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Sep 10, 2002, 6:39pm

Hello to all, I feel it best to cross post this announcment so everyone sees
it.
As of September 17th 2002, MrBruce and his world A!!CT will stop using world
hosting and object path services from Heartfall.
This was a concideration back in March and was thought about since then.
MrBruce considered the building community in this discission and a public
vote was taken lasting 4 days. the vote was regarding keeping the services
of Heartfall or dropping them and losing all the builds in A!!CT world.
The voting results were as follows. Out of a total of 62 votes 38 said get
rid of Heartfall and find a better alternative. 24 said keep Heartfall.
Therefore the community feels it is best to lose all the builds and start
fresh!
My major reasons for this dicision is based on the facts that I feel I was
being over charged for services. Being taken advantage of, based on the
facts that without their path my builders builds will be lost. Being
restricted from running my world the way I want to.
But the latest one being when a hoster has a website that lists prices and
in the price it states (COMMERCIAL WORLDS 32 user) $400.00 prepay and I am
sent a renewal email stating $575.00 a year! And I am told this is for
services (that anyone expects to come with their services at no extra fee).
Also KeithB and myself upgraded A!!CT from a P-50 to a P-90 in March 2002,
Heartfall charged us a total of $250.00 saying it was for the next six
months, if my math serves me correct $250.00 for six months equals $500.00
for 12, not $575.00!
So as the contract ends...so does my worlds association with Heartfall.com.
A!!CT world which was nominated for a CY this year will probably be
disqualified because someone has to pinch every penny they can to stay in
business and try to take out the little guy!
A!!CT world will close as of September 17th 2002, it will remain off line
until I place it on another server, most likely AW.coms server wich is
$199.00 a Year for any size world, no rules, no one telling you how to use
what is rightfully yours. My telephone campany does not pick and chose for
me who is allowed to use my phone. I do not expect a webmaster telling me
how to use what I bought and paid for either!
I do not have to fear threats any longer that a person hosting my bought and
paid for world and services is going to pull the plug on me because they do
not like someone, or adding ejections to my ejections list without my
permission!
Amivaliant owner of iCandy world was right, I only held back the truth for
fear of the lose of my builders builds in A!!CT world.
Now it does not matter, I can not be accused of slandering the webmaster, or
worry about threats of pulling the plug on my services! I speak the untold
truth for once and I did warn Heartfall that this day was coming.
I often hear bad things said about People at AW.com, I can honestly say that
people like Bill, Tom and Noelle have been the most helpful generous people
I have ever met!
Heartfall really did nothing speacial other than what should have been part
of the normal services. It was Heartfalls problems that they are over
paranoid over being hacked and had to do any special things to avoid this.
But my world and I got the blame so price increases could be justifyable.
WRONG!
Heartfall offered no discounts for the publicity they received for my using
their services. Instead they blamed everything bad on my world and I and
through that in my face instead of offering some kind of discount.
I was offered to buy 4 cobra helicopters which were oddly already on the
avatars list. I bought a skybox for $30.00 which oddly works in anyworld on
the path! And now without the path its vertually worthless.
Should I go on?
No I won't bother. Its time to move on. Besides A!!CT world needs a
change..AWTeen has pretty much made A!!CT a deserted world.
My Many appoligies to those who will lose their builds, because without
Heartfall's path, 47% of my worlds builds will be nothing but triangles! so
its not worth using a Prop-dump!
I will ramdonly bot copy builds and send people the files or move them
somewhere else, but there is no guarentees they will load!
As this post hits the web..I am sure I will get many telegrams from
InSaNiTy. Too late the damage is done! A dissatisfyed customer never has
anything good to say about a bad business and should not be expected!
Enough said!
MrBruce and the A!!CT world community.
A1CTWorld at aol.com

Sep 11, 2002, 9:05am

I highly recommend Ima Genius from imatowns.com

Excellent service, fast & reliable servers, reasonable prices, and he won't
mess with your worlds.

Kerstin
(formerly ambivalent)

Sep 11, 2002, 10:31am

As long as we have full control over the worlds and object path.
Insannty even tried to tell us that making propdumps would damage his
server. It's not our prob that he has crappy servers....LOLZ


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Sep 11, 2002, 3:57pm

"ncc 72897" <NCC-71854 at USS-Venture.Starfleet.UFP> wrote in
news:3d7f37bc at server1.Activeworlds.com:

> As long as we have full control over the worlds and object path.
> Insannty even tried to tell us that making propdumps would damage his
> server. It's not our prob that he has crappy servers....LOLZ

He was just lying, it can't hurt his server.

KAH

Sep 11, 2002, 4:03pm

I know that of course..ROFL....that didn't stop me from making the weekly
propdumps.

Sep 11, 2002, 5:03pm

A!!CT will also be changing to a custom path of starfleet which we will be
able to add objects for everyone to use. If you have any objects you wish to
be submitted, please telegram me ;)

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D a n

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Sep 11, 2002, 6:01pm

You should have made the propdump equivilent of a DoS attack :P

- Mark
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Sep 11, 2002, 7:01pm

No Bruce you have to stay open, please your world kept all the lamers out of
AWTeen, please keep it open :)

--
Brock - 308723
AW 3.3 Build: 419
Brock at iceflare.net

Sep 11, 2002, 7:03pm

AwTeen is full of them.

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Sep 11, 2002, 8:16pm

Well it is now that tourists are re-enabled

--
Brock - 308723
AW 3.3 Build: 419
Brock at iceflare.net

Sep 11, 2002, 9:33pm

I was talking about most of the cits there though.

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Sep 11, 2002, 10:20pm

mmmhmmm i dont go there much most people there annoy me
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Sep 11, 2002, 10:28pm

i dont think aw will be a good host either... yes imatown is probably a good
one
but either way from what ive heard youve made a good choice in leaving
heartfall
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Sep 11, 2002, 10:43pm

I vote with ImaTowns, Ima doesnt fool around heh.

--
Brock - 308723
AW 3.3 Build: 419
Brock at iceflare.net

Sep 12, 2002, 4:35pm

Not has bad as insanity :)

A!!CT will be fully advanced. We will also hopefully have a new tourist
build protection system hopefully.

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D a n

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Sep 12, 2002, 9:19pm

And... how are you going to do this? I don't see any way that this can be
done.

-Joe

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Sep 13, 2002, 12:47am

a bot could IF the aw_object_delete sent the objects properties, but since
it DOESNT then its impossible, but i doubt any of them have tried it yet :D.
bakcing everything up once every 5 minutes is probably the only way to
protect tourists builds
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Sep 13, 2002, 4:42am

Monitoring of a specified rectangular area.

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Sep 13, 2002, 9:33am

what path are u guys using?

Sep 13, 2002, 6:24pm

A custom one soon :)

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D a n

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Sep 13, 2002, 7:21pm

On 11 Sep 2002 07:05:54 -0400, "ambivalent" <kersting at blast.net>
[View Quote] >I highly recommend Ima Genius from imatowns.com
>
>Excellent service, fast & reliable servers, reasonable prices, and he won't
>mess with your worlds.
>
>Kerstin
>(formerly ambivalent)
>

So do I!

XelaG

Sep 18, 2002, 6:05am

Everyone with Heartfall Productions wishes MrBruce and the builders of A!!CT
the best of luck. To clarify a matter of costs. The world A!!CT was well
notified many months ago of the renewal fees based on their P-90 size, open
build status, user limit amounts and amount of support services required them as
a public build world. Pricing was fairly based on the services provided. If you
look in comparison the cost of a P-90 world license of 30 users which gives you
simply "AIR" , We the company providing the Sun Server equipment, 24 hour , 7
day per week support, backups, 4 world objects yards, 40,000 + objects to use,
High bandwidth, applications processing and much more.... We charge relatively
very little compared to the AW "AIR" fees. The information posted by MrBruce
here is a misunderstanding on his part. A!!CT world is not a commercial world
therefore comparison to commercial world pricing is not valid. MrBruce operates
a "Public Open Build" world. The services of http://worldhosting.heartfall.com
are provided for "private" worlds which is what MrBruce had signed up as.
Servicing a public world is not, nor ever been equal to that of a private
world. Our world owners love the fact that they can comfortably browse through
the four world objects world free of GZ like chatter. It is that personal
service and upper quality they come to us for. Let us all remember that during
the year A!!CT was hosted with us there was a 99.9% uptime and 100% data
security. The parent company, AW, itself has lost data in their large public
worlds in the past. That was something A!!CT never needed fear of while on our
equipment.

Again, we wish all the people of A!!CT the best... We know that many have
enjoyed the time they had using our services.

Peace health & healing....
Filmkr, InSaNiTy & the rest of the Heartfall Family...






[View Quote] > Hello to all, I feel it best to cross post this announcment so everyone sees
> it.
> As of September 17th 2002, MrBruce and his world A!!CT will stop using world
> hosting and object path services from Heartfall.
> This was a concideration back in March and was thought about since then.
> MrBruce considered the building community in this discission and a public
> vote was taken lasting 4 days. the vote was regarding keeping the services
> of Heartfall or dropping them and losing all the builds in A!!CT world.
> The voting results were as follows. Out of a total of 62 votes 38 said get
> rid of Heartfall and find a better alternative. 24 said keep Heartfall.
> Therefore the community feels it is best to lose all the builds and start
> fresh!
> My major reasons for this dicision is based on the facts that I feel I was
> being over charged for services. Being taken advantage of, based on the
> facts that without their path my builders builds will be lost. Being
> restricted from running my world the way I want to.
> But the latest one being when a hoster has a website that lists prices and
> in the price it states (COMMERCIAL WORLDS 32 user) $400.00 prepay and I am
> sent a renewal email stating $575.00 a year! And I am told this is for
> services (that anyone expects to come with their services at no extra fee).
> Also KeithB and myself upgraded A!!CT from a P-50 to a P-90 in March 2002,
> Heartfall charged us a total of $250.00 saying it was for the next six
> months, if my math serves me correct $250.00 for six months equals $500.00
> for 12, not $575.00!
> So as the contract ends...so does my worlds association with Heartfall.com.
> A!!CT world which was nominated for a CY this year will probably be
> disqualified because someone has to pinch every penny they can to stay in
> business and try to take out the little guy!
> A!!CT world will close as of September 17th 2002, it will remain off line
> until I place it on another server, most likely AW.coms server wich is
> $199.00 a Year for any size world, no rules, no one telling you how to use
> what is rightfully yours. My telephone campany does not pick and chose for
> me who is allowed to use my phone. I do not expect a webmaster telling me
> how to use what I bought and paid for either!
> I do not have to fear threats any longer that a person hosting my bought and
> paid for world and services is going to pull the plug on me because they do
> not like someone, or adding ejections to my ejections list without my
> permission!
> Amivaliant owner of iCandy world was right, I only held back the truth for
> fear of the lose of my builders builds in A!!CT world.
> Now it does not matter, I can not be accused of slandering the webmaster, or
> worry about threats of pulling the plug on my services! I speak the untold
> truth for once and I did warn Heartfall that this day was coming.
> I often hear bad things said about People at AW.com, I can honestly say that
> people like Bill, Tom and Noelle have been the most helpful generous people
> I have ever met!
> Heartfall really did nothing speacial other than what should have been part
> of the normal services. It was Heartfalls problems that they are over
> paranoid over being hacked and had to do any special things to avoid this.
> But my world and I got the blame so price increases could be justifyable.
> WRONG!
> Heartfall offered no discounts for the publicity they received for my using
> their services. Instead they blamed everything bad on my world and I and
> through that in my face instead of offering some kind of discount.
> I was offered to buy 4 cobra helicopters which were oddly already on the
> avatars list. I bought a skybox for $30.00 which oddly works in anyworld on
> the path! And now without the path its vertually worthless.
> Should I go on?
> No I won't bother. Its time to move on. Besides A!!CT world needs a
> change..AWTeen has pretty much made A!!CT a deserted world.
> My Many appoligies to those who will lose their builds, because without
> Heartfall's path, 47% of my worlds builds will be nothing but triangles! so
> its not worth using a Prop-dump!
> I will ramdonly bot copy builds and send people the files or move them
> somewhere else, but there is no guarentees they will load!
> As this post hits the web..I am sure I will get many telegrams from
> InSaNiTy. Too late the damage is done! A dissatisfyed customer never has
> anything good to say about a bad business and should not be expected!
> Enough said!
> MrBruce and the A!!CT world community.
> A1CTWorld at aol.com

Sep 18, 2002, 8:40am

Guess who's back........


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Sep 18, 2002, 9:40am

Geez, Insanity! Just pick a name and stick with it, will ya?! Trying to
make people think that there's more than one person involved with
Heartfall doesn't exactly bode well for your credibility...

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Goober King
Hosts are known to carry viruses...
robrod at prism.net

Sep 18, 2002, 9:43am

Perhaps it a case of spot the insanity.

I know you are Insanity, I claim my $50

Rofl

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Sep 18, 2002, 12:41pm

geeze people like the you make me sick. whenever you find a kind person,
youll instantly try to take advantage of him, taking everypenny you can. and
then you go pretending your all nice, and start "wishing them the best of
luck". 2-faced hosting company!


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Sep 18, 2002, 5:08pm

"host" <nospam at privacy.com> wrote in news:3D882C08.BD3ABCD0 at privacy.com:

><<snipped weird crap>>

Stop being such a weirdo gnome, Insanity! We all know you're only one
person, running on inadequate servers (deducting from all the stupid
excuses you come up with whenever your customers want to do something that
you don't feel like doing), probably not so high bandwidth and giving
people bad service. It's been proved many times in these NGs, and each time
you reply to your disgruntled customers trying to justify and defend your
business you make a fool of yourself and give it an ever worse reputation.
If you haven't got anything interesting to come up with (in case you still
haven't learned, your SPAM is *NOT* interesting), PLEASE do not post.
Thanks in advance.

KAH
PS. never mind replying with all your slandering crap about how I'm
"slandering" you, k?

Sep 19, 2002, 5:50am

In case you could not read Goob, I signed the post... There are more people
involved in Heartfall than Myself and I only posted in this cit name
because I have let other cits expire. Keeping several alive as it is for
our customers gratis use. But I figured that a few of you would feel need
to flame useless remarks.

Filmkr + InSaNiTy
http://worldhosting.heartfall.com

Signed and up front as always *S* 6 years Reliability.


[View Quote] > Geez, Insanity! Just pick a name and stick with it, will ya?! Trying to
> make people think that there's more than one person involved with
> Heartfall doesn't exactly bode well for your credibility...
>
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Sep 19, 2002, 9:41am

"Signed and up front as always *S* 6 years Reliability."

maybe reliability, just very doubtfully 6 years of customer satisfaction..

Sep 19, 2002, 12:49pm

[View Quote] ROFL.

-Agent1

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