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:-(.. I'm in Berlin and it is 1989... // Communityjude hazardNov 19, 1999, 7:23am
I think we need to consider starting an organized group of people who
intelligently address the problems the awcommunity is facing. With people like jetta interested, and if we could get the support of others, we could start a respectful group that tried to get changes made. This would NOT involve bashing PKs for no reason, slandering employees of COF, or the company itself. It would incur taking an active effort via telegrams, e-mails, posts, builds - whatever we can do to bring this community to where it needs to be. Anyone interested, and I hope some of you are, please pass this along to your friends (tourists welcomed to join, all they need is an e-mail address).. Telegram or e-mail me (or reply here if you are interested.) If I get a few people interested (which I hopefully will), we can create a main build in active worlds and a website, and brainstorm some ideas for community reform. I would also like anyone who has a good name for the group to come forward and offer it.. Possibilities I was thinking of are: AWReform AWComRef AWRevival Thanks for listening to me! Regards, Jude Hazard john viperNov 29, 1999, 12:47am
Sounds interesting...
[View Quote] > I think we need to consider starting an organized group of people who > intelligently address the problems the awcommunity is facing. With people > like jetta interested, and if we could get the support of others, we could > start a respectful group that tried to get changes made. This would NOT > involve bashing PKs for no reason, slandering employees of COF, or the > company itself. It would incur taking an active effort via telegrams, > e-mails, posts, builds - whatever we can do to bring this community to where > it needs to be. > > Anyone interested, and I hope some of you are, please pass this along to > your friends (tourists welcomed to join, all they need is an e-mail > address).. Telegram or e-mail me (or reply here if you are interested.) If > I get a few people interested (which I hopefully will), we can create a main > build in active worlds and a website, and brainstorm some ideas for > community reform. I would also like anyone who has a good name for the > group to come forward and offer it.. Possibilities I was thinking of are: > > AWReform > AWComRef > AWRevival > > Thanks for listening to me! > > Regards, > Jude Hazard -- John Viper (A.K.A.: Jeffrey W. Tickle) http://www.crosswinds.net/~ticklejw/ <- Ultra page of stuff (IE4+ req'd) MAKE MONEY JUST FOR BROWSING THE INTERNET!!!!! http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=epy950 terry kafaderNov 29, 1999, 12:27pm
marc micalizziDec 4, 1999, 4:41am
very interesting. i might join.
-- SomeNiceGuy Marc Micalizzi www.marcusa.com marc at marcusa.com ***>>>--- ORIGINAL MESSAGE ---<<<*** [View Quote] johnnyDec 19, 1999, 7:17pm
Jude, sorry for not saying this in my original post. It was basically an
afterthought. It took a little time to organize my thoughts on this. I think this discussion group is a really good idea. However, I also think that, in order to truly effect change, it will need to have the blessing of COF. We could discuss things and put together proposals, but unless COF thinks it's a good idea and is willing to lend an ear and a certain degree of authority, it would be tough to truly get things done. Now, please don't interpret that as shooting the idea down. That's not what I'm saying at all. I think that this is a really good idea. We just need to get COF involved at the very beginning in order to make this an effective group. What strikes me is that the AW community is very much like a real community - especially given the fact that unlike most 'chat' programs, AW has a real 'environment', with people, property, zoning etc. Given that, it seems to me that what is in order is a form of 'government' - like a mayor's office with an advisory council etc. Those are glorified terms for committees, but you get the idea. Obviously, because AW is owned by COF, they would need to have the final say in anything. However, it seems to me that they may welcome the idea of offloading some of the community management and dispute mediation to members of the community itself. They may also like the idea of intelligently organized and managed discussions that result in real suggestions in a concise form (rather than having to wade through all of the postings on the various boards to come up with ideas.) They could also bounce some of their ideas off of the group to get a prelimary idea for how they will be received by the community at large. If you view this as a kind of goverment, then the creation of some by-laws would be a good idea. COF could review them for approval and be able to request changes to them at any time. I know that I've thrown out a bunch of ideas here, but let me see if I can organize them a little more concisely: What I'm envisioning is a form of governing committee with an elected chairperson. The idea is that the committee could discuss changes, suggestions etc. for the ActiveWorlds community (or perhaps just a single 'public' world). It could also discuss and make decisions/recommendations about disputes. Those decisions/recommendations could be put in a concise form and reviewed with someone from COF (preferably someone that COF would make available - as a liason - so that there is basically one point of contact.) Of course, it would be just as nice to have someone from COF on the committee itself, but that is a matter of whether or not COF wants to do that. I would also suggest involving the current Peace Keepers - making them an extension of the committee, specializing in gathering information and investigating disputes and then bringing their findings before the committee for review/discussion. Of course, we could also find a plot of land (probably in AW), build a meeting hall and meet there for regular meetings. (After all, why not have your discussions right in AW as a group.) Although, a separate discussion board would probably be a good idea too. My wish list would include 1) having COF review their ideas for changes to AW, the browser, new features etc. with the group and getting feedback before making decisions 2) perhaps giving the Peace Keepers some enforcement authority (according to mutually agreed-upon rules) in order to delete abandoned property etc. 3) (this one is really just a personal one for me, but I'd love to meet some of people who have made this really cool Cyberverse. I would love to take a tour of the studios and see what they do and how they come up with some of this stuff.) Let me know your thoughts on this. I invite your comments. Please feel free to shoot holes in this or make suggestions/recommendations. (Be kind though - I do have feelings.) I'd also love to hear what COF may have to say about this idea. Thanks, John [View Quote] johnnyDec 19, 1999, 7:17pm
Jude, sorry for not saying this in my original post. It was basically an
afterthought. It took a little time to organize my thoughts on this. I think this discussion group is a really good idea. However, I also think that, in order to truly effect change, it will need to have the blessing of COF. We could discuss things and put together proposals, but unless COF thinks it's a good idea and is willing to lend an ear and a certain degree of authority, it would be tough to truly get things done. Now, please don't interpret that as shooting the idea down. That's not what I'm saying at all. I think that this is a really good idea. We just need to get COF involved at the very beginning in order to make this an effective group. What strikes me is that the AW community is very much like a real community - especially given the fact that unlike most 'chat' programs, AW has a real 'environment', with people, property, zoning etc. Given that, it seems to me that what is in order is a form of 'government' - like a mayor's office with an advisory council etc. Those are glorified terms for committees, but you get the idea. Obviously, because AW is owned by COF, they would need to have the final say in anything. However, it seems to me that they may welcome the idea of offloading some of the community management and dispute mediation to members of the community itself. They may also like the idea of intelligently organized and managed discussions that result in real suggestions in a concise form (rather than having to wade through all of the postings on the various boards to come up with ideas.) They could also bounce some of their ideas off of the group to get a prelimary idea for how they will be received by the community at large. If you view this as a kind of goverment, then the creation of some by-laws would be a good idea. COF could review them for approval and be able to request changes to them at any time. I know that I've thrown out a bunch of ideas here, but let me see if I can organize them a little more concisely: What I'm envisioning is a form of governing committee with an elected chairperson. The idea is that the committee could discuss changes, suggestions etc. for the ActiveWorlds community (or perhaps just a single 'public' world). It could also discuss and make decisions/recommendations about disputes. Those decisions/recommendations could be put in a concise form and reviewed with someone from COF (preferably someone that COF would make available - as a liason - so that there is basically one point of contact.) Of course, it would be just as nice to have someone from COF on the committee itself, but that is a matter of whether or not COF wants to do that. I would also suggest involving the current Peace Keepers - making them an extension of the committee, specializing in gathering information and investigating disputes and then bringing their findings before the committee for review/discussion. Of course, we could also find a plot of land (probably in AW), build a meeting hall and meet there for regular meetings. (After all, why not have your discussions right in AW as a group.) Although, a separate discussion board would probably be a good idea too. My wish list would include 1) having COF review their ideas for changes to AW, the browser, new features etc. with the group and getting feedback before making decisions 2) perhaps giving the Peace Keepers some enforcement authority (according to mutually agreed-upon rules) in order to delete abandoned property etc. 3) (this one is really just a personal one for me, but I'd love to meet some of people who have made this really cool Cyberverse. I would love to take a tour of the studios and see what they do and how they come up with some of this stuff.) Let me know your thoughts on this. I invite your comments. Please feel free to shoot holes in this or make suggestions/recommendations. (Be kind though - I do have feelings.) I'd also love to hear what COF may have to say about this idea. Thanks, John [View Quote] tamealyJan 20, 2000, 1:27pm
That's actually a good idea. I'm in- even though I think it's still a good
idea to accuse Rick and JP of being gay and then putting pictures up all over AW- but I didn't do thgat, so it's no matter to me. ;-) -TAM [View Quote] tamealyJan 20, 2000, 1:27pm
That's actually a good idea. I'm in- even though I think it's still a good
idea to accuse Rick and JP of being gay and then putting pictures up all over AW- but I didn't do thgat, so it's no matter to me. ;-) -TAM [View Quote] goober kingJan 21, 2000, 3:57pm
Let's face facts, things have changed in AW. It would seem that Worlds,
Inc. and COF are on two opposite sides of the management spectrum when it comes to Public Relations. Whereas Worlds, Inc. had a "hands-off" policy towards chatting (they even put up a sign in GZ stating they didn't monitor for content and it was a "chat-at-your-own-risk" place), COF insists on "protecting" us from the all the naughty people out there. Whereas Protagonist and Co. would make regular visits to AWGZ to chat and hang with the commoners, COF is aloof and at most times unreachable (unless it involves money). Now, the point of this rant isn't to bash COF, (well, not the main point anyway *smirk*) it's to say that I've been considering an idea such as Johnny's for a while, altho not in the same format. Instead of a committee tho, we have Public Relations people who take surveys of people and/or go around the AW Universe and listen to people's ideas/problems/complaints. Then the PR guys would relay their findings and COF would (hopefully) take the necessary steps to correct/implement/help out with whatever the PR guys found. As Johnny stated, this would obviously need the backing of COF, cause if they're not interested, then there's really no point. Much like Protag, Dataman, and the others, if the average citizen (and tourist) of AW knew that they had a voice, and that that voice was being heard, then I definitely think COF would have a better chance of not only garnering new citizens, but also keeping a hold on the citizens that are already here. Then perhaps their mantra of "AWcom loves you! :)" would actually be true for a change! -- Goober King Could go on forever, but manages to stop somehow... odd. http://lavender.fortunecity.com/heat/318/index.html anthony bathgate (wing cmdr)Feb 2, 2000, 10:32pm
Community? You mean this slobbering mess with several groups attempting in vain
to clean it up? the only way I can see to restore the community is wait for the next generation to take over. Anyway, thats my eep-like statement of the day. thank you all for putting up with it. Cheers, Wingie er... Wing Cmdr [View Quote] > I think we need to consider starting an organized group of people who > intelligently address the problems the awcommunity is facing. With people > like jetta interested, and if we could get the support of others, we could > start a respectful group that tried to get changes made. This would NOT > involve bashing PKs for no reason, slandering employees of COF, or the > company itself. It would incur taking an active effort via telegrams, > e-mails, posts, builds - whatever we can do to bring this community to where > it needs to be. > > Anyone interested, and I hope some of you are, please pass this along to > your friends (tourists welcomed to join, all they need is an e-mail > address).. Telegram or e-mail me (or reply here if you are interested.) If > I get a few people interested (which I hopefully will), we can create a main > build in active worlds and a website, and brainstorm some ideas for > community reform. I would also like anyone who has a good name for the > group to come forward and offer it.. Possibilities I was thinking of are: > > AWReform > AWComRef > AWRevival > > Thanks for listening to me! > > Regards, > Jude Hazard |