages as
read.

Feb 10, 2001, 11:22am

The I just installed the program and hadn't had a chance to disable the auto
sign feature.

Also the BBB could do nothing if AW banned you for insulting people and
causing a disruption to the company.

Feb 10, 2001, 2:33pm

[View Quote] Yes eep I have. Strange though that you would forget what you wrote when it
was your and only your post that I was replying to. Sounds like you really
don't pay attention to a good deal of what you write. Oh well, this is the
last post I will make on this topic.

Even though I do not like you, good day.

Feb 11, 2001, 1:56am

No problem, just that the text of the emails was getting a bit long and I
didn't want to have a jumbo jet sized post if I could help it.

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Feb 11, 2001, 1:42am

AWGate has a G rating as in Disney movie level of chatting allowed.
Basically sexual oriented chat is not allowed there. And all he wanted to do
was have a sexually oriented chat, hense he was ejected.

He broke the no sex topics in AWGate rule, its as simple as that. It wasn't
because he was gay, its because he wanted to only talk about being gay and
flaunting himself among those that did NOT want to talk about the gay issue.

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Feb 11, 2001, 2:48am

Actually sexual prefrence is falls under sexual content of any kind. All
craig had to say is "whys that" and then listen to the explaination. Instead
he is doing the "I am a poor minority and I can't handle being yelled at by
the big bad establishment."

For all we know everyone in AWGate could have been gay as well but they had
the tact to not go screaming "GAY HERE!" where little kids are. (Now please
don't flame me for that statement I was just using that as an example.) Just
because being gay isn't all about sex, doesn't mean you should be flaunting
it and thumbing your nose at others like he was doing.

I have many friends that are gay, and they know I am straight and we get
along fine. And have real interesting conversations, but both them and I
have enough tact that we don't try to force our preferences on each other.

They do what they do, and I do what I do. Its just a matter of knowing when
it is appropriate to have a healthy discussion about the gay issue and when
not to. And in AWGate its not appropriate.

Its not a matter of the majority bashing a minority its a matter of he made
the mistake of assuming that because they asked and then told him to stop
that they were against him. When in fact they were just following the rules
that AWCI has set for all of their worlds.

He shouldn't let one bad experience sour him to AW in general. Just he
should have read the guidelines, a link to which appears whenever you enter
AWCI worlds. Then he would have known without having to ask that AWGate
wasn't the place for it, and then he could have asked if there were places
within AW that not only allowed but welcomed gay chatting. Even if it is
only platonic.

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Feb 11, 2001, 5:49am

The reason these so called "absurd people" do not want children exposed to
this is because of the pervs that are looking to find them and talk them
into leaving home and coming to them to either be killed or forced into
child porn.

I admit that is the worst case senario but that is the reason why we have
guidelines like that. To prevent this and identify any and all pervs that
may have found there way into the chat room.

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Feb 12, 2001, 5:26am

Man I think the average intelligence of the younger posters is at the bottom
of the barrel sometimes.

[View Quote] I never said it was the gays or straight people in the post did I? There are
Pervs of both sexual orientation out there. And I thought you guys would be
more intelligent than you are proving your self to be.

[View Quote] How stupid can a person get? Where in my previous post did I say homosexuals
are all criminals? READ the whole post before you respond to it not just the
first few lines.

[View Quote] No you prevent that by keeping them away from places where the Pervs
generally hang out. AW has rules to keep the Pervs out and create an
environment that is safe for kids.

Still though of course Pervs (or trolls as some people call them) find a way
into AW as was shown buy the murder of a young girl.

The GK could have handled it better, that I agree with. But sexual
orientation is considered as part of sexuality and sexual content as far as
the rules go.

Feb 11, 2001, 1:37am

First stop posting in damn HTML and second do you think we are idiots? We
might not agree on things and may not like each other, but we are anything
but complete brainless idiots.

Its obvious from your post that you just want to stir up trouble. First of
you don't go talking about anything that involves sex or sexual orientation
in places that kids are most likely to be.

Being gay was not the reason you got booted from the first world. It was
that you refused to talk about anything except that you were gay. In a place
where it was not appropreate.

Its good to be proud of what you are but there is a time and a place for
that, and AWGate is neither the place nor the time. You must remember there
are children under 13 that chat in AWGate. If you want to go to a place that
talks about sex, then go to a place that does not have a ban on sexually
oriented chatting.

Also it is obvious that you altered the text of the chat log, especially
because chat logs do not use HTML coding in them, they are just plain text
files. Also it is considered bad form to post in HTML. So just crawl back
under the rock you came from and stop trying to instigate trouble.

[View Quote] Everyday, I come across world owners who play God and eject people who don't
fit in with the rest. Just today, my friend was ejected from not one, but
three worlds for simply stating that he was gay. What is shocking is that
these were all AWLD owned worlds, not just privately owned worlds. Here is
what my friend who happens to be a tourist and gay in real life sent me in
an e-mail this morning. (Note: In the first convo, my friend's name is "I
love Craig", and the GK who ejected him was named flynn 1.)


"I am use to just staying in private worlds all the time because a majority
of AW doesn't like gays and don't think too highly upon them. I decided that
it was time to come out of hiding and visit some public AW worlds. I started
off by asking if gays were allowed to be there, because usually if someone
finds out I am gay they will eject me or torment me for it. Here is my first
visit to awgate... (note: I had to cut short some of the comments made by
other people not affiliated with the situation to save you time on reading
it)

Immigration Officer: Welcome to the Gateway to Active Worlds!
"x plorer": h
"x plorer": e
"x plorer": l
"x plorer": l
"x plorer": o
flynn 1: x plorer, be careful hon, the bot dont like ppl to scroll :)
"x plorer": okay flynn sorry
flynn 1: no prob x plorer, i'd hate you to get booted :)
"I love Craig": hello
flynn 1: hi i love craig :)
"CYBORG": Hi
"x plorer": You love Craig!!!!!
"I love Craig": hi flynn
flynn 1: no i dont!!!!
Anonymizer: Privacy Is Our Right !
Zerena: Does anyone know why an imigration officer would eject someone?
"I love Craig": I am just wondering, but are gay people allowed here?
"I love Craig": because usually I get ejected if someone finds out I am gay
flynn 1: hope you are not gonna bring yer bugs to my party :(
flynn 1: we have children here i love craig, we dont have that talk here ok?
Zerena: Do you know why imigration would eject someone?
"I love Craig": I am just asking
"I love Craig": no reason for an attitude
flynn 1: I love craig, please stop this now
"I love Craig": I do not deserve to be treated this way
flynn 1: oh be quiet you fool, cant you see that it isnt suitable chat for a
place with kids?
"I love Craig": I do not respect you calling me a fool, flynn
"I love Craig": you are the fool here sir
dUNcE: u are being treated the way gays should be
flynn 1: & i dont care!
"I love Craig": thats exactly the attitude that I dont respect
"I love Craig": "you just don't care" about things
flynn 1: so, report me if you have to. I don't care
"I love Craig": Very well, I will see to it that your status gets revoked as
gatekeeper
Lady TeaL: This is a place to have fun, not to be tormented by homosexuals
"CYBORG": Go ahead eject him
dUNcE: Craig...u can do all the reporting u want..we will all stick up 4
flynn
flynn 1: tx ppl
"CYBORG": Homophobe
"I love Craig": well you are just gonna protect flynn whenever he gets in
trouble
"I love Craig": and then he is just gonna do it again after this
flynn 1: craig, now i'm asking you to stop or leave
"I love Craig": stop what exactly?
"CYBORG": Flyynn needs a big gay man to givr him a lap dance
"I love Craig": I have done nothing wrong
"I love Craig": except being gay...which in your mind is wrong
dUNcE: flynn is a woman u divvocks
Sea Swallow: flynn is not saying its wrong .... just not a subject for the
gate
"CYBORG": Do you want a lap dance too?
"I love Craig": what is the subject again...refresh my memory
flynn 1: stop this now or I will have to remove you
UsuL 2: Cyborg , you need to keep your comments G -rated too
"CYBORG": You need one
"CYBORG": A lap dance on your laptop
flynn 1: gay people aren't suitable for children in the gate
flynn 1: If someone offends you in any way, remember you can mute them by
right clicking on their avatar & selecting mute........Wonderful feature!
"I love Craig": I don't mean to be rude...but there are children of the
homosexual decent
UsuL 2: lap dances are hardly G-rated
flynn 1: If you are unsure of the few rules we have here, please type "world
ruIes" you will be shown our guidelines... thank you!
"I love Craig": world rules
"CYBORG": Howq do you know what a lap dance is? Ms. G-rated
"I love Craig": I don't mean to stir an arguement
"I love Craig": but I just want to remain in the gate for being myself and
nothing else
dUNcE: wtf has flynn done anyway Craig?
"I love Craig": flynn has been wanting to eject me because I am gay
Luggage: Is there a GK on duty ?
"I love Craig": and my name isn't craig
SMOKE JUMPER1: thats your freedom of choice but i dont want too see it
"I love Craig": it's who I love, not my real name
Lady TeaL: Craig leave it alone She is just doing her Job She isn't against
anyone
"I love Craig": but she is doing her job wrong. she is clearly against gays
"MentalyDisturbed": no GKs on duty!!! to good to be true
"CYBORG": You can[t help who you love -- yoou
"CYBORG": you're just gay
"I love Craig": and where does it say in her job descirption that you eject
homosexual people?
"I love Craig": homosexuals are people too, you know
Immigration Officer: You have been ejected from awgate
After I was ejected for simply being who I am, I wanted to see if I would be
ejected from other worlds for being gay too. I headed on over to AWTeen, and
the rest explains itself.
Also note what CYBORG has said through the entire convo. He continually
expresses offensive comments, yet the GK's only go as far as warning him and
CYBORG still doesn't stop. Obviously the GK's don't really care as much
about offensive comments than they do about gay people.
Immigration Officer: Welcome to AWTeen! Be sure to attend the Date That Geek
competition today at 7PM VRT! More information can be found at
www.shoemakervillage.org/geek.html! A public meeting will be held today at
5PM at 19s 3e with XelNaga, Elana87, and MoonBeam!
[Customs Aide]: Welcome, "I love Craig". For the Conduct Guidelines please
say World Rules or see http://www.activeworlds.com/conduct.html
[Chess Bot]: Welcome to AWTeen, "I love Craig"! Come to the AWTeen Game
Center South of GZ to play a game of chess or tic-tac-toe! More games will
be added soon!
"I love Craig": hello
"I love Craig": are gay people allowed in this world or no?
TrekkerX: yes unfortunaly
"I love Craig": unfortunately?
"I love Craig": why is being gay a bad thing?
TrekkerX: goto theworld Gay for gays you gay
"I love Craig": no I will stay here
TrekkerX: i dont like gays
"I love Craig": well that is your problem
TrekkerX: they do werd things to me
Nornny: who even does like gays these days?
"I love Craig": but please dont start an arugment with me about being gay
Immigration Officer: You have been ejected from awteen
This one was a lot shorter than the first. I wasn't even given a warning for
"being gay".
As you can see, I am deeply hurt by all this. The combined immaturity and
the lack of respect for other people make your little GK "helping hand"
program a disgrace. You should enforce better screenings, and mandatory
monitoring of all GK and PK related activity. And violation should result to
a punishment that equal to the guideline broken. If someone applies to be a
GK or a PK, they should first become a Junior PK or GK or something of the
same equivalency. They will be monitored and tested at random times without
them knowing to see how they handle certain situations. Maybe you should
even go as far as policing your own police. Right now you have the GKs and
PKs policing the community, yet no one policing them. Setting up an internal
or external affairs unit would resolve all conflicts between GKs & PKs and
the community. They should stop playing God, because there not good at it.
Please do something...
My people have spoken"
This kind of stuff shouldn't be happening and it is a disgrace that not only
is it happening in the real world, but also online. You all should be
ashamed of yourselves for depriving someone of there fun on the internet
simply because of who they are.

Feb 11, 2001, 1:52am

[View Quote] Actually being gay is not the issue its the fact that there is a NO SEXUAL
CONTENT OF ANY KIND ban in all AWCI owned worlds. So if you want to talk
about something concerning sex or sexual preference then you have to go to
non AWCI worlds that invite that kind of chatting and that have R ratings.

He asked if it was alright if he was gay in AWGate and they told him that
sexual content was not allowed. END OF STORY.

Feb 11, 2001, 2:26am

[View Quote] Actually he had plenty of time to ask "whys that" just he went in with a I
am different and shoot me if you don't like it attitude. Not the best way to
do things, if you ask me.

The US military has a don't ask, don't tell policy which means we don't care
if you are gay, just don't try to force the issue cause then we will have to
take action. Be it for or against you we will take action.

It is obvious that craig was a troll hunting for sexual oriented chat,
because otherwise he wouldn't of said he was gay. There are chatrooms set up
across the internet for the purpose of sex chatting, there are gay chats,
straight chats, bi chats, and come join the party everyone's welcome chats.

AWGate is not one of these and as such sex content of any kind is not
permitted. Also a link to the world guidelines is sent to you every time you
enter the world, so there is no excuse for being ignorant.

Feb 11, 2001, 2:48am

No you convert it to plain text mode and then post it. Many newsreaders
cannot handle HTML posts.

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Feb 14, 2001, 5:53pm

Myssie I read myths posts and he was not rude in the least. Some commands
and objects are not allowed on some worlds because of all the vandalism that
goes on.

Building large things with bots was banned in AW because it was too easy to
cover large amounts of land. I know I found out the hard way. And had to ask
Dalphine who had been a PK at the time to come in and help me delete a 3
mile long and 3 mile wide goof up I made.

The reasons that certain commands and objects get blocked is because there
are people out there too immature, and would go around and deliberately ruin
other peoples builds.

I have ended up on some worlds where a guy just duplicated every object 400
times just for the heck of it, using the tourist status to get around the
encroachment. Usually I would end up spending hours deleting that crap and
tgramming the world owner about it.

If you want them to allow people to be able to use those commands on AW then
you have to get rid of ALL the people that vandalize builds. And since that
is virtually impossible, those commands will stay turned of in AW.

WildAW if I remember was created because people who could not afford or
didn't want to own their own worlds, but still wanted a place where they
would be able to use all the commands and objects available.

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Feb 19, 2001, 1:25am

Actually eep a group of related universes are called a "Multiverse" so for
AW it would be the "Active Worlds Multiverse".

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Apr 6, 2001, 3:37pm

Maka why are you calling him a jerk? He's a pretty nice guy.

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Apr 6, 2001, 5:10pm

Builderz goto news://rec.games.mud.misc as if there is an Aristole there and
ask him for advice on how to handle rip off sites.

He does this on a regular basis cause some twinks keep posting excepts from
his site and his mud and everytime they put up a site its down again faster
than you can blink.

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Apr 5, 2001, 1:11pm

Okay I know I remember posts in which several of the Old Timers (here longer
than me) would say that AWCOM was based in the Delware area.

Can't remember who said it but while renewing my world (and getting a couple
of errors on the form) I called up the number they have for if you have
questions. And found out that AWCOM is in Massachusetts with the servers in
Cambridge.

Reason I noticed this was cause they had the same area code as me :p

Apr 6, 2001, 2:41pm

Sorry I had to borrow one of eeps old favorite worlds but you won't believe
what I just saw.

As you all know the world Beta is a great place to test bots and stuff if
you don't have a world of your own. Well I just popped in there and you will
not believe what I saw.

Vandalism up to my eyeballs!

Now not the old hasn't Tourist multiply the objects till you can't move its
so laggy. No they weren't that smart. What they did was using their normal
Cits go and create objects and then use the new 3.1 commands to have the
multiples bouncing across the gz or have a sign with an insult walking down
the street. Every were you look there is something bouncing, twisting, or
just making a specticle of itself.

At least we know who the hell did it cause their names are plastered all
over everything but... Shesh!

I never thought I see the day when I would have to duck a spinning piece of
vandalism coming right at my face :|

Anyone know which of the PKs is supposed to be watching Beta? Cause from the
look of things they aren't doing their job.

Apr 6, 2001, 3:32pm

Still its not something you'd expect to see. And what about that sign
walking across GZ saying "You all Suck so I'm vandalizing" or something
along those lines.

*Rubs his head where a flying sign hit him.*

Anyway I think maybe the PKs need to add a few more patrols to Beta. And get
the Garbage removal team over there.

There is a place for artwork and cluttering GZ isn't it.

I admit those commands are fun to use, take the pyramid on my world, Amrith,
for instance it has a cool rotating column of fire with lighting effects.
Least that is done in a manner that doesn't cause people to have to duck
when they look at it.

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Apr 6, 2001, 4:46pm

Nope I was able to catch it once and the loop was set to 100 so if you don't
notice it you'll have to wait for its next pass.

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Apr 6, 2001, 5:05pm

Oh I can see it now a world of utter choas! *Sees vistors having to dive,
jump, run, swim, and fly all just to stay in one spot* ;p

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Apr 8, 2001, 1:33am

Too bad cause it looks like they need some one to go in there and check at
least once in awhile and check for vandalism. Be it PK or not Beta should be
clean of flying destractions that knock you silly.

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Apr 12, 2001, 10:53pm

Hey all I just had the worst thing that could happen, happen. My hard drive
got so bad I had to use the Quick Restore CD just to fix it. And that just
so happens reformats the HD returning everything back to factory condition.

Anyway this is what I need if anyone has links to any of my builds plz post
them here so I can fix my teleport list.

Thanks in advance,

Jeiden

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