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Wow.... (Community)
Wow.... // Community
Jan 27, 2003, 11:06pm
my citizenship expires tommorow...
and I'm not sad about it either.
if you think about it, what exactly IS activeworlds?
a chatroom. just a chatroom where you can create your own things. I sort of
feel really depressed after looking back at it... after a tough day of
classes what did I look forward to? talking to other people I don't know and
playing with intangible objects. To think that I actually dreamed of making
a game on it! I thought a bump ride that bumped you back and forth was fun,
and got shivers down my spine while walking down a haunted house that looked
like it was carved with a mallet.
what will I say to my children when they ask me what I was like when I was
their age? "oh, daddy liked to make pretty houses and pretend he liked
exploring things that could move up and down and make noises too!"
looking back at that period of my life makes me so angry at myself! not only
was the program itself extremely limited, but lets take a look at the
community. on the newsgroup, most of the arguments have to do with spelling
and grammatical errors. those that don't are usually jibberish or a plea for
attention.
and even worse than that, what the hell was I smoking when I thought of my
name for gods sake!? was I that intoxicated by the alluring satisfaction of
creating my ideal city? was it a comeback for all the 1337H4XX0R names that
noone could spell right?!
look at yourselves, people. really, just look atyourself. why are you using
AW? do you want to be remembered for spending all your time on a chatroom? a
chatroom which promises a virtual life? is there something wrong with your
own life, that you'd want to spend all your time on something pretending
you're something that you're not?
for those of you who are sorry that I'm leaving:
don't be. be very happy that some of us saw the light and decided not to
waste his/her life.
yours truly
-William Killoran
PS- I don't mean to have offended anyone nor am I bashing AW... I just want
others to see the light as well... oh and if you made it this far I
congratulate you, didn't think anyone would bother to finish this. have a
nice day
Jan 28, 2003, 12:16am
All I'll say to that in response is: Some of us still have our
imaginations intact. :)
[View Quote]chiram seawing wrote:
> my citizenship expires tommorow...
>
> and I'm not sad about it either.
>
> if you think about it, what exactly IS activeworlds?
>
> a chatroom. just a chatroom where you can create your own things. I sort of
> feel really depressed after looking back at it... after a tough day of
> classes what did I look forward to? talking to other people I don't know and
> playing with intangible objects. To think that I actually dreamed of making
> a game on it! I thought a bump ride that bumped you back and forth was fun,
> and got shivers down my spine while walking down a haunted house that looked
> like it was carved with a mallet.
>
> what will I say to my children when they ask me what I was like when I was
> their age? "oh, daddy liked to make pretty houses and pretend he liked
> exploring things that could move up and down and make noises too!"
>
> looking back at that period of my life makes me so angry at myself! not only
> was the program itself extremely limited, but lets take a look at the
> community. on the newsgroup, most of the arguments have to do with spelling
> and grammatical errors. those that don't are usually jibberish or a plea for
> attention.
>
> and even worse than that, what the hell was I smoking when I thought of my
> name for gods sake!? was I that intoxicated by the alluring satisfaction of
> creating my ideal city? was it a comeback for all the 1337H4XX0R names that
> noone could spell right?!
>
> look at yourselves, people. really, just look atyourself. why are you using
> AW? do you want to be remembered for spending all your time on a chatroom? a
> chatroom which promises a virtual life? is there something wrong with your
> own life, that you'd want to spend all your time on something pretending
> you're something that you're not?
>
> for those of you who are sorry that I'm leaving:
> don't be. be very happy that some of us saw the light and decided not to
> waste his/her life.
>
> yours truly
> -William Killoran
>
> PS- I don't mean to have offended anyone nor am I bashing AW... I just want
> others to see the light as well... oh and if you made it this far I
> congratulate you, didn't think anyone would bother to finish this. have a
> nice day
>
>
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--
Goober King
Life without imagination must be sooo mundane...
gooberking at utn.cjb.net
Jan 28, 2003, 12:21am
lol, if you thought that you could make a game out of AW, then you had your
priorities messed up, the wealth in AW isn't it's gamehood... it is the
community of people here, the wealth of creativity, knowledge, and ability
that we have in here. Of course we have arguements, I would be really
worried if we didn't. But the fact is, that we stand out from any other
chatroom not only in technology, but in community as well. No other chat
room that I've found (other than AW based technology) has the ability to
have close-knit communities inside of them as AW. Let's face it, we have an
entire culture here in AW. Many, in fact.
The reason I am on AW, is that I recognize the immense wealth of creativity
to be found here. I also recognize the wonderful community in which we live
in. A VR life? There is no such promise with active worlds. And no one
should ever spend all their time on AW, in my opinion.
Also, back to the problem of arguements. I've been in many chatrooms,
messageboards, and newsgroups. And I have seen debates so cold, angry, and
filled with hate that it would make everyone in here seem like little kids.
That big gor debate we had a little while back with the cy's... heh, when I
looked back and compared it to some of the religious debates I've seen on
places like the Yahoo Groups... That was childsplay. The bigotry, hatred,
descrimination in here, is nothing compared to the 'outside world' We are
very priviledged to be here, and to have such a great community. Even though
we don't always agree on things, we for the most part respect that.
Comming to AW was the best move I've made when it comes to chat rooms. It is
an awesome technology that gives everyone the ability to express themselves
creatively. I am sorry that you aren't seeing it as such.
As for you leaving, if you were just looking at AW as a game, a chat room,
and as nothing more, then of course it isn't going to interest you :-) but
if you look beneath the surface, and get into the rich culture, it's
amazing! Not to mention the history, stories, and lore of AW. Ever just chat
with a cit about what all has happened since they have come to AW? I've only
been here for two years, and I have quite a good amount of stories.
Well, I'm done yapping for now :-)
J
[View Quote]"chiram seawing" <Seawing at Planet-Safira.com> wrote in message
news:3e35d779 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> my citizenship expires tommorow...
>
> and I'm not sad about it either.
>
> if you think about it, what exactly IS activeworlds?
>
> a chatroom. just a chatroom where you can create your own things. I sort
of
> feel really depressed after looking back at it... after a tough day of
> classes what did I look forward to? talking to other people I don't know
and
> playing with intangible objects. To think that I actually dreamed of
making
> a game on it! I thought a bump ride that bumped you back and forth was
fun,
> and got shivers down my spine while walking down a haunted house that
looked
> like it was carved with a mallet.
>
> what will I say to my children when they ask me what I was like when I was
> their age? "oh, daddy liked to make pretty houses and pretend he liked
> exploring things that could move up and down and make noises too!"
>
> looking back at that period of my life makes me so angry at myself! not
only
> was the program itself extremely limited, but lets take a look at the
> community. on the newsgroup, most of the arguments have to do with
spelling
> and grammatical errors. those that don't are usually jibberish or a plea
for
> attention.
>
> and even worse than that, what the hell was I smoking when I thought of my
> name for gods sake!? was I that intoxicated by the alluring satisfaction
of
> creating my ideal city? was it a comeback for all the 1337H4XX0R names
that
> noone could spell right?!
>
> look at yourselves, people. really, just look atyourself. why are you
using
> AW? do you want to be remembered for spending all your time on a chatroom?
a
> chatroom which promises a virtual life? is there something wrong with your
> own life, that you'd want to spend all your time on something pretending
> you're something that you're not?
>
> for those of you who are sorry that I'm leaving:
> don't be. be very happy that some of us saw the light and decided not to
> waste his/her life.
>
> yours truly
> -William Killoran
>
> PS- I don't mean to have offended anyone nor am I bashing AW... I just
want
> others to see the light as well... oh and if you made it this far I
> congratulate you, didn't think anyone would bother to finish this. have a
> nice day
>
>
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Jan 28, 2003, 1:54am
And I thought I was the only one seeing the light. Best of luck to you
Chiram or whoever you are in Real Life. May the best of reality make you
smile and may you find wonderful friends to establish a REAL relationship
with. As for me, I will go as far as any cit extensions can take me but I
too will not pay all that money for a virtual reality chat room. It is nice
meeting people from all over the world. It is nice getting creative too. But
what do we really have to show for it all???? I've seen more broken hearts
and egos online than I have in real life. And you certainly can't preserve
what you create online indefinately. Tis more rewarding to create real
relationships and real objects in Real Life. I wish you luck and God Bless
you and yours. ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((online
hugz))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) ;-"D
[View Quote]"chiram seawing" <Seawing at Planet-Safira.com> wrote in message
news:3e35d779 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> my citizenship expires tommorow...
>
> and I'm not sad about it either.
>
> if you think about it, what exactly IS activeworlds?
>
> a chatroom. just a chatroom where you can create your own things. I sort
of
> feel really depressed after looking back at it... after a tough day of
> classes what did I look forward to? talking to other people I don't know
and
> playing with intangible objects. To think that I actually dreamed of
making
> a game on it! I thought a bump ride that bumped you back and forth was
fun,
> and got shivers down my spine while walking down a haunted house that
looked
> like it was carved with a mallet.
>
> what will I say to my children when they ask me what I was like when I was
> their age? "oh, daddy liked to make pretty houses and pretend he liked
> exploring things that could move up and down and make noises too!"
>
> looking back at that period of my life makes me so angry at myself! not
only
> was the program itself extremely limited, but lets take a look at the
> community. on the newsgroup, most of the arguments have to do with
spelling
> and grammatical errors. those that don't are usually jibberish or a plea
for
> attention.
>
> and even worse than that, what the hell was I smoking when I thought of my
> name for gods sake!? was I that intoxicated by the alluring satisfaction
of
> creating my ideal city? was it a comeback for all the 1337H4XX0R names
that
> noone could spell right?!
>
> look at yourselves, people. really, just look atyourself. why are you
using
> AW? do you want to be remembered for spending all your time on a chatroom?
a
> chatroom which promises a virtual life? is there something wrong with your
> own life, that you'd want to spend all your time on something pretending
> you're something that you're not?
>
> for those of you who are sorry that I'm leaving:
> don't be. be very happy that some of us saw the light and decided not to
> waste his/her life.
>
> yours truly
> -William Killoran
>
> PS- I don't mean to have offended anyone nor am I bashing AW... I just
want
> others to see the light as well... oh and if you made it this far I
> congratulate you, didn't think anyone would bother to finish this. have a
> nice day
>
>
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Jan 28, 2003, 1:54am
Well said, J.
[View Quote]"jstone2004" <j at jlife.net> wrote in message
news:3e35e917$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> lol, if you thought that you could make a game out of AW, then you had
your
> priorities messed up, the wealth in AW isn't it's gamehood... it is the
> community of people here, the wealth of creativity, knowledge, and ability
> that we have in here. Of course we have arguements, I would be really
> worried if we didn't. But the fact is, that we stand out from any other
> chatroom not only in technology, but in community as well. No other chat
> room that I've found (other than AW based technology) has the ability to
> have close-knit communities inside of them as AW. Let's face it, we have
an
> entire culture here in AW. Many, in fact.
>
> The reason I am on AW, is that I recognize the immense wealth of
creativity
> to be found here. I also recognize the wonderful community in which we
live
> in. A VR life? There is no such promise with active worlds. And no one
> should ever spend all their time on AW, in my opinion.
>
> Also, back to the problem of arguements. I've been in many chatrooms,
> messageboards, and newsgroups. And I have seen debates so cold, angry, and
> filled with hate that it would make everyone in here seem like little
kids.
> That big gor debate we had a little while back with the cy's... heh, when
I
> looked back and compared it to some of the religious debates I've seen on
> places like the Yahoo Groups... That was childsplay. The bigotry, hatred,
> descrimination in here, is nothing compared to the 'outside world' We are
> very priviledged to be here, and to have such a great community. Even
though
> we don't always agree on things, we for the most part respect that.
>
> Comming to AW was the best move I've made when it comes to chat rooms. It
is
> an awesome technology that gives everyone the ability to express
themselves
> creatively. I am sorry that you aren't seeing it as such.
>
> As for you leaving, if you were just looking at AW as a game, a chat room,
> and as nothing more, then of course it isn't going to interest you :-) but
> if you look beneath the surface, and get into the rich culture, it's
> amazing! Not to mention the history, stories, and lore of AW. Ever just
chat
> with a cit about what all has happened since they have come to AW? I've
only
> been here for two years, and I have quite a good amount of stories.
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Jan 28, 2003, 2:31am
Jeez - talk about putting a negative spin on it!
The reasons for using AW, or rather chatrooms, or rather the Internet, or
rather the home computer, is cheap entertainment - something to occupy one's
time that does not involve the outlay of large amounts of money.
The alternative cheap entertainment is sitting in front of the television.
Personally I prefer output in creativity and two way communication.
Regards, Justin
[View Quote]"chiram seawing" <Seawing at Planet-Safira.com> wrote in message
news:3e35d779 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> my citizenship expires tommorow...
>
> and I'm not sad about it either.
>
> if you think about it, what exactly IS activeworlds?
>
> a chatroom. just a chatroom where you can create your own things. I sort
of
> feel really depressed after looking back at it... after a tough day of
> classes what did I look forward to? talking to other people I don't know
and
> playing with intangible objects. To think that I actually dreamed of
making
> a game on it! I thought a bump ride that bumped you back and forth was
fun,
> and got shivers down my spine while walking down a haunted house that
looked
> like it was carved with a mallet.
>
> what will I say to my children when they ask me what I was like when I was
> their age? "oh, daddy liked to make pretty houses and pretend he liked
> exploring things that could move up and down and make noises too!"
>
> looking back at that period of my life makes me so angry at myself! not
only
> was the program itself extremely limited, but lets take a look at the
> community. on the newsgroup, most of the arguments have to do with
spelling
> and grammatical errors. those that don't are usually jibberish or a plea
for
> attention.
>
> and even worse than that, what the hell was I smoking when I thought of my
> name for gods sake!? was I that intoxicated by the alluring satisfaction
of
> creating my ideal city? was it a comeback for all the 1337H4XX0R names
that
> noone could spell right?!
>
> look at yourselves, people. really, just look atyourself. why are you
using
> AW? do you want to be remembered for spending all your time on a chatroom?
a
> chatroom which promises a virtual life? is there something wrong with your
> own life, that you'd want to spend all your time on something pretending
> you're something that you're not?
>
> for those of you who are sorry that I'm leaving:
> don't be. be very happy that some of us saw the light and decided not to
> waste his/her life.
>
> yours truly
> -William Killoran
>
> PS- I don't mean to have offended anyone nor am I bashing AW... I just
want
> others to see the light as well... oh and if you made it this far I
> congratulate you, didn't think anyone would bother to finish this. have a
> nice day
>
>
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Jan 28, 2003, 3:03am
my citizenship expires tommorow...
and I'm not sad about it either.
expected though, some things go in cycles. Just don't expect everyone to
have the same ones as you do.
if you think about it, what exactly IS activeworlds?
a chatroom. just a chatroom where you can create your own things. I sort of
feel really depressed after looking back at it... after a tough day of
classes what did I look forward to? talking to other people I don't know and
I DID know and to meet people who I would come to know. BUT...I didn't go
there to live. That's the difference.
playing with intangible objects. To think that I actually dreamed of making
a game on it!
forward to- seeing a movie that will last 2 hours and be gone forever? (or
at least until the next sequel) I pay about the same for cable TV in a month
as I do for AW for a year and watch it seldom...but they're both there
(among other things like books, telephone, games, etc etc etc) if I am still
awake at 1 AM or the highway department in my wintry location says to stay
off the streets for my own safety or if I just feel like talking to an old
friend that I don't happen to live near. But not one of them makes up my
life....but they are all enjoyable parts of it. Some more, some less,
sometimes it changes from one week to the next.
I thought a bump ride that bumped you back and forth was fun,
and got shivers down my spine while walking down a haunted house that looked
like it was carved with a mallet.
drawings of a young child.....each is perceived differently by each
individual but we shouldn't be ashamed to enjoy the ones we do. (as long as
they don't adversely affect others of course) We don't really need to touch
everything in order for it to be pleasing. Our eyes and hands CAN work
independently from each other.
what will I say to my children when they ask me what I was like when I was
their age? "oh, daddy liked to make pretty houses and pretend he liked
exploring things that could move up and down and make noises too!"
a little narrow but I always thought it was fascinating hearing members of
previous generations talk about the new technologies and how people used
them.
looking back at that period of my life makes me so angry at myself! not only
was the program itself extremely limited, but lets take a look at the
grandparents have stopped enjoying TV because they hadn't invented cable
yet? Or because they couldn't reach out and touch the characters they were
watching? At least you can interact in some ways with other AWers...some
might be on the other side of the world from you. It's not supposed to be
your life but nothing wrong with some making AW a part of theirs. I have
learned more about people and their everyday lives in AW than I ever would
have learned (so far anyway) without it. I mean one on one..straight from
the source. To me, that is something wonderful in my life...and my life is
in no way AW centered.
community. on the newsgroup, most of the arguments have to do with spelling
and grammatical errors. those that don't are usually jibberish or a plea for
attention. and even worse than that, what the hell was I smoking when I
thought of my
name for gods sake!?
was I that intoxicated by the alluring satisfaction of
creating my ideal city? was it a comeback for all the 1337H4XX0R names that
noone could spell right?!
look at yourselves, people. really, just look atyourself. why are you using
AW? do you want to be remembered for spending all your time on a chatroom? a
chatroom which promises a virtual life? is there something wrong with your
own life, that you'd want to spend all your time on something pretending
you're something that you're not?
away in AW and should all of a sudden see what you see? That would be a sad
day....
for those of you who are sorry that I'm leaving:
don't be. be very happy that some of us saw the light and decided not to
waste his/her life.
yours truly
-William Killoran
PS- I don't mean to have offended anyone nor am I bashing AW... I just want
others to see the light as well... oh and if you made it this far I
congratulate you, didn't think anyone would bother to finish this. have a
nice day
Jan 28, 2003, 3:24am
Well, you obviously weren't living in the same universe I was. Where you
concentrated on building and features in your post, I concentrate on the
friends I have made in AW. Many are lifelong relationships, actually.
It's up to you whether you want to decide whether or not the price is worth
it. I respect that. And you actually did bash the software, even though
you say you don't. I'm sorry that you seem to have taken up the cause to
open our eyes, or whatever, because it's not really a question of that.
It's a question of whether or not we, the huddled masses, deem this software
good enough to spend time on. You can't force people to love or hate a
software. It's an individual choice, and I respect yours.
But let me wish you what most of the other citizens in this uniserver wish.
And that's good luck to you. Drop by now and then (especially swcity.net)
;) . Hope you do well in life!
Cheers!
Chris
[View Quote]"chiram seawing" <Seawing at Planet-Safira.com> wrote in message
news:3e35d779 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> my citizenship expires tommorow...
>
> and I'm not sad about it either.
>
> if you think about it, what exactly IS activeworlds?
>
> a chatroom. just a chatroom where you can create your own things. I sort
of
> feel really depressed after looking back at it... after a tough day of
> classes what did I look forward to? talking to other people I don't know
and
> playing with intangible objects. To think that I actually dreamed of
making
> a game on it! I thought a bump ride that bumped you back and forth was
fun,
> and got shivers down my spine while walking down a haunted house that
looked
> like it was carved with a mallet.
>
> what will I say to my children when they ask me what I was like when I was
> their age? "oh, daddy liked to make pretty houses and pretend he liked
> exploring things that could move up and down and make noises too!"
>
> looking back at that period of my life makes me so angry at myself! not
only
> was the program itself extremely limited, but lets take a look at the
> community. on the newsgroup, most of the arguments have to do with
spelling
> and grammatical errors. those that don't are usually jibberish or a plea
for
> attention.
>
> and even worse than that, what the hell was I smoking when I thought of my
> name for gods sake!? was I that intoxicated by the alluring satisfaction
of
> creating my ideal city? was it a comeback for all the 1337H4XX0R names
that
> noone could spell right?!
>
> look at yourselves, people. really, just look atyourself. why are you
using
> AW? do you want to be remembered for spending all your time on a chatroom?
a
> chatroom which promises a virtual life? is there something wrong with your
> own life, that you'd want to spend all your time on something pretending
> you're something that you're not?
>
> for those of you who are sorry that I'm leaving:
> don't be. be very happy that some of us saw the light and decided not to
> waste his/her life.
>
> yours truly
> -William Killoran
>
> PS- I don't mean to have offended anyone nor am I bashing AW... I just
want
> others to see the light as well... oh and if you made it this far I
> congratulate you, didn't think anyone would bother to finish this. have a
> nice day
>
>
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Jan 28, 2003, 4:42am
DAMMIT I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THIS!!!!!
First of all AW is a home to may... you feel one way and others feel
different. Chiram hope you have a goodlife outside of AW it is not for
you however dont tell us that we are wrong either. Certian things are
better off kept to yourself. That is all I have to say to you.
Another person I would like to comment to is a dear friend of mine and
it URKS me to hear her babble off about not renewing. Lioness, Now it is
fine that you cannot renew HOWEVER it is bothering me about your comment
about "getting something outta AW". I have known you to have other
thoughts about our VR Worlds... why? Why? WHY? I left AW for 2 years and
guess what??... I am back. Addiction of AW is what brought me back here.
My friends are what is going to keep me here. I pay 6.95 a month for
AW... I am 75,000 dollars in debt... less than 2 months I will have a
newborn and if money gets tight I will cancel... but I will NOT leave.
Until people pressure me enough to. AND that will take ALOT to do. I
will leave this post as that. I have other posts in this forum to make
concerning my thoughts and feelings... especially anger. Take care.
*hugs* to you.
neocube
[View Quote]chiram seawing wrote:
> my citizenship expires tommorow...
>
> and I'm not sad about it either.
>
> if you think about it, what exactly IS activeworlds?
>
> a chatroom. just a chatroom where you can create your own things. I sort of
> feel really depressed after looking back at it... after a tough day of
> classes what did I look forward to? talking to other people I don't know and
> playing with intangible objects. To think that I actually dreamed of making
> a game on it! I thought a bump ride that bumped you back and forth was fun,
> and got shivers down my spine while walking down a haunted house that looked
> like it was carved with a mallet.
>
> what will I say to my children when they ask me what I was like when I was
> their age? "oh, daddy liked to make pretty houses and pretend he liked
> exploring things that could move up and down and make noises too!"
>
> looking back at that period of my life makes me so angry at myself! not only
> was the program itself extremely limited, but lets take a look at the
> community. on the newsgroup, most of the arguments have to do with spelling
> and grammatical errors. those that don't are usually jibberish or a plea for
> attention.
>
> and even worse than that, what the hell was I smoking when I thought of my
> name for gods sake!? was I that intoxicated by the alluring satisfaction of
> creating my ideal city? was it a comeback for all the 1337H4XX0R names that
> noone could spell right?!
>
> look at yourselves, people. really, just look atyourself. why are you using
> AW? do you want to be remembered for spending all your time on a chatroom? a
> chatroom which promises a virtual life? is there something wrong with your
> own life, that you'd want to spend all your time on something pretending
> you're something that you're not?
>
> for those of you who are sorry that I'm leaving:
> don't be. be very happy that some of us saw the light and decided not to
> waste his/her life.
>
> yours truly
> -William Killoran
>
> PS- I don't mean to have offended anyone nor am I bashing AW... I just want
> others to see the light as well... oh and if you made it this far I
> congratulate you, didn't think anyone would bother to finish this. have a
> nice day
>
>
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Jan 28, 2003, 5:35am
You might be incapable of balancing a happy social life and a regular bit of
AWing, but I am. I have great fun out with my friends in real life and find
a bit of time later at night when I have no homework to get into AW and do
somthing building or make some objects.
-Robbie
[View Quote]"chiram seawing" <Seawing at Planet-Safira.com> wrote in message
news:3e35d779 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> my citizenship expires tommorow...
>
> and I'm not sad about it either.
>
> if you think about it, what exactly IS activeworlds?
>
> a chatroom. just a chatroom where you can create your own things. I sort
of
> feel really depressed after looking back at it... after a tough day of
> classes what did I look forward to? talking to other people I don't know
and
> playing with intangible objects. To think that I actually dreamed of
making
> a game on it! I thought a bump ride that bumped you back and forth was
fun,
> and got shivers down my spine while walking down a haunted house that
looked
> like it was carved with a mallet.
>
> what will I say to my children when they ask me what I was like when I was
> their age? "oh, daddy liked to make pretty houses and pretend he liked
> exploring things that could move up and down and make noises too!"
>
> looking back at that period of my life makes me so angry at myself! not
only
> was the program itself extremely limited, but lets take a look at the
> community. on the newsgroup, most of the arguments have to do with
spelling
> and grammatical errors. those that don't are usually jibberish or a plea
for
> attention.
>
> and even worse than that, what the hell was I smoking when I thought of my
> name for gods sake!? was I that intoxicated by the alluring satisfaction
of
> creating my ideal city? was it a comeback for all the 1337H4XX0R names
that
> noone could spell right?!
>
> look at yourselves, people. really, just look atyourself. why are you
using
> AW? do you want to be remembered for spending all your time on a chatroom?
a
> chatroom which promises a virtual life? is there something wrong with your
> own life, that you'd want to spend all your time on something pretending
> you're something that you're not?
>
> for those of you who are sorry that I'm leaving:
> don't be. be very happy that some of us saw the light and decided not to
> waste his/her life.
>
> yours truly
> -William Killoran
>
> PS- I don't mean to have offended anyone nor am I bashing AW... I just
want
> others to see the light as well... oh and if you made it this far I
> congratulate you, didn't think anyone would bother to finish this. have a
> nice day
>
>
|
Jan 28, 2003, 8:03am
I guess you have to make your own decisions. As for me, I have no desire for
a bunch of real life friends to chat with. My r/l friends have come and gone
just like they do in AW also I have met and spent hours with some people in
AW I would never have met in r/l, Lightmare (Maria) and Thunderchild (Joe)
in switzerland, Soo in S. Korea, SHE in S. Africa, Gandalf in England,
others in austrailia, hungary, all over the world. Are there others who
have a better, more satisfying "real life" ? Sure, but I'm not one and I
feel uncomfortable in real crowds so I'll stick with AW unless something in
the future changes my mind.
And one could make the same arguments about the computer itself, or TV, or
the telephone, or how about the old timers who spend the same time on Ham
Radios or small groups of friends who play bridge for hours in the living
room, or at the Bingo Parlor, or whatever else you choose to name. Friends
are what you make them I think. I guess r/l friends can hug but not many
do and at least in AW one can't be judged from one's looks or appearance
although some people in AW are judged for things they shouldn't be like
spelling that may have nothing to do with one's education but could be a
result of dsylexia (spelling ? LOL) or other reasons.
I suppose one could devote one's like to being a missionary and helping the
poor in 3rd world countries and look back on life and say " that was much
more worthwhile" but hey, I'm not missionary material. Is AW a waste of
Life ? Maybe, my whole life seems like a waste sometimes but I've made
some models in AW that some people enjoy and what money I make from it helps
me supplement my SSDI income which I would have a hard time getting by on
alone. I guess if one believes the bible about narrow is the road to heaven
and few will find it then most peoples lives are a waste. But I hope in
maybe a few cases I have some how manage to help a few people in AW by
trying to be a friend in time of need.
That's my thoughts.
Paul
[View Quote]"chiram seawing" <Seawing at Planet-Safira.com> wrote in message
news:3e35d779 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> my citizenship expires tommorow...
>
> and I'm not sad about it either.
>
> if you think about it, what exactly IS activeworlds?
>
> a chatroom. just a chatroom where you can create your own things. I sort
of
> feel really depressed after looking back at it... after a tough day of
> classes what did I look forward to? talking to other people I don't know
and
> playing with intangible objects. To think that I actually dreamed of
making
> a game on it! I thought a bump ride that bumped you back and forth was
fun,
> and got shivers down my spine while walking down a haunted house that
looked
> like it was carved with a mallet.
>
<snip>
|
Jan 28, 2003, 12:09pm
emm, ok. c ya i guess
[View Quote]"chiram seawing" <Seawing at Planet-Safira.com> wrote in message
news:3e35d779 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> my citizenship expires tommorow...
>
> and I'm not sad about it either.
>
> if you think about it, what exactly IS activeworlds?
>
> a chatroom. just a chatroom where you can create your own things. I sort
of
> feel really depressed after looking back at it... after a tough day of
> classes what did I look forward to? talking to other people I don't know
and
> playing with intangible objects. To think that I actually dreamed of
making
> a game on it! I thought a bump ride that bumped you back and forth was
fun,
> and got shivers down my spine while walking down a haunted house that
looked
> like it was carved with a mallet.
>
> what will I say to my children when they ask me what I was like when I was
> their age? "oh, daddy liked to make pretty houses and pretend he liked
> exploring things that could move up and down and make noises too!"
>
> looking back at that period of my life makes me so angry at myself! not
only
> was the program itself extremely limited, but lets take a look at the
> community. on the newsgroup, most of the arguments have to do with
spelling
> and grammatical errors. those that don't are usually jibberish or a plea
for
> attention.
>
> and even worse than that, what the hell was I smoking when I thought of my
> name for gods sake!? was I that intoxicated by the alluring satisfaction
of
> creating my ideal city? was it a comeback for all the 1337H4XX0R names
that
> noone could spell right?!
>
> look at yourselves, people. really, just look atyourself. why are you
using
> AW? do you want to be remembered for spending all your time on a chatroom?
a
> chatroom which promises a virtual life? is there something wrong with your
> own life, that you'd want to spend all your time on something pretending
> you're something that you're not?
>
> for those of you who are sorry that I'm leaving:
> don't be. be very happy that some of us saw the light and decided not to
> waste his/her life.
>
> yours truly
> -William Killoran
>
> PS- I don't mean to have offended anyone nor am I bashing AW... I just
want
> others to see the light as well... oh and if you made it this far I
> congratulate you, didn't think anyone would bother to finish this. have a
> nice day
>
>
|
Jan 28, 2003, 4:43pm
lol at the wide variety of emotional responses this thread got.
[View Quote]"neocube" <majmatrixx at excite.com> wrote in message
news:3e36266d at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> DAMMIT I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THIS!!!!!
>
> First of all AW is a home to may... you feel one way and others feel
> different. Chiram hope you have a goodlife outside of AW it is not for
> you however dont tell us that we are wrong either. Certian things are
> better off kept to yourself. That is all I have to say to you.
>
> Another person I would like to comment to is a dear friend of mine and
> it URKS me to hear her babble off about not renewing. Lioness, Now it is
> fine that you cannot renew HOWEVER it is bothering me about your comment
> about "getting something outta AW". I have known you to have other
> thoughts about our VR Worlds... why? Why? WHY? I left AW for 2 years and
> guess what??... I am back. Addiction of AW is what brought me back here.
> My friends are what is going to keep me here. I pay 6.95 a month for
> AW... I am 75,000 dollars in debt... less than 2 months I will have a
> newborn and if money gets tight I will cancel... but I will NOT leave.
> Until people pressure me enough to. AND that will take ALOT to do. I
> will leave this post as that. I have other posts in this forum to make
> concerning my thoughts and feelings... especially anger. Take care.
> *hugs* to you.
>
> neocube
>
>
>
>
>
> chiram seawing wrote:
of
and
making
fun,
looked
was
only
spelling
for
my
satisfaction of
that
using
chatroom? a
your
want
a
>
|
Jan 28, 2003, 6:06pm
Take a valium hon and listen to me carefully and with an open mind. I am not
bashing ANYBODY on any VR sites. Over the years I have made wonderful
friends, some of whom I will consider friends for life. But the majority of
the people I meet are just aquainteces (sp?). With those people, there isn't
much in common and we rarely get to talk about much more than VR building.
Before I had to go back to working Full Time (before I split up with my ex),
I could spend my whole day chatting and building away in VR. To make matters
worse, I would spend precious hours in the evenings online and NOT with my
little girl. I also found myself staying awake night after night until 5am
or later which only allowed me 2 hours of sleep each morning. There were
some mornings I was so exhausted I couldn't even bring myself to take my
child to school. Is THAT a good thing???????!!! I lost about 45 lbs that
year because I was too tired to go food shopping or even make dinner. I
smoked nonstop and went thru a pack and a half each day/night, closed up in
a little room and kept the window open to ventilate, even if it was subzero
temps. I would sit there like an idiot wearing an electric blanket around me
puffing away like a chimney. Now does THAT make sense to you???? Two years
ago when my child and I went out on my own I had to go back to working full
time to support us. I STILL found myself wasting every evening online
instead of with her. She was growing up next to me but I wasn't sharing in
it. Nowadays because she has ADHD and is barely getting thru 6th grade due
to all her incompletes, I have no choice. I have to spend all of my evenings
with her to help her. I don't have ANY time of my own until she and my
husband go to bed for the night. The nights I am lucky to have time/energy
to log onto AW, I get bombarded with questions from people asking me where
I've been, but when I try to explain, most of them start talking to someone
else and don't really seem to care cus they dont' wanna hear someone else's
problems. Most nights I only have time for a 5 minute shower before I pass
out. Hence my husband is now not getting much time with me either. I have to
make a choice. I have to decide who is more important here. The nice people
I meet online and Virtual building???? Or my husband and child???? My
citizenship technically runs out in March. Unless I see that 6 month cit
extension from Beans, I won't be able to afford financially or emotionally
the cost of renewing. I would have a REALLY hard time coming up with a good
excuse to my husband as to why I prefer paying to renew AW over our marriage
and my daughter's time with me. Sure it breaks my heart to only be able to
visit as a tourist and not be able to view my friends builds or build
something of my own. But there is yahoo, AOL, ICQ, and email to keep in
touch with. Not to mention good old fashioned writing of letters and sending
via snail mail. Now then.... NOW do you understand where _I'm_ coming from
and why I'm "babbling" about not renewing?????? ;-"<
[View Quote]"neocube" <majmatrixx at excite.com> wrote in message
news:3e36266d at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> DAMMIT I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THIS!!!!!
>
> First of all AW is a home to may... you feel one way and others feel
> different. Chiram hope you have a goodlife outside of AW it is not for
> you however dont tell us that we are wrong either. Certian things are
> better off kept to yourself. That is all I have to say to you.
>
> Another person I would like to comment to is a dear friend of mine and
> it URKS me to hear her babble off about not renewing. Lioness, Now it is
> fine that you cannot renew HOWEVER it is bothering me about your comment
> about "getting something outta AW". I have known you to have other
> thoughts about our VR Worlds... why? Why? WHY? I left AW for 2 years and
> guess what??... I am back. Addiction of AW is what brought me back here.
> My friends are what is going to keep me here. I pay 6.95 a month for
> AW... I am 75,000 dollars in debt... less than 2 months I will have a
> newborn and if money gets tight I will cancel... but I will NOT leave.
> Until people pressure me enough to. AND that will take ALOT to do. I
> will leave this post as that. I have other posts in this forum to make
> concerning my thoughts and feelings... especially anger. Take care.
> *hugs* to you.
>
> neocube
>
>
>
>
>
> chiram seawing wrote:
of
and
making
fun,
looked
was
only
spelling
for
my
satisfaction of
that
using
chatroom? a
your
want
a
>
|
Jan 28, 2003, 6:40pm
no comment !
[View Quote]lioness. wrote:
> Take a valium hon and listen to me carefully and with an open mind. I am not
> bashing ANYBODY on any VR sites. Over the years I have made wonderful
> friends, some of whom I will consider friends for life. But the majority of
> the people I meet are just aquainteces (sp?). With those people, there isn't
> much in common and we rarely get to talk about much more than VR building.
> Before I had to go back to working Full Time (before I split up with my ex),
> I could spend my whole day chatting and building away in VR. To make matters
> worse, I would spend precious hours in the evenings online and NOT with my
> little girl. I also found myself staying awake night after night until 5am
> or later which only allowed me 2 hours of sleep each morning. There were
> some mornings I was so exhausted I couldn't even bring myself to take my
> child to school. Is THAT a good thing???????!!! I lost about 45 lbs that
> year because I was too tired to go food shopping or even make dinner. I
> smoked nonstop and went thru a pack and a half each day/night, closed up in
> a little room and kept the window open to ventilate, even if it was subzero
> temps. I would sit there like an idiot wearing an electric blanket around me
> puffing away like a chimney. Now does THAT make sense to you???? Two years
> ago when my child and I went out on my own I had to go back to working full
> time to support us. I STILL found myself wasting every evening online
> instead of with her. She was growing up next to me but I wasn't sharing in
> it. Nowadays because she has ADHD and is barely getting thru 6th grade due
> to all her incompletes, I have no choice. I have to spend all of my evenings
> with her to help her. I don't have ANY time of my own until she and my
> husband go to bed for the night. The nights I am lucky to have time/energy
> to log onto AW, I get bombarded with questions from people asking me where
> I've been, but when I try to explain, most of them start talking to someone
> else and don't really seem to care cus they dont' wanna hear someone else's
> problems. Most nights I only have time for a 5 minute shower before I pass
> out. Hence my husband is now not getting much time with me either. I have to
> make a choice. I have to decide who is more important here. The nice people
> I meet online and Virtual building???? Or my husband and child???? My
> citizenship technically runs out in March. Unless I see that 6 month cit
> extension from Beans, I won't be able to afford financially or emotionally
> the cost of renewing. I would have a REALLY hard time coming up with a good
> excuse to my husband as to why I prefer paying to renew AW over our marriage
> and my daughter's time with me. Sure it breaks my heart to only be able to
> visit as a tourist and not be able to view my friends builds or build
> something of my own. But there is yahoo, AOL, ICQ, and email to keep in
> touch with. Not to mention good old fashioned writing of letters and sending
> via snail mail. Now then.... NOW do you understand where _I'm_ coming from
> and why I'm "babbling" about not renewing?????? ;-"<
>
>
>
> "neocube" <majmatrixx at excite.com> wrote in message
> news:3e36266d at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
>
> of
>
>
> and
>
>
> making
>
>
> fun,
>
>
> looked
>
>
> was
>
>
> only
>
>
> spelling
>
>
> for
>
>
> my
>
>
> satisfaction of
>
>
> that
>
>
> using
>
>
> chatroom? a
>
>
> your
>
>
> want
>
>
> a
>
>
>
|
Jan 28, 2003, 10:17pm
Well said paul. For my part, as for most of us I suppose, AW is just a
small part of our lives that gives many of us another outlet for creativity
(cheap compared to many other hobbies). Out where I build in AW, I don't
get many visitors, but I can always go visit ground zero or places I've made
AW friends when I get bored creating things and strike up a conversation
with people from all parts of the earth. Pretty amazing ... AW is a way we
can really reach out (way out) and touch someone.
Tom
[View Quote]"paul" <mpbarrow at NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3e36555a$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I guess you have to make your own decisions. As for me, I have no desire
for
> a bunch of real life friends to chat with. My r/l friends have come and
gone
> just like they do in AW also I have met and spent hours with some people
in
> AW I would never have met in r/l, Lightmare (Maria) and Thunderchild (Joe)
> in switzerland, Soo in S. Korea, SHE in S. Africa, Gandalf in England,
> others in austrailia, hungary, all over the world. Are there others who
> have a better, more satisfying "real life" ? Sure, but I'm not one and
I
> feel uncomfortable in real crowds so I'll stick with AW unless something
in
> the future changes my mind.
>
> And one could make the same arguments about the computer itself, or TV, or
> the telephone, or how about the old timers who spend the same time on Ham
> Radios or small groups of friends who play bridge for hours in the living
> room, or at the Bingo Parlor, or whatever else you choose to name.
Friends
> are what you make them I think. I guess r/l friends can hug but not many
> do and at least in AW one can't be judged from one's looks or appearance
> although some people in AW are judged for things they shouldn't be like
> spelling that may have nothing to do with one's education but could be a
> result of dsylexia (spelling ? LOL) or other reasons.
>
> I suppose one could devote one's like to being a missionary and helping
the
> poor in 3rd world countries and look back on life and say " that was much
> more worthwhile" but hey, I'm not missionary material. Is AW a waste
of
> Life ? Maybe, my whole life seems like a waste sometimes but I've made
> some models in AW that some people enjoy and what money I make from it
helps
> me supplement my SSDI income which I would have a hard time getting by on
> alone. I guess if one believes the bible about narrow is the road to
heaven
> and few will find it then most peoples lives are a waste. But I hope in
> maybe a few cases I have some how manage to help a few people in AW by
> trying to be a friend in time of need.
> That's my thoughts.
> Paul
>
> Mr.T
|
Jan 31, 2003, 7:57pm
If all this is so pathetic, how pathetic is it to be posting your freedom
rant here instead of sitting around with all your new RL friends telling
them?
Do you realize you're being insulting to hundreds of people who find
community, social support and artistic expression here?
don't let the door hit you where the good lord split you....
[View Quote]"chiram seawing" <Seawing at Planet-Safira.com> wrote in message
news:3e35d779 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> my citizenship expires tommorow...
>
> and I'm not sad about it either.
>
> if you think about it, what exactly IS activeworlds?
>
> a chatroom. just a chatroom where you can create your own things. I sort
of
> feel really depressed after looking back at it... after a tough day of
> classes what did I look forward to? talking to other people I don't know
and
> playing with intangible objects. To think that I actually dreamed of
making
> a game on it! I thought a bump ride that bumped you back and forth was
fun,
> and got shivers down my spine while walking down a haunted house that
looked
> like it was carved with a mallet.
>
> what will I say to my children when they ask me what I was like when I was
> their age? "oh, daddy liked to make pretty houses and pretend he liked
> exploring things that could move up and down and make noises too!"
>
> looking back at that period of my life makes me so angry at myself! not
only
> was the program itself extremely limited, but lets take a look at the
> community. on the newsgroup, most of the arguments have to do with
spelling
> and grammatical errors. those that don't are usually jibberish or a plea
for
> attention.
>
> and even worse than that, what the hell was I smoking when I thought of my
> name for gods sake!? was I that intoxicated by the alluring satisfaction
of
> creating my ideal city? was it a comeback for all the 1337H4XX0R names
that
> noone could spell right?!
>
> look at yourselves, people. really, just look atyourself. why are you
using
> AW? do you want to be remembered for spending all your time on a chatroom?
a
> chatroom which promises a virtual life? is there something wrong with your
> own life, that you'd want to spend all your time on something pretending
> you're something that you're not?
>
> for those of you who are sorry that I'm leaving:
> don't be. be very happy that some of us saw the light and decided not to
> waste his/her life.
>
> yours truly
> -William Killoran
>
> PS- I don't mean to have offended anyone nor am I bashing AW... I just
want
> others to see the light as well... oh and if you made it this far I
> congratulate you, didn't think anyone would bother to finish this. have a
> nice day
>
>
|
Jan 31, 2003, 8:27pm
Honey, doesn't sound like you can afford AW even WITH a free citizenship.
Listen to yourself. You are letting your family and life suffer because of
some sense of obligation to digital space and people who can't be there for
you most of the time. Those who can or would are perfectly capable of
installing an IM client and using IM and email to keep in touch with you.
[View Quote]"lioness." <nobody at nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:3e36e2b0 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Take a valium hon and listen to me carefully and with an open mind. I am
not
> bashing ANYBODY on any VR sites. Over the years I have made wonderful
> friends, some of whom I will consider friends for life. But the majority
of
> the people I meet are just aquainteces (sp?). With those people, there
isn't
> much in common and we rarely get to talk about much more than VR building.
> Before I had to go back to working Full Time (before I split up with my
ex),
> I could spend my whole day chatting and building away in VR. To make
matters
> worse, I would spend precious hours in the evenings online and NOT with my
> little girl. I also found myself staying awake night after night until 5am
> or later which only allowed me 2 hours of sleep each morning. There were
> some mornings I was so exhausted I couldn't even bring myself to take my
> child to school. Is THAT a good thing???????!!! I lost about 45 lbs that
> year because I was too tired to go food shopping or even make dinner. I
> smoked nonstop and went thru a pack and a half each day/night, closed up
in
> a little room and kept the window open to ventilate, even if it was
subzero
> temps. I would sit there like an idiot wearing an electric blanket around
me
> puffing away like a chimney. Now does THAT make sense to you???? Two
years
> ago when my child and I went out on my own I had to go back to working
full
> time to support us. I STILL found myself wasting every evening online
> instead of with her. She was growing up next to me but I wasn't sharing in
> it. Nowadays because she has ADHD and is barely getting thru 6th grade due
> to all her incompletes, I have no choice. I have to spend all of my
evenings
> with her to help her. I don't have ANY time of my own until she and my
> husband go to bed for the night. The nights I am lucky to have time/energy
> to log onto AW, I get bombarded with questions from people asking me where
> I've been, but when I try to explain, most of them start talking to
someone
> else and don't really seem to care cus they dont' wanna hear someone
else's
> problems. Most nights I only have time for a 5 minute shower before I pass
> out. Hence my husband is now not getting much time with me either. I have
to
> make a choice. I have to decide who is more important here. The nice
people
> I meet online and Virtual building???? Or my husband and child???? My
> citizenship technically runs out in March. Unless I see that 6 month cit
> extension from Beans, I won't be able to afford financially or emotionally
> the cost of renewing. I would have a REALLY hard time coming up with a
good
> excuse to my husband as to why I prefer paying to renew AW over our
marriage
> and my daughter's time with me. Sure it breaks my heart to only be able to
> visit as a tourist and not be able to view my friends builds or build
> something of my own. But there is yahoo, AOL, ICQ, and email to keep in
> touch with. Not to mention good old fashioned writing of letters and
sending
> via snail mail. Now then.... NOW do you understand where _I'm_ coming from
> and why I'm "babbling" about not renewing?????? ;-"<
>
>
>
> "neocube" <majmatrixx at excite.com> wrote in message
> news:3e36266d at server1.Activeworlds.com...
sort
> of
know
> and
> making
> fun,
> looked
> was
not
> only
> spelling
plea
> for
of
> my
> satisfaction of
> that
> using
> chatroom? a
> your
pretending
to
> want
have
> a
>
>
|
|
