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Oct 12, 2003, 7:03am

Id show surprise... apart from im not surprised whatsoever...

- Mark

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Oct 12, 2003, 7:20pm

> In our 12 years of being a Film and Entertainment company,
> we have NEVER had a single loss of file, data, or license. We have spent
> considerable time and effort to protect works.

Strange... and all this time I thought your OP pass had been stolen a
hundred times or so... what was the last one again *opens txt file* ohhh
yeah now I remember *presses alt + f4*

- Mark

Oct 12, 2003, 10:14pm

[View Quote] Oh... ud be suprised at the figures... and theyre nowhere near 90%

> Within worlds that are privately bought and paid for? Are
> you some kind of freak? Or did GOD not create you NUDE at birth?

Daphne nude *Shivers*

> Please do not
> spout off some false doctrines... Torture devices? This is 3D...
"virtual"
> dear... like a cartoon... I have yet to see an avatar tortured.

You havent!? Let me introduce you to the famous Echelon and your Av will be
slung around so much your RL body will hurt :)

> I guess in your
> mind Steven Speilberg actually kills soldiers for his movies?
> At least you have shown your TRUE intentions! You post because you HATE
my
> company because we will help ANYONE to have their fun in VIRTUAL reality.

By defenition, your company is out to make money... The image of helping is
just part of PR... of which ive spent pleanty of time evaluating..

> My
> life experiences have shown me life and death so many times. I am wise
enough to
> respect that people are entitled to their fun in the privacy of their own
> homes! If it makes them smile than that is a GOOD thing! There is
enough pain
> and sorrow in reality...

> Please show me what YOU have done for real life
> society?

Ok... I don't know Daph too well.. if its half of what she does in VR this
statement of yours is voided.


> I myself have done much and continue to do so! I help people... I
> don't attack because of my personal beliefs like you are showing you do...
AW's
> guidelines? Does that include illegal gambling in bingo which you must
pay to
> play? Does that include teaching children that your idol admits to wrong
doing
> and ignoring law and property infringement?

Oh pleaseeee, I dare say that there is something out there than us people
who admire Andras's ability can show him... Most likely something to do with
a better way to steal your op! I count 4 ways at the moment... possibly 5.

> Please..... If a user wants to run
> around in a nude comic book character form let them... if it makes them
smile
> and be happy... I'll make it for them! yes.. that is far better than
seeing a
> head blown into pieces from a shotgun... or wife who cut her husband to
> pieces...

Oh... so youve never seen the events in AWTeen then? hehehe

> So show me how I can further help people to avoid those types of
> pains...

You restart your computers... go into dos and type 'fdisk /mbr' followed by
'format c:' and then you dont reinstall...


> I sure wouldn't force prudery onto them and then hand them the shells
> :) I am still laughing at the AWI guidelines.... those must be as
honorable as
> the FREE citizenship's that came with world purchases which have been
stolen
> away from those worlds...

> or the choice of tourist access which also was
> wrongfully stolen away from those same purchased worlds... Yes...
ethics,
> morals... Please let's get some into this place before it is closed down
for
> illegal acts such as the HATE CRIMEs perpetrated by a certain mob group
> here...!

<Not a threat> do you WANT to see hate crimes?? </Not a threat>

> Let's respect other's privacy... as the US government used to do for
> people in their own homes before the jack boots started to dwindle away
the
> constitution. If you don't like nude avatars daphne.. then stay out of the
> worlds who buy them... they are PRIVATE worlds! What part of word of
private
> confused you? Like the abortion to the CY Awards last year based on fears
and
> mobs... simply put... hold 2 CY's, a daytime G rated and then the majority
R
> rated at night... instead of trying to control private citizens who harm
no
> one... Guess you never thought that perhaps a person in a nude avatar is
trying
> to recreate what they lost by being paralyzed?

I am so laughing at you right now... and its 1:00 so im trying to not wake
anyone up!

> Or some other disability... Not
> your place to judge... not mine either... MY GOD placed me here to
help...

Well MY GOD, ie: ME, 0wnz your object hosting rear (and all your passwords
for that matter). And MY GOD, ie: Me, put me here to a) program b) cause
hell and c) stick up for daphne and other usually annoying people when they
have a good point.

> to
> save life where I can... I have faithfully lived that to fruition... I do
not
> discriminate because of Race, Color, Religion or Personal Choices...
That is
> not my right... I simply HELP people... Hopefully some day you will get
past
> your fears and personal bigitries. I wish you the best.

Oct 12, 2003, 10:15pm

Nah, no explicit material etc applies everywhere.

- Mark

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Oct 12, 2003, 10:17pm

SWE you crack me up!

- Mark

[View Quote] > emm, my 3ds max is fully legal. since i believe the copyright laws dont
> actually affect libya, i have every right to break them ^_^.
> p.s to activeworlds employees: im not in libya, im in, emmm, england! :)
>
> -SWE

Oct 12, 2003, 10:22pm

[View Quote] Yes... burn them, burn them all! (Ie: put the gestures on a floppy disk and
burn them!) I mean who the heck wants prayer gestures... isnt that kinda
being a) lazy b) defeating the point

> How about if
> I told you the true life story of how I made Christ's body bleed in a film
for
> the largest Christian broadcast network in the world?

SWE, get thy 3dSm tooting bottom here and do this would you... hopefully
will give insanity a lil insight onto the shared abilities in AW.
>
Would you bash them too
> simply because it is I and I help people you hate?

The friend of my enemy is my enemy eh?

> HATE is a BAD thing! Nothing disturbs me more than a person who claims
to be
> good but starts off with hatred which is sooo bad.

Im good... im good at causing hell :)

> If I recall, all are born
> naked. I think you better castigate your GOD then for that...

Prove this 'God' of yours exists... for I believe I am thy only God.

> You obviously
> feel you are above him and he wrong in his (her) decision to do that...
Please
> go out and enjoy some flowers blooming... enjoy their beauty... then look
> closely... they are NUDE!!!!

Not quite... the term nude only applies to animals, not plants.

> Nature did not force inhibitions down their
> gullets. Mankind would have been better off had they not either! But
then
> again you might support the burning of babies flesh in Iraq as a just act!

*sigh* Please be notified a certain dictator maimed women and children with
his own troops to show to TV cameras claiming it was the western alies. Fact
proven.

> Even
> though it was all based on lies! Me... I say it is wrong to starve and
kill
> babies... I say its wrong to harm people you don't know, like you have
me...
> simply because of your personal beliefs.

I know you... you never shut up about yourself... please say that means I
can harm you?

- Mark

Oct 12, 2003, 10:32pm

[View Quote] Took me all of 30 seconds to find it... Note: Sam Spade is a very VERY nice
tool... header spoofing, that kinda thing :) And Google is fun too.. Search
for 'h4x0r InSaNiTy'

> Had that not been your intent you would not have
> included they very proprietary link! Nor would you have jumped to
conclusions
> falsely. The site is a .org for one thing.

Did you know... awcommunity.org is owned by Active Worlds Inc... a corprate
company, and though the development of its community it gains profit? Short
of the Gov, Edu and Mil extensions, they mean nothing.

> not a .com for commerce. Secondly you
> accuse users of improper use when in fact there has been absolutely none
> whatsoever. On the phone you told me you were posting an apology. What I
have
> read that you posted was hardly that. NOW, let me tell the users, that YOU
PAUL,
> expect everyone in the real world to know brassp1.jpg is your's and your's
to
> demand used certain ways. That is absurd.

Why? Ive managed to do it before...

> Your file was not even professionally
> prefixed uniquely for any filtering process to determine it was your's.
> Please... do the right thing... admit you over reacted to something that
was
> never a problem! Had you e-mailed the webmaster properly giving filenames
and
> proof of your claim to ownership of copyright... they would have been
removed,
> even though that causes their licensee's hardships... But you failed to
do
> that... you jumped into a "news" group.. not with NEWS... but with an
AGENDA for
> affect...

Your only just realising thats what these newsgroups are for...?

> Please... honesty is a much better way to conduct life... Heartfall
> Productions is a company that helps users 7 days a week, 365 days each
year...
> Your post was wrong to attack our user's private access site. From your
post...
> attacks and noted thefts have now occurred... is that a pleasing event
for
> your Sunday?

Yes, certainally made by day... I give Andras 100 out of 10 for aquiring
your site... I guess it saves having to use POST exploits :O

> It's not for mine or the many users... Not to mention your
> attitude is that users who buy from you are thieves! Our customers have
honor

Ohhh, so thats where all the klingon avatars are from...

> and no desire whatsoever to use what they have not properly paid for. The
site
> clearly states the purpose of the galleries. Perhaps because your friends
here
> wallow in hate and libelous posts... you forget that there are HONEST
users out
> there...
> I wish you the best Paul and i hope that you have learned something from
this...
> I hope that you and others out there learn to properly name files. It
never
> ceases to amaze me how people using a PC forget that computers are made to
> automate tasks... you expect a mind reader to know brassp1.jpg must be
used to
> your specific terms.. you can use, he can't, she can, no, not upside
down...
> geez.. please follow LAW as a guideline.. don't corrupt it and make it as
you
> go.. that only lends for misunderstandings by users... If you "Allow"
someone
> to alter the file they buy from you.. that alteration becomes their new
unique
> copyright! Simply the law! That is why professional artists do not
allow
> alterations, unless the license specifically allows for them to do as they
> wish... not as you discriminate to... Why do virtual users feel they can
ignore
> law and make up their own?

> I wish people would clean up their acts! This hate filled newsgroup
trashing
> only leads to users being hurt and the entire program being placed into
> financial and legal jeopardy. It certainly does NOT promote "COMMUNITY"
for
> which it is titled after.

Oh.. it dosent mean promotion community... if you resolve the true domain
for the news server its actually
news://community.deathmatch.activeworlds.com

> For those who wish for honest service by hosts who care about making their
life
> fun... so they can avoid trash filled places like this and turn for help
where
> they know they can find help... Come see Heartfall and it's many happy
world
> owners.

Or... please ask on the NG... there must be quite a few hosts...

> They can tell you the TRUTHS. We help people so they can EnJoY*
>
> I hope this bashing campaign will end now...
>
> By the way.. for those who love attacking my screen name... InSaNiTy is
chosen
> because it is simply "insane" that we offer so much in 3D for so very
little...

Listen, fool... The bandwidth its taken me to download your posts... you OWE
me about 10x the combined total of your entire OP....

> Always driving to push 3d to new heights for further new enjoyable
experiences.
>
> InSaNiTy
> worldhosting.heartfall.com

Oct 12, 2003, 10:35pm

You have GOT to be kidding... why do you think there are people here with
pitchfolks (and the odd crackpot like SWE tottting a machine gun made in a
'fully legal' version of 3dsm?)

Insanity... a good reputation? Hell for the bandwidth he uses on his
rants... we could host the object path he has on here! Course.. if E N ZO
wasnt a silly bananna and NUKED THE RUDDY NEWSGROUPS, we could show you the
evidence.

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Oct 12, 2003, 10:36pm

9 times? thats a lot of kicks... I know im good at kicking but 9 times per
person? Yikes!

- Mark

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Oct 12, 2003, 10:39pm

Gahhh Jebus, how many posts am I making tonight :S

Hmmm... Business Studies period one... then double ICT working with IIS and
ASP... fun... I need sleep!

- Mark

Oct 12, 2003, 10:46pm

Yes... I most likely did...

[View Quote] > I guess you missed where the came from..
>
> -Joe

Oct 12, 2003, 10:55pm

[View Quote] He does... thats why its so bloody difficult to try and get one over on
him... and why its so easy to do on you.... 50mb and rising..

> As for your theft and public announcement of the direct copyright
infringement...
> Karma... Being able to steal... does not make the theft ok...
> As far as your comment "great stuff indeed" < Very fooish comment...
> All of the images are so greatly reduced their merit as textures for 3D is
nil.
> But you have shown this... You have shown that you lack moral fiber...

Moral fiber... does that stop moral constipation... ? As much as Andras
sometimes bugs me... His moral fible is in sufficent quantities to box it as
cerial.

> and you.. a competitive world host showing no respect to copyright. I
certainly would > have nothing
> to do with a host that openly admits to stealing from the web.

Didnt you understand... he wasnt stealing, cause it had no limits to it....

> Hardly would host my private and purchased goods with an admitted thief.
Now at least > people see where your character is at and what it is.
> So it is true... even from bad things can come good... We are all now
better informed *S*

*S* I hate you Insanity :)

> InSaNiTy
> worldhosting.heartfall.com

Oct 12, 2003, 11:05pm

Looky what I found!


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be dissatisfied with our service in any way you may request a refund within
the first 30 days of service. We reserve the right to deduct PayPal fees
from any refund of services in which PayPal transactions were conducted.
Amounts for Setup Fees, even if waived, will not be refunded unless there is
legitimate cause for dissatisfaction. Pricing issues are not considered
under the dissatisfaction policy. We reserve the right to refuse any refund.
All payments are to be made in U.S. Funds. Money order, Cashier's Check, or
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Monthly payments are due in advance of the month's services. In other words
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WCOL Path Leasing customers must maintain our citizen number as one of their
world's caretakers at all times.

>We all know what happens here dont we...

For customers in Universes other than Active Worlds, a current citizen
account must be provided to Heartfall in addition to the normal Path fees so
we may access your world. Cancellation of service may be requested by
customer at any time. We must have current caretaker access in order to
remove the path and password from your world during cancellation.

>Why bother? I could tell everyone your object path and password right now
if I wanted to... the only thing actually stopping me is loyalty to some of
the content-providers on it. And yer know why these people have my loyalty?
Cause theyre good, decent people who care for the community, not for making
$$$. Unlike you. Cause theyre theyre when you need em... Lady M, Robbie etc
etc etc... Now theyre true AW community.

Only cancellations made within the first 30 days of activation will receive
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Folders order will be deleted upon cancellation of service. We only return
avatars with a paid avatar return fee to compensate for time. Please keep
copies of all avatars sent to us to avoid this fee.

Heartfall will not host Worlds containing X-rated material or links.

> You state yourself you host X rated avatars for the physically dissabled..
ha ha ha.

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Heartfall reserves the right to hold worlds "closed" at anytime payment is
past due 10 days.

> Are you aware that if you close worlds, and do not relinquish control, you
can be sued... either that or someone sends a nice message to your server
telling it to dissconect...

Upon 30 days of being past due, world will be considered forfeited for non
payment and become the property of Heartfall Production

> Ohhh sorry, such action is directly against AWI guidelines on
none-transferable property... Your comments here give AWI full and
unresticted righty to kick you from the software if they so wish.

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Oct 13, 2003, 4:24pm

[View Quote] Dont start what you cant stop....

> The FACTUAL information is this. Our user texture galleries are PRIVATE.
There is
> clear notice that it is illegal for anyone to enter that ASP server
without
> permission.

Actually... only with password protection on... but a SQL injection would
render that useless...

> It is not a web html server but a private program system. Our world
> owners clearly know what they have purchased and what they have not. This
is a
> courtesy to the world owners of the licensed items and their builders
designed to
> aide them in their use of the AW software. These people have purchased the
rights to
> use the items and textures in their worlds. I am quite sickened by the
panic and
> attacks I have received.

Sickening? Ohhh, please die!

> No one has ever used one of your models on our systems
> illegally ever! You and others know well that AW provides your textures in
> everyone's cache! We do not offer out the images. We offer a gallery so
that users
> can observe names and therefore use the AW software the way it is meant!
WE HELP
> USERS! WE DO NOT HURT ANYONE!
>
> I am sick of the jealousy and HATE! "RENTED PATH" is such a FALSE
header. Please

As I said... im waiting...

> pull your head out of the sand! 99.9% of users "RENT" their path space!
In FACT...
> 100% of users are on "RENTED" services from their ISP's! Even the ISP's
"Rent" the
> bandwidth throughput from backbone providers.
http://worldhosting.heartfall.com set
> up the system years ago to allow users a chance to enjoy owning a world
without the
> hassles of learning to be a computer geek!
> We do this so that people can have
> FUN!!! Not to be wrongfully attacked by people running amuck in panic and
fear due
> to their own ignorance of facts! Users pay less than 7 pennies per day to
have
> access to our huge and original path systems!

Far too much if you ask me :)

> ALL private models have been
> protected for users and we have NEVER had a single loss of data! Our
galleries are a
> "PRIVATE" program server

No... its a HTTP server... I just asked it for some info and it gladly
obliged...

> provided solely to our world owners who have lawfully
> purchased the license to use the AW software and the models in their
lawful
> possession. I will no tolerate abuses against them! Realize that by your
entering
> the site you are deliberately and knowingly violating the law by entering
a system
> clearly posted as private and ordering you to exit! The system logs every
single
> hit to it.

Ha ha ha...

> Your ISP is required by law to provide your personal information to us
> should we request such.

Mine ain't!

> As with the lawsuits filed by and on behalf of music
> companies against users of KAZAA, we may perhaps file lawsuits upon anyone
entering
> our ASP server unlawfully and using that illegal entry to harass our
company and/or
> our customers.

Now your just inviting someone to take down your server...

> We PROTECT the rights of our lawful users to the best of our
> abilities!

Ha... haha... Im no security expert... but I could most likely beat your
security system and create a better on in minutes.

> Their license purchases give them the rights to use their items as they
> wish within their worlds!
>
> Until you and other people make demands on AW to stop placing your images
in open
> cache, all images will be made available to aide the builders in their
lawfully
> creative ways. I say this because for us to be forced to harm our user
base would
> be discriminating and punishing them alone while you do knowingly allow
all to
> receive copies of all images into cache! I do not see the artists
complaining to
> the software company, AW

No... cause pretty much everyone appart from you dosent have a problem with
it... there are far easier ways to steal object paths... (Im digging a grave
for myself here, aint I Bill?)

> , for allowing a cache image gallery on every computer!
> Therefore you best cease harassing our company! We are doing nothing
wrong,
> unethical, illegal, or infringing upon copyright laws whatsoever!

Your company terms say that you will take possesion of a world... thats I L
L E G A L

> We are simply
> aiding our lawful users their right to have access to the filenames they
paid for!
>
> NOW if people wish to start making claims then let me suggest a bit of
intellectual
> advice to the novices who feel they can create their own laws. 1. Become a
> professional. 2. Learn how to uniquely prefix filenames so that computers
can
> filter. Too many ignorant people believing computers should be hand picked
through.
> They are "computers" they compute... they are automated systems. People
are being
> so "unrealistic" in their expectations its become absurd. 3. File by law a
copyright
> form and send each original image to the library of congress as required
by law
> prior to any publishing!

Nope... your mistaken, no documentation is required.

> Wake up and realize that posting to the web is an act of
> "publication" 4. Seek legal advice and education about the law. Do not
try and make
> it up as you go. 5. Do not threaten unless you have legal grounds or you
may find
> your home and assets at risk quickly!

Hows that gonna work... the FBI will come arrest all the h4x0rs you know,
leaving say... all the proper ones to take you out?

> If you demand that we remove the images you
> best have used due diligence to demand that the software company not allow
the "art"
> gallery on every copy of their browser. When you create works KNOWING
that your
> images are for "USE" within worlds, do not cry when they are being
displayed to
> facilitate that "USE"
>
> NOW, if you can show me how any law is being violated

Reffer to part about none transferable licences...

> by our showing our users the
> images that they paid to use so that they can lawfully use them. AND, you
can
> provide lawful proof that you have legally created the images using fully
licensed
> systems and software. AND, you can provide proof that the copyrights are
indeed
> actually your's and not a compilation of work or alteration of someone
else's
> work(s), THEN we will consider honoring your request which ultimately
will harm the
> users who have paid you to use them.
>
> The WCOL Textures galleries are there for lawful users. We are not the
first to have
> galleries to facilitate our users. We will not be the last. We are not
offering the
> images to anyone!. We have spent considerable time and money to insure
that ALL
> property is protected. We have used our "BEST EFFORTS" to protect ALL
artists works.
>
> WE ask that you not be narrow minded in you thought process and that you
NOT follow
> the campaign of HATE and Discrimination so clearly set forth by the mob of
a few!
>
> You will find that you will NOT be able to show any evidence whatsoever
that even
> one single image has ever been wrongfully used. Unless deliberately done
now, after
> the fact, in an attempt to harm our company or our users.
>
> Please people... AW is dying a fast death because of all the bickering and
hateful
> acts put forth by the user base populating and publishing their hate in
these
> newsgroups and amongst the software universe.

Strange, I thought the user count was going up!

> Heartfall Productions has worked hard
> for many years to make building easier for users. Many of whom have died
of cancer,
> but enjoyed our easy access to world ownership and building for their
enjoyment in
> their last days! We are here to help! We are here for 365 day immediate
support! We
> are here so that people can EnJoY* during a day an age when suffering is
so great in
> the world.
>
> I ask that the people of this virtual place think... learn... and educate
their
> minds and open their hearts!

Hearts? Why the hell do we need to open our hearts, we use our eyes and
engage our brains... then rip you to pieces.

> I ask that they stop following mob rule... that they
> think before they attack, or condemn out of ignorance and fear! You will
not be
> hurting me... you are simply hurting the users, grandmothers, handicap
persons,
> children, foreign country citizens, everyone of all walks of life...

I am really REALLY considering having someone investigate your business
practices by paying on the 'need for support for dissabled'

> who came here
> and paid their license fees to EnJoY. They do not deserve the abuses...
They
> deserve what they pay for!
>
> If you have a gripe... complain to Bill Gates for making temp folders on
the
> software.

> For the immediate pop up "save as" icons over images. Complain to AW for
> their ART cache. Complain to people like Andras who wrote in these news
groups how
> to convert RAS to JPG.

Erm... twit... AW dosent use any MFC! Its all the programmers work, the only
thing MS about it is the IDE.

> If you LOOK and EDUCATE your minds and read.. you will see
> historical record where I have fought against people posting how to steal.
I was a
> special guest speaker at the CY Awards a few years back.. my topic..
"Copyrights" on
> the internet. How to protect your work and what you are NOT allowed to do.
Yet most
> of you steal an image, redo it and claim it is yours anyway.
>
> I am not your enemy! I am a person who gives 100% of myself to others
and have all
> my life! I have worked hard to make AW a better place... fighting a
loosing battle
> too! Because of the few who lurk here in the newsgroups and around in
worlds...
> bashing and attacking and teaching people how to steal! I educate all
our users on
> how to be SAFE. How to PROTECT their property. How to have FUN and AVOID
the Bad
> People here that deliberately lurk to harm users. Every single world owner
we
> service can tell you that I have spent time with each, personally, giving
them tips
> on how to safely manage their worlds. I have spent considerable hours and
days,
> months with programmers like Roland seeking fixes to cure theft issues
like the
> open cache! I encouraged him to re-do the seqs methods so that they could
be better
> designed and protected. The designs abilities to seqs and re-writes are
here now..
> sadly I was informed that the cache protection was not authorized by the
> leadership. So ASK AW to protect your work! It is their software that
allows the
> cache thefts!
>
> NOW, That being said... IF designers wish us to block their "PROVEN"
copyrighted
> materials... and BLOCK their buyer's & respective builder's access to
seeing the
> image names... THEN, those designers MUST use unique prefixed filenames
and submit
> in writing, via U.S. Mail, a list along with a signed affidavit swearing
to the fact
> that they are the sole owner of legal copyright. Upon receipt of that
signed
> affidavit, we gladly remove any images they have claim to from the
galleries and
> place notice on the gallery site that all images from that designer are
not
> available at the designers demand, regardless of the impact that has to
the
> licensees' and their builders. That will allow ALL parties to be aware of
the
> reasons why their access has changed. That will also allow buyers to
beware of whom
> will cause their world building creative experiences to be restricted
and/or
> diminished. Personally I believe that is a mistake. I do not believe that
buyers
> would want to purchase from designers who try and RULE how they operate
their
> PRIVATELY owned, bought and paid for worlds. Heartfall hosts more than
$30,000.00 of
> privately owned licensed AW materials. We have proudly done so without a
single loss
> of that data for many years. Why designers are in a panic now based on a
false
> posting... and wish to harm their buying public is beyond me... Perhaps
it is all
> out of fear and rage created by a few mob leaders.. wishing to harm..
rather than
> awaken to logic and reason.
>
> ALL Affidavits must be mailed via U.S. Mail, signed and notarized. We
require
> mailing via the U.S. Postal service for the protection and laws provided
for under
> "mail fraud" guidelines. We hope that this will limited any such requests
to only
> legitimate claims and therefore reduce the risks to our users from being
wrongfully
> discriminated against. Discrimination is a very serious offense and act
which
> violates the individual freedoms or persons. We will use our best efforts
to fight
> discriminations of any kind which can harm any person. This is all meant
to aide the
> protection of actual copyright owners as well as the legal licensee's
rights.
>
> Any designer who wishes to have further discussion in this matter is
welcome to
> phone us directly. If they have limited financial resources and reside in
the United
> States they may contact us and provide a phone number to reach them at. I
will
> gladly phone them personally at my expense to help them better understand
the
> logistics, laws and reasons we provide such thorough care and protection
as best we
> can. Our contact information is clearly available, published on our web
site at
> http://www.heartfall.com
>
> I would also like to WARN buyers to beware of purchasing from any web site
that does
> not clearly offer you adequate forms of contact such as: A:) mailing
address B:)
> phone numbers to contact the company you are about to do business with.
Specially if
> you are purchasing using a credit card. This is internet commerce
safety -101. ALSO
> beware of purchasing on the Internet, any produce that does not clearly
state it's
> license of use and fails to list it's sales and return policies. Protect
yourself!
> Be a wise and informed consumer. Demand professionalism in return for your
monies!
> ALL legit business will gladly provide you with this information in an
easy to
> locate page.
>
> Let's try and make this virtual environment a better place for all! Let's
band
> together and rid ourselves of the HATE mongers, bigots, racists and cyber
terrorists
> that lurk around here! Let's show support to those working hard to
protect user!
> Let's NOT follow behind the mob of narrow minded hate!
>
> I wish you all well... I sincerely hope that this has enlightened the
readers and
> done some good for the betterment of all.
>
> Peace, health & healing....
>
> Lars Wyka aka InSaNiTy
> http://worldhosting.heartfall.com
>

Oct 13, 2003, 4:27pm

E N ZO likes it...? heh

- Mark

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Oct 13, 2003, 4:44pm

Did you know... Europe has the 2nd highest standards in the world... second
only to Japan which takes things way way way over the top.

- Mark

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Oct 15, 2003, 3:19pm

InSaNiTy... first up... do you actually think E N Z O cares? heh, Id give it
50:50 depending on how long it takes to delete posts.. secondly, your PR is
crap if you cant handle this.

- Mark

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Oct 16, 2003, 5:46pm

Would this have anything to do with a overly-formal spam telegram to go help
his cause on some website forum or another?

- Mark R

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Oct 17, 2003, 4:02pm

Not really... but thats the only way TZ seems to speak recently...

- Mark

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Oct 18, 2003, 8:50pm

Certainally a bit of a probelm you are now in...

Good old American justice *raises eyebrow* anyway... Yeah you really do seem
to be in a pickle...

I agree with the posts there, you really do need to be a lot more careful
mate... Persons who will do anything for anyone, are usually the easiest to
manipulate.

I think the problem your going to have is people are going to be thinking
that noone is really as helpful as you have stated you are, which is kind of
true, people like that are few and far between...

The benefit you do have however, is that there is no apparent actual
evidence towards your intentions towards her... the benefit of distance also
works on your side, with a lack of local knowledge it is in your benefit
that you would not have known....

Also, "he's a nice guy and I'm not so either answer his questions or you'll
have to deal with me" constitutes a threat of oppression, which breaks some
kinda rule about relations under detainment and questioning... I can't
remember exactly which.

Anyway, good luck to you... If E N Z O hadent deleted the newsgroups your
posts alone would have been enough to prove beyond reasonable doubt your a
help-a-holic.

- Mark
"technozeus" <TechnoZeus at usa.net> wrote
<Snip>

Oct 22, 2003, 7:22pm

Possibly... But at this point I have to agree... the only thing he is doing
in here is putting himself out.. I dare say if we could all be character
witnesses, we would... but we can't unless they accept EMail's...

But we all feel sorry for the prediciment he is in... but honestly... we
know about it, we have made our comments, offered our advice... I honestly
cant see how we can help futher..

- Mark


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Oct 31, 2003, 1:08am

I... I can't believe you all...




























Snippus thy posties!

- Mark

Oct 24, 2003, 10:49pm

Oct 25, 2003, 8:25am

GMT?

- Mark
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Oct 29, 2003, 10:15pm

Christ if that much info was available on people under trial in the UK
someone would take it offline in seconds.

- Mark

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Oct 30, 2003, 3:37pm

I was under the impression the jist of these theads were it was shite?

- Mark

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Nov 2, 2003, 3:23pm

Or... could be world attributes...

- Mark

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Nov 2, 2003, 4:54pm

ohhhhh I like it!

SHAMUS, ADD THIS FEATURE NOW!!!

- Mark

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Nov 5, 2003, 7:27pm

E N Z O if your answering the NG's for a bit... Can I run AWI for a bit? :)

- Mark

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Nov 6, 2003, 6:33pm

Cyclic aw_cell_next running on the local connection... shouldent take *too*
long... ud need to defrag your HD's afterwards like...

- Mark

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