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Sep 19, 2002, 3:59pm

"host" <nospam at privacy.com> wrote in news:3D8979EA.C894697A at privacy.com:

> In case you could not read Goob, I signed the post... There are more
> people involved in Heartfall than Myself and I only posted in this cit
> name because I have let other cits expire. Keeping several alive as it
> is for our customers gratis use. But I figured that a few of you would
> feel need to flame useless remarks.

Yeah, right :-)) You mean all those other nice people living inside your
brain? Will you say hi to them for me? Or do you think it's akward to say
"hi split identity #1, hi split identyty #2" and so on?

KAH

Sep 19, 2002, 7:21pm

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HA ! :OD we KNOW! you keep making them up all the time ! Nice try
bonehead.... Do you really think we're all so stupid to believe ANYTHING you
have to say ......

Know what ? Don't bother answering that......
Guess it's pretty obvious........

Btw, Tell "Mr. Williams" or whoever you were last time, we all said
hello........ :O/

Sep 20, 2002, 5:47pm

In answer to insanity's statment about us advertising world hosting while
using their path.
He is wrong, what he is talking about is this, there were signs posted at
A!!CT's GZ made under the CT's name using eminent domain. These signs made
by citizen carl. stated "If you donate to A!!CT world to help keep it
running we will offer to host your world as a thank you"
On the signs there was different donation amounts and what size world and
user limit the donation would offer a doner. Although I was not the creater
of these signs, InSaNiTy world hoster, could not get it through his head
that anyone with Eminent Domain can alter or change anothers objects, so he
blaimed me for making the signs.
The signs do not say the path in A!!CT was part of the bargain, because NO
PATH was mentioned, just an offer to host a world based on donation size and
world size.
I do not consider what Carl did as abusing Heartfall's services.
He uses AW.com to make a profit. He uses his telephone to make a profit, AW
does not stop him from using their excistance on the web from making money,
nor does his telephone company, by which his telephone number is not listed
as a business number, it's under his real name, not heartfall.
He complains about AW not having a toll free 800 phone number, neither does
Heartfall.
Finally, in no way is this being posted to spam my world, A!!CT had roughly
170 builds in it dating back to August 17th 2001, the public had a right to
know that what they built would soon be gone or severely altered.
MrBruce
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Sep 20, 2002, 9:33pm

[View Quote] Don't worry about him.... we all know what his angle is...
You don't have to write these long ass posts to justify yourself to us. He's
shown everyone what he's all about way too many times before.....

Someone who clearly violates copyright laws and rules of common decency and
ethics like him, isn't worth you bothering yourself over........

Sep 20, 2002, 10:41pm

Begin sarcasm.

Cosnidering the fact that this person's main nick is Insanity, it isn't surprising that he's a multiple personality schizophrenic.

"Filmkr, InSaNiTy & the rest of the Heartfall Family..."

Note the use of the word 'family'. Do you consider your colleagues *family*? These Heartfall folks are obviously far too close to be just workers on some company team. The fact of the matter is that they all live in the cranium of one disturbed individual.

This particular disorder has been renamed the "Activeworlds.com, Inc. business strategy disease".

End sarcasm.

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Sep 21, 2002, 2:24pm

10 Points for you!

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Sep 27, 2002, 10:23pm

blah, blah, blah,
maybe insanity isn't a saint but he doesnt deserve to be insulted,
personally I've had the best of experience with him, And judging from some
of the replies you guys in Mr. Happys Peter Pan Land need to get
spellchecker and a decent understanding of how to construct an argument, the
only thing you guys know is what Bruce tells you, if there is an argument
to be had it is better constructed from a neutral perspective with factual
information and not blind admiration. If you aren't children you sure are
acting like it by blindly posting nonsense. another thing I can tell you is
that there is more than one person at heartfall for sure, as i have delt
with some of them. Just one of the many inconsistancies in your information.
If Bruce jumped off a bridge would you follow? I hope not, even kids are
smart enough to know better.

Sep 27, 2002, 10:53pm

In that case, judging from your tenuous grasp of English grammar,
punctuation, and your apparent inability to organize your thoughts, (if
you can even call them that...) you should fit right in around here! :P

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--
Goober King
Welcoming you to the one big happy dysfunctional family that is the AW
NGs...
robrod at prism.net

Sep 28, 2002, 11:25am

Amen to that........
Btw, king adamant... There are MANY in AW who've had similar negative
experiences with him........
But I suppose just because you're in so love with the guy, judging by your
ardor... they're invalid.... Bet it'd be a whole different story if he
ripped YOU off

JB
"was WONDERING when the next batch of jerk-lovers would come out of the
woodwork"
Rally on mindless minions !


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Oct 4, 2002, 7:30pm

LOL as I said in my origional post..I said "InSaNiTy please be smart and do
NOT relpy to this post so that you will not be flamed".
Having done a years business with Heartfall I CAN speak out.
I realize that instead of insanity replying, he did what he does best, he
drags his users into it by asking them to fight his battles for him. How do
I know this? Because when amivalent first posted against Heartfall, which I
knew nothing about, he grammed me and asked me to post against amivalant.
And in another past situation which I knew nothing about he did the same.
Also again I will mention the sky box which I paid $30.00 for which is no
longer usable! King BlueMax you mentioned in your post that we are friends.
Hmmm actually you put a knife in my back talking about personal lives. Shall
I speak about how a grown man in his 30's (YOU King Bluemax) who lives at
his parent's home with his wife and kid and pays NO RENT, NO BILLS?
I could go on with your person life just to let you know how it feels. you
call yourself a "Friend"? Hah!
By the way you can have my sky box seeing how's you like Heartfall so much.
its available on the path you use the sky name is hfspcskya1ct Notice the
HF and A1CT in the name. it is yours to keep King Bluemax and shove it where
the sun does not shine!
You have the nerve to say you are my friend when you stick up for a rip off
artist who No.1 offered to sell me those 4 helicopters for $50.00 which are
available on your av list free of charge?
You stick by a rip off artist who puts a website on public display which
clearly lists his prices for different sized worlds and lists COMMERCIAL
WORLDS at $300.00 a year with path included and he sends me a bill stating I
have to pay $575.00 a year?
And Carolann your another guilty party for posted at the request of Isanity,
flmaklr, host or whatever name he is using lately. you expecting a discount?
Don't count on it!
Also in all my calls to heartfall NO ONE but Lars ever anwsered the phone
there. Also Lars compalins about AW not having a toll free number, well
neither does Heartfall!
Point here is I posted to tell the builders of my world their builds were
hitting the trash can and why, they had that right to know. You never built
in my world and had no right blasting me in any post!
If your happy with your service with Heartfall fine I am happy for you, but
you really had no business responding to me or my post, it was MY MONEY, MY
WORLD, MY BUILDER'S BUILDS THAT WERE LOST not yours!
And I personaly do not care who you are or what you can have done to me, you
had no business responding to me in the manner that you did.
You Carolann are just a puppet of Heartfall just like that freeloader King
BlueMax, who can afford to pay the piper, because the bum does not work, but
has his Mom and Stepdad support him and his wife and kid! Like King so
himself yes we both live with in 2 miles of each other, so yes I do know
him.
I work for a living 13 hours a day to be exact and pay my own way plus
support 3 kids!
As for insanity's charity websites, those events happend long ago and are
not current! Notice the pic of him with Chuck Norris, even the copy right on
the sites are OLD!
I informed the public of what was happening with my world and their builds,
I had a right to do that and speak the TRUTH, I get busted on for it, now
you can bet I am going to bust back!
One last thing, Johnny B you are so right to say what you said about the
post from that "ASS" King BlueMax. He went way over board and didn't even
spell the name of his favorite hosting service right! He put hearfall LOL
HAHA
But also understand he was under the direction of insanity to post, just
like I was when I was a Heartfall customer, being dragged into his battles
not knowing the whole story.
Thanks insanity you just ended a REAL life friendship!
Enough time wasted on this issue I have a world to run!
MrBruce
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Oct 4, 2002, 10:15pm

I wonder from where you got the nerve to
post all those lies about people?

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Oct 4, 2002, 10:35pm

>I had a right to do that and speak the TRUTH, I get busted on for it, now
> you can bet I am going to bust back!

Is that right you lying loser?? I realized, after responding to your post
(way last week!) to say I think ALL should have the right to defend
themselves or speak in favor of those who they cared to, (yes, even you but
also Heartfall or anyone else..even John Walker Lindh for God's sake) that
you were a lost cause and thought you'd soon show your true colors. Now you
have, you worthless liar! I am in NO WAY connected to Heartfall, Insanity
or whoever else is affiliated with that person. I host my own worlds with
the exception of one now hosted by the very excellent hosting service of
Dataman's Synergy. I have no problems and he participates in none of this
newsgroup silliness. You said I was speaking at his request....you prove
that....prove it to me! You said it here then prove it here...as if anyone
wanted to hear any more of this thing that YOU choose to drag out.You have
to lie now to attempt to prove a point then I am certain you've been lying
all along! I have seen the man once in a world and we barely exchanged
hellos..and that was maybe a year ago. Why do YOU have to lie in order to
look good??? Is it because the truth would prove that you weren't??
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Oct 4, 2002, 10:57pm

Then keep it out of AW's newsgroups. What??? Only you can talk, post and
berate people?? You had no business responding to my response to you unless
of course you think this is the case. I bet you won't respond to my request
for proof that I am hosted by Heartfall though will you?? You didn't even
suggest maybe I was...you said I WAS. You said I was his puppet?? You are in
need of serious mental help if you are so delusional that you think people
he doesn't even know are somehow hyptontized into doing his bidding.

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Oct 5, 2002, 12:00am

Wow, I didnt get into your personal life but you sure buttoned up mine
pretty well. And someone told me id get in trouble for slandering you? All i
can say in response to this post of yours is: 1. Youre just mad. 2. Youve
made yourself look stupid. And i really think that going into my life is
wasnt the issue.You as I last knew it live with your mom and your twice my
age. I own my own company and work out of my backyard, not getting rich
just getting by. How do you know wheter or not I pay rent or anything else
about my finances? You really dont. Why do I live in my parents house? None
of your business. If that is all you can say then I laugh at you. Not Me.
Your life is a lot more pitiful than mine. Its not my fault you have an
hourly job pushing boxes around and cant afford to live in an appartment due
to wage garnishments to pay back child support. Or that you strangly occupy
your moms basment dripping in sweat and chainsmoking ciggarettes to spend
all your free time and extra money to play peter pan in active worlds
catering to the imaturity of such obsessions. Youre a weirdo. Not me. Yup, I
live in my moms house with my wife and son and im glad I do. My son goes to
a good school and he gets to see his grandparents every day. Im not ashamed
of who i am or where i live. I can say youve truly made yourself look bad
here bruce. This was about my opinion on heartfall and the only retaliation
you offer is my living status? I laugh at you.
Shane
(King Bluemax)

Oct 5, 2002, 12:09am

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Oct 5, 2002, 12:11am

Oops..I meant to comment on his being "Lord of the smoke rings" (affected
his ability to reason I guess) Sorry about the empty post before.
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Oct 5, 2002, 12:27am

Just thought Id point out another one of your targeted brainwashing
comments. "But also understand he was under the direction of insanity to
post, just
like I was when I was a Heartfall customer, being dragged into his battles
not knowing the whole story." Do you really expect any intelleigent person
to believe this? But also understand....(sounds kinda biblical),I've been
told to do this to you? And I have to? what, resistance is futile? Just
Like you had too? I bet, im sure you had too, after all you are the Bruce
you would never mislead. LOL

I read what you said in your post and I replied to it, I haven't spoken
to insanity since my last upgrade and the conversation was about that.

Not only are you a weirdo, your a liar, No told me to say anything about
anything, you will just redirect it because you cant take criticism, you
react to it like a 12 year old. With rude senseless comments and then
redirect your anger toward what you misperceive as the source. I'm still
laughing at you.I cant believe that AW is that big a part of all you are
that you would act this way, Its downright awkward.

Shane
KBM

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Oct 5, 2002, 1:10am

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< I can say youve truly made yourself look bad
here bruce. This was about my opinion on heartfall and the only retaliation
you offer is my living status? I laugh at you.>

Ok ..so you did the same thing too now bluemax.. you two are even, so why
not take it outa here ( this is not the place to put personal info) and on
the phone or face to face and deal with it? I think it is a complete shame
that Insanity would come between two friends as this shows has happened..
"shakes head"

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Oct 5, 2002, 1:34am

Wait a minute, I expect a response from this guy MrBruce though. If he can
lie about me and berate me publicly.I can expect to be vindicated the same
way.publicly. A week ago (my last post and he attacks me still today!!) I
suggested to MrBruce that someone has the right to speak his mind even if it
disagrees with his.that's all. Please go back and read it. I was and still
am (or am I now?) a neutral 3rd party with no personal familiarity to either
party but saw something I thought wasn't right. Was I right?..That's not the
issue here. But I didn't lie like he did..I stated an opinion. He since has
said I had no right to respond to his post in the AW newsgroup ( but I too
have a right to post in if he made any public statement..it was not a
private email.no matter the subject-or why did he post it for all to
read?? ) But MrBruce lied and said the following.and MrBruce..still I
challenge you to prove this.do you refuse?

MrBruce's lies:

>And Carolann your another guilty party for posted at the request of
Isanity,
>flmaklr, host or whatever name he is using lately. you expecting a
discount?
>Don't count on it!


>You never built
>in my world and had no right blasting me in any post!
>If your happy with your service with Heartfall fine I am happy for you, but
>you really had no business responding to me or my post, it was MY MONEY, MY
>WORLD, MY BUILDER'S BUILDS THAT WERE LOST not yours!


>You Carolann are just a puppet of Heartfall just like that freeloader King
>BlueMax, who can afford to pay the piper, because the bum does not work,
but
>has his Mom and Stepdad support him and his wife and kid! Like King so
>himself yes we both live with in 2 miles of each other, so yes I do know
>him.


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Oct 5, 2002, 6:04am

This is a real request MrBruce. Not important to you? It is to me.
MrBruce :-) I am still waiting for your reply. You know, where I asked you
to prove your fairy tales about me being Insanity's puppet and where you
claim he asked me to defend him, and also claimed that he hosts my world(s),
remember? Those things that you said were the reason I responded to your
original post that began: "Hello to all, (my emphasis on your word) I feel
it best to cross post this announcment so everyone(again, my emphasis) sees
it." MrBruce, I don't even know Insanity.

and then you went on to tell me: :

"but you really had no business responding to me or my post, it was MY
MONEY, MY
WORLD, MY BUILDER'S BUILDS THAT WERE LOST" (your emphasis this time) but
MrBruce I am one of the "everyone" that you posted it to.

MrBruce.no one wants to read this crap anymore, nor do I and that's why my
posts ended a week ago when I saw how things were going...but you chose to
drag me back into this by saying some untruths about me after all this time,
this whole week later, I can't imagine why. You ran out of insulting things
to say about others maybe? I DO want you to set that record straight. Can
you, MrBruce? You can bet there has to be at least someone out there who is
curious about how you might reply, :-) I know I am. I know you see this, you
obviously watch and post to it often enough. So get it over with.or if not,
why not? What's the big deal? You're like me, you generally have no shortage
of words. How will you respond MrBruce, or will your silence answer for you?
If you don't reply it could indicate that you are not man enough to admit
you invented that story for the same reason you might have made up the
others..... to help you with your "case", but you needn't pick on me
MrBruce, it cannot help you. And it certainly isn't nice is it? Now once and
for all did you make that up about my connection to Insanity?

Oct 5, 2002, 6:12am

Carolann if you are not a builder of A!!CT or a customer of Heartfall.com
then you had absolutly no reason at all to post to my post.
For one thing the personal attacks from King Bluemax are under the Community
news group and were uncalled for.
As for you Carolann you just posted that you are NOT a user of Heartfall,
never have been a user and admit you do not know Lars Wyka, so my post
against you was who are you to voice an opinion in this mater especially in
favor of Heartfall?
Heartfall always says the anti-Heartfall people are people who have NEVER
used their services. THAT IS A LIE people, kerstin and myself DID use
Heartfall, I used them for a year, not because I was happy but because he
like with Kerstin would not provide a refund and I paid him a year in
advance!
The whole issue about Heartfall here is free advertising for his services
and how good they are. But no one is allowed to say the oppisite here.
A!!CT is and always was a FREE non-profit world, any money donated went to
Heartfall or AW, NOT ME.
I think before people speak out, they should read the whole thread here and
realize that parts of it are scattered about under different headings or was
renamed to suit Insanity's topic needs.
You want proof I have it, but if I post it to satisfy your needs you will
complain about the band-width used to post insanitys lies written in his own
worlds. No, why bother so you can say I edited the truth to make my
so-called lies look good?. I won't bother!
As a business like AW, Insanity needs to accept critism just like he expects
AW to accept it. Believe me I know how he speaks badly about AW, I have
proof of all his lies.
King you make yourself look stupid because some of us read the post you made
under community where you speak about my personal life, now you lie here by
saying you didn't.
Before anyone posts any ferther try reading the whole thread and if you want
to avoid being in my shoes, take my adivce do not make the same mistake I
did. If you want to use Heartfall use it in a private build world only, this
way you can drop service quitley and do not have to explain to anyone why
you did.
I learned one lesson here, as you all pester me. this moves me closer to
letting A!!CT expire. As I am really seeing what kind of people AW is all
about. But remember one thing people, it is AW who suffers the loss not you
or me!
Although I ask for donations, remember one thing, no matter how you look at
it I have contributed at least 85% of the cost of the world size and up
grades. I only asked as a public build world, that people give something
back to me that I paid to provided for them!
If I pay the $1,300.00 renewal fee to renew A!!CT in December and I provide
90% of the world space to the public, should I not ask for some type of
compsation in return?
But also remember as you push me out of AW, I support the program your using
right now, when I leave, thanks to your generous support of Heartfall's
ripping me off, $1,300.00 for A!!CT plus all my worlds will expire, along
with the 10 cits I support monthly at 6.95 a month each.
Thats a total of $3,475.00 that AW can count on not receiving and when AW
folds you can all go back to using ICQ!
Heartfall gives nothing for nothing, they are 150% profit, well guess
what...he didn't get my $575.00 did he?
It also seems strange that only two people support Heartfall here, he claims
he has 1000 happy users, I only see 2 posting in his favor and won't you
feel awful when I use up your band width providing emails and telegrams
providing proof that I speak the truth.
It is you people who start the hate in AW, as a happy customer has the right
to promot Heartfall and why they are happy, an unhappy user has the right to
say the oppisite!
This all started because King Bluemax brought my personal life into it, this
is why Johnny b posted what he did, all King Bluemax had to do was say he
was happy with the service, that's all that was needed, he started this hate
war by bringing my off line personal business and life into it.
Did I say anything about Lar's home life? No I did not.
Have fun posting anything you want about me, I really don't care!
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Oct 5, 2002, 6:57am

Lastly you all seem to forget for some reason, that I allowed public
building in A!!CT since its start in September 2001. I made my decision
public only because it was only right to inform any or all builders of my
world what was about to happen.
If AW went off line permantly with out a word would you not be upset?
I only attacked you Carolann because you posted against me saying I have the
right to advertise my world and use alot of bandwidth doing so...I only
posted my decision to drop heartfall because as I said 100 times here so
far, my world had builds owned by at least 400 builders, they had a public
right to know what was going on and why.
Your name got brought into this because you attacked me by saying what you
said in favor of King Bluemax's post to boast about Heartfall's good
charicter and to be little me.
Had you really been a humane person, you would have said it's a shame a
real-life friendship ended, so a service that personally ripped me off can
flourish.
If I asked you to go to King Bluemax's world and ask him to type the name of
a sky box I bought and paid for into his sky box. I bet it would load, why
should my sky box load in any ones world? ferther more InSaNiTy never sent
me the file for it. So again, you buy something from him that only works as
long as you keep his path services.
This in my opinion is being dishonest, I once heard bad rumors about the
service in the past, at one point I actually disagreed with the bad air
against Heartfall, then suddenly I become a victum and now I am a believer
based on my own personal experiences, not on the opinion of others.
But I stress here again I WAS A USER OF HEARTFALL.COM therefore I can post
about it's charicter and I realize the more this thread grows, and the more
I get attacked fro dropping his services, the more I AM GLAD I AM NOT A
HEARTFALL USER ANYMORE!
Carolann one last thing..I do not know you..you do not know me...you do not
know Lars, you do not know King Bluemax, although you are part of the AW
community, my posts were intended for the builders of my now renewed world.
That messae was meant for them..many of them are builders of other worlds,
they needed toknow what was about to happen..this is a news group....the
deletion of over 726,753 objects used by 500+ builders was news and the
public had a right to know, thats what this news group is all about..public
announcements when it concerns a vast number of people.
Although A!!CT is not AW world, it was ran like one, exception was I allowed
special commands, and speacial objects rights, allowing the use of create
move and rotate commands. Yes I know community, AWTeen allows the same, I am
aware of this!
So Carolann my point is our attacks on each other are pointless. But again
if you never used Heartfall then your opinion about their services is
invalid.
And King Bluemax's slander against me and my personal home life was also
uncalled for.
MrBruce

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Oct 5, 2002, 7:09am

Thank you MrBruce :-)
Final words on it here from me. Comment if you wish but you have done the
gentlemanly thing just now.

> As for you Carolann you just posted that you are NOT a user of Heartfall,
> never have been a user and admit you do not know Lars Wyka, so my post
> against you was who are you to voice an opinion in this mater especially
in
> favor of Heartfall?

Well not exactly what you said of course...but I think this is a reasonable
retraction...thank you finally MrBruce :-)


And I certainly agree with that :-) then you would see I barely mentioned
Heartfall as a business, especially that I never defended that business but
instead, supported their right and their supporters rights to defend
themselves. I didn't say anything until you claimed the right to say he and
one of those he hosted couldn't do just that. You may recall my first post
started out with and kept the theme of.....and I quote myself: "Isn't
fair play promoted here?"

>No, why bother so you can say I edited the truth to make my
> so-called lies look good?. I won't bother!

You said it..not me :-) Oh yes that's right, I did say something like that.

want
> to avoid being in my shoes, take my adivce do not make the same mistake I
> did.>> If I pay the $1,300.00 renewal fee to renew A!!CT in December and I
provide
> 90% of the world space to the public, should I not ask for some type of
> compsation in return?

I have never asked for any compensation and have distributed many cits and
have had many builders..but then, not on a scale I couldn't afford. It's a
hobby, not a right.

> But also remember as you push me out of AW, I support the program your
using
> right now, when I leave, thanks to your generous support of Heartfall's
> ripping me off, $1,300.00 for A!!CT plus all my worlds will expire, along
> with the 10 cits I support monthly at 6.95 a month each.
> Thats a total of $3,475.00 that AW can count on not receiving and when AW
> folds you can all go back to using ICQ!

Do I understand it might fold because of you? That would trouble my
conscience. But how long have you had your world? AW has only (or already)
started going downhill (cit number-wise) in the last 10 months maybe hasn't
it? I wouldn't worry too much though MrBruce, Aw still has over 1000 other
worlds to support them, it won't be just your fault.

Oct 5, 2002, 8:46am

I second that.......... no more please. I for one don't give a rat's at $$
about your home lives . I'm sure most people here don't either.
This whole thread stinks of immaturity from all angles and from people who
smash eash other ABOUT being mature.... sheesh *rolls eyes*

plus we're getting a BIT off topic now....
Bruce and many others think Insanity & Heartfall sucks, Shane doesn't ......
was no need to have this become a stupid "insult-o-post" free for
all........

THIS is why so many people won't join in and post to these
newsgroups.........

JB
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Oct 5, 2002, 9:14am

lol, dont know about the rest, but these "insult-o-post"s are the main
reason im here :) there funnnny.

and i get why MrBruce is so angry, its like when you get into a fight in
real life, you expect your friends to always have your back.

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Oct 5, 2002, 12:04pm

:) I think so too, but I believe a roast deserves a PIG and that PIG roasted
themselves' for sure!
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Oct 5, 2002, 12:06pm

Do NOT mention roast pig for goodness sake!
You want Poogy to go ballistic on you?:)

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Oct 5, 2002, 1:16pm

*smacks MrBruce* snip your posts! And reply to the person you're actually replying
too... I find it hard to follow a thread when you keep replying to yourself when
you're actually talking to carolann.

--Bowen--

Oct 5, 2002, 3:37pm

Where in that post did i personally attack you? Please point it out, I hope
this is giving you a headache, cause im still laughing. This is the post
from community,

" blah, blah, blah,
maybe insanity isn't a saint but he doesnt deserve to be insulted,
personally I've had the best of experience with him, And judging from some
of the replies you guys in Mr. Happys Peter Pan Land need to get
spellchecker and a decent understanding of how to construct an argument, the
only thing you guys know is what Bruce tells you, if there is an argument
to be had it is better constructed from a neutral perspective with factual
information and not blind admiration. If you aren't children you sure are
acting like it by blindly posting nonsense. another thing I can tell you is
that there is more than one person at heartfall for sure, as i have delt
with some of them. Just one of the many inconsistancies in your information.
If Bruce jumped off a bridge would you follow? I hope not, even kids are
smart enough to know better."

Im not seeing these aformentioned personal attacks, mabee your referring to
the peter pan comment. If that is it then stop acting like peter pan."
And im sorry to upset those who are disgruntled with my post. It to me wasnt
ever about being rude or flaming or spamming. but everything ive said is
either from being there at the time or something that was said to me by mr
bruce, no lies no half posts. just your own words. Also if you noticed the
issues you addressed werent even in my original post like pricing? i never
commented on that and several others you refuted. just the ones i had been
around for and had factual information on. You better print these posts out
and get a highlighter.

Oct 5, 2002, 3:52pm

just another note, in a previous post you had 200 builders, now 500+? which
is it.? I cant even follow this any more. All I ever set out to do was to
say i liked the services you hammered. You turned it into a personal
argument. Im done with "flaming" and mabee the response to your last post
was as bad as your post itself, and for all those who didnt want to hear it
im sorry. You are right i shuouldnt have done the same thing. for that i
apoligize. To the others not you bruce. Ive been on AW longer than you and i
now realize why ive never been into worldbuilding or getting credit for my
activities in AW. Its too much work to be a hobby. For me its a hobby not a
life, and to be honest id rather talk to people who arent so impassioned
with irelevance, I will end this and go back to what i like to do,
Building. I must admit that Ive gained one thing from this experience,
Mabee people you dont know online are better friends than you can get in
real life. Too bad youve come to these conclusions, but its not insanitys
fault. Im not mad at you at all. Youre the one who decided to sever our
friendship because you dont like it when others dont agree with you. Sorry
to all those who hate my mega posts, this will be the last big one.

Shane (KBM)

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