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Jul 25, 2001, 2:43am

Yes, everyone knows you're a hypocrite, Facter. Wee...yay you.

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Jul 25, 2001, 2:48am

[View Quote] > Eep, table abuse is the only way to get it to look right and be modular at the same time. At one point the layout for my website
> featured 150 different table cells, almost every one of them containing a graphic (Was a BITCH for dialup, hence why I lost it)
> Sure, the tables can be a problem with Netscape since not all (any?) versions support invisible table borders, but it looks
> professional to 99% of the PC population (Mindless M$-tards)

A page that abuses tables is one that takes forever to load in Netscape. I use Netscape so I can tell when a page abuses tables. <shrug>

> About modularity and why it's neccessary... Would you rather A) Edit ALL your pages for a link, particulrly if it's graphical and
> the site is graphics intensive or B) Delete the old link on the include and install the new one

Uh, when did we start talking about modularity? I never mentioned anything against it.

> I wouldn't go throwing your website out as an example of a fine HTML, though it takes seconds to load on dialup, it simply DOESN'T
> sell (Which is not your goal by the way. The main purpose of my website is to sell my skills to an employer, the main purpose of
> Fac's site is to sell AW.)

Uh, my site "sells" just fine, thank you. My RW site averages ~20 hits/day (at least on the intro page anyway), which isn't bad for a fairly obscure 3D scripting language for a hole-in-the-wall program like AW...

Jul 25, 2001, 5:59am

Hardly, sport; people go there to learn about RWX.

Learn how to quote only what you're replying to, newbie.

[View Quote] > 20 hits? yeah they go there and laugh then leave
>
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Jul 25, 2001, 5:59am

You obviously failed to read what I wrote more carefully. I suggest you do so before replying again.

[View Quote] > Constantly harassing Facter will only result in him getting sick of the
> abuse and not reading the newsgroups. Then AWCI will have no one reading
> the newsgroups. Do you want that, to go completely ignored? At least with
> Facter reading the newsgroups we have someone to talk with Rick and JP about
> what we say. Remember, Facter isn't the one you should be mad at, it's Rick
> and JP.
>
> Lay off Facter.
>
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Jul 24, 2001, 3:52am

How did you "deduce" the location of it? Got a list of them somewhere? Man that COB-to-RWX converter really junks up the model. HamFon needs to learn a LOT more about RWX and how to code it more efficiently...

[View Quote] > I "deduced" the location of an avatar on the AWBuild object path... put it into modeler with all of it's textures and voila! http://hairsquare.virtualave.net/images/andrew3.jpg
>
> This looks a little more detailed than the avatars currently in use in AW... Looks pretty cool, if you ask me :)

Jul 24, 2001, 11:05am

I don't code, but I have talked to HamFon about it but he's stubborn since it's how HE likes it and, of course, EVERYONE likes what HE likes! <roll eyes> Damn narrow-minded programmers...

[View Quote] > Do us all a favour (me included, cos I use cobdump) and make us a better
> program yourself... :)
>
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Jul 25, 2001, 2:49am

Shyea, if you like drug-induced mindfucks and having a headache all the time, sure...

[View Quote] > He's talking about his world, Pollen.
> It's a nifty world, go check it out.
>
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Jul 25, 2001, 5:51pm

Um, I have ONE milkjug (not a bottle, you uncultured bafoon). I model realistically; you model...well, wackily. <shrug>

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Jul 25, 2001, 10:41pm

Well you won't find hardly any objects in Cubed and Hole (and of those you do I've usually MUCH improved). Mauz and I made most of the other objects...

[View Quote] > atlease he doesn't rely on the shamefull crutch that are alpha world objects
> in his world. There's nothing I respect more than a world with zero aw
> objects. Even if it is a wierd trippy place I don't like. I don't like
> it.. but I can respect it far more than any place with alpha world yuck. If
> I see a 2d wall edge or pp16... I usualy just leave the world in disgust.

Jul 25, 2001, 10:43pm

<shrug> I wasn't. YOU need to start taking things more seriously and get out of the little box you live in.

[View Quote] > realistically; you model...well, wackily. <shrug>
>
> You need to lighten up, I was joking around.
>
> the time, sure...
> people

Jul 26, 2001, 6:44am

<chuckle> This from a twit who can't even spell/type correctly. Drive through, lamer.

[View Quote] > epp for fuk sakes do us all a favour and stop with the insults on the NG. it
> doesnt make anyone think ull cool or shit,justs makes everyone relise how
> immature someone ur age can be! so if u dont have something which doesnt
> insult everyperson who ever used the NG to say,then just sit down and shut
> up!
>
> SWE [ no hard feelings :) ]
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Jul 26, 2001, 6:47am

<shrug> Not my fault some people are weak. :) Ever heard the expression "laughter is the best medicine"? Think about it: if you need to make jokes about things a lot you might be sick in the head a bit (humor has been known to alleviate pain)...

[View Quote] > Eep, not all of us are as.. Grounded as you. Most of us have a sense of humor even under the most serious circumstances.
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Jul 27, 2001, 4:20am

Oh I can take and make jokes fine--just at the appropriate time. Facter was simply using the "joking around" as an excuse because he no longer had (and has) a viable argument (rebuttal). <chuckle> See? I made a funny...

[View Quote] > Okay, so we're all fucked up and you passed every mental health examination on the planet. I can live with that. It must seriously
> suck being incapable of taking, or making a joke.
>
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Jul 27, 2001, 4:23am

<chuckle> I try to build a cool world and swear a lot in the newsgroups because everyone in AW thinks I'm the biggest bitch (er, I'm not female, by the way) of all times? <blink> I don't see the logic there... I continue being who I am because I have a high enough self-esteem, and feel passionately enough about what I'm doing, that I CAN continue to act with conviction in the face of seemingly overwhelming opposition. <shrug>

[View Quote] > well i dont bother to check my spelling before i write something! so just do
> nearly everyone a favour and get the fuck away from aw!get the fuck away
> from any thing to do with aw and the net for that matter! tell me how does
> it feel to know that everyone in AW thinks ur the biggest bitch of all
> times? bet thats why u try to build a cool world and swear alot on the NG.
> and the fact that the only cool thing bout ur world is the sound and
> shadow(whichs isnt so great) u must be a very depresed person! so go fuck ur
> self.
>
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Jul 27, 2001, 4:30am

[View Quote] > omg with a name like mine I can't possibly ignore this post. Eep, I have
> enjoyed my visits to Hole and Cubed and very much admire the work you have
> done there. But you are definitely on the wrong track on this one.
> Weakness is more an attribute of someone who can't tolerate the differences,
> imperfections, and idiosyncracies of other people; of someone who can't play
> well with others. Humor, along with a few other things, is a nice little
> perk that makes the world go round and helps us get through times of major
> suckage. An exhibitor of humor during times of difficulty shows great
> strength. You don't have to participate, however please don't call those
> that do weak.

The whole REASON for humor is to alleviate an imbalance (usually one of uncomfortableness or pain); it's a defense mechanism. It sure as hell doesn't make the world go around--gravity does that. Wee, I made another funny.

> and oh...btw....drive back home and take a look....you have 2
> (two) milk jugs on your table...one labeled full and one labeled empty :

Uh, it's the same jug--just empty; if it was a different STYLE of milkjug then his comment would be more appropriate, but it's the same design. <shrug>

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Jul 27, 2001, 4:32am

I'm good in many things; you just see the AW part. Perhaps a trip to my website (http://tnlc.com/eep/) might open your eyes a bit more to my abilities. <shrug> At any rate, you're now filtered so don't expect a response from me in the future.

[View Quote] > I mean arent good in anything,so u try to become a good builder in aw
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Jul 27, 2001, 9:17am

ANYTHING can be humorous. However, if one feels the need to make something funny out of EVERYTHING, that person either needs attention and/or is using humor as a defense mechanism for pain (emotional, physical, etc).

[View Quote] > Well, I don't agree on your very limited definition for the reason of humor.
> Humor is also for pure entertainment, it makes money (see Hollywood run).
> You can find humor in your sound effects and actions in Hole and in many
> other places in AW simply as entertainment. Humor can be used as a defense,
> but that's certainly not all inclusive. It can be a choice on how someone
> wishes to view life because it's more enjoyable than the alternative period.
> I'm glad we are not all clones though. That would make for a pretty boring
> existence.

Jul 31, 2001, 3:25am

And yet again you respond with such wit and intellectual reparte, perfectly illustrating (and proving) my point. Thank you. Drive through. You're now filtered.

[View Quote] > "laughter is the best medicine"? Think about it: if you need to make jokes
> about things a lot you might be sick in the head a bit (humor has been known
> to alleviate pain)...
>
> You think I am weak because I have a really good sense of humour?
>
> Interesting theory ! hahahaha
>
> =)
>
> humor even under the most serious circumstances.
> get out of the little box you live in.
> model

Jul 30, 2001, 7:03pm

Uh, what kind of company runs a 24/7 program but doesn't even have 24/7 tech support? That's just stupid...

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Jul 31, 2001, 9:26pm

And the source of this is...? Regardless, while Rick may not have been greedy initially, he and his butt buddy JP sure as fuck are now!

[View Quote] > "Since beginning my work as consultant to Worlds Inc. COF was funded on
> credit cards and overdrafts. COF made just enough money to allow us to
> operate out of my parent's garage and keep our server up. Shamus worked for
> extremely minimal pay and his fiancé sold off savings bonds to finance his
> groceries. Ellen and I were never paid a dime.
> I had several side jobs to support the little shop we had going and we
> worked around the clock to make sure it stayed alive. Worlds was never able
> to pay us and instead we rolled the money they owed into an initial purchase
> bid when they went
> under. With the small amount we had in savings and credit cards we struggled
> to keep our end alive. When the owner of the world Atlantis, JP, came on
> board, he also put in his own money and never received payment. Several
> times we were running to the bank to make another transfer from savings or
> checking into the company account so that the checks we had sent out
> wouldn't bounce.
>
> We didn't do this with the knowledge that the coming years would bring
> about the dotcom revolution or that we would ever get any investment at all.
> We didn't do it to be rich.
>
> We did it because we loved AW and wanted to keep it alive."
>
> That needed to be said a very long time ago.

Aug 1, 2001, 12:19am

Right then, you just made it up. Drive the fuck through, twit. Next time back it up with proof, putzfuck.

[View Quote] > SMILE
> E N Z O
> LOVES
> Y O U
>
> xxx ooo
>
> :D
>
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Aug 1, 2001, 9:08pm

Yea, I especially dig the "10 years fulltime (if 60 hour weeks and no weekends count as fulltime)" part. Boo fuckin' hoo, Rick. What the HELL do you (and your sleazeball buttbuddy JPeePee) need $160K/year for? What the FUCK do you do to earn it? Roland should be the one getting that kind of money, NOT you--he does FAR more work to keep AW alive and going than you do or even have...EVER! What would you do if he went on strike, hmm? Who would be able to get up to speed quick enough before AW died out? You'd be strapped by your piddly little balls is what YOU'D be, punk. So you better start listening to him and stop treating him like shit or you WILL see AW go under--don't EVER fucking doubt that...EVER!

[View Quote] > Bleh, we all know that this is just a guilt trick to make us feel sad for
> bashing enzo and the rest of the AW management because they ignore their
> home customers in favor of the corporate customers who have more money, yeah
> so I guess since I'm only paying for E N Z O to sleep in his chair all day
> I'm no much better than an ant to them or something...

Aug 2, 2001, 1:19am

From AWC's SEC filings.

[View Quote] > $160,000 a year personal pay? Thats $13,333.33 a month, $3333.33 a week. Subtract $200 for food (Assuming they're into the health
> food stuff or have 5 kids) weekly, $3000 montly for a new Dell computer that could easily be built for $1000, that leaves about....
> $113600. Pay the bills, build a house, a few new cars (A humvee and a corvette would do) and you're flat broke. Thats hard livin
> Eep.
>
> Just wondering, where'd the 160k figure come from?
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Aug 11, 2001, 9:14pm

Rick is just going to have to learn to deal with the negativity and criticism if he expects to deal with the AW community. Life ain't all peaches and cream...

[View Quote] > Good lord, kA! What crawled up your preverbial rear and died? This is
> the exact reason why ENZO has been avoiding posting in these NGs in the
> first place, because he believed he would be attacked no matter what he
> said. Let's not start proving him right, ok? I'd like to think we're all
> better than that...
>
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Aug 12, 2001, 12:01am

Yes, that's the idea. It's precisely BECAUSE of his (and AWC's in general) lack of community involvement and interaction that rumors start and spread. Anyone with half a brain should know this...

[View Quote] > ...and (hopefully) after he starts interacting more, people will maybe
> change opinions according to his actions rather than rumors...
>
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Aug 12, 2001, 8:08am

[View Quote] > So give him a chance alright already... at least he posted a few times and
> he really shared info in his posts. I for one am pleased. I'd think you'd be
> very happy that they are seeming to really pay attention to getting the
> software rendering and versions all in same browser and looking at not
> screwing up with backwards compatibility again. Once they get that done I'm
> hoping that many of the features we'd like to see will come true! *fingers
> crossed* But I agree 100% that what they are doing at the moment is the best
> for the future. We really need to get past 2.x versions don't ya think?

Uh, so get a measly 3D card already and you won't HAVE to deal with the obsolete 2.x versions anymore! There's NO excuse for NOT having a 3D card these days...NONE!

> I can't disagree that it would have been better had he posted a loooooong
> time ago. Hopefully rumors are now getting cleared up and lets go forward
> ok? Pwease? ;-)

Uh, I don't see Rick (and other AWCers) posting more...until then the rumors will continue to develop...

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Aug 12, 2001, 10:52am

<chuckle> That's what you get for trying to play with AW at work! Now go do REAL work and stop dorking around with AW.

[View Quote] > So you still do not understand that having a 3d card
> and having DX7 are two pairs of shoes?
>
> I will not start a discussion wether downgrading from NT4
> to any other M$ operating system would be a solution or not,
> because it is fact that it isn't a solution in professional
> IT business.
>
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Aug 12, 2001, 8:08pm

Think logically: AW isn't for corporations but for end-user consumers.

[View Quote] > I do work and AW stuff on the same PC if I don't work on *ix systems
>
> Think ecological, it makes no sense to have 10 PCs running if you have
> one that is reliable and has all developement stuff on it that you
> need for work and free time.
>
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Aug 13, 2001, 5:13am

Uh...so use a REAL OS designed for 3D gaming (of which AW is SO hard to try to become). <shrug>

[View Quote] > While I work I am not a corporation, I'm still me. I am
> just one of the people who sometimes can do some of his
> work from home.
>
> And what do you thing that I am after I finished work?
> Or before work starts (like now, monday 5:30am) ?
> I now sit at my work PC at home that has all developement
> stuff on it and is quite reliable for a M$ system before
> I will go to my customer and work on NT4 (again), AIX and
> Linux, sit behind a firewall and have no web access at all.
>
> So noooo playing at work, but combining hobby and work.
> Hard to understand if your hobby is called "rant"?
>
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Aug 1, 2001, 1:20pm

Er, you posted AWC's response to your letter here? I never saw it...

[View Quote] > I posted the response from AWC here in these newsgroups last Friday, expecting that I
> would at least get some people either agreeing or disagreeing with the response.

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