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My rant... (Community)
My rant... // Community
Nov 7, 2003, 7:35pm
Surely it would be simple to make a world server that puts AW's default
terrain height down one 0.01 lol
~John
[View Quote]"bowen" <ten.sardna at newob> wrote in message
news:3faab88c at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> e n z o wrote:
>
>
> Companion world. AWClassic\ClassicAW. You don't want to make a new
> world for the new features, you want to move the present AW to an older
> world and keep the newer features in the standard AW. It works out
> better this way, newer people won't get confused... but if you feel
> really adament about it, NewAW works just fine.
>
> I'm sure you could spring for the 200 GB Hard drive to get for it if you
> look hard enough. Take a $500 out of your checks for a year or something.
>
> --
> --Bowen--
> http://bowen.homelinux.com
> Give me ideas.
>
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Nov 7, 2003, 8:43pm
Who cares about the technicalities of it? Spamming, flooding, it's all
the same to me. This thread is about AW, not A!!CT.
Hey, that rhymes...
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> In response to your reply to me, A!!CT world is a non profit world,
> InSaNiTy runs a for 'profit" path and world hosting service,
> therefore hes spamming when he advertises his business.
> A!!CT world is a prduct of AW.Inc like AW world or any other world
> owned by AW, infact the license refers to that A!!CT is infact a
> piece of software licensed by AW.Inc. and is owned by AW.Inc
> Therefore its not spamming. Heartfall world hosting is not a product
> of AW nor is it licensed to AW. True A!!CT is not the size of AW
> world, but thats because A!!CT is a world bought from AW.Inc at the
> price we could afford. As for Brock running AWTeen....did Brock in
> fact shell out any money for AWTeen while he was running it? If not
> then whats your point? I said for him to put HIS MONEY where his
> mouth is and do better than me. I'm the head of a community, but I
> put out a lot more than the sum of a $6.95 a month cit to build what
> I have. And I can change things in my world to people's liking
> quicker than requesting it from AW.INC for AW world or AWTeen.
> MrBruce
[View Quote]> "bowen" <ten.sardna at newob> wrote in message
> news:3fab3f53$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> money
> I
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Nov 8, 2003, 8:14am
I'm going to make an enigmatic post. Maybe it will mean something to you,
maybe it won't, but intuition tells me that a lot of the things that have
been called into question, namely your leadership, have roots in your
falling out with Protag over the direction of AW.
The direction you chose for AW isn't at issue. What's at issue is that you
need to work through that yourself. Nobody but you and Protag really knows
what happened, and it has become the stuff of legend around here. If you
haven't put it behind you, I suggest you stop running and face it down once
and for all. And a solution to this community issue may present itself.
Enigmaticness aside...
So you have a community and you didn't intend to build one. You can't just
walk away from that. And you haven't. I appreciate everything you and the
company has done to support other people holding community events.
But we want you and your company to hold some events of your own. You are
the system admin, the President. And it is in your company's best interest
to be part of the community and to be there for them.
You're there for them now, but you're not part of them. Stop acting like a
businessman and come down from on high to mingle with us!! :) Open an
informal dialog to the users and go one step beyond customer service. A
Universal Small Town Feel. You can use that line if you want.
Here's some company goals I think you should consider:
1. Make the universal small town feel part of the company's credo.
2. Establish a policy that all staff must put in a certain amount of time a
week socializing in AW and (not or) posting in the newsgroups. This not
only gives users a dialog to the staff, it gives the staff a knowledge of
community workings, features in the browser, develop a talent for building.
It allows them to better serve customers through e-mail and over the phone
with this knowledge. It creates a better customer service environment and
for the regulars at least, makes those brief contacts over the phone more
personal. And a little play time makes for happier employees.
3. Start with small goals, then slowly graduate onto accomplishing large
ones. Plan and hold one event. Then try to plan two separate events. Be
creative with scheduling, subject matter, etc.
4. Work hard and have fun doing it.
Event ideas
GZ Building Contest
Chat with Enzo & JP at Uncle Enzo's Pizzaria
AW Electric Boogaloo - Disco Partay w/ AW's employees
Virtual Employee for a Day? (brainstorming, here)
Checkers Tournament
Paintball (with AW employees participating)
[View Quote]"sw comit" <swcomit at swcity.net> wrote in message
news:3fa8bb99 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Well this was built up in the SW City Forums, edited for the newsgroups.
If
> you don't care about Alphaworld then there's no need to read this.
> ---
> I've brought up Alphaworld topics countless times in my years here in the
> newsgroups. Only a couple times has AWI commented, in which case it would
> appear they barely even read what I had to say. Because of SW City, I'm
> totally bound to Alphaworld, which means we're ultimately under the
control
> of AWI, and I gotta say I really don't like that. Many of you say
> Alphaworld is dead, move on, but that's simply not the case. Primarily,
no
> one in town wants to abandon ship, and second that there's no where for us
> to go anyway. So, what's so great about Alphaworld? It's an overlooked
> potential for us and AWI. In AW, you got your world owners userbase, and
> your commoner userbase. AWI has been focused on the world owners for many
> versions and years now. Yes, worlds is where the money's at, but this
> indirectly hurts the community. As Goober King has stated, AW is shifting
> from a community to a solo universe. At this rate, we're going to be just
a
> bunch of nice looking worlds with 0 to 3 people in it. That's not a
> community, and a community is what keeps a program going for a long time.
> The commoners form most of your community, and they've always been mostly
> attracted to the big worlds, which are the public worlds basically. The
> public worlds offer vast space, security and state-of-mind that the world
> isn't going to be cleared like so many private worlds do. Well, the
> community is dieing I don't need to tell you that. AWI can only do so
much
> to help the community, and that's basically just working for it a little,
in
> terms of public features, objects, or official events. This is sorta like
> the fertilizer of community health, and the community can help itself for
> everything else....so this is where Alphaworld comes in.
>
> AWI can't seem to get it through their heads that Alphaworld is about the
> only place that allows people to start a town of their own, at least one
> that could reach good size. That's Alphaworld's selling point. It also
> appears to be *painfully obvious* that AWI is not taking advantage of
> Alphaworld's popularity. The popularity is already there, why bother
trying
> to start a new one with NewAW? Alphaworld has the rich history, world
> record setting size and development, and a good sized userbase compared to
> the rest of AW, and they want to let it rot and die instead of continue to
> grow? That's not smart business. All worlds have their caretakers to look
> over world improvements. AWteen's government acts as an organized
caretaker
> system basically, and coupled with it's size it's quite popular. But,
> public worlds have AWI as their caretaker, and frankly they're pretty
lousy
> at this.
>
> And then there's business potential...they musta spent thousands of
dollars
> worth of paid labor building NewAW, where they coulda spent next to
nothing
> fixing up AW. By nothing, I mean that AWI owns countless objects that
> aren't in use, from other worlds of theres. They could do official
events.
> Bring the community together. There are still plenty of features to
unlock.
> Some features may cause problems, but they all have work arounds and AWI
is
> either blind at seeing them or doesn't want to admit they're there. I can
> think of many workarounds as I type this. Doing these cheap things is
like
> instant benefits for us and their business when they really needed it; not
> years down the road putting all your hope in some new flagship world that
> may or may not work, where the was no community input on if we would even
be
> interested in it (I don't for one), and having blind faith that the
> community will even be around by the time its done. And if change does
> cause problems? Are you so scared at fixing it? I'm sure you can do that
a
> lot faster than the time it took to make NewAW.
>
> Ontop of neglecting Alphaworld, they lie to us about it. They said 3
times
> in the newsgroups that there would be a community vote on whether or not
we
> wanted new features in AW. Did we ever get one? No, they just threw in
3d
> axis without input. There was also suppose to be an object submission
> program. It was supervised by Factor, and the program died before it
built
> up speed because he left. Seems like that gave AWI an excuse to disband
the
> whole idea. Shortly before the price hikes, there were plans with
Mountain
> Myst and Duskbat and his crew to revamp AW GZ. But after the price hikes,
> AWI sort of let themselves forget all about this. I've mentioned stuff
like
> this before, and they always make these ridiculous statements that they
can
> never backup about how people "rioted" when features were added before,
like
> when they added the new avatars when only CY existed; And when they gave
us
> some insane 15 minute environment rotating scheme that made 0 sense and
was
> just awful, and of course people complained about it, including me, and
they
> for some reason think we don't want *any* change at all to the
environment,
> which isn't true. They don't even do a winter theme anymore which they
did
> every year. AWI is overly sensitive towards AW conservatives, or what I
> like to call AW Amish (I know a few, don't take it personal if your
reading
> this). I don't mean to offend anyone but I notice many of these people
are
> older in r/l, and it's basically a fact that as you get older your less
> likely to like change. I personally believe them protesting change (for
the
> better) is selfish, them holding onto the past and not seeing great things
> happening in the future. They need to get their priorities straight on
what
> is best for the future of AW.
>
> And, the worst part of it all is that since the price hikes, despite AWI
> claiming they could offer us more with the new revenue, Alphaworld has
seen
> much much less attention than beforehand. That's what really angers
> me...thanks for reading, and here's hoping for a change in case this gets
> read by management; and if you are happening to read this Mr. Noll, if you
> guys aren't going to take care of these public world's futures, let
someone
> else do it. Form an official panel. There *are* functional official
groups
> after all, like PKs, GKs and GET. So it can be done.
>
> - SW Comit, representing the people of SW City
>
>
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Nov 8, 2003, 1:50pm
Interesting....
Poseidon
[View Quote]"sw chris" <chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net> wrote in message
news:3facc1f4$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I'm going to make an enigmatic post. Maybe it will mean something to you,
> maybe it won't, but intuition tells me that a lot of the things that have
> been called into question, namely your leadership, have roots in your
> falling out with Protag over the direction of AW.
>
> The direction you chose for AW isn't at issue. What's at issue is that
you
> need to work through that yourself. Nobody but you and Protag really
knows
> what happened, and it has become the stuff of legend around here. If you
> haven't put it behind you, I suggest you stop running and face it down
once
> and for all. And a solution to this community issue may present itself.
>
> Enigmaticness aside...
>
> So you have a community and you didn't intend to build one. You can't
just
> walk away from that. And you haven't. I appreciate everything you and
the
> company has done to support other people holding community events.
>
> But we want you and your company to hold some events of your own. You are
> the system admin, the President. And it is in your company's best
interest
> to be part of the community and to be there for them.
>
> You're there for them now, but you're not part of them. Stop acting like
a
> businessman and come down from on high to mingle with us!! :) Open an
> informal dialog to the users and go one step beyond customer service. A
> Universal Small Town Feel. You can use that line if you want.
>
> Here's some company goals I think you should consider:
> 1. Make the universal small town feel part of the company's credo.
> 2. Establish a policy that all staff must put in a certain amount of time
a
> week socializing in AW and (not or) posting in the newsgroups. This not
> only gives users a dialog to the staff, it gives the staff a knowledge of
> community workings, features in the browser, develop a talent for
building.
> It allows them to better serve customers through e-mail and over the phone
> with this knowledge. It creates a better customer service environment and
> for the regulars at least, makes those brief contacts over the phone more
> personal. And a little play time makes for happier employees.
> 3. Start with small goals, then slowly graduate onto accomplishing large
> ones. Plan and hold one event. Then try to plan two separate events. Be
> creative with scheduling, subject matter, etc.
> 4. Work hard and have fun doing it.
>
> Event ideas
> GZ Building Contest
> Chat with Enzo & JP at Uncle Enzo's Pizzaria
> AW Electric Boogaloo - Disco Partay w/ AW's employees
> Virtual Employee for a Day? (brainstorming, here)
> Checkers Tournament
> Paintball (with AW employees participating)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "sw comit" <swcomit at swcity.net> wrote in message
> news:3fa8bb99 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> If
the
would
> control
> no
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> a
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> dollars
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> events.
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> someone
> groups
>
>
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Nov 9, 2003, 12:44am
<typicala!!ctuser>
BUTT.RWX ROFLMAO BRUCE YOU ARE SO FUNNAH FUNNAH ROFLMAO BRUCE I WUV YOU CAN
I HAVE A WORLD A FREE CITIZENSHIP BRUCE YOU ARE AWESOME A!!CT IS A GREAT
WORLD. BLAH BLAH BLAH. </typicala!!ctuser>
[View Quote]"mrbruce" <a1ctworld at aol.com> wrote in message
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> LOL... Bowen I hate to admit it, but your not such a bad guy after all, I
> like your response. It made me laugh my butt.rwx off :D
> MrBruce
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Nov 9, 2003, 2:42am
Man I had no idea you were that jealious, my God this is terrible to say the
least.
MrBruce
[View Quote]"brock" <BrockL at iceflare.net> wrote in message
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> <typicala!!ctuser>
> BUTT.RWX ROFLMAO BRUCE YOU ARE SO FUNNAH FUNNAH ROFLMAO BRUCE I WUV YOU
CAN
> I HAVE A WORLD A FREE CITIZENSHIP BRUCE YOU ARE AWESOME A!!CT IS A GREAT
> WORLD. BLAH BLAH BLAH. </typicala!!ctuser>
>
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Nov 9, 2003, 2:33pm
Don't flatter yourself Bruce.
[View Quote]"mrbruce" <a1ctworld at aol.com> wrote in message
news:3fadc59a at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Man I had no idea you were that jealious, my God this is terrible to say
the
> least.
> MrBruce
> "brock" <BrockL at iceflare.net> wrote in message
> news:3fadaa1e$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> CAN
>
>
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Nov 10, 2003, 4:44am
I promiss you I won't Brock. But tell me, if you feel everything I've done
is so wrong, why don't you show me the right way to do it and I'll follow
your example...how's that?
MrBruce
[View Quote]"brock" <BrockL at iceflare.net> wrote in message
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> Don't flatter yourself Bruce.
>
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Nov 10, 2003, 5:03am
Bruce: how about ending this petty arguement that has nothing to do with the
topic at hand, and don't follow what brock tells you.
Brock: stop pestering bruce, got it?
Just bring this arguement to a topic of it's own, but don't bring it to a
topic about the AW community.
Nov 11, 2003, 4:12am
That's the best suggestion I've heard in a long time and I agree :) Now back
to discussing what can make AW world (as well as the whole program) be more
attractive and satisfying to all ;)
MrBruce
[View Quote]"ferruccio" <startrek3 at earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:3faf3858 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Bruce: how about ending this petty arguement that has nothing to do with
the
> topic at hand, and don't follow what brock tells you.
>
> Brock: stop pestering bruce, got it?
>
> Just bring this arguement to a topic of it's own, but don't bring it to a
> topic about the AW community.
>
>
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Nov 12, 2003, 4:27pm
I agree.Its lookin pretty old and who cares if its "History"!This is not
real.If you really want the old GZ go to AWGZ.It should be showing what you
can do with AW with newer versions and not some old crappy junk made with
version 0.1
--Ronan
[View Quote]"brock" <BrockL at iceflare.net> wrote in message
news:3fa9beaf at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Well first of all, all those people with crappy computers are going to
have
> to upgrade sooner or later, so remove them from your thoughts, revamp AW,
> make it wicked awesome.
>
> For AW world itself, yes use a skybox, use moving clouds, BUILD a new gz,
> and get AW world up to speed, a new gz would be nice instead of the crappy
> one where a bunch of old people talk at. A new one showing off AW's power.
>
>
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Nov 13, 2003, 4:23am
I agree with ronan. Also, we are all paying 350% the price we paid in 2001,
and Alphaworld has seen no changes worth paying the new prices for.
Nov 20, 2003, 1:33pm
TAG YOU'RE IT!
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[View Quote]"lady nighthawk" <dmurtagh27 at hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3faad1ea at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I do! LOL *Pick me, pick me*. I'm on a satellite (two-way) connection ...
> bet you don't have many of those alpha/betas!?
>
> Lady NightHawk
>
>
>
> "e n z o" <enzo at activeworlds.com> wrote in message
> news:3faab489$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> SDK
variety
> and
> party
tech
> that
a
> 'bots',
the
> full
to
dealing
>
>
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Nov 20, 2003, 7:25pm
E N Z O... did you click your Sent column and arrange them the wrong way
again...?
- MR
[View Quote]"e n z o" <enzo at activeworlds.com> wrote in message
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> TAG YOU'RE IT!
>
> E
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Nov 21, 2003, 2:00am
Pick ME, Pick ME..rofl
[View Quote]"e n z o" <enzo at activeworlds.com> wrote in message
news:3fbcdec5$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> TAG YOU'RE IT!
>
> E
>
>
> "lady nighthawk" <dmurtagh27 at hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3faad1ea at server1.Activeworlds.com...
....
an
> variety
reports
> tech
half
> a
available
for
takes
one
the
> the
that
of
until
fixed,
offered
> to
planning,
> dealing
appearances
goes
>
>
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Nov 21, 2003, 6:54am
Wow E N Z O! Great buisness idea. Feel free to share your ideas and thoughts
with us in the future.
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