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May 26, 2006, 6:46pm

Just in case any of you missed the grand announcement...



Immigration Officer: Welcome to ActiveWorlds :) The May Newsletter:
http://www.activeworlds.com/newsletter
In order to convert public building worlds to version 4.1, building in these
worlds will be disabled during the next 3 days. We expect to release 4.1 on
May 30th

sweets

May 26, 2006, 6:56pm

oh wow it's coming out. That's neet!

People can use these 3 days to perhaps break their addictions to ugly
public buildings worlds and perhaps try their hands at something new..
like the world Avatar! ha!

May 26, 2006, 9:45pm

Lets see how many people it brings in on the day.

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May 26, 2006, 9:46pm

My guess would be 0

May 26, 2006, 11:52pm

You will see a slight jump in activity in AW.
Followed by a slight drop in activity.

People come in, have fun. Then it goes back to normal. Thats the only guess
I've got.

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May 28, 2006, 1:20am

If they are like me and using a nasty old worn out computer, still on windows
95, they will be shut out of AW completely, according to the rumor I heard.
Unfortunately, Im not able to upgrade windows on this computer & cant afford a
new computer, due to family crisis. I guess I'll end up shut out of AW?

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May 28, 2006, 6:58am

I've not heard that Color, far as I know it's still as compatible as always.
Hope to see you ... and good like with your family crisis, will keep you in
my thoughts and prayers hun. Hugzzz

Lady NightHawk



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May 28, 2006, 10:10am

If u can run 3.6 on your puter then u should be able to run 4.1
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May 28, 2006, 12:42pm

actually, i'm not too sure about this, but i believe 4.1 unis will not be
compatiable with 3.6 browsers. remember something about that, not 100% sure
though.

-SWE

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May 28, 2006, 3:08pm

I heard on 4.1 they had to go with Windows 98 or above only because of
certain drivers that won't work on Windows 95. But we'll see.


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May 28, 2006, 10:00pm

Let's not *think* ... just try it when it comes out ... I'm sure it will
work fine, just more features! Breathe people, breeeeeathe :o}

LNH



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May 28, 2006, 10:12pm

well he could always hope for another false alarm....which would not
surprise a lot of us if it happened so we would not beat him up about it LOL

sweets

May 28, 2006, 10:19pm

Also heard this is true about linux. :(

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May 28, 2006, 10:30pm

lol, so always be pesimistic aye? if your right, you can say you were right,
if you were wrong, everyone would be too happy to care :)

-SWE

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May 28, 2006, 10:43pm

Mom used to say - a pessimist is someone that expects everything to go wrong
so when it does they are not surprised. They handle life better than the
optimist that needs psychiatric care because of the horrible shock of
something not going right....

ps: when it goes right, we expect it to have many bugs and then break
down....so no big shocks there either LMAO

Momma raised no fool heh

sweets

May 28, 2006, 10:59pm

No-one, and I stress absolutely no-one should be running windows 95 and
connected to the internet...

Or anything below XP for that matter.

--
- Mark Randall
http://www.temporal-solutions.co.uk

"We're Systems and Networks..."
"It's our job to know..."

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May 29, 2006, 3:38am

xp fanboy

Kidding. :P

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May 29, 2006, 3:11pm

I think that is correct, but in AW Universe i would hope that 3.6 is still
compatable for now. Forcing people to start using a beta that requires more
from your pc than ever before isn't a good move.
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May 29, 2006, 5:23pm

4.1 and 3.6 are going to be on a totally different universe. So technically
you could run 3.6 and 4.1 at the same time, this is supposed to help,
because 4.1 can be checked by world owners etc, to see if it all works
properly before they shut down the 3.6 universe.

The point being I believe, or so I have been told by my source, is that they
will copy the world from 3.6 to 4.1, and then people can test it, however,
when 4.1 comes out, anything you do in 3.6 will not be in 4.1 and vice
versa.

As always, it seems like everything is backward compatiable, so all your
av's objects etc should run in 4.1/

Some good news, for those who have not had a chance to check out any
versions of 4.1, is that the effects, ie. lighting and water are a lot
better, and easier to use in 4.1 and some of the lag issues dealt with,
again dependant on how much is in one area, and how good your computer is.

Apologies on jumping in on this conversation, but it is always a shame to
see anyone leave, just because a company can't be bothered to make new stuff
backward compatiable.

On the issue of using windows 95. You may be able to get a hold of a
windows 98, if you look in the right place. Your computer should be able to
handle it.

Feel free to gram me and I might be able to help you out on that side of
things.

Oh and people, don't hold your breath, blue isn't really your color lol.

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May 29, 2006, 6:47pm

In any company's defense, I think it's unreasonable and absurd to expect
them to support an 11 year old OS. You should only expect backwards
compatibility to a certain degree - 1 or 2 generations old.

Right now you can get a Dell computer for $300. You can even pay monthly
for it - 9 bucks a month. Not advertising dell or anything, just showing how
cheap modern PCs can be ;)

- Com

> Apologies on jumping in on this conversation, but it is always a shame to
> see anyone leave, just because a company can't be bothered to make new
> stuff backward compatiable.

May 29, 2006, 6:58pm

I agree with that, but after all, win 95, is actually only 2 generations,
unless you include of course win98SE and win milleniim (apologies on the
spelling)

I do agree with your comment that expecting things to go backwards too far
is unreasonable, and also tigerdirect have a lot of base machines, that come
with just the bare essensials at prices less than $300, especially if you
already have a monitor, keyboard etc, no need to buy a full kit if you
already have parts.

Although, I think in this thread that someone said support for 95 was taken
away ages ago, so if it still runs 3.6 then I guess 4.1 should run too, if
it uses the same technology.

I have only just joined these newsgroups, so not really sure on who is who
or anything, so I apologise if my information is incorrect.

I just hope that people can make the change, cause AW for all it's faults is
still a good thing to have. It is unreasonable to expect things to run
perfectly 100% of the time. I mean look at Microsoft. Nearly everyone uses
Windows and they are forever fixing it. If someone comes out with better
then people will use it. I agree there is other operating systems out
there, but they are not user friendly. After all not everyone is a computer
whizz. Most people just want to turn it on, and go, not worry about how it
all works.

Anyway, it does seem like there is a lot of knowledge floating around in
these groups, so hopefully things can be worked out.

Please keep it up, it is helpful to know whats going on

Have fun
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May 29, 2006, 7:08pm

Welcome to the NG's Angelicus.

May 29, 2006, 7:14pm

Thank you, Talisan.

I also joined the world builders newsgroup. I believe I have see you post
in there also.

Seems definately 2 good places for news, views, and problem solving.

I expect to see these boards go nuts over the next few days.

As an owner of 2 worlds, and a member of a 3rd. I certainly expect to busy,
cause there is no way this upgrade will go on without any problems.
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May 29, 2006, 7:35pm

[View Quote] Nothing wrong with Windows 2000, as it's still quite supported.

May 29, 2006, 7:46pm

[View Quote] They dropped the _official_ support for Windows 95 six years ago already, with AW 3.0:
"Active Worlds 3.0 requires Windows 98. Because Microsoft has not made DirectX 7.0 available for Windows NT 4.0, this means that
Active Worlds 3.0 will not currently run under Windows NT 4.0. While not "officially" supported, in practice 3.0 should also be able
to run on Windows 95 and Windows 2000 systems (provided DirectX 7.0 has been installed and the other hardware requirements are
met)."

--
Mauz
http://mauz.info

May 29, 2006, 7:59pm

That is definately a valid point. Although with DirectX being up to version
9.0c I believe, will 4.1 even run on DirectX 7.

Unfortunately I have no knowledge of the background workings of AW. Since I
don't do programming and I don't work for AW.

It is quite humbling when I sit here and read this, cause I can build, (but
not make objects), I can build computers, and usually solve problems, but I
feel like a total idiot when I see some of the information put up in these
newsgroups.

I do know that even Microsoft is removing support and updates for 98, either
this year or aty some point during 2007, so it is going to be hard to see
that 4.1 will run on 95, but it may happen, it is something that will have
to be tested I guess.

However, I do know that 4.1 and 3.6 are supposed to be on 2 seperate
universes, but I don't know how long 3.6 will be running for. It is my
guess that they will phaze it out over time, but again, this is by no means
fact.

If I had more system details, and I am sure that myself and many others
would be able to find parts/software to be able to help out those with older
systems.

hmmm, that could be an interesting thread. With all the knowledge floating
around, we could help out those who have trouble with the new 4.1.

Just an idea!!!!!!
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May 30, 2006, 11:42am

Someone sent me this not too long ago when I asked about the minimum and
preferred system requirements for 4.1:

4.1 Minimum System Requirements:

Pentium CPU 300Mhz or equivalent 64MB Memory Microsoft Windows (98, Me,
NT4, 2000, or XP) DirectX 7 or later Windows Media Player 6.4 or later
D3D video card with at least 8MB and the latest drivers

However, for the best possible experience in Active Worlds 4.1 we
recommend the following:

Pentium III CPU 750Mhz or better 128MB Memory / 256MB Memory for XP
Microsoft Windows 98, Me, 2000, or XP 500MB free disk space DirectX 8.1
or later Windows Media Player 9 or later 3D accelerated video card with
at least 16MB and the latest drivers

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