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May 29, 2006, 5:23pm

4.1 and 3.6 are going to be on a totally different universe. So technically
you could run 3.6 and 4.1 at the same time, this is supposed to help,
because 4.1 can be checked by world owners etc, to see if it all works
properly before they shut down the 3.6 universe.

The point being I believe, or so I have been told by my source, is that they
will copy the world from 3.6 to 4.1, and then people can test it, however,
when 4.1 comes out, anything you do in 3.6 will not be in 4.1 and vice
versa.

As always, it seems like everything is backward compatiable, so all your
av's objects etc should run in 4.1/

Some good news, for those who have not had a chance to check out any
versions of 4.1, is that the effects, ie. lighting and water are a lot
better, and easier to use in 4.1 and some of the lag issues dealt with,
again dependant on how much is in one area, and how good your computer is.

Apologies on jumping in on this conversation, but it is always a shame to
see anyone leave, just because a company can't be bothered to make new stuff
backward compatiable.

On the issue of using windows 95. You may be able to get a hold of a
windows 98, if you look in the right place. Your computer should be able to
handle it.

Feel free to gram me and I might be able to help you out on that side of
things.

Oh and people, don't hold your breath, blue isn't really your color lol.

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May 29, 2006, 6:58pm

I agree with that, but after all, win 95, is actually only 2 generations,
unless you include of course win98SE and win milleniim (apologies on the
spelling)

I do agree with your comment that expecting things to go backwards too far
is unreasonable, and also tigerdirect have a lot of base machines, that come
with just the bare essensials at prices less than $300, especially if you
already have a monitor, keyboard etc, no need to buy a full kit if you
already have parts.

Although, I think in this thread that someone said support for 95 was taken
away ages ago, so if it still runs 3.6 then I guess 4.1 should run too, if
it uses the same technology.

I have only just joined these newsgroups, so not really sure on who is who
or anything, so I apologise if my information is incorrect.

I just hope that people can make the change, cause AW for all it's faults is
still a good thing to have. It is unreasonable to expect things to run
perfectly 100% of the time. I mean look at Microsoft. Nearly everyone uses
Windows and they are forever fixing it. If someone comes out with better
then people will use it. I agree there is other operating systems out
there, but they are not user friendly. After all not everyone is a computer
whizz. Most people just want to turn it on, and go, not worry about how it
all works.

Anyway, it does seem like there is a lot of knowledge floating around in
these groups, so hopefully things can be worked out.

Please keep it up, it is helpful to know whats going on

Have fun
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May 29, 2006, 7:14pm

Thank you, Talisan.

I also joined the world builders newsgroup. I believe I have see you post
in there also.

Seems definately 2 good places for news, views, and problem solving.

I expect to see these boards go nuts over the next few days.

As an owner of 2 worlds, and a member of a 3rd. I certainly expect to busy,
cause there is no way this upgrade will go on without any problems.
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May 29, 2006, 7:59pm

That is definately a valid point. Although with DirectX being up to version
9.0c I believe, will 4.1 even run on DirectX 7.

Unfortunately I have no knowledge of the background workings of AW. Since I
don't do programming and I don't work for AW.

It is quite humbling when I sit here and read this, cause I can build, (but
not make objects), I can build computers, and usually solve problems, but I
feel like a total idiot when I see some of the information put up in these
newsgroups.

I do know that even Microsoft is removing support and updates for 98, either
this year or aty some point during 2007, so it is going to be hard to see
that 4.1 will run on 95, but it may happen, it is something that will have
to be tested I guess.

However, I do know that 4.1 and 3.6 are supposed to be on 2 seperate
universes, but I don't know how long 3.6 will be running for. It is my
guess that they will phaze it out over time, but again, this is by no means
fact.

If I had more system details, and I am sure that myself and many others
would be able to find parts/software to be able to help out those with older
systems.

hmmm, that could be an interesting thread. With all the knowledge floating
around, we could help out those who have trouble with the new 4.1.

Just an idea!!!!!!
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May 29, 2006, 7:11pm

well, it would make things a lot easier, cause, at the moment, you have to
sit them on your list, just to stop them. However, how often does it
actually happen.

Unless you are part of a world with the person you don't like is also part
of, then it is going to be rare you will meet those people and even then,
you can mute them on sight, so is it really that difficult?

I fail to understand why it is a problem for someone to know you are online
or not. If it is a problem due to harrassment or abuse issues then the
offender should be reported to AW, as their term & conditions apply, and the
offender will be banned from AW anyway.

Just my point of view.

Have fun.....
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May 30, 2006, 1:39am

Is there a wager going yet about if it will work or not?

I'm sorry but my money would be on there being bugs in the system.
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May 29, 2006, 8:56pm

I really don't think blue is your color Talisan lol.

I am sure there is somewhere that it is May 30th unfortunately AW isn't
located there
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May 29, 2006, 9:33pm

hmmm, now thats a good point.

Did AW actually mention to which time they were working too???

Big difference between real time and VRT
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May 29, 2006, 11:17pm

How many worlds do you currently have?

Wish I could afford a p100, of course dependant on the number of users

I still can't wait to see what 4.1 can do, however buggy it is, just hope I
don't have to deal with lag issues etc. Being a builder is a pain in the
backside when people won't listen. World Owner and World builder, tis fun,
but a pain in the backside at the same time

Isn't AW wonderful
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May 29, 2006, 11:40pm

well wouldn't it be like easier on your wallet (and your heart) if you just
upgraded to a p80 or something?

It's funny, it costs less to have a p50 15 user and a p30 5 user than it
does to have a p80 20 user, yet it's exactly the same amount, go figure it.

well I hope you can manage it, I wish I had enough time to visit half the
worlds, just spend more time running stuff than I do visiting.

I still cringe at my renewel fee, although it isn't till next january.
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May 29, 2006, 11:43pm

Wait a minute - SCHOOL

um did no-one tell you about summer break???

I have to work nights, so if it comes out before midnight (it's currently
9:41 EST) then I may get to see it

Hmmm, can anyone say "extreme" bandwidth usage?

it's a shame really, I am sure we could break a record for the biggest
symultaneous (or however you spell it)) if we all click download at the same
time lol (WEG)

Not sure AW servers could handle everyone logging on to 4.1 though

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May 29, 2006, 11:51pm

damn, thats harsh.

My stepson finished last week, so I feel for ya.

well, at least you will have plenty of time to use it in a week or so, it
isn't that far away.

I have to work 6 nights a week so be thankful it's only school lol. I have
another 30+ years of work left. lol


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May 30, 2006, 12:05am

I think a lot of it is ignorance, after all it is quite easy to stop them,
but only if you know how.

Anyway, lets, get back to something fun hehe

I am getting mixed reports about whats happening

So are we reisding ourselves to the fact it isn't out until tomorrow
morning??

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May 30, 2006, 12:17am

was it something I said, or is everyone upgrading without me?

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May 30, 2006, 12:52am

lol, I think I will be purple by the time it gets here. I have to go to
work later tonight, so at least the time will pass a little more quickly, I
half expect people to stay up all night waiting for it.

Although, it is amazing how much more activity there is in AW today,
compared to normal, however I am well aware that in here it takes a while
for people to reply.

It's just another way of communicating for me,cause I can keep an eye on it,
without having to travel to other worlds.

I have seen your name in lots of places but probably would have never spoken
to you in I wasn't in here.

By the way, apart from being a world owner, you do object modelling right?

I can't model, but I love building, was thinking of charging for building
for people. not sure anyone would go for it however.

I think I'll stick with designing websites, and problem solving, after all I
find it more enjoyable to build computers for people, and to do websites.

Building is great fun to me, but I also know how many people take their
builds and worlds personally, so not many people want someone fixing their
builds, or putting things into their world.
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May 30, 2006, 1:38am

lol, the conversation is taking a definate turn for the worse.

I can tell it's getting late, and I was actually talking about AW objects.

Is anyone biting their fingernails yet lol

You do seem like a nice fella, but I don't need the model pictures thanks.
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May 30, 2006, 11:47pm

I don't think it's quite second sight, it's just an understanding of AW lol.

Lets face it, when they launched it, nearly 500 people at least much have
clicked on that link, and then over 500 people logged in, something was
bound to break

Still from what I saw 4.1 ROCKS!!!!
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May 30, 2006, 12:26pm

I don't know if anyone or everyone has seen this, but just something
interesting to read, while we all sit here and wait

http://help.activeworlds.com/document.php?aw41

Happy waiting

May 30, 2006, 10:46pm

My apologies, I am afraid I didn't get a copy.

Sorry folks
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May 30, 2006, 10:48pm

Thanks Delta

I am looking for the new 4.1 world server if anyone has the link please
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May 30, 2006, 8:26pm

Well you can use firefox for newsgroup, I believe that works on a Mac but I
could be wrong.

I could be wrong but doesn't the AW browser work on a Mac?

If You want a copy of Service Pack 2, then go to the microsoft site, and
look for it under the networking/administrator area. There should be an exe
file so you can download service pack 2.


As for a PC emulator, you could try going to www.download.com, and see if
they have anything.

http://www.macwindows.com/emulator.html - is a emulator site, they seem to
have free emulators

Hope this helps

Angelicus
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May 30, 2006, 10:23pm

Ok, well I have downloaded it, and put it onto disc, but I am afraid I am no
MAC expert, so I am unable to know how you would do it.

Good luck, if you need any more help just ask. I may be able to help you
out.
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May 30, 2006, 11:09pm

If you are going to use an emulator, then you may not need windows on there.

The emulator may fool aw into thinking it's on windows, just a thought.

I personally have not put windows on a MAC, but I have burnt windows XP Pro
+SP2 onto a disc and ran it from there, now I don't know if this will work
for a MAC
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Jun 3, 2006, 7:30pm

Try downloading a trial version, and using a crack

Has worked for me in the past.

Could also try using a file share program to get a copy.

Just an idea ;)
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Jun 3, 2006, 9:07pm

I downloaded XP 64bit from the microsoft site

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/trial/viewtrialoptions.mspx

There is the link for the trial version of Windows Server 2003.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/facts/trial.mspx

There is the link for the trial verson of Windows XP Pro 64

SO yes You can just download windows from the official site

But hey I guess that was just silly right.

Plus

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=049C9DBE-3B8E-4F30-8245-9E368D3CDB5A&displaylang=en

The link for downloading XP Service Pack 2 without using the automatic
update feature

So yea I can download windows from the official site.

http://www.microsoft.com/products/info/default.aspx?view=22&pcid=9d273393-92c9-4807-be9c-515a0d152415#Windows

A link to all the available trial software.

http://aresgalaxy.sourceforge.net/ - Ares file sharing

http://www.bittornado.com/ - Bit Torrent

http://www.zeropaid.com/kazaalite/ - Kazaa Lite (The One without the spyware
in it)

http://www.limewire.com/english/content/home.shtml - Limewire

http://morpheus.com/ - Morpheus

http://www.edonkey2000.com/ - eDonkey


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May 30, 2006, 10:49pm

Ha ha nothing serious, but is anyone else having trouble staying in 4.1

I was in there for all of about 20 minutes, now I can't get back in, just
trying to find out if it's Me, the hosting or AW

Any info would be great thanks

May 30, 2006, 11:15pm

Thanks Kenneth

Can't say it is a surprise. After all, I am running a 3mb connection and it
took over 1/2 hour to download the program in the first place. The AW
servers must have had a s*it fit
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May 30, 2006, 11:28pm

lol, yup, I said all along that the AW servers couldn't do it.

They should have rolled it out in sections.

First for the host, (which they did)
Then world owners
then citz
then tourists

not just put it in the immigration and leave it as a free for all.

Oh well, looks like we'll all be waiting till this time tomorrow to get 4.1
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Jun 1, 2006, 7:10pm

Hi Marnie

It would seem that you have a dll file missing,

http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?gdiplus

The above link will allow you to download the gdiplus.dll (for free)
however I don't know where it needs to be copied too, so that may be a bit
of trial and error on your part, but I think it needs to be copied to your
system or system 32 folder within windows.

Perhaps someone else can confirm?

Anyway hope it helps.
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May 31, 2006, 7:11pm

Just so people know. I know a lot of people have had this problem, but.....

Get out of AW Gate

Everything seems to run fine once you get out of AW gate.

The freezing and locking up, seems to be just because everyone hits AW gate
when they go back in.

As for switching between 3.6 and 4.1, I have the both installed on my
machine, in two seperate locations and can switch back and forth no problem.

I am running a 3200+ AMD Athlon 64 which runs at 2Ghz with 1.5GB RAM, and a
NVIDIA GeForce 6600 with 256RAM.

I do know however, that after speak with other people that AW Gate does
cause problems in 4.1 but other worlds are fine.

From what I have also heard, 3.6 is going to be running for a couple more
weeks before the 3.6 universe is shut down. (This is what I have been told,
not fact!!!) Anyway, I have also been told that the world server for 4.1 is
still in beta version, which is why it is so hard to come by, some people
have it some don't. Other Hosts don't want to use it till the bugs are
worked out (don't know if there is any bugs). So if you are a world owner,
or know a world owner, they are going to have to speak to the person who
hosts their worlds.

Anyway, I hope this helps. 4.1 itself runs well, although I am not sure AW
Gate is ready to have the amount of people it has in there.

Please also note, (everyone probably already knows this)
AW will only show you a certain amount of users, so if someone doesn't
answer you, chances are AW swallowed your words.

Kind of funny really, never had that problem until yesterday, when nearly
300 people turned up in the same place.

For anyone who is a tourist, you have to wait, 4.1 will get here soon
enough, after all, they are shutting down the 3.6 universe, so they have to
let everyone have it sooner or later.

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