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Sep 15, 2004, 6:34pm

[View Quote] I only speak from theory, I have no experience with TCP packets.

Certainly trying to fit things into a single packet is one way...
probably an antiquated method though.

Sep 16, 2004, 12:36am

[View Quote] > Perhaps via compression?

Certainly one way to overcome this problem. But I think a much better
way would be some sort of master packet per grouping of packets. One
that tells how many packets will be needed, how to put them parse them
back together (obviously that's something that would need to be
implemented on larger scale packets... like an "infinite" cell limit).

All theory though, I have no experience with packets. :) It probably shows.

Sep 11, 2004, 7:49pm

[View Quote] My guess is that it's really a 25 character limit (22 + 3 for
extension). Makes absolutely no sense and was probably just an
arbitrary number. Go with 256, it makes the most logical sense... at
least to me.

Sep 11, 2004, 7:50pm

[View Quote] > Now that brings up the question: Are citizen PPWs and PPs safe from attack
> or are they in same situation as object passwords? Just wondering.

From my understanding, they are. They're not delt with on the same
basis as object passwords (being given to depassword the objects).

Sep 11, 2004, 10:14pm

[View Quote] I suspect that it's 21 characters and not 22 because of the . character.
Unless of course they do some weird parsing and string concatination.
I have no idea what they do, probably something illogical.

Sep 11, 2004, 10:28pm

[View Quote] > J P told me that AWI will be around long enough for our grandchildren to
> use.

Only if they release the source code, and uniserver files and such to
the public when or if they go under.

Sep 13, 2004, 5:13am

[View Quote] Yup, they need to hire programmers to do simple jobs too. I figured
this was mousty's job.. but I really can't figure out what Mousty
did/does. Or if she has any experience, short of Visual Basic 101 that is.

Sep 13, 2004, 5:07pm

[View Quote] Integreating with FTP in bot form? Longer than a few minutes I'm
afraid. Maybe a few weeks, considering a normal work, and the things
that need to be done before that. Surely without integration with FTP,
just reading in the text file and appending information to the end, it
would be easy, and definately not minutes.

I'm going to piss into the wind and hazzard you've done little to no
actual development, especially out of visual basic, where you need to
work out bugs on something that's going to be put into a live, income
related, product. You don't want to bam your way through it, you
definately don't want something that could crash the application either.
Test test test.

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Sep 14, 2004, 1:12am

[View Quote] That is, and will always be, an oxymoron.

> Dare I actually ask if you can do VB and use it to its maximum
> potential Bowen? Do you perhaps have a little experience with it, or
> none at all. I have several years to develop with it and must have
> put over 5,000 hours solid hours in, sometimes 15 to 18 hours at a
> time developing solutions to AW and other problems. Just today I
> wrote a browser application for a CD I produced, neat little thing,
> took a few days to write, day or so to debug, nice little solution.

The problem is you have no real world experience out of your little
"box". VB is not the best way to go, certainly isn't the most secure,
it won't be "good", and it's not logical. Easy? Yes, Fast? For
prototyping. Long term? I'd say no. Portability? No.

I can use it for what I need it for... which is nothing. Anyways, I'd
say that Java and C++ are at a hold for the first and second in the job
market, then VB, then COBOL and the rest of the antiquated langauges
(because there are still servers that haven't been updated).

Just because the CEO says it's good doesn't make it good. I hope you
learn that, I also hope you learn that just because you say it's right
doesn't make it right. Anyways, go ahead and make your little FTP talk
with the server and update registry bot in a few minutes. Also, make it
not depend on Windows, I dare you. If I can compile it with no problem
on linux, and it was developed in a few minutes, maybe I'll take what
"wisdom" you pass off to me. Hell, compile it into a library (.so) and
give it to me so I can see if you know what you're doing.

Sep 14, 2004, 1:18am

> Just because the CEO says it's good doesn't make it good. I hope you
> learn that, I also hope you learn that just because you say it's right
> doesn't make it right. Anyways, go ahead and make your little FTP talk
> with the server and update registry bot in a few minutes. Also, make it
> not depend on Windows, I dare you. If I can compile it with no problem
> on linux, and it was developed in a few minutes, maybe I'll take what
> "wisdom" you pass off to me. Hell, compile it into a library (.so) and
> give it to me so I can see if you know what you're doing.

By the way, this is the method I use to compile .so, in case you do it,
and don't know how to compile them:

$ g++ -fPIC -c libFoo.cpp
$ ld -shared -soname libFoo.so.1 -o libFoo.so.1.0 -lc libFoo.o

yadda yadda..

Andras might have a more better way, though. ;)

Sep 14, 2004, 6:04pm

[View Quote] [View Quote] Nice, I'll work on getting it compiled when I get my linux box up and
running. Took longer than a few minutes I assume? :)

Sep 14, 2004, 6:30pm

[View Quote] [View Quote] To actually code it? Sorry; I meant to program it. :)

Sep 16, 2004, 12:34am

[View Quote] Built into his VB wonder bot.

He likes to massage his own ego, and thus you'll find him including
anything that would do it. Mentioning his bot(s), for example, constantly.

Although I agree with Andras, for a Briton, he slaughters his language
worse... well... compared to a lot of British.

Sep 16, 2004, 5:41pm

[View Quote] What friends? And also, I'm not trying to be part of Andras' possy, or
whatever you want to call it. If Andras includes me at his own free
will, that's great, if not, oh well. I just happen to agree with him on
some key issues.

> I would advise you to 'massage' your own ego by actually doing something
> productive, and not trying to bring down others without ever doing anything
> yourself.

I do plenty productive things, none of which need to benefit anyone
other than myself at the moment. Currently rewriting my bot class for
linux, if you must know.

> I seem to remember the last time I saw you for any length of time was me
> asking that you were not immediatly banned from AWTeen, even after you
> decided everyone deserved to be swore at for almost a week, this shortly
> before you went and joined Andras. Something I no longer think you are
> worth.

Uh? If by "everyone" you mean J0K3R SS, who seems to be stuck up, then
yes, that's everyone. I do actually not care if I am banned from any
which public world. I, again, did not join Andras. I don't think I'm
even worthy of that. Certainly not you.

> I would say to anyone who wishes to act 'greater than thou', make sure you
> actually are first and your using that greater than thou abilities of yours
> to make a positive difference in AW, then you might have some grounds to
> look down to people who just couldent care less.. and don't even try that
> unless you have a reason to.

I never said I was greater than you, nor did I imply it. From what I
remember I never did. You constantly look down on people though,
especially those who dislike your constant "look I made a bot, it can
log into AW GZ, look look!" motions.

> AW has moved beyond a point where people just 'giving their time' can make
> much of a difference, the next generation of AW community is going to need
> to be founded on highly-skilled inviduals and groups who can communicate
> effectivly and are willing to devote some of their time to investigation, to
> check what they think is right, is right, and people without the need to
> resort to blind insults when the chips are down for them.

Well, anyways, I still think you're trying to insinuate that I don't
make bots constantly for everyone's little problems... or something.
And I don't make wacky secret codenamed bots that send me people's
passwords and other information.

I do believe I am a beta tester for Enlight software, but maybe my lack
of skills and unwillingness to devote my time to investigate says
otherwise? See, I can massage my own ego too.

Sep 17, 2004, 1:10am

[View Quote] > Glad to have Bowen back.

He and Joker are the only two that really don't like me. On the scale
of hatred, anyways. Most people are indifferent.

Sep 16, 2004, 6:21pm

[View Quote] > lol. What cave?
>
> Perhaps AWI rented an office space in one of the cave previously occupied by
> Newburyport Cavemen Company who was evicted? ;)
>
> Or is the address, 95 Parker Street, really a cave? ;)

I think he meant that it was an old command that Roland might have put
in that never really worked. Thus the cave analogy. :P If you got
that, sorry.

Sep 28, 2004, 1:31am

[View Quote] > omg roland actually started that? I asked him if it was do-able, and he said
> that the rotate command was already set up in a way that would make adding
> that command very easy. (I asked him to put it in so i could add moons
> rotating around the planets that are currently set up in the world
> "planets")...

You'd just need to add some sort of axis translation to make it work
like orbit in the move command.

Sep 28, 2004, 5:41pm

[View Quote] > you could do that easily inside the rwx if you wanted to...

This would be more of a command catered towards public building worlds.

Sep 28, 2004, 1:16am

[View Quote] > I think you shouldn't use a windows server to host them. Yet because it has
> a virtual desktop.. but whatever floats your boat :)

What? I don't think the terms windows and server should be used together.

Sep 28, 2004, 5:40pm

[View Quote] Great, now all the VB programmers are going to come out and say "Windowz
1s t3h hawt!!1!!one"

Sep 28, 2004, 7:06pm

[View Quote] > Im just sure I got told by someone with a Ph. D about a day ago that VB was
> a good language to develop in for single-project apps.

No, it's only advantage is rapid development. As with all languages,
there are things that can be done faster, bug testing is your friend,
yadda yadda. VB should not be used as a catch all though, just because
a person with a docterate said so.

I would recommend Python before VB. As always, portability comes before
everything else.

Java, C, C++, Python, PASCAL (I think?)

If you know what you're doing, Java is easier than VB. Doesn't let you
get away with shitty coding though.

But if you need to deploy bug-laden programs in a few days worth of
time, VB is the way to go. To the max.

Sep 29, 2004, 1:20am

[View Quote] > Well thats fine by me because the same guy is teaching us Java, C, C++ and
> ASM.

ASM is not portable.

Sep 29, 2004, 4:17pm

[View Quote] Only portable to the extent of the standard; anything else added in may
or may not be portable.

Sep 29, 2004, 5:26pm

[View Quote] Different operating systems, different processors.

Sep 29, 2004, 6:54pm

[View Quote] Java bytecode.

Sep 29, 2004, 7:06pm

[View Quote] > Hmmm good one... but that would need a compiler to interpret it correctly,
> so doesnt exec directly unless you compiled it to an EXE... hence losing the
> compat.

So install an intepreter. The bytecode itself is portable as long as
you have the correct version of the interpreter installed. You can move
it from one machine to the other without having to recompile it, which
is as portable as it gets.

Sep 30, 2004, 12:51am

[View Quote] > And slow...

Python might be another language of choice, then, if speed is a major
concern over extreme portability.

Sep 29, 2004, 1:19am

[View Quote] P.S.: Paragraphs isn't a complete sentence.

Sep 30, 2004, 12:50am

[View Quote] There needs to be some kind of manual entry for them... but that might
not help.

Sep 30, 2004, 4:08am

[View Quote] For the object's coordinates. It seems the browser gets worse at
rounding, which might easily be fixed by a manual entry.

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